Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 10, 2011, 10:07:23 PM
found this on youtube
Post by: Ranger91298 on December 10, 2011, 10:36:57 PM
Post by: firefighter4607 on December 10, 2011, 10:37:27 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on December 10, 2011, 10:43:48 PM
Post by: jager on December 10, 2011, 10:50:53 PM
One more video for the peta people to use agaisnt us.. Great.. Did they really have to potray it that way? I could think of a couple different ways to talk about that instance.:bash: :bdid:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 10, 2011, 11:16:45 PM
Post by: tbuck6568 on December 11, 2011, 11:17:02 AM
But I agree with Ross, Jager, and DeerHunter. The music and some of the commentary put it over the top. And the hippies will use it for thier cause.
Ranger, I agree with your statement about the ignorance factor. I don't agree with your analogy with elk hunt vs. 9-11. The video was an awesome hunting opportunity that is portrayed with the potential for skewed perception. 9-11 was a frickin tradjedy that this video doesn't hold a candle to.
Post by: seth30 on December 11, 2011, 11:19:29 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 11, 2011, 11:19:44 AM
Post by: Huntbear on December 11, 2011, 11:22:59 AM
Wow, wish I could just smack that hunter along side the head with a 2x4. Knock some damn sense into their thick skull. That *censored* just pisses me off. We have enough problems with the way we are perceived as hunters by the rest of the population. We do not need this crap floating around on Youtube and other places.
Poor ethics is just the start.
Post by: deerslyr on December 11, 2011, 11:27:56 AM
Post by: furbearer365 on December 11, 2011, 11:28:05 AM
Post by: deerslyr on December 11, 2011, 11:34:36 AM
Post by: runamuk on December 11, 2011, 11:51:37 AM
One more video for the peta people to use agaisnt us.. Great.. Did they really have to potray it that way? I could think of a couple different ways to talk about that instance.:bash: :bdid:
I am not sure I would of taken the shot...feels kinda wrong well plus I dont think I want to gutshoot an elk and that was the only shot I could see :dunno:
anti's will enjoy it I am sure it reinforces their view of the evil cruel unethical hunter
Post by: furbearer365 on December 11, 2011, 11:55:19 AM
Post by: dscubame on December 11, 2011, 12:02:26 PM
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on December 11, 2011, 12:05:26 PM
:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Wow, wish I could just smack that hunter along side the head with a 2x4. Knock some damn sense into their thick skull. That *censored* just pisses me off. We have enough problems with the way we are perceived as hunters by the rest of the population. We do not need this crap floating around on Youtube and other places.
Poor ethics is just the start.
But tell me do you really want to smack him up side the head with a 2x4, just one time?? Or do you want to have him standing by a cliff and giving him the option to jump or get another one?? That is my thought.
I just can't figure out how someone so stupid was actually able to work the camera though. They are making them things way to easy to operate.
Joe
Post by: Swannytheswan on December 11, 2011, 12:21:33 PM
Post by: the1rod on December 11, 2011, 01:03:37 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 11, 2011, 03:32:40 PM
Post by: gonehuntin68 on December 11, 2011, 04:07:13 PM
Post by: 400out on December 11, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
Post by: doyourtime89 on December 11, 2011, 04:38:30 PM
Post by: furbearer365 on December 11, 2011, 07:48:26 PM
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on December 11, 2011, 07:55:16 PM
This isn't any different as far as i can tell... Is it just that we have been conditioned to the other so much that something new pops up and we are "shocked"?
You can find any hunting video of criters dying and people celebrating that the anti-hunters can pick and choose from... they are gonna do it no matter what.
That was def a different kill scene and i'm sure the hunter didn't expect it to go that way.
:twocents:
Post by: passing-thru on December 11, 2011, 08:10:40 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on December 11, 2011, 08:14:41 PM
Post by: rasbo on December 11, 2011, 08:31:54 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 11, 2011, 08:40:38 PM
Post by: Arteman on December 11, 2011, 08:42:44 PM
Even though this video sickens me I keep coming back to read replies. I post a thread about respect of animals and photos and was called "yuppy" and that we worry to much about what the antis think. This was exactly what I was talking about. He shot elk. Elk goes out to edge. Either becomes weak and falls, or choices to jump. Not sure which. Not the important part. That where it should have ended. But NO some *censored* films it and puts on internet. Now everyone is up in arms. :dunno: What the difference in this and the kinda pictures I spoke of?I remember your post, I believe we was called, tree huggers, or bunny huggers, also yuppies, and photo police it was. ;)
Post by: passing-thru on December 11, 2011, 08:46:17 PM
Even though this video sickens me I keep coming back to read replies. I post a thread about respect of animals and photos and was called "yuppy" and that we worry to much about what the antis think. This was exactly what I was talking about. He shot elk. Elk goes out to edge. Either becomes weak and falls, or choices to jump. Not sure which. Not the important part. That where it should have ended. But NO some *censored* films it and puts on internet. Now everyone is up in arms. :dunno: What the difference in this and the kinda pictures I spoke of?I remember your post, I believe we was called, tree huggers, or bunny huggers, also yuppies, and photo police it was. ;)
Yes we were. :chuckle:
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on December 11, 2011, 08:48:25 PM
Not the most respectful video on the web, but if we pull that one, we are gonna spend a lot of time pulling youtube videos and not purchasing 99% of the hunting video's out there....
