Post by: swanny on December 21, 2011, 09:00:32 AM
And Subaru's rock! :tup:
Post by: jaymark6655 on December 21, 2011, 09:27:08 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 21, 2011, 09:34:15 AM
Post by: Practical Approach on December 21, 2011, 09:40:58 AM
Post by: CoachNemo on December 21, 2011, 09:45:24 AM
They are good cars, that's for sure we have had my wife's since brand new in 04' and not one issue and mine used since 09 and not one thing has happened. Of course that can be said for most vehicles if you take care of them.
Post by: BIGINNER on December 21, 2011, 09:55:34 AM
Post by: Rick on December 21, 2011, 10:06:34 AM
But then again,my junk is long enough that I don't have to drive a big burly diesel truck to feel like a man.
Almost 9" of ground clearance,a kick ass AWD system,enough cargo room for a *censored*pot full of duck decoys,and it gets 30MPG on the freeway.
If you're not compensating for something,an Outback is about as practical as it gets.
Post by: PolarBear on December 21, 2011, 10:21:36 AM
Post by: Alchase on December 21, 2011, 10:23:25 AM
My daily driver is a 2011 Outback. I couldn't care less what people think about a guy driving it.
But then again,my junk is long enough that I don't have to drive a big burly diesel truck to feel like a man.
Almost 9" of ground clearance,
Up to that point I was starting to feel subconcious :o
LOL
Post by: Johnb317 on December 21, 2011, 10:31:47 AM
Have to wait for the lease returns :)
However.... how about some pics to show what they can do?
My hunt vehicle.... 04 lexus RX330 8)
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 21, 2011, 10:32:17 AM
We bought the wife a Forrester for the AWD (icy Seattle hills), the high NTSB crash safety rating, the decent mileage, the openness of the cabin and the amount of visibility it offers (practically no blind spots), and the practical useability of the cargo area (low, massive and open, weather friendly). I have no regrets, even though it has had a few issues over its 100K+ miles (head gaskets replaced, crank pulley replacement).
It will never be a massive 4x4 pickup, but that is not what it was designed to be. It has decent enough ground clearance for camping off of Forest Service roads without fear of bottoming out. The Forrester is absolutely stable on icy and slick roads.
I hear the 2012 (or even 2011) have replaced the timing belt with a chain for even better longevity and lower lifetime maintenance costs.
For those hating on Subarus for the behavior of the drivers; hate the driver, not the car.
Do yourself a favor if you are in the market, test drive a Subaru. My only slight would be that it could come with a standard warranty better than 30K miles (when we bought ours).
And yeah, we are as conservative as they come, and I don't need a fashion statement in a vehicle.
Post by: newbie76 on January 12, 2012, 02:00:27 PM
My daily driver is a 2011 Outback. I couldn't care less what people think about a guy driving it.
But then again,my junk is long enough that I don't have to drive a big burly diesel truck to feel like a man.
Almost 9" of ground clearance,a kick ass AWD system,enough cargo room for a *censored*pot full of duck decoys,and it gets 30MPG on the freeway.
If you're not compensating for something,an Outback is about as practical as it gets.
I have the same exact car...I love it!
Post by: newbie76 on January 12, 2012, 02:00:56 PM
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 12, 2012, 02:13:26 PM
Post by: Special T on January 12, 2012, 02:15:21 PM
You want a ride that can be fixed with a set of wrenches and 2 specialty sockets, pliers and a pair of vice grips? That can be had for less than $3k and can get 30mpg? has a hi-low range?
You can get any rig stuck but it only takes a comealong and ashovel to get a subie out! :ass:
Post by: FALFire on January 13, 2012, 05:31:50 AM
I just can't seem to get too comfortable in the stock cloth seats so I drive a diesel truck.
I think it has something to do with my junk! :yike: :chuckle: I need a truck to haul it around :tup:
My daily driver is a 2011 Outback. I couldn't care less what people think about a guy driving it.
But then again,my junk is long enough that I don't have to drive a big burly diesel truck to feel like a man.
Post by: rasbo on January 13, 2012, 06:37:34 AM
Post by: GoldTip on January 13, 2012, 06:49:24 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 13, 2012, 06:52:22 AM
Otherwise, yes a safe, durable, AWD vehicle. Ironically today I was considering the the math on mpg savings. She averaged 25 mpg over 130,000 miles. If we compare that to an SUV that got 17mpg, the cost savings would be about $8,000.
