Post by: wall of wood camp on December 18, 2011, 08:38:18 PM
Post by: buglebuster on December 18, 2011, 08:41:55 PM
Post by: Huntbear on December 18, 2011, 08:48:20 PM
Post by: adamR on December 18, 2011, 08:49:28 PM
Post by: 400out on December 18, 2011, 08:52:45 PM
Oh this should get good :peep:
Post by: adamR on December 18, 2011, 08:55:37 PM
Post by: wsucowboy on December 18, 2011, 08:57:54 PM
Post by: high country on December 18, 2011, 09:20:21 PM
Post by: benhuntin on December 18, 2011, 09:23:44 PM
Post by: bone head on December 18, 2011, 09:37:00 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on December 18, 2011, 09:44:25 PM
i have friends that are natives and i love seeing their pictures of their hunts just as i do anyones hunts and animals they get, but the natives ansisters didn't invent the centerfire nor the black powder all these late hunts should be traditional bow only i think? thats what their ansisters used and were very capeable of killing what they needed with the stick bows. hell my ansisters didn't have seasons back then either so why cant i hunt with out tags? it rubbs me the wrong way but i'll live with the card i drew i guessPretty sure they never had hounds either but apparently that's a traditional way to hunt.... Sorry to get off topic but I hate the tribes and their privileges
Post by: blacktail luv on December 18, 2011, 10:33:40 PM
I'm sure that will offend some but Im getting tired of hearing about this crap constantly on here.
Post by: danderson on December 18, 2011, 11:57:23 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on December 19, 2011, 04:26:08 AM
I would argue that when you sit down and talk with someone, that relations improve. When more information is shared-improvement. I don't feel it.
I do respect a few of the tribal members who post on this site, but I do not feel as a whole, that any of this is helping the situation....
Post by: wraithen on December 19, 2011, 04:38:02 AM
Post by: ICEMAN on December 19, 2011, 04:40:10 AM
Post by: wraithen on December 19, 2011, 04:50:30 AM
Post by: idahoelkhunter300wby on December 19, 2011, 05:43:02 AM
Post by: longknife on December 19, 2011, 06:04:50 AM
Everybody I talked to thought this was some serious BullSh!t. These natives need to stop rubbing this in our face.
Thats why they are doing it, to make "us "look bad to the comunity. Its like they are setting us up for public eyes. We have technoligy, take pics, and go straight to the press, LE dosent do anything, or allow the comunity see what they do wrong!
It was a "bigger than yours" contest, rite.... its bigger than yours! It still is a legal bull, just their laws.
We needs a change!
Post by: Raul Duke on December 19, 2011, 06:49:55 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 19, 2011, 06:50:11 AM
Anyone feel that relations are getting better?:yeah:
I would argue that when you sit down and talk with someone, that relations improve. When more information is shared-improvement. I don't feel it.
I do respect a few of the tribal members who post on this site, but I do not feel as a whole, that any of this is helping the situation....
Post by: jackmaster on December 19, 2011, 07:08:09 AM
Post by: HairTrigger on December 19, 2011, 07:16:48 AM
Post by: wraithen on December 19, 2011, 07:19:50 AM
You make it seem like WE all bash natives but WE all don't and I don't agree with any bigoted form of bashing.
Post by: jackmaster on December 19, 2011, 07:23:48 AM
Post by: HairTrigger on December 19, 2011, 07:24:09 AM
Post by: HairTrigger on December 19, 2011, 07:27:02 AM
Post by: jackmaster on December 19, 2011, 07:27:10 AM
Post by: 400out on December 19, 2011, 08:02:05 AM
On the wolf issue you guys can't shoot them? I don't know but id be glad to help with this in what ever way possible I'm not even sure if we can but if one was goin to attack it'd be ok right???I'm pretty sure I have seen pictures of indians with wolf pelts being used for ceremonies and that would be your heritage right? So why is it you don't go out and shoot as many as elk :dunno: I would think you would have more of a leg to stand on that I :dunno:
OH BOY OH BOY I think I found the loop hole we've been looking for :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Post by: runamuk on December 19, 2011, 08:13:06 AM
Wolves Seals bald eagles all under federal protection so tribes are under similar regulations as the states when it comes to them....which is a bummer because seals were a bigger part of the history of many tribes and played a bigger role than whales or salmon...many of the tribes on the coast relied on seals, cod, euchalon (smelt),and many of the berries and roots...... and salmon was a minimal player as was whale in fact whale has consistently remained far more of a staple to the norse people throughout history.....its interesting to note that the species that played a huge role in survival of the coastal peoples are virtually ignored.On the wolf issue you guys can't shoot them? I don't know but id be glad to help with this in what ever way possible I'm not even sure if we can but if one was goin to attack it'd be ok right???I'm pretty sure I have seen pictures of indians with wolf pelts being used for ceremonies and that would be your heritage right? So why is it you don't go out and shoot as many as elk :dunno: I would think you would have more of a leg to stand on that I :dunno:
OH BOY OH BOY I think I found the loop hole we've been looking for :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Post by: HairTrigger on December 19, 2011, 08:28:51 AM
Post by: wraithen on December 19, 2011, 08:31:37 AM
Post by: HairTrigger on December 19, 2011, 08:56:23 AM
Post by: Huntbear on December 19, 2011, 09:08:29 AM
i can honestly tell you if a native killed that bull with a tag and in an area everyone can hunt and during a season that has everyone else huntn in it, then hell i would be one of the first to congradulate him, but what gets old is us non natives taking a back seat to some of the best huntn in the world and have to watch natives get to hunt land that either should be open for permits for everyone to have a chance or left alone, those elk are like the elk at northwest trek they dont have the same instincts to survive hell that elk probably thought someone was just gonna take his picture, damn he was sure wrong
:yeah: :yeah:
Make it a level playing field. Everyone, native and white and black and yellow and whatever ... gets to buy a license and tag and put in for permits.... STOP the I can hunt whenever and however and wherever I want because I am a Native..... That dog hunted 50-75 years ago maybe... but not anymore.
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 19, 2011, 09:20:41 AM
Post by: 724wd on December 19, 2011, 09:48:08 AM
Wolves Seals bald eagles all under federal protection so tribes are under similar regulations as the states when it comes to them....
i thought wolves in E. WA were not federally protected anymore?
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 19, 2011, 09:50:14 AM
Wolves Seals bald eagles all under federal protection so tribes are under similar regulations as the states when it comes to them....
i thought wolves in E. WA were not federally protected anymore?
In parts of E. WA. they are still protected, mainly the 300 GMU areas. I asked the same question.
Post by: high country on December 19, 2011, 10:07:17 AM
Post by: HairTrigger on December 19, 2011, 10:41:22 AM
Just a high fence hunt that I paid for with my tax dollars.MINE TOO
Post by: runamuk on December 19, 2011, 10:41:43 AM
if they arent federally protected then the state could manage however they want in which case we should be able to shoot at will if stock etc is in danger? :dunno:Wolves Seals bald eagles all under federal protection so tribes are under similar regulations as the states when it comes to them....
i thought wolves in E. WA were not federally protected anymore?
In parts of E. WA. they are still protected, mainly the 300 GMU areas. I asked the same question.
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 19, 2011, 11:14:59 AM
if they arent federally protected then the state could manage however they want in which case we should be able to shoot at will if stock etc is in danger? :dunno:Wolves Seals bald eagles all under federal protection so tribes are under similar regulations as the states when it comes to them....
i thought wolves in E. WA were not federally protected anymore?
In parts of E. WA. they are still protected, mainly the 300 GMU areas. I asked the same question.
:dunno: Again, I asked on here if they are still federally protected in the 300 gmu's and the response was "yes" so if they are federally protected then they fall under ESA until that is lifted and they become a threat to the Tribes in the area.
HYPOTHETICALLY, if I was in a 300 gmu area and I came upon a wolf that showed aggression towards myself and family I would put it down because they are not federally protected. If they were still federally protected I would have to go to the extreme to prove we were being shown aggression and life/limb-threatening behavior before I did anything because the tree huggers and bunny lovers would love more than anything to make an example of somebody.
The one thing I would have in favor is being a Tribal Member and hopefully have the support of the Tribe if things turned south for defending my family. The State has shown it's lack of support for anybody defending themselves against wolves so I would definitley see them not taking a stance or supporting the issue.
