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Title: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 15, 2008, 10:38:22 AM
Anybody else on here draw this tag?
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Slider on July 15, 2008, 01:01:29 PM
No we are all just a bunch of Looser's!!!.................lol :chuckle:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: HuntingFanatic on July 15, 2008, 01:33:25 PM
No we are all just a bunch of Looser's!!!.................lol :chuckle:
Losers is such a strong word......I like to call myself a lesser winner!
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Machias on July 15, 2008, 02:18:28 PM
I take it you did?  Congrats, nope loser here as well!  Check out Gletty Creek, just north of the Flowery Trail Road.  Lousy with moose and some huge bulls in there.  Good luck and take some photos and make sure we get a good detail report of your big bull kill.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: DeKuma on July 15, 2008, 03:05:34 PM
Seen lots of moose up Flowery Creek and all the up the top of Sand Canyon
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 15, 2008, 03:12:08 PM
Thanks for the tips guys. I really dont want to end up with tag soup, its not like I will get another shot at it.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Gutpile on July 15, 2008, 03:23:37 PM
Tag soup!! Not possible in 49 or Huckleberry. I envy you BIG TIME
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Machias on July 15, 2008, 03:40:56 PM
He's right, don't shoot the first ones you see, lots of BIG bulls in that area, you can afford to be a little picky, it is a once in a lifetime hunt!!
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Gutpile on July 15, 2008, 03:56:00 PM
Question, When you hunt deer, elk, turkey, pheasant, or whtever you anticipate whether you'll get one.

How does it feel to know you are going to get one, the only thing you'll be wondering is whether it's the "right" one?
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 15, 2008, 03:58:32 PM
Okay guys here is a question for you. My tag is for either sex, any weapon. Is it legal to carry 2 weapons at the same time. Can I carry my bow intending to harvest with archery gear, but find a 70" bull that I just cant get close enough too but dont want to walk all the way back to the truck and take a chance of loosing it, so use the rifle? I cant find anything in the regs regarding this.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 15, 2008, 04:05:20 PM
In Idaho you can.  (even wierder, you don't need a bowhunting education certificate when you hunt in an any weapon season, only in bow only seasons...that didn't make sense to me)  I carried my bow while my dad carried the rifle for me.  Over there it was ok because it was an any weapon tag, just like it is in Washington.  There were no restrictions on carrying two weapons, regardless of type.  For instance, if you carried two guns and could shoot the moose with either, it would not be illegal.  I can't find anything to say that it wouldn't be the same with a bow and gun.  Someone tell me if I'm missing something regarding this in Washington?  Before I had clarification on that, I figured my hunting partner would be with me and would have a gun and be "coyote" hunting and we would exchange weapons if needed...
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Gutpile on July 15, 2008, 04:05:28 PM
I wouldn't hesitate but I'd just make a call 1st to be safe. IMO if you arent buying a weapon specific tag it doesn't matter just so the weapons you do have meet the criteria. I would absolutey bring a rifle for a one in a life time. I've occasionally stalked them just to see how close I can get and they typically just look at you like your a moron and either ignore you or just mosey away. I try not to get too close I wouldn't want to have to shoot in self defense. 49 can be thick so encounters may be close anyways.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: WDFW-SUX on July 15, 2008, 04:10:22 PM
Moose aren't the most elusive creatures I had to throw rocks at one so it would stop licking the tires of my truck last year......after I hit him and he gave me the look I was wishing I had a rifle insted of my bow
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 15, 2008, 04:11:10 PM
How does it feel to know you are going to get one, the only thing you'll be wondering is whether it's the "right" one?

I checked the harvest report for 07 it says 100% success. I have been given some great info so far from several guys on here, some of which have had this tag. A couple of them have told me what their goals were going in and have told me to make mine even bigger, I guess they saw bigger ones in there at some point. One of my concerns is I have no idea how to field judge a moose, other than being able to tell the difference between a cow and bull. I told Bone I need a crash course in Moose 101. I suppose I shouldnt start worrying until I hve been there for a few days and havnt seen a thing.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: WDFW-SUX on July 15, 2008, 04:13:40 PM
http://forums.bowsite.com/tf/bgforums/thread.cfm?forum=15&threadid=351665&MESSAGES=39&FF=15

this should help
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 15, 2008, 04:15:45 PM
I think I will have WF70 carry my .338, he has a bear tag anyway, and I will take Popes advice and pick up some 200gr. Noslers just in case but I really am going to do my best to take one with archery gear.