Post by: Special T on January 13, 2012, 09:01:04 AM
http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/
Is the best forum around for tech tips and modifications for all Subarus... Subies have a huge following here in the NW, and not just leaf lickers! there are many people that are into the racing-rally sports. If you want to find the weak links and what to look for when buying a used subie then this is the place to look!
Post by: Caseyd on January 13, 2012, 09:30:50 AM
I also have a friend that builds them, the below engine was put in a Gen 1 Forester (aka ForeSTI)
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 13, 2012, 09:36:25 AM
I'm unhappy with the wife's. Subaru rocket scientists made a stupid design for a head gasket :bash: Big $$$ to replace and it seems the rule not the exception to have to replace them at some point. Had ours replaced at the Stealership 20,000 miles ago and I think its slowly started a leak once again. Want to sell it now and move up to a real Japanese car (Toyota).
Otherwise, yes a safe, durable, AWD vehicle. Ironically today I was considering the the math on mpg savings. She averaged 25 mpg over 130,000 miles. If we compare that to an SUV that got 17mpg, the cost savings would be about $8,000.
For future reference, check out Subaru Guru out of Colville, I think. He replaced our for about half of what the dealership would charge, and it still is going strong after about 30K. He's a hunter too. I don't have any information for him handy.
Post by: Special T on January 13, 2012, 09:42:40 AM
Post by: Caseyd on January 13, 2012, 10:01:24 AM
Post by: swanny on January 13, 2012, 02:09:18 PM
I'm unhappy with the wife's. Subaru rocket scientists made a stupid design for a head gasket :bash: Big $$$ to replace and it seems the rule not the exception to have to replace them at some point. Had ours replaced at the Stealership 20,000 miles ago and I think its slowly started a leak once again. Want to sell it now and move up to a real Japanese car (Toyota).
Otherwise, yes a safe, durable, AWD vehicle. Ironically today I was considering the the math on mpg savings. She averaged 25 mpg over 130,000 miles. If we compare that to an SUV that got 17mpg, the cost savings would be about $8,000.
For future reference, check out Subaru Guru out of Colville, I think. He replaced our for about half of what the dealership would charge, and it still is going strong after about 30K. He's a hunter too. I don't have any information for him handy.
There is a Subaru Guru in Kent too.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 13, 2012, 02:11:54 PM
For future reference, check out Subaru Guru out of Colville, I think. He replaced our for about half of what the dealership would charge, and it still is going strong after about 30K. He's a hunter too. I don't have any information for him handy.
There is a Subaru Guru in Kent too.
Don't know if they are affiliated, and I cannot speak for the Kent one.
Post by: Bean Counter on January 13, 2012, 02:31:57 PM
For those of you considering one, realize that 'expensive' means $1,500-2,500, not $450. As I said earlier, I don't recommend Subaru's due to this problem and their corporate attitude about it.
Post by: Special T on January 13, 2012, 02:41:26 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 13, 2012, 03:04:14 PM
http://allwheeldriveauto.com/subaru-head-gasket-problems-explained/
Because of the horizonally opposed engine, the head gasket has physics and gravity working against it. It just wont last like an upright sitting engine will. Its one thing if I were an isolated, disgruntled customer. But most of these vehicles wind up needing a head gasket and no amount of diligent maintenance such as oil changes, coolant flushes, etc will stop the problem.
Spend your money elsewhere :twocents:
Post by: Special T on January 13, 2012, 03:32:09 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 13, 2012, 03:47:32 PM
Post by: newbie76 on January 14, 2012, 07:43:13 AM
Post by: KenPCPilot on January 16, 2012, 02:03:58 AM
Post by: Rick on January 16, 2012, 02:54:08 PM
I am a lesbian :chuckle:,and do want one for my wife someday..I dont know anyone that has been unhappy with them...whar are the prices on them,the outback or forester I was looking at
You want a lesbian for your wife someday? You're a good husband. :chuckle:
Pricing depends on what you want. My '11 is an Outback 2.5i,basically the base model. Still has power windows and locks,am/fm/cd player,cruise/ac,etc.
I went with the 6spd manual because the manuals get a 50/50 split on the AWD. The autos are CVT and IIRC have a 90/10 front bias on the AWD.
Mine was $21,000 after tax and license. A comparable Forester was about $2000 less.
Post by: yajsab on January 31, 2012, 12:01:57 PM