Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 02, 2012, 03:22:28 AM
They have put out a 300g accubond :IBCOOL: It's got a monster B.C and should be a killer bullet in a lot of guns :IBCOOL:
Just thought I would share, it not on the web yet but it will be soon :drool:
Post by: coyotewallace on January 02, 2012, 03:27:32 AM
Post by: JJB11B on January 02, 2012, 03:29:57 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 02, 2012, 03:44:10 AM
It has a BC OF .720!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: JJB11B on January 02, 2012, 03:50:02 AM
Post by: coyotewallace on January 02, 2012, 03:53:48 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 02, 2012, 04:00:14 AM
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 02, 2012, 04:27:31 AM
Post by: rbros on January 02, 2012, 09:11:56 AM
Post by: Jim the Plumber on January 02, 2012, 09:32:22 AM
If it truly is a .720 BC, then it will be a dandy. I have a small handful in route to test out.
I was told you need my help in testing those, so I'll expect to see 1/2 of them.
Unfied of course :tup:
Post by: Huntbear on January 02, 2012, 09:46:35 AM
Had to find my book!!! Been getting all the stuff from my friends :tup:
It has a BC OF .720!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow! Talk about long range capabilities!!!! Plus the hitting power of a 300 gr. bullet..... I may have to build a new rifle just to shoot these bad boys! Talk about a bulletgasm :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: yorketransport on January 02, 2012, 10:15:32 AM
I'm just as interested in the 200gr 35cal Accubond. That's exactly what the 358 Win needed!
Andrew
Post by: alwinearcher on January 02, 2012, 10:39:17 AM
I have no complaints with the MK's performance on animals and with a BC of .768 I don't know if I would be ready to dropped down to a Nosler with a .720?
Do you know if it's a true .720? I know when Berger first was coming out with their 300 grain .338 they were claiming a BC of over .9!
I think they have dropped that down to a .818 now but that still whoops up on the MK pretty good!
I was reading about rumors of "nose slump" with the new Bergers, but turns out that was only out of the .338 super mags like the Lapua improved.
Sounds like the 300 grain Berger may be the way to go for us guys shooting the Weatherby, Edge , Rum .338's
One of my buddies just switched from the MK's to the Berger and said he is getting 12" less drop at 1020Y with the same zero out of both rounds.
I know I deff want to give the Bergers a try! Might have to test the Nosler too though.
Post by: JPhelps on January 02, 2012, 10:50:28 AM
It will be interesting to see what the B.C. really ends up.
I love the 160s in my 7 mag , but it is not a long range rig.
What do you think the minimum impact velocity would be for these bullets to perform correctly? I thought I remember hearing that the accubonds need speed to expand.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 02, 2012, 11:01:33 AM
Man when I shove the 200g bullets in the case neck it sure feels like a chunk of lead! Now add 100g :yike: :IBCOOL: Man the thud when it hits is going to be sweet :IBCOOL::yeah: Nice to have a bigger bullet available for .338 that isn't a paper hole puncher! Looking forward to giving it a try...should give that retumbo a good workout.
Post by: grundy53 on January 02, 2012, 12:41:11 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 02, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
:yeah:
It will be interesting to see what the B.C. really ends up.
I love the 160s in my 7 mag , but it is not a long range rig.
What do you think the minimum impact velocity would be for these bullets to perform correctly? I thought I remember hearing that the accubonds need speed to expand.
I have played with my 200g some but not as much as I would like. I have seen my accubonds open well and still perform well at what I figure is around 1500fps. Most companies say 1800fps. But some bullets need more to really open and some need less then what they say the minimum is.
I am excited to try them. Most of "if not all" of the other 300g bullets are more build for tactical use or whole punching. Do they kill animals, hell yes. But its nice to see a true bullet built for hunting in the 300g size.
They have been working on these for awhile a long with a few other goodies that no one was supposed to really be talking about until it was released. So when I got my books I had to post it up to share.
Post by: JPhelps on January 02, 2012, 03:06:35 PM
Don't want to hi-jack the thread but do they have anything new for the 7mm or .308?
Post by: TheHunt on January 02, 2012, 03:08:35 PM
Post by: alwinearcher on January 02, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
The burger would deform on initial fire thus would cause accuracy issues. Burger has fixed it and lowered their BC.
Wasnt that just in the super .338 mags?
Either way, they did fix it and lower their BC, but it's still .818 now which is higher than anything else Right?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 02, 2012, 03:41:57 PM
Good to hear. Bullet should perfrom way out there (1000 yds) in the 338 edge class and above.
Don't want to hi-jack the thread but do they have anything new for the 7mm or .308?
Yeah kinda, they put out a new 7mm 168ghpt in 250ct. that the custom competition bullet.
They put out a new 6.5 in 140 ballistic tip which will be great for those guys running 6.5 like the grendel.
Then they also put out a 200g accubond in the .358
They have new loads and new ammunition for 2012. The varmageddon looks pretty sweet.