Thanks Passion, those are perfect. I just wish it showed arrows pointing at labeled explanations.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Gutpile on July 15, 2008, 04:21:20 PM
I don't know how to judge them either but every time I see one I cannot believe how big they are. Find the pic of the guy on one of these moose threads and go a little bigger than that one. I'm not knocking the animal but there's sp many moose in the two units we've talked about it's just silly. If you didn't see at least 2-3 bulls a day I'd be surprised.

You'll know he's mature, great big fat belly, sway back, long bell, huge hams. You're just gonna know if he's the boss.

I don't want to give the impression that I fancy myself a moose pro but I've hunted there since I was pre-pubescent and I'm 40 now. For the last ten years lets say 100-200 trips for bear, grouse, atv ing, elk, deer whatever  I've seen at least one a day 90% of the time.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: WDFW-SUX on July 15, 2008, 04:22:29 PM
More basics

http://www.wc.adfg.state.ak.us/index.cfm?adfg=huntalaska.moose
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: boneaddict on July 15, 2008, 05:02:33 PM
Sounds like my other moose contact didn't draw49 Rob...know what that means?
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 15, 2008, 05:08:51 PM
Sounds like my other moose contact didn't draw49 Rob...know what that means?

ya, I better plan on making more pack trips in and out of there :chuckle:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 15, 2008, 05:10:28 PM
About field judging...  First and foremost look for at least split brow tines and if they have 3 or 4 per side, that's a big one.  Small ones will have a big point for their brow tine.  Without split brow tines, it's really hard to make any book.  The reason is they measure the length of the palm from the back of the palm all they way to the front.  If the front brow palm is split then you get to measure it all the way up to the split in the brow.  It bought me an extra 6 or 7 inches per side on my moose.  Next look a the palms and points.  If the points are big and long, they generally have smaller palms.  Mine just happened to have huge points and decent sized palms, so don't use the long points as a rule that they must have small palms.  You want long and wide palms.  No matter how long the points are, you only get 1" for each one.  So don't pick them based on long points.  You generally want 6 points on each side minimum, not counting the brow palms.  When I look at a moose I see two things, the brows and the palm size.  Width is all that is ever reported, but it's not that important.  Many narrow moose score big.  My moose was a narrow moose and was only 45.5" wide, but the split brows and long palms put him at 149" gross, over the B&C minimum of 140".  

Now we can get into the theory of the scoring system and that is where I have a problem.  I don't think the scoring system gives the moose enough credit for the bone it grows.  Take mine for example...it had huge sword points almost 20" long, yet the moose only gets 1" for that?  It makes no sense.  Also, the split brow thing is kind of ridiculous.  I've seen some huge 50" moose with a single brow that won't make B&C because they don't have split brow palms.  I can go on and on, but this is one reason I'll never enter my moose into a book, I just don't agree with their scoring system.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Gutpile on July 15, 2008, 05:13:34 PM
pics!!!!!
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 15, 2008, 05:18:29 PM
Bone has some good ones as well for Shiras.  It's good to start looking at pictures of moose and their scores, so you get an idea.  The most important thing to look at is the split brows...

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/moose_email_1.jpg)
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 15, 2008, 05:22:21 PM
Very Interesting Pope, great info, thanks. That second link Passion sent has a drawing of a rack that points out all those things you mentioned, now I can tell where I should be looking. It shows the brow tines and how they come off the palms. I wasn't sure what you were talking about when you told me to hold out for double brows, now I know.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 15, 2008, 05:24:45 PM
Awsome pic, I was hoping you were going to post one. Those brows look like what I had imagined, the drawing is more palmated with little nubs coming off.


The pic brings up another question. How do you cool down the meat that time of year. Its going to take me hours to get it out, is there cold storage anywhere close that you know of?
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 15, 2008, 06:44:05 PM
So this one wouldn't score that well since his brows are not split? This is going to be increadable.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: boneaddict on July 15, 2008, 06:53:45 PM
YOU have NO IDEA!
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 15, 2008, 07:01:01 PM
He would score well because he has palms of about 20" long and about 12" wide.  He also makes up for it in width.  He loses a lot with no double brows though...

You bring up a very valid issue with cooling off the meat.  In my hunting area I had snow a few days before in Sept...and some was still left so I put my quarters in the snow despite the fact it was hot during the day, the snow stuck around.  In your instance you will have to do what I do for elk hunting...

Bring lots of tubs and huge coolers.  The moment you get one down, have one of your hunting buddies go down and buy 40 bags of ice.  You are going to have to put the quarters in the coolers if the cooler is large enough, or put them in huge cheap wal-mart rubbermaid type tubs.  The fact is it's going to be difficult to get it all out quick and down to cold storage.  I guess if you got enough guys and it drops near the road.  What if you are 1.5 hours from cold storage and it drops 4 miles from the road and it's 80 degrees...  You will need to keep them in tubs until you get them all out and to cold storage.  Then, you have the problem I had...how do you get them home?  It's 85 degrees in eastern washington...  I loaded my meat in ice and drove them to my taxidermist and cold storage here on the westside.  I bought tons of ice bags and just stacked the quarters in our jeep.  I took out the back seat and it filled the whole interior of the jeep.  By the time I got to cold storage the ice was gone and the quarters were getting warm.  I needed more tubs to keep them cold.  If I had to do it again I would have 5 huge tubs and be ready to buy tons of ice...
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Wea300mag on July 15, 2008, 08:23:43 PM
This thread is awesome, I'm learning a lot about scoring moose.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: DeKuma on July 15, 2008, 08:32:59 PM
Maybe we should set up a contact list for all the succesful Moose hunters to call when they need help!  I know that it could be pretty hot over there at that time and you will need to cool it quickly.  Chewelah has cold storage available, and Colville/Kettle Falls is not far and may have some as well.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 15, 2008, 08:47:57 PM
Maybe we should set up a contact list for all the succesful Moose hunters to call when they need help!  I know that it could be pretty hot over there at that time and you will need to cool it quickly.  Chewelah has cold storage available, and Colville/Kettle Falls is not far and may have some as well.

I'm all for it and have no problem helping someone else get their animal out, just dont want to spend day after helping others get theirs and never get a chance to tag one myself, that would suck. As long as I'm over there though I will help. We would have to sensable about it though, no need to have people drive for an hour for a moose a few hundred yards off the side of a service road, unless they are physically challenged. I would love to get pics of the successful hunters as well, field shots of a tag like this will bring back memories for ever.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Slider on July 16, 2008, 07:44:43 AM
I would look at putting a freezer in the truck or on a trailer with a small generator. If Pope volunteer's to help ya pack one I might volunteer Video and Pics!!!.............lol
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Gutpile on July 16, 2008, 08:29:49 AM
Do you know when you'll be out here. Oct 1st? November? Whats your plan?
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: boneaddict on July 16, 2008, 09:23:14 AM
Getting them out is no prob.  Its freezing at night very well by then and even though in the sun temps hit 80, if you have it in the shade the frost often never leaves.  This is different stuff than most of you are used too. 
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: ICEMAN on July 16, 2008, 09:39:51 AM
This is different stuff than most of you are used too. 

 :ass:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: jackelope on July 17, 2008, 05:36:57 PM
look at the setup they used to cool the meat at the end of the 2 weeks in purgatory video...thats the stuff right there.
they had a freezer and a generator in the back of the truck.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: PA BEN on July 21, 2008, 05:25:34 AM
Okay guys here is a question for you. My tag is for either sex, any weapon. Is it legal to carry 2 weapons at the same time. Can I carry my bow intending to harvest with archery gear, but find a 70" bull that I just cant get close enough too but don't want to walk all the way back to the truck and take a chance of loosing it, so use the rifle? I cant find anything in the regs regarding this.
You won't find a 70" bull in this State. The average bull taken is 38" and a bull in the 40's is a trophy. If it says any weapon I don't see why you can't. But, I'd ask the game Dept. first. BTW I drew 49 also, been putting in for 9 years. huntnphool I'll shoot you an e-mail.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: ICEMAN on July 21, 2008, 08:37:39 AM
The concern may be the hunter orange requirement.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 21, 2008, 10:00:51 AM
Phool, have you set a goal yet? 

I have not hunted the area extensively and don't know what's in there, but Outfitter informed me there are a few 50" bulls running around that unit.  I don't think you can honestly expect to find a 60"+ shiras there or anywhere.  (unless you have the kid that finds the 200" moose sheds guiding you)  I chased a well known 60" bull in my unit last year but that was the biggest anyone had ever seen.  A 50" bull is huge and if it has double eye guards it will undoubtedly make B&C.  I told you mine was 45" and double eye guards, but I wasn't hunting in an area with as many moose as you are hunting in.  7+ palm points per side, decent palms at least 9" wide, double brows, and you are probably good to go regardless of spread. 

What's your goal? 
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Ridgerunner on July 21, 2008, 10:34:51 AM
http://www.pendoreilleadventures.com/

There's the goal for Rob.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: WDFW-SUX on July 21, 2008, 01:36:48 PM
Passing on any bull over 45in would be a mistake in my mind.  But if you have several located in that size and one is better than the others I might :twocents:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 21, 2008, 05:31:04 PM
ON the site listed 2 posts above it says the largest recorded in WA was a 58" moose...  I've seen quite a few in the low 50's.  Also, on that site in the logo area is a picture of some guys with a big one.  Unfortunately, the way the scoring goes with the single brow or two it wouldn't score as well as you would guess.  However, it just looks big and has a wide spread and that's more important than any score in my book.  To each his own.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 21, 2008, 06:18:22 PM
Thanks for the posts guys, I have been out of town and without internet access.

Pope, I have yet to set a goal I'm still trying to cram for the final exam. I will tell you this though, high score or not I don't think I could pass on that bull in that website. This one would be tough to pass on too if it were in archery range, I found it in the gallery pics, the caption says it was last year in the same area. :dunno: The bull in the video may not score well because of the brows but so far it looks large to me.

I am going to target the first week to start with and see what I can find. With two months its going to have to be a no-brainer to drop it the first couple days.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 21, 2008, 06:40:42 PM
I think that bull looks larger than it really is because the hunting is way behind it.  That said, it's still big.  That's a shooter for sure.  It's at least 45" and double brows.  Can't pass that...

Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: TeacherMan on July 21, 2008, 06:58:24 PM
Check out Winchester Creek, there is a great little sadle at the top of it, one of my buddies shot a 50" bull number 10 in the state in there 2 years ago and said he saw bigger.

Hunt High...
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Rocky Mtn Fever on July 21, 2008, 07:12:52 PM
how many years to draw a Washington moose tag on average. i've put in for 10 and nothing i think im better off paying more money to hunt Idaho or Wyoming at least i may get drawn while i can still hunt.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: bobcat on July 21, 2008, 07:35:49 PM
how many years to draw a Washington moose tag on average. i've put in for 10 and nothing i think im better off paying more money to hunt Idaho or Wyoming at least i may get drawn while i can still hunt.

I don't think there is an average. I dont believe the points help a whole lot since the majority of the applicants are going to have the maximum number of possible points, or at least close to it. If you look at the total number of moose permits available and the total number of applicants, it comes out to about 1 in 162 odds. That means as an overall average you would/should draw a moose permit once every 162 years! So really there is no way to answer your question. It's like asking how many years does it take to win the Lotto.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: PA BEN on July 21, 2008, 08:46:55 PM
10 years for me :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 21, 2008, 08:51:28 PM
10 years for me :IBCOOL:

Congrats on that too.

If you read my post a few months ago about drawing a moose tag it was obvious I was worried about drawing before I passed on. I figured it would take 20 years at the rate it was going but was willing to keep paying the money and sticking with it in the mean time. Of course I only put in for one area so I believe my odds were even worse. I figured that if I ever did luck out and draw a one time shot, it was going to be the one unit I really wanted and for a bull.

PB, are you going opening day?
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: PA BEN on July 22, 2008, 04:52:41 AM
Before I moved from my home town (Chewelah) 3 1/2 yr's ago, there was a guy who drew his first year and his wife drew the next year. That's just not right. >:(
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: boneaddict on July 22, 2008, 05:53:11 AM
I drew in 2 years, took 12 for a deer tag though.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: jackelope on July 22, 2008, 08:15:21 PM
if i remember correctly the bull phool posted a pic of is 50 wide...he was in wa fishing/hunting news.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 22, 2008, 09:23:23 PM
So why is it that all these moose pics are starting to show up, I find it hard to believe that I missed all these until now. Here is another I just saw in the "Random Photo" pop-up. What the hail gives, I'm having a difficult time getting sleep as it is. Where was this one taken and how big is it? Would I be okay taking one like this, it looks like a shooter according to the info everyone has been posting.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: jackelope on July 22, 2008, 09:37:16 PM
not a wa bull.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 25, 2008, 10:03:42 AM
Almost a shame I am going to be filling the freezer with one of these :drool:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=yNy9jTeolUk
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: bucklucky on July 25, 2008, 10:12:08 AM
Thats a pretty cool clip. I dont think I could kill one now. I'll just eat my tag when I draw :chuckle:

 O.K. maybee not ;)
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: robodad on July 25, 2008, 10:19:04 AM
Almost a shame I am going to be filling the freezer with one of these :drool:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=yNy9jTeolUk

You big meenie !!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: bucklucky on July 25, 2008, 10:20:54 AM
Or is it weenie :chuckle:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 25, 2008, 10:25:22 AM
Phool, if you pass on that one above, you are crazy.  That's like a record bull.  Problem is, I don't think it's a Shiras I'm sure.  See how long those paddles are?  Crazy.  You need to start looking at Shiras bulls because if you look at too many Alaska bulls you are going to miss a good Shiras.  Kind of like cous deer hunting.  If you are looking at whitetails all day and then go cous hunting even a big cous looks small.  There are great sites in Wyoming of outfitters that shiras hunt and they have tons of kill pictures.

