Post by: ing on January 06, 2012, 09:14:46 AM
Post by: JohnVH on January 06, 2012, 09:36:06 AM
Post by: Button Nubbs on January 06, 2012, 09:47:48 AM
Post by: ing on January 06, 2012, 11:35:38 AM
I have the sf. Super accurate, love the sf grip, 15+1 should git er done!Is the difference between these two grips that noticable? I guess the grip on the 20 feels pretty blocky to a lot of people. I havnt had the chance to hold either of these models yet.
Post by: h20hunter on January 06, 2012, 11:58:46 AM
Post by: sled on January 06, 2012, 12:24:31 PM
Post by: jyerxa on January 06, 2012, 12:43:34 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on January 06, 2012, 01:01:27 PM
H20- HEAVY :chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 06, 2012, 01:28:08 PM
I thought I had a handful with a 10+1 subcompact 45. :chuckle:
Post by: NW-GSP on January 06, 2012, 01:37:27 PM
They are not that pricey to shoot, outdoor imporum in seattle sells a box of fifty for $17 a box
If you reload them its only around $8 a box
Btw if you do get one or any other glock take it to sams gun club and they will do a trigger job for $20 that will take the trigger pull down to about three and a half lbs
Post by: ing on January 06, 2012, 05:04:04 PM
15+1 in 10 mm is some serious power....what does that thing weigh fully loaded?39.51 oz. according to their website.
Post by: Gutpile on January 06, 2012, 07:28:30 PM
Post by: Doug6XC on January 06, 2012, 09:22:25 PM
Post by: Jim the Plumber on January 06, 2012, 09:34:59 PM
I've shot 2-3000 rounds out of them, makes a very nice hiking/ hunting companion side arm.
Post by: yorketransport on January 07, 2012, 07:33:54 AM
There are other 10mm autos out there which I feel are better guns. The Dan Wesson CCBT was my favorite, but the Kimber Eclipse, EAA Witness, and Colt Delta Elite are all nice as well. There are options out there other than Glock, so be sure to look around.
Andrew
Post by: Gutpile on January 07, 2012, 08:50:27 AM
Post by: ing on January 07, 2012, 10:57:01 AM
I've had both the 20 and the 29, and the SF version is worth getting. The grip reduction doesn't look like much but it does make a big difference. The SF wasn't around when I had my Glocks, so I ended up selling both of them because they just didn't fit that well, which made it difficult for me to shoot them accurately. If you're a reloader, the Glock is pretty hard on your brass as well unless you put in an aftermarket barrel.I've researched some of the others as well. It seems like a lot of people have had problems with the Kimber and Dan Wesson brought back the RZ 10 this year. I think they are both around $1200 to $1300. I do like the 1911 better just dont want to spend that much at this time.
There are other 10mm autos out there which I feel are better guns. The Dan Wesson CCBT was my favorite, but the Kimber Eclipse, EAA Witness, and Colt Delta Elite are all nice as well. There are options out there other than Glock, so be sure to look around.
Andrew
Post by: yorketransport on January 07, 2012, 04:16:06 PM
You have goid points but the EEA Witness is not a better firearm than the Glock. The others you mention are surely nice but very spendy.
The Witness has some good qualities, it's price point being one of them. It's also the only all steel 10mm I know of for under $750 bucks. The recoil from a Glock 20 with full power ammo is pretty snappy. More than I think most people are willing to deal with. The same load in an all steel gun is much more manageable.
I've researched some of the others as well. It seems like a lot of people have had problems with the Kimber and Dan Wesson brought back the RZ 10 this year. I think they are both around $1200 to $1300. I do like the 1911 better just dont want to spend that much at this time.
If you shop around you can get some pretty good deals. I sold my Dan Wesson CCBT for $800, and I bought my Kimber Eclipse for $600 used. It just takes some looking.
Andrew
Post by: splitshot on January 07, 2012, 08:48:16 PM
Post by: wraithen on January 07, 2012, 09:01:26 PM
Post by: yorketransport on January 07, 2012, 09:37:56 PM
A full power 10 mm should throw 180s at more than 1250 fps. Most readily available factory ammo is considerably slower.
A 9mm is .355-.356"
Andrew
Post by: actionshooter on January 07, 2012, 10:06:37 PM
Post by: yorketransport on January 08, 2012, 08:08:45 AM
Andrew
Post by: actionshooter on January 10, 2012, 09:42:21 PM
If you're getting 41 mag ballistics from a 10mm, your loads are way to hot! With a 41 my I was getting 250gr bullets at 1250 from a 4" barrel. If you push a 10 mm that hard you're in big trouble!
Andrew
Look at your ballistics again, a full load 10mm is damn close to a mid range .41
Post by: Gutpile on January 10, 2012, 10:32:51 PM
the max load from a 5" 10mm is a 200 grn bullet at 1150.
They are similar but not exactly equal. Im in the mid 1200's in my G20 with 200 grn xtp's and high 1100s in my 29.
My 41 is right at 1400.
Personally 15 rounds at 1250 fps gets the nod from me for a woods gun. Plus a Glock being a Glock I dont worry about getting it dirty or wet. I love the 10, its just oozing with coolness.
Post by: actionshooter on January 11, 2012, 09:34:39 PM
10mm is about the coolest round out there. :twocents:
Post by: Gutpile on January 11, 2012, 11:31:53 PM
Post by: JJB11B on January 11, 2012, 11:36:29 PM
Post by: Jburke on January 12, 2012, 12:54:39 AM
Expensive to shoot.I have a friend who has this exact gun and shoots .40s out of it when plinking and carries it loaded with 10mm's while in the woods.
Post by: NW-GSP on January 12, 2012, 04:13:25 AM
Expensive to shoot.I have a friend who has this exact gun and shoots .40s out of it when plinking and carries it loaded with 10mm's while in the woods.
Is he shooting .40s out of thr stock 10mm barrel :dunno:
Post by: actionshooter on January 12, 2012, 08:36:58 PM
Post by: yorketransport on January 12, 2012, 08:40:57 PM
You can shoot .40s out of the 10mm if you load them long.
:bdid:
Be very careful who you tell that to, that sounds like a good way to get someone hurt. :twocents:
Andrew
Post by: actionshooter on January 12, 2012, 08:57:15 PM
Post by: wraithen on January 12, 2012, 10:12:20 PM
Post by: JJB11B on January 12, 2012, 10:17:18 PM
Post by: Jburke on January 13, 2012, 01:19:07 AM
Yep. I'm not saying that anyone should do it themselves. Just that it can be done. Hell, almost anything can be done but that does not mean I would recommend anythingExpensive to shoot.I have a friend who has this exact gun and shoots .40s out of it when plinking and carries it loaded with 10mm's while in the woods.
Is he shooting .40s out of thr stock 10mm barrel :dunno:
Post by: actionshooter on January 13, 2012, 06:05:35 PM
Just buy the Lonewolf .40 cal conversion barrel for 100 bucks and be done with it. Dont mess with loading them long...Well, since I have a custom STI in .40 that the ammo has to be loaded long for, I have an abundance of ammo that works in my G20.
Post by: ing on January 15, 2012, 09:36:47 AM