Post by: danderson on December 26, 2011, 09:01:34 AM
Post by: Helix on December 26, 2011, 09:15:23 AM
The real beauty of the mini-14 is reliability. They are extremely dependable with very few parts compared to other black rifles. The parts they do have are beefy and not prone to stoppages or failure. Less parts in my mind equaling less chance to break down. It's not quite AK dependable but you can hammer on them and they won't break. The reciever, bolt, bolt handle and all the opperating parts are steel. No weak spots that I can think of. If you get one, make sure you get one drilled and tapped for a scope as the side mount they were originally designed with is garbage and will not hold a zero no matter what you do to it. Do expect that as it heats up the shots will spread vertically. It's just the way it goes. Best of luck with the mini-14 they are a lot of fun.
Post by: JohnVH on December 26, 2011, 09:21:59 AM
All you want to know about mini's here
http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/ruger-mini-14-mini-30/
Post by: danderson on December 26, 2011, 10:12:27 AM
Post by: JohnVH on December 26, 2011, 11:09:27 AM
Post by: danderson on December 26, 2011, 01:19:39 PM
Post by: Huntbear on December 26, 2011, 02:33:33 PM
You will like it a lot, and you can bang em around in a truck and they still shoot. There is a reason the ranch rifle was very poplular. :tup:
Post by: FC on December 26, 2011, 02:35:53 PM
as for accuracy is this a design probem
It's a design flaw, read up on gas block issues. Typical accuracy you can expect is probably comparable to low end of typical for an AK (3"-5" at 100m)
John if you have a Mini 14 that shoots half inch groups at 100 yards you have about the best shooting mini 14 I have ever heard of for under about two grand. How long do you have to let it cool between shots to hold that kind of accuracy?
Post by: JohnVH on December 26, 2011, 03:08:34 PM
as for accuracy is this a design probem
It's a design flaw, read up on gas block issues. Typical accuracy you can expect is probably comparable to low end of typical for an AK (3"-5" at 100m)
John if you have a Mini 14 that shoots half inch groups at 100 yards you have about the best shooting mini 14 I have ever heard of for under about two grand. How long do you have to let it cool between shots to hold that kind of accuracy?
Gas block issue? Ill have to read up on that, its mainly the barrel whip, so with a strut, brake, and a smaller gas bushing and your done.
I waited about 5 seconds maybe between shots? Ill admit, that is the best group its ever done, typically its about 3/4"-1" max at 100yds. With a strut, the barrel doesnt get hot anymore, after 5 shots the barrel isnt even warm yet.
Post by: FC on December 26, 2011, 03:28:00 PM
http://www.accuracysystemsinc.com/index.php
I'm not trying to piss in anyone's oatmeal here but I would truly have to see a mini 14 that only had $50 worth of improvements done to it that would consistently shoot 3/4 of an inch at 100 yards without the need for frequent fiddling or other assorted magic tricks.
Are mini's fun? Yes! They are fun in much the same way as an AK is fun but without the benefit of a harder hitting cartridge when you actually hit something with one.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 26, 2011, 04:00:09 PM
Post by: jyerxa on December 26, 2011, 05:04:36 PM
http://www.williamsgunsight.com/gunsights/wgrs.htm
I have a couple targets from the last time I went and shot it. This first on is at 100 yards. There were 3 of us shooting my mini at three different targets. We were using the wolf ammo with steal casings because it is cheep for just plinking around.
After about 30 rounds that day my site worked itself loose. Probably 500 to 700 rounds since I put the Williams site on it. I didn’t site it back in but reduced the distance to 50 yards tightened up the site and we shot some more using Kentucky windage. And shot another 45 or so rounds. Then we got hungry and left.
So the barrel got hot. We were shooting with iron sites and shooting cheap ammo. And this is what I got that day. So if you shoot better than me and use better ammo you can do better than that. Let alone using a scope.
And one more thing. One day I was out at the range and a guy wanted to sell me some more steal cased ammo because he was having trouble shooting them in his AR and the gun smith told him to find someone with a mini because they will gobble up anything. Mine does anyway. Never an issue.
100 yards. Open sites, wolf ammo. Minus the three 25-06 rounds that missed due to a screwed up scope. Pointed out with green arrows.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv117%2Fjeff_yerxa%2Ftarget0001.jpg&hash=ff3ab9283f7bb74a00a2523ed882b70a54d4bc2b)
50 yards after my site loosed up and I had to put it back on the mini and guestimated where.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv117%2Fjeff_yerxa%2Fscan0002.jpg&hash=0ceeae8af0dda250d8c0638be64e8880ac99c9b9)
Post by: FC on December 26, 2011, 05:15:58 PM
I'm not trying to be mean here but...congratulations on your best group being 9 at roughly EIGHT MOA! An AR that won't eat steel cased ammo is a pretty rare animal in my experience, I actually haven't run into one that didn't have some other problem.
Post by: jyerxa on December 26, 2011, 05:22:10 PM
Post by: JohnVH on December 27, 2011, 04:36:20 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F308462_10150369711631103_521661102_9618539_1831564947_n.jpg&hash=fd29826ba65944405dc0df5e468957ddcf157b94)
Post by: sirmissalot on December 28, 2011, 12:58:52 PM
Post by: danderson on December 28, 2011, 01:05:38 PM
Post by: fremont on December 31, 2011, 11:39:40 PM
Post by: FALFire on January 01, 2012, 07:03:15 AM
Or........... maybe not :tup: