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Title: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Kain on January 04, 2012, 12:04:38 PM
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http://wdfw.wa.gov/news/jan0412b/

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January 04, 2012
Contact: Rocky Beach, (360) 902-2510


Annual survey confirms 27 wolves,
including three breeding pairs, in Washington


OLYMPIA—The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife’s (WDFW) year-end survey of the state’s five confirmed wolf packs has found three successful breeding pairs totaling at least 27 wolves.

The tally, conducted through field work and aerial monitoring, found two of the successful breeding pairs in the Eastern Washington wolf-recovery region and one in the North Cascades recovery region. A successful wolf breeding pair is defined as an adult male and female with at least two pups that survive until the end of the calendar year.

There also is evidence of unconfirmed packs in the Blue Mountains of southeastern Washington and at Hozomeen in the North Cascades, as well as transient single wolves, according to Rocky Beach, WDFW’s wildlife diversity program manager.

“We will continue to follow up on all reports of possible wolf sightings,” Beach said. “We will be working again this spring and summer to confirm new packs and pups and to capture and fit additional wolves with radio collars for monitoring.”

The radio collars use Global Positioning System (GPS) and Very High Frequency (VHF) technology.

Under the recently adopted Washington wolf conservation and management plan, wolves will be removed from the state’s endangered species list once 15 successful breeding pairs are documented for three consecutive years among three wolf-recovery regions (four pairs in Eastern Washington, four pairs in North Cascades, four pairs in South Cascades/Northwest Coast, and three pairs in any recovery region).

The gray wolf (Canis lupus) currently is protected by the state as an endangered species throughout Washington and is federally listed as endangered in the western two-thirds of the state.

Last month’s survey work yielded these details about Washington’s five confirmed wolf packs:

Diamond Pack, in Pend Oreille County and Idaho, numbers 10 wolves, including a breeding pair with at least two pups. A 2-year-old, radio-collared, female wolf was legally trapped and killed in Idaho in December before the count was made. Another radio-collared female from the pack was last located in November in Idaho and is currently missing; a third radio-collared female remains with the pack.
Smackout Pack, in Stevens and Pend Oreille counties, numbers five wolves, including a successful breeding pair with three pups. None have radio collars.
Salmo Pack, in Pend Oreille County and British Columbia, includes three wolves. One wolf with a VHF radio collar is still being monitored.
Teanaway Pack, in Kittitas County, numbers seven wolves, including a successful breeding pair with at least two pups. The breeding female is equipped with a GPS radio collar and still is being monitored.
Lookout Pack, in Okanogan County includes two wolves with no pups; neither has a functioning radio collar.
More information on the packs and summaries of the 2011 count is available at: http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/. WDFW also will provide state totals in a 2011 annual report to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service later this month.

Beach noted that any news of additional wolves confirmed through field work later this year will also be posted on the WDFW wolf webpage.

Reports of possible wolf sightings can be made to WDFW’s wildlife reporting line by calling 1 (877) 933-9847.
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Kain on January 04, 2012, 12:06:29 PM
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Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Special T on January 04, 2012, 12:08:46 PM
Well that sounds about right....  :o   We have documented over 100 so of course the WDFW would only have 25% of those confirmed!  :bash:
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: 724wd on January 04, 2012, 01:19:13 PM
the  :bs: is getting deep over there on facebook.  too bad dallas and karen don't go exploring the back country unarmed, covered in stuff wolves like... :mor:

heath
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: jager on January 04, 2012, 01:27:21 PM
My favorite...Dallas Bolen: Fellow hunters, you have to realize, YOU and any other special interest group, are not a priority. The landscape and ecology is.
.....*censored*bag   :sry:
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Woodchuck on January 04, 2012, 01:33:20 PM
Well that sounds about right....  :o   We have documented over 100 so of course the WDFW would only have 25% of those confirmed!  :bash:
25% out of a total that was generated by less than 10% of the state's total hunters.
Another fine piece of work.  :bash:
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Huntbear on January 04, 2012, 01:34:04 PM
I think if every hunter that is on Facebook would make comments on that link about the BS factor and the state doing nothing for the hunters just the PETA lovers,, it may cause some to pause
 :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: grundy53 on January 04, 2012, 01:34:35 PM
left my opinion...
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: DoubleJ on January 04, 2012, 01:40:40 PM
the  :bs: is getting deep over there on facebook.  too bad dallas and karen don't go exploring the back country unarmed, covered in stuff wolves like... :mor:

heath

I got banned for not "STaying on topic".  It won't let me post anymore and all of my comments have been deleted.