Here is a show called Outdoor World and Bob Foulkrod killed a nice shiras on it from Idaho.  It's on the second half of the show:
http://content.basspro.com/outdoorworldtv/asx/739326broadband300k.asx?cmid=broadband124

Here is the link to a site I would go to every other day to look through their moose kills.  These are all shiras bulls and most are B&C size.  I'd kill about every one on this list of pictures.  
http://www.barlowoutfitting.com/moose.htm

Those are a couple of things I would look at to tide me over on my moose fix.  I'll post some others for you as well.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 25, 2008, 10:34:07 AM
Here is a good one.  Do you shoot this guy?

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ7ebPwbcJI
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: robodad on July 25, 2008, 10:40:15 AM
Here is a good one.  Do you shoot this guy?

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ7ebPwbcJI


Yep, Dead Bull !!

I have heard that there is about 30" from ear tip to ear tip or approx 10" long ears and 10" between them and about 7 1/2 inches between the bosses ?? maybe that will give you a better read on your bull
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: bucklucky on July 25, 2008, 10:40:50 AM
WOW! About half way down the Barlow site, those look like canadians! Thems some pigs!!
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 25, 2008, 10:41:11 AM
Here is one that is 45" wide and big...but one single brow.  Because of this it won't make book.  Do you guys shoot it?  An impressive moose.  (I guess I realized that book is very subjective with moose.  Tons of big moose won't make book but they are great trophies I would be happy with)

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=38LtzIYVmwA
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: boneaddict on July 25, 2008, 10:48:17 AM
people get way to caught up in the score.  I shot a smaller moose once, but am very proud of it and my Dad was at my side.  I even catch myself thinking I could have done better, but you know what, its proudly displayed on my wall, and it was one hell of a hunt.  If you are happy with it SHOOT IT!  I called him from a LONG WAYS away and I killed him at about 15 feet and there was a second bull, and long story short.  one hell of an experience. 
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: robodad on July 25, 2008, 11:41:03 AM
Quote
people get way to caught up in the score.

That is because they are a member of Hunting-Washington.com  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Ridgerunner on July 25, 2008, 01:11:37 PM
I'm really struggling with what my goal should be on the hunt.  I would love to take a record book critter, I never have and this is probably about as good of an opportunity as I have ever had.  That being said the way moose are scored is somewhat odd.  In the end I think I am just going to enjoy the hunt and when I find a bull that looks good I'll take him.  These bulls on this thread are good enough though, even the one with only one browtine.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: bobcat on July 25, 2008, 01:13:27 PM
I'd go for the biggest animal with the most meat. You can't eat the horns!

It's too bad you can't weigh them first before you decide which one to shoot.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: robodad on July 25, 2008, 01:18:48 PM
I'd go for the biggest animal with the most meat. You can't eat the horns!

It's too bad you can't weigh them first before you decide which one to shoot.   :chuckle:

Or taste them before you shoot !!  (https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10689/moose2.gif)
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: bucklucky on July 25, 2008, 02:11:02 PM
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Ridgerunner on July 25, 2008, 02:17:28 PM
nah, horns last forever meat doesn't. ;)
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 25, 2008, 05:13:37 PM
Here is a good one.  Do you shoot this guy?

Well that is a big wide bugger for sure but his brows are not split. Depending on what I have been seeing during the hunt I think I would mark him with my GPS and look a little more. If the brows were split I would have taken the shot if close enough. That guy in the video needs a tripod or mono pod, looks like he has a bad case of bull fever.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 25, 2008, 05:17:01 PM
 :yike: Those bulls in that Barlow site are monsters.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: PA BEN on July 25, 2008, 06:55:18 PM
I've got the whole month of Oct. to hunt. So I'm going to try and be picky. Like I said try to be picky. Also, fall turkey is open also, Sept. 27-Oct. 3.

Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: jackelope on July 25, 2008, 08:08:24 PM
here's a 50" bull with single brows and a 43" bull with double brows...not sure about you but if they were standing broadside to me...the 50" bull would be going for a ride in a silverado truck....
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Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 25, 2008, 10:42:41 PM
Good point Jackelope, I can see your logic. My fear, besides tag soup, is to find a 45" bull with double brows on the first morning :dunno:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: M_ray on July 25, 2008, 11:17:02 PM
Here is a good one.  Do you shoot this guy?

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ7ebPwbcJI


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Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 25, 2008, 11:24:31 PM
Now how am I supposed to concentrate with you behind me
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 25, 2008, 11:29:24 PM
Maybe Outfitter will post some of his big 49 degree moose on here.  I know he has tons of them... 
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 25, 2008, 11:40:54 PM
Just to get you excited, I'll post a picture of another moose.  This one only has single brows though...

Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 26, 2008, 12:14:03 AM
WOW, what a cool pic Pope
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Ridgerunner on July 26, 2008, 07:56:22 AM
A 45" bull with double brows is not a bad bull at all and would probably book I imagine if he is put together in other places.  Are you holding out for a State Record or what?   :chuckle:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: bucklucky on July 26, 2008, 08:00:11 AM
That 50 inch bull Jackalope put up is a no-brainer! What a pig. Single grow or not shoot that sum-beech!
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: PA BEN on July 26, 2008, 10:01:43 AM
Whats the charge for info? Also, could you give some info on field judging trophy moose.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 26, 2008, 10:06:02 AM
Outfitter, you are "The Man" Consider one of the cabins gone. Will send PM about compensation but thank you very much. I am going to try to talk one or two or the guys on here into going the first couple days if they dont have anything else going on so this would be perfect. I dont have a problem sleeping in my tent but it would be cool to have a nice place for them to stay in while they help me out. Thanks again for the generous offer, chat with you later.

How often do you guys see something like this happen, talk about class!!!
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: blessed on July 26, 2008, 09:51:07 PM
Hi, Anyone get something in the mail about how to get that tag in my hand? STB
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 27, 2008, 01:11:12 PM
Not yet.

Before I make the first trip over there, can anyone tell me the ratio of public to private land over there? Am I going to be knocking on doors asking for permision or is there plenty of state or public land? I'm taking Outfitter up on his generous offer and am sure he will be able to point out private ground around his place but other than that.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Outfitter on July 27, 2008, 02:10:30 PM
Heres a couple from my cameras today. Not shooters yet!
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 27, 2008, 02:32:13 PM
Way cool, thanks for the shot of adrenaline :chuckle:

I just saw this one pop up, it has double brows but will it score well, it looks a bit small to me.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Ridgerunner on July 27, 2008, 03:35:17 PM
passing on that little guy. ;)
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: PA BEN on July 27, 2008, 07:06:03 PM
Outfitter, You have a great web site. Looks like a quality outfit.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: robodad on July 27, 2008, 07:28:39 PM
Way cool, thanks for the shot of adrenaline :chuckle:

I just saw this one pop up, it has double brows but will it score well, it looks a bit small to me.

I am going to guess this little guy at about 36"-38". not exactly what I would call a B&C bull !!!
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 27, 2008, 11:13:40 PM
Not only is he narrow, but his palms aren't long.  He does have double brows so he will score some though plus about 6 points on each side.  It's probably about the average bull a guy takes in WA according to the general averages I've seen...
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 29, 2008, 05:45:52 PM
I have been to Sportsmans, Sportco and Cabelas looking for a 49 DN unit map, Sportsmans and Sportco are out and Cabelas doesn't even carry Washington unit maps, can you believe that? There must be a load of guys hunting that unit, it seems its the only one missing off the dispalys. :bash:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: blessed on July 29, 2008, 09:08:05 PM
You might try Clarks All Sports in Colville . They might have one.There's a guy in Vancouver that is going to let me use his maps and notes. STB
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: PA BEN on July 30, 2008, 05:05:58 AM
Here's a link for State land maps. http://www.dnr.wa.gov/BusinessPermits/HowTo/Government/Pages/eng_rms_how_do_i_order_a_pub_lands_quad.aspx
Also the unit maps can by purchased from most any store that sells hunting licences over there. My Mom picked me up one for 117 at the local store that sells licences.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on July 31, 2008, 11:04:03 AM
yes there is lots of land but is rough country. You can get lucky and find good bulls from the roads but if you don't know where to look you wont find many bulls over 40"
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 31, 2008, 11:28:39 AM
yes there is lots of land but is rough country. You can get lucky and find good bulls from the roads but if you don't know where to look you wont find many bulls over 40"