I think the guy was taking a shot at anti's in the youtube clip based on his notes about being tender.
As far as the hunt he showed, there is nothing unethical about the way he did it... dead elk is a dead elk... at least he didn't shoot it from 900 yards and hit it in the gut....
Could ask the guy to do his video a little more tastefuly I guess... but if you're gonna be consistent, you're gonna be busy with most hunting videos.
:twocents:
Post by: Arteman on December 11, 2011, 08:53:28 PM
the reason everyone is upset is theres no reason to post an elk jumping to his death...i know you cant see it all but the way it was portrayed in the video wasnt good on "our" image...the anti's look for any reason possible to throw it back at us....yeah all of the hunting shows have deer/elk/ bear being killed but there clean shots...they dont show animals being cornered on a cliff and them jumping off...like i said in a earlier post the hunter should have backed off and hoped the elk would have felt safe enough to back track from the edge to make another shot and put the elk down...im sure it happens more than we all think..but you dont see everyone posting it on youtube for the world to see....the hunter should have more respect for the animal than that...i know i would....ive been archery hunting elk for 6 years and have yet to harvest one...ive had plenty of opportunity for shots..they would have been very risky shots and i chose not to take them for fear of loosing the animal and having more respect for the elk:yeah: to all of that, I wouldn't have shot at that bull for the fact that if I dumped it where it stood I wouldn't want to be field dressing a bull that close to a cliff. Clearly it had nowhere to go and only in time it would have came out for a better shot, or pushed out.
Post by: ICEMAN on December 11, 2011, 08:58:52 PM
I have shot game that fell a long ways down. Hated to see it, would surely not have shared it with others.
Post by: elksnout on December 11, 2011, 08:59:29 PM
Post by: rasbo on December 11, 2011, 09:09:23 PM
Post by: wsucowboy on December 11, 2011, 09:30:54 PM
Post by: runamuk on December 11, 2011, 09:51:34 PM
and its just an opinion so iy is worthless ...
Post by: amazing122009 on December 11, 2011, 10:06:22 PM
the infatuation with having to see these things on tv and the net,do bother me..But to glorify it in a way that is tasteless,really irks me...if that makes sense to anyone:yeah:
Post by: JLS on December 11, 2011, 10:52:25 PM
If it wasn't for the comments that the person put on the video about the elk only having two options and the elk landing closer to road I would have no problem with it. The comments were class less and puts hunters in a bad light.
I couldn't agree more. I make no apologies or bones about the fact that I kill what I eat, and I'm not ashamed to make that know to non-hunters. However, I could never put something like this up and feel like it was the right thing to do.
I could care less about anti-hunters. However, I do care about people like my brother and sister-in-law, and the remaining majority of the VOTING PUBLIC, who don't hunt but can easily accept the fact that I do because of how I go about it.
Post by: huntnnw on December 12, 2011, 06:22:33 AM
I really dont see anything unethical about this. They shot an elk standing on a cliff. It fell off the cliff. Just like 90% of goat hunts and no one seems to care about that. The way the video was presented was terrible and I would never put something like that up on the interne though.
:yeah: or sheep...people on here cease to amaze me.... shooting animals that have feelings and shouldnt cause they have a fawn or a calf hell maybe they didnt shoot said bull cause the hunter knew its dad and done enough damge to its family so he passed..waiting for that on here
Post by: rtspring on December 12, 2011, 06:27:37 AM
I find no harm in how an animal is killed, as long as it is a shot that is the best choice to to put the animal down with little or no suffering.
If you can do this at 30 yds or a 1000 who really cares......
RTSPRING
Post by: huntnnw on December 12, 2011, 06:33:58 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 12, 2011, 08:33:54 AM
Post by: mtncook on December 12, 2011, 08:52:38 AM
mtncook
Post by: Colville on December 12, 2011, 11:01:39 AM
When it comes down to it, average joe citizen get's asked from time to time to vote for or against our privileges. They can be massaged to believe that we have no honorable tradition in hunting if we can be painted as enjoying animal suffering or taking glee in an elk going off a cliff. Antis will hate no matter what. But for a group of people who rely on john q public, who doesn't hunt, to continue our pastime, some policing of our image is a really good idea.
Post by: Bonedar208 on December 13, 2011, 01:15:49 AM