If they are not federally protected then it would appear that they are open to hunting since the Tribe doesn't have them listed as being restricted or protected in our Fish and Game regs. Besides I thought there were no wolves in Central WA. :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: colockumelk on December 19, 2011, 11:22:02 AM
Post by: seth30 on December 19, 2011, 11:23:43 AM
I love how every thread always comes back to wolves :chuckle: It could be a question about which is the best range finder for bowhunting elk and it would still come back to wolves. :chuckle:I think a few of the waterfowl threads are doing that now. :chuckle:
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 19, 2011, 11:24:55 AM
Post by: Huntbear on December 19, 2011, 11:28:44 AM
Post by: colockumelk on December 19, 2011, 11:33:10 AM
Ok, so hunting wolves is not legal... .can we fish for wolves???? 500 lb. dacron 5/0 treble hook with a raw steak for bait? 10 ft. sturgeon pole? :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
What are you gonna do when you finally real that wolf in? :yike: Hope you got a big club, bigger than for a sturgeon :chuckle:
Post by: seth30 on December 19, 2011, 11:33:48 AM
I wonder how heavy the drag would be on a wolf :POk, so hunting wolves is not legal... .can we fish for wolves???? 500 lb. dacron 5/0 treble hook with a raw steak for bait? 10 ft. sturgeon pole? :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
What are you gonna do when you finally real that wolf in? :yike: Hope you got a big club, bigger than for a sturgeon :chuckle:
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 19, 2011, 11:35:43 AM
Post by: seth30 on December 19, 2011, 11:38:11 AM
Post by: Huntbear on December 19, 2011, 11:40:05 AM
Ok, so hunting wolves is not legal... .can we fish for wolves???? 500 lb. dacron 5/0 treble hook with a raw steak for bait? 10 ft. sturgeon pole? :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
What are you gonna do when you finally real that wolf in? :yike: Hope you got a big club, bigger than for a sturgeon :chuckle:
Treat em like halibut. .410 to the head when ya get em close.
:yike: Never thought of that. Better get my pole out and bring my kids because their dying to do some more fishing. My youngest boy wants to reel in another big one and give it a good wack to the head. :chuckle: We can say the SEA WOLF has now adapted to live in fresh waters in the Pacific Northwest and is now threatening big game wildlife! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Please invite me, I want to take pictures of this.... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I wonder how heavy the drag would be on a wolf :POk, so hunting wolves is not legal... .can we fish for wolves???? 500 lb. dacron 5/0 treble hook with a raw steak for bait? 10 ft. sturgeon pole? :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
What are you gonna do when you finally real that wolf in? :yike: Hope you got a big club, bigger than for a sturgeon :chuckle:
Probably need a reel for marlin or so.. crank it down good and tight and hang on ... :fishin: :fishin: :fishin:
Could we use live bait :chuckle:
Sure there is a large supply of liberals over here on the wetside we can thin them out a little too.....
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: colockumelk on December 19, 2011, 11:49:50 AM
Post by: YoterHunter on December 19, 2011, 06:36:54 PM
Post by: wall of wood camp on December 20, 2011, 07:52:28 PM
I do like that the thread didn't get too out of line and some positive comments came out of it in terms of possible wolf management/iradication when can i book my wolf fishing trip?
Post by: sirmissalot on December 21, 2011, 11:35:08 AM
Spoke with the Radio Station this morning about this and the prize money has not been collected yet and in order for it to be claimed the winner will now have to provide a valid 2011 hunting license, a valid notched 2011 transport tag and the special permit for the area the animal came from if applicable. It should be interesting to see what information will be provided since it doesn't exist but at least i can feel better about the winner if the required info is produced prior to claiming a prize. it took a long discussion and consultation with the game department but I believe we will be able to say in the end justice will prevail and fair is fair.
I do like that the thread didn't get too out of line and some positive comments came out of it in terms of possible wolf management/iradication when can i book my wolf fishing trip?
Thats probably the best news I have heard all year concerning topics such as this. Interesting to see what comes of it
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 21, 2011, 11:38:41 AM
Spoke with the Radio Station this morning about this and the prize money has not been collected yet and in order for it to be claimed the winner will now have to provide a valid 2011 hunting license, a valid notched 2011 transport tag and the special permit for the area the animal came from if applicable. It should be interesting to see what information will be provided since it doesn't exist but at least i can feel better about the winner if the required info is produced prior to claiming a prize. it took a long discussion and consultation with the game department but I believe we will be able to say in the end justice will prevail and fair is fair.
I do like that the thread didn't get too out of line and some positive comments came out of it in terms of possible wolf management/iradication when can i book my wolf fishing trip?
Thats probably the best news I have heard all year concerning topics such as this. Interesting to see what comes of it
:yeah: at least related to this particular person glad he's not going to be able to collect the prize even though he "won". I didn't vote for him because I believed there were other great racks besides this one.
Post by: colockumelk on December 21, 2011, 11:53:51 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on December 21, 2011, 03:43:53 PM
Post by: buckskin on December 21, 2011, 04:35:13 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 21, 2011, 04:40:51 PM
Post by: igotbigbulls on December 21, 2011, 06:33:51 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on December 21, 2011, 06:45:09 PM
I hear you. I just cannot imagine where tribal/non-tribal relations will be in twenty years. I do not see how we can improve things.
We will be paying taxes and access fees to them.
Post by: colockumelk on December 22, 2011, 11:36:59 AM