I don't understand this statement.  It's not rocket science.  There are a lot of things I could say but I'll hold off...
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on July 31, 2008, 11:42:02 AM
what is your deal guy have I done something to make you dislike me?
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 31, 2008, 11:47:09 AM
Don't take it personally sometimes he gets cranky when he's over worked!!
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 31, 2008, 12:00:40 PM
I helped a friend years ago hunt that unit for moose.  He shot a 55" moose.  It wasn't rocket science and there were plenty by the roads...  I don't think the way we hunted was luck because we were able to get on plenty of moose over 40".  It's just a difference of opinions. 
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on July 31, 2008, 12:11:42 PM
I have found moose sheds that weighted 17.5 pounds and score 196. that is a monster there are bulls that score in the mid 160's to 170's if you know where to look. I have been watching one bull that should be some were around the 170 range. 55" is a great bull most people don't get bulls that big. I didnt say they can't be found just that it's not a cake walk thats all.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Ridgerunner on July 31, 2008, 12:18:28 PM
Enough of the back and forth, lets see those sheds.  POA, I've seen your website and it looks like you kill some good ones, post up some photos so guys know the potential out there with the tag. 
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: outdoorguy on July 31, 2008, 12:23:57 PM
Give Outfitter a call if you have a 49 or Mt Spokane Tag. He has pleanty of good bulls on his property usually .I have seen them. I talked to him the other day and he said he was full on moose clients for this year but would help other hunters that drew in any way he could at no charge . Even told me if I heard of anyone that drew they could stay in his cabins in either unit at no charge!
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on July 31, 2008, 12:24:36 PM
I will give you a few this is my work computer I will have to get the others from my laptop at home
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on July 31, 2008, 12:37:34 PM
this bull had a 51" spread
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same bull scored 166 5/8
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this bull was the widest one @ 57.5"

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here are some sheds this one weighted 17.5 we have found his shed 3 years in a row. this was when he was at his peak he is going down hill now. I figured that with a 55" spread this bull would have scored 196

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here are some other big sheds.
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and here is a bull elk my friend shot with his bow scored 347 5/8th b&c
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Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Ridgerunner on July 31, 2008, 12:50:07 PM
Those are some stinkin AWESOME bulls. 
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 31, 2008, 02:58:09 PM
Damn, that 196" bull is a huge one.  My mouth was wide open. 

On another note, maybe Shanewa has been finding the other side of that shed...lol.

If those don't get you fired up Ridge and Phool, nothing will. 
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: rackattack on July 31, 2008, 03:04:39 PM
Those are some great bulls. :o
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: boneaddict on July 31, 2008, 03:30:45 PM
those are great bulls and those sheds are world class.   

Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on July 31, 2008, 05:00:32 PM
I better not forget to put the mountain money in my pack :yike:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: PA BEN on July 31, 2008, 05:30:15 PM
What unit did they come from? Also when you say 55" where on the rack do you measure across?
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: MountainWalk on July 31, 2008, 05:38:14 PM
After seeing all this moose action, all I can say is wow. I almost want one more than a sheep. Ive never seen wyoming moose so big in montana. WOW. POA,, thanks for showing those pictures. You do know your moose.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: PA BEN on August 02, 2008, 06:30:05 AM
MAPS
For those of you looking for maps I've got the DNR, Unit 177, Forest Service, topo and Washington Atlas Book. All the maps are the same with the Colville Nat. Forest Service map is the best and the Washington Atlas and Topo's. Don't bother with the Unit and DNR maps. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on August 05, 2008, 09:45:23 AM
MAPS
For those of you looking for maps I've got the DNR, Unit 177, Forest Service, topo and Washington Atlas Book. All the maps are the same with the Colville Nat. Forest Service map is the best and the Washington Atlas and Topo's. Don't bother with the Unit and DNR maps. Just my opinion.

Where did you pick up that forest service map?
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: boneaddict on August 05, 2008, 09:53:05 AM
Do you want to PM me your address Rob?
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on August 05, 2008, 09:58:53 AM
Done Bone. I have a couple other guys working on highlighting a couple places to check out as well but I can never have too much. I will send them back after I'm finished with the hunt.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: boneaddict on August 05, 2008, 10:05:58 AM
I'd rather show you, but just in case I don't get 2.  ;)
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on August 05, 2008, 10:09:11 AM
I'd rather show you, but just in case I don't get 2.  ;)

You know I would prefer that as well but know how many tags you have to fill this year too :yike:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on August 05, 2008, 12:20:22 PM
Thought you guys would be interested...  This is the SCI world record Shiras moose.  If you see one this big I would suggest shooting it.

Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on August 05, 2008, 12:22:24 PM
Hard to see, but here is the pope and young world record.  I guess it's 185".

Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: DeKuma on August 05, 2008, 12:33:21 PM
Thought you guys would be interested...  This is the SCI world record Shiras moose.  If you see one this big I would suggest shooting it.


Think my nerves would be too wasted to nail one this big!  He is a monster!
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: blessed on August 06, 2008, 07:56:39 AM
I Want one of thoese!! :chuckle:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on August 09, 2008, 02:32:54 PM
Just recieved another ace to put up my sleeve from another member :chuckle: Can't wait to go. Looks like I will be busy baiting hooks for people again next year :chuckle:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: PA BEN on August 09, 2008, 03:19:27 PM
Just recieved another ace to put up my sleeve from another member :chuckle: Can't wait to go. Looks like I will be busy baiting hooks for people again next year :chuckle:
What do you mean baiting hooks?
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on August 09, 2008, 03:22:26 PM
What do you mean baiting hooks?

Taking people fishing to help pay back all the help I am getting :chuckle:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: PA BEN on August 09, 2008, 03:37:59 PM
If I remember right you are hunting in November?
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on August 09, 2008, 03:42:08 PM
If I remember right you are hunting in November?

I hope not, I plan to be chasing mulies in Montana at that point :chuckle:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: wf70gonehunting on August 17, 2008, 02:27:01 PM
Yes chasing mule deer in Montana in November. :chuckle:
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: mbutler on August 21, 2008, 02:57:54 PM
I drew this tag as well.  Live in the Snohomish area.  Planning on a scout sometime after Labor Day.  Thinking of making a hunt on the opener but somewhat concerned about warm weather.  Any one else have thoughts on this topic and getting your meat out and home without it spoiling.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: bobcat on August 21, 2008, 03:05:55 PM
I'd go the first week of the season because they're in the rut, and you'll have the woods to yourself the first three days before muzzleloader deer/elk season opens up. Just be careful when and where you shoot one. Stay close to the roads and try to kill your moose first thing in the morning when it's still cool. The way the weather's been lately, heat might not be a factor anyway.

If it was me, I'd take that week off work, and get over there early and have Sept 27-30 for scouting. That gives you four days to find the bull you want, so you can have him on the ground at first light opening morning. Another thing is there may be some archery hunters running around those last few days in September, and they'd be likely to tell you where they've been seeing moose.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: PA BEN on August 21, 2008, 07:07:27 PM
It well cool down at night. If you hang your meat in the timber it should be ok for at least 4 days. Plenty of time to pack it out to a cooler.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Wea300mag on August 21, 2008, 07:27:35 PM
I drew this tag as well.  Live in the Snohomish area.  Planning on a scout sometime after Labor Day.  Thinking of making a hunt on the opener but somewhat concerned about warm weather.  Any one else have thoughts on this topic and getting your meat out and home without it spoiling.

Welcome mbutler, congrats on the best tag WA has to offer. Just incase you don't know the unwritten rules here, you get lots of help here but you have to tell us your hunting story complete with pics after the harvest. It is also highly recommended that you come back often and tell us about your other hunts.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: popeshawnpaul on August 21, 2008, 07:37:49 PM
Welcome Mbutler.  We have discussed this issue at length.  Congradulations on your tag.  Read through this moose post and some of the others and you'll get plenty of tips and advise.  You should get some contact info for me or a few of us that will be over there on the opening in case you get one down.  I'm willing to help any member on here pack or whatever.  I can take a few pictures if needed as well.  Feel free to PM me and get my contact info. 
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: mbutler on August 22, 2008, 11:04:57 AM
I drew this tag as well.  Live in the Snohomish area.  Planning on a scout sometime after Labor Day.  Thinking of making a hunt on the opener but somewhat concerned about warm weather.  Any one else have thoughts on this topic and getting your meat out and home without it spoiling.

Welcome mbutler, congrats on the best tag WA has to offer. Just incase you don't know the unwritten rules here, you get lots of help here but you have to tell us your hunting story complete with pics after the harvest. It is also highly recommended that you come back often and tell us about your other hunts.
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: Outfitter on August 22, 2008, 12:36:22 PM
Heres one from our property that has tripple eyeguards but his paddles aren't big enough yet. Maybe by the time he sheds ??
Title: Re: 49 Degree North Moose
Post by: huntnphool on August 25, 2008, 07:40:43 PM
It well cool down at night. If you hang your meat in the timber it should be ok for at least 4 days. Plenty of time to pack it out to a cooler.

I was over there this past week, it got down to 42 at night and we weren't in the hills. It should be okay by Oct. I am thinking :dunno:
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