They also have a new safari line up of loaded ammo.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 02, 2012, 06:44:07 PM
The burger would deform on initial fire thus would cause accuracy issues. Burger has fixed it and lowered their BC.
Wasnt that just in the super .338 mags?
Either way, they did fix it and lower their BC, but it's still .818 now which is higher than anything else Right?
nose slump was experienced with the 1st generation berger 300 grainers about 2800-2850 fps. so yeah probly mostly in super mags. it is fixed with the 2nd generation. berger still recomends around 2650 fps muzzle velocity for best accuracy. thats what they told my cousin with the 338-378 wby. thats where he is shooting them and is getting .6-.7 MOA out to 500 yards. loaded to magazine length.
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 02, 2012, 09:20:22 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 02, 2012, 10:28:26 PM
The accubonds are always great in all of my guns. My 340 shoots well under moa with the 200g bullets.
Post by: woodswalker on January 02, 2012, 10:32:30 PM
I like it!!! I'm glad to see that somebody is going to make a true 300gr LR hunting bullet. The 300gr MK works, but I'm still not convinced that it's a good hunting bullet.
I'm just as interested in the 200gr 35cal Accubond. That's exactly what the 358 Win needed!
Andrew
Andrew, that 200 Grain .35 Accubond will work well in a .35 Whelen Ackley Improved also!
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 02, 2012, 11:15:04 PM
300wm 200g partition
300hh 165g accubond
338wm 250g accubond
338wm 250g partition
338 lapua 225g accubond
375hh 300g accubond
:tup: :tup: :tup:
Also jacked up they are now doing 270wsm brass. They have also added 17rem/221 rem fireball/222rem/223rem all those but the 270wsm are in 100ct boxes. :tup:
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 03, 2012, 12:44:21 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 03, 2012, 07:40:17 AM
I love nosler!!!
Post by: TheHunt on January 03, 2012, 09:38:00 AM
The burger would deform on initial fire thus would cause accuracy issues. Burger has fixed it and lowered their BC.
Wasnt that just in the super .338 mags?
Either way, they did fix it and lower their BC, but it's still .818 now which is higher than anything else Right?
nose slump was experienced with the 1st generation berger 300 grainers about 2800-2850 fps. so yeah probly mostly in super mags. it is fixed with the 2nd generation. berger still recomends around 2650 fps muzzle velocity for best accuracy. thats what they told my cousin with the 338-378 wby. thats where he is shooting them and is getting .6-.7 MOA out to 500 yards. loaded to magazine length.
Post by: alwinearcher on January 03, 2012, 09:43:30 AM
I have read several bad reviews from te Gen 1 though.
When you buy the bullets you need to make sure you are not buying gen 1 bullets. I also think that the suggested lower velocity makes the 338 Edge and RUM less attractive as those weapons were purchased for the higher speed.The burger would deform on initial fire thus would cause accuracy issues. Burger has fixed it and lowered their BC.
Wasnt that just in the super .338 mags?
Either way, they did fix it and lower their BC, but it's still .818 now which is higher than anything else Right?
nose slump was experienced with the 1st generation berger 300 grainers about 2800-2850 fps. so yeah probly mostly in super mags. it is fixed with the 2nd generation. berger still recomends around 2650 fps muzzle velocity for best accuracy. thats what they told my cousin with the 338-378 wby. thats where he is shooting them and is getting .6-.7 MOA out to 500 yards. loaded to magazine length.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 03, 2012, 09:50:29 AM
Post by: rbros on January 03, 2012, 03:56:00 PM
Post by: alwinearcher on January 03, 2012, 09:13:17 PM
Running the Gen 2 Bergers at 2950 in my Edge with no accuracy issues at all. The Gen 1's were not so pretty.How do you think they are performing compared to other bullets you have shot from your edge?
Post by: rbros on January 04, 2012, 07:30:08 AM
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 05, 2012, 08:24:48 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 05, 2012, 09:01:07 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 05, 2012, 10:12:42 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 06, 2012, 02:18:02 AM
Do you know if the 300 grain will be cannelured? I know they have some for 6.8, 9.3, .375 but since this is new I can't find info on it. None of my .308 or .224 stuff is cannelured.
No, to my knowledge the majority of the standard Accubonds sold for reloading are non canular. Nosler does do many of the Accubonds with a canular for ammunition manufacturers. such as Winchester , Federal Etc.Which use a crimp on their factory loaded ammunition. I have purchased many Accubonds through Nosler that do have a canular, these were marked as seconds or they were sold to me as overruns/extras from ammuntion manufacturers orders. I have got smoking deals on new not seconds, canular Accubonds through Nosler that were over runs.
Such as .257 110gr Accubonds, I would buy them 500 or so at a time for almost half price. They weren't seconds, just overruns. I still have a bunch with canulars and all of the 110 Accubonds I have purchased locally do not have a canular. I also have a bunch of .30 cal 180gr Accubonds with a canular purchased the same way but all of the ones I purchased locally do not have a canular.
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