My favorite one was on their topic of ejoying the annual spectacle of watching elk, big-horn sheep, and other wintering wildlife in their wintering grounds.  I replied with:


I can't wait to enjoy the annual spectacle of bringing my kids to watch elk, big-horn sheep, and other wintering wildlife get slaughtered at their wintering grounds by wolves.
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: DoubleJ on January 04, 2012, 01:42:22 PM
Someone who is also FB friends with Runamuck tried to friend me as well.  I declined cause I didn't know who it was.  If you tried to friend John Jones, please let me know.
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Huntbear on January 04, 2012, 01:54:10 PM
Double J, that was me...
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: DoubleJ on January 04, 2012, 01:56:19 PM
Double J, that was me...

Gotcha.  I see that I deleted and blocked it.  I'll send the friend request to you.  be aware though, you'll have to deal with my wifes hard left obama worship views from time to time :chuckle:
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: boneaddict on January 04, 2012, 01:58:48 PM
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Lookout Pack, in Okanogan County includes two wolves
    JOKE is on YOU! :chuckle:

How discouraging.
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Huntbear on January 04, 2012, 02:17:40 PM
Double J, that was me...

Gotcha.  I see that I deleted and blocked it.  I'll send the friend request to you.  be aware though, you'll have to deal with my wifes hard left obama worship views from time to time :chuckle:

That is all good,, I have a sister that is the same....    :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: DoubleJ on January 04, 2012, 02:33:32 PM
they keep deleting my comments on the FB page.
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 04, 2012, 02:36:11 PM
How long have they been radio collering wolves?
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: JohnVH on January 04, 2012, 02:44:33 PM
I try to stay away from those posts, I always end up battling that karen *censored* about the wolves.
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: PlateauNDN on January 04, 2012, 02:49:49 PM
they keep deleting my comments on the FB page.

It might have something to do with your privacy settings might check to see if you have it set to public view or friends? :dunno:  Talked with my teenage sis-in-law and she said that might be the problem? :dunno:  I was wondering the same thing as well and figured I'd call the leading experts I know on the FB stuff. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: bearpaw on January 04, 2012, 02:52:12 PM
They will probably delete my reports, I'm sure they will not like the number of wolves I reported....  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: DoubleJ on January 04, 2012, 02:53:30 PM
they keep deleting my comments on the FB page.

It might have something to do with your privacy settings might check to see if you have it set to public view or friends? :dunno:  Talked with my teenage sis-in-law and she said that might be the problem? :dunno:  I was wondering the same thing as well and figured I'd call the leading experts I know on the FB stuff. :chuckle:

It's accepting all of them but, when I leave and come back, some of my more pressing comments are gone but others remain.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: DoubleJ on January 04, 2012, 02:54:07 PM
They will probably delete my reports, I'm sure they will not like the number of wolves I reported....  :chuckle:


Any chance in a frozen hell that they would contact you for help with the issues you pointed out?
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Huntbear on January 04, 2012, 03:00:42 PM
they keep deleting my comments on the FB page.

It might have something to do with your privacy settings might check to see if you have it set to public view or friends? :dunno:  Talked with my teenage sis-in-law and she said that might be the problem? :dunno:  I was wondering the same thing as well and figured I'd call the leading experts I know on the FB stuff. :chuckle:

They delete anything that they do not want the general public to see.  It might not put them in a good light and all you know.  There is no room for discussion, just the views they want the populace to see. 
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: DoubleJ on January 04, 2012, 03:16:09 PM
Another FB friend request from a guy that has a big elk in his FB avatar.  Who are you?  Not releasing names but the initials are M. T.
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: DoubleJ on January 04, 2012, 03:18:49 PM
I told Runamuck that I am getting so popular now.  LOL.  Before this, I had 9 FB friends.  My friend list is gonna double by the end of the night.  Then, when they see what a *censored* I can be and the rantings of my anti wife, they'll dump me later.
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washin
Post by: buglebuster on January 04, 2012, 03:20:37 PM
It was me it was me  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washin
Post by: DoubleJ on January 04, 2012, 03:21:02 PM
It was me it was me  :chuckle:

It was you!  K.  Give me a few and I'll accept it
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Special T on January 04, 2012, 05:08:14 PM
I've read some of those posts on FB I would think it is more important to make solid posts like i have seen Kain do, that to call people out. Calling names and arguing with bunny huggers isn't going to accomplish anything. If you want to get in a vergal fight, find a Stealers fan!  :chuckle: I think the best thing you can do is call BS on stuff and provide facts... that Karen gal, Likely just a shell, just repeats everything full of fluff. Think of it as a chance to reach out to those on the fence, and sell good management. :twocents: I would like to see it flooded with thoughtful posts with praise,when earned, and honest criticism.
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Jim the Plumber on January 04, 2012, 05:22:01 PM
My favorite...Dallas Bolen: Fellow hunters, you have to realize, YOU and any other special interest group, are not a priority. The landscape and ecology is.
.....*censored*bag   :sry:
You should go look at his facebook page, it tells the story, and from the looks of his picture(s) he's afraid of bathing also...
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Kain on January 04, 2012, 05:42:16 PM
It is frustrating posting on Facebook.  Everytime I go to respond to one of the other posts by the time Im done typing there are five posts between mine and the one I was responding to.   :chuckle:  It make it look like Im responding to the one directly above my post.  Then when I close facebook and reopen it there are a ton of posts I didnt even see before.
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 04, 2012, 05:59:12 PM
Posting on that FB page is a waste of breath and time. They do it to get support from the wackos and to legitimize their mistakes. You guys are playing into their hands by posting. Just my  :twocents:
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: DoubleJ on January 04, 2012, 06:06:59 PM
I wasn't calling names.  The posts that were deleted might have been a bit biting but, they still should have stayed IMO.



OK, whos friending me now?
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: huntinguy on January 04, 2012, 09:22:57 PM
Three breeding pair? what are the other 21 wolves doing :o  :hello:

Hmmm. Wonder how accurate the other game animal reports are??????
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: bugs n bones on January 04, 2012, 09:26:43 PM
There way off as usual!!!!! they want 15 pairs before we "MIGHT" have an opportunityto do something about it??????? There wont be any elk left to eat! You know if everybody got together and said were not going to buy a license till something changes around here they might wake up?
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: DoubleJ on January 04, 2012, 09:32:13 PM
There way off as usual!!!!! they want 15 pairs before we "MIGHT" have an opportunityto do something about it??????? There wont be any elk left to eat! You know if everybody got together and said were not going to buy a license till something changes around here they might wake up?

 :beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse:

Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Special T on January 04, 2012, 09:35:35 PM
I think you should keep hunting and killem before the wolves do.... I would rather starve a wolf....
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: boneaddict on January 05, 2012, 07:08:01 AM
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Three breeding pair? what are the other 21 wolves doing   


LOVE IT......    They're all virgins
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: fishinmike on January 05, 2012, 02:57:51 PM
I was reading some stuff on the Consevation Northwest website and it states this-The Teanaway pack was documented just north of I-90 in the central Washington Cascades and the Smackout pack near the Selkirks, bringing the wolf population to five confirmed packs and 30  to 50 animals. July 2011. So this was in july of last year and now the WDFW is saying only 27 wolves? WTF
Title: Re: Annual survey confirms 27 wolves, including three breeding pairs, in Washington
Post by: Gobble Gobble on January 05, 2012, 03:22:31 PM
 
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Three breeding pair? what are the other 21 wolves doing   

Hmmm. Wonder how accurate the other game animal reports are???

They want 15 breeding pair for 3 years before they will consider de listing them.

Lets do the math here...
H-W alone has documents 100 +/- wolves
WDFW has confirmed 27 with 3 breeding pairs

Since WDFW is 1/4 of what H-W has documented that would mean there are more like 12 breeding pair.
27=3 breeding
100=12 breeding

With those numbers it would mean the WDFW would need to confirm 135 wolves to get their 15 breeding pairs and H-W members would have documented 500 wolves making it 60 breeding pairs.

Now that’s if there is any wild game and livestock left for them to eat and they haven’t started starving to death.

Either way the numbers just don't add up.
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