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Title: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: splitshot on January 07, 2012, 06:41:17 PM
  am going to get a springfield xdm in either a 40 or a 45.  have shot a 45 and it was smooth with very little recoil.  any ideas or comments as to which to buy.  maybe i should get one of each.   mike w
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 07, 2012, 07:57:53 PM
I carry a xdm almost every day. Mine is a 40 and I run 180g pdx wins threw it. They are a super gun. They also just put out a competition model that I saw for the first time the other day and I like it a lot.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: splitshot on January 07, 2012, 08:05:38 PM
forgot to mention you can shoot these things under water.  you need to be within 4 feet or so or no deal.  i shot a carp at 3 feet and it swam off slowly.  what a blast.   the guns are very easy to clean.   you can take them down in about 10 seconds  .  nothing rusts.  mike w
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: Fowlweather25 on January 07, 2012, 08:15:30 PM
40 s&w cheaper to feed! Still a ton of knock down power with a 180 gr pdx
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: norsepeak on January 07, 2012, 08:27:54 PM
Why limit yourself? Get both, that's what I did.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on January 07, 2012, 08:33:01 PM
I have a .45 XD, and like it very much.  I had a .40 XD Sub-Compact, and it shot very well, but after buying an FNX-9, I was so impressed with the FN, I sold the XD-40 and bought an FNP-40 when one came up for sale.  Don't get me wrong, the Springfields are great guns, but I just like the FNs better.  Being an old-school codger, I'm more comfortable with a hammer on my pistols.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: splitshot on January 07, 2012, 08:38:24 PM
  what is a fnp-40?  mike w
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 07, 2012, 08:51:06 PM
I have a .45 XD, and like it very much.  I had a .40 XD Sub-Compact, and it shot very well, but after buying an FNX-9, I was so impressed with the FN, I sold the XD-40 and bought an FNP-40 when one came up for sale.  Don't get me wrong, the Springfields are great guns, but I just like the FNs better.  Being an old-school codger, I'm more comfortable with a hammer on my pistols.

Thats why you need to shoot a xdm :chuckle: :tup: There is a huge difference between the 2 :tup:
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 07, 2012, 08:56:07 PM
Like they say. A 9mm and .40 cal may expand but the .45 sure isn't going to shrink.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: Fishnclifff on January 07, 2012, 09:27:44 PM
I carry my 40 XDM.
Like shooting 45, but the 40 with 165gr is smoother and easier to refocus on target.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: DeerHarvester on January 07, 2012, 09:28:06 PM
You need to shoot both, then decide.  Don't get hung up on mag capacity or ballistics. Either caliber will get the job done.  Pick the one that feels right and you will shot it a lot more thus becoming proficient. I own the 45 XDm because it works for me.  I also own a 40cal, but I don't shot it nearly as often.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: FC on January 07, 2012, 09:30:07 PM

Thats why you need to shoot a xdm :chuckle: :tup: There is a huge difference between the 2 :tup:

Some folks like a better trigger, hammer fired is the way to go for that!
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 07, 2012, 09:33:25 PM
The match trigger in the xdm is like soft butter to me :tup:
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: JLS on January 07, 2012, 09:38:11 PM
Like they say. A 9mm and .40 cal may expand but the .45 sure isn't going to shrink.

Yes.  I'll take the bigger hole anyday.  If you don't need it for concealed, then the drawbacks to the .45 are greatly negated.  Usually a .45 will offer a little better shootability vs. a .40 because of the recoil.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: FC on January 07, 2012, 10:19:00 PM
The match trigger in the xdm is like soft butter to me :tup:

The XD(m) has a match barrel but it has a horrid pile of cow dung for a trigger :) I had one if you recall and I'm quite familiar with the gun. If you do a trigger job on it you might be shocked at just how much better you will shoot it! All of the Springfield poly pistols are tanks but their stock triggers are nearly as bad as a Glock's. Even with a good trigger job they are just up to terrible when compared to the cheapest stock 1911 on the planet...
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: bloodhound on January 07, 2012, 10:37:27 PM
i got a 45 xd been real happy with it. but downside is really hard to conceal "comfortably" i have to pack it like an o.g. in the front of my waist or open carry it.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: 700xcr on January 07, 2012, 11:25:16 PM
Depends on use of the gun. I carry a XDM 45 auto after carrying a Ruger Super Redhawk 44mag. with a 7-1/2" barrel. I wanted to replace the heavy revolver and still shoot heavy weight bullet.  I reload so cost is not a issue with me. I must the trigger is a little different then I am use to but after shooting the XDM with my reloads I am shooting quarter size groups with it and having fun. Like said in earlier post you need to shoot both and see what fits your needs. :twocents:
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on January 07, 2012, 11:31:39 PM
  what is a fnp-40?  mike w

FN, For Fabrique Nationale.  P is FN's model designation for the .40 Cal. pistol.  The FNX-9 is the new version of the FNP-9, with 17 round mags instead of 15 rounders in the FNP-9, and some cosmetic changes.  In addition to the hammer, I also like the decocker/safety, and the double-action capability, and the ease of changeing the backstraps.  The Loaded Chamber Indicator is a part of the extractor, but works pretty much the same as on the XDs.

I've not shot the XDm version of the Springfields, but I have tried the trigger pull in both.  Some say the M's trigger is better, but I can't tell much difference.  The biggest improvement in the M is that on takedown you don't have to pull the trigger to remove the slide.  Takedown on the Springfields is virtually the same on the FNs, and is childishly simple, with no pins to pull or match lines to align, which is a plus.  Both guns are a great choice, it's just a matter of personal taste to me.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on January 07, 2012, 11:44:00 PM
By the way, one thing that happened when I shot a lot of rounds through my XD-45, is that the crud from the dirty Bullseye powder built up under the Loaded Chamber Indicator until it stayed up, showing one in the chamber even when there wasn't a round in the chamber.  When I cleaned the gun, I had to drive the roll pin out and remove the Loaded Chamber Indicator and its tiny spring to clean the powder residue out of the recess so it would go back down again.  Not a big job, but somewhat of a PITA.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 08, 2012, 12:09:26 AM
The match trigger in the xdm is like soft butter to me :tup:

The XD(m) has a match barrel but it has a horrid pile of cow dung for a trigger :) I had one if you recall and I'm quite familiar with the gun. If you do a trigger job on it you might be shocked at just how much better you will shoot it! All of the Springfield poly pistols are tanks but their stock triggers are nearly as bad as a Glock's. Even with a good trigger job they are just up to terrible when compared to the cheapest stock 1911 on the planet...

 :chuckle: Hey now those are almost fighting words :chuckle: I have a collection of handguns that would put most to shame. From stock to the most custom a guy can get. I really like the trigger in them and will shoot it as good or better then the 1911's I have shot and owned :tup: Note the word owned :chuckle: But everyone has there own ideas and things they like. There is a reason the xmd is on my hip almost every day.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: FC on January 08, 2012, 12:27:58 AM
I had to drive the roll pin out and remove the Loaded Chamber Indicator and its tiny spring to clean the powder residue out of the recess so it would go back down again.  Not a big job, but somewhat of a PITA.

I had to do that a couple of times on my XD(m), PITA indeed!

:chuckle: Hey now those are almost fighting words :chuckle: I have a collection of handguns that would put most to shame. From stock to the most custom a guy can get. I really like the trigger in them and will shoot it as good or better then the 1911's I have shot and owned :tup: Note the word owned :chuckle: But everyone has there own ideas and things they like. There is a reason the xmd is on my hip almost every day.

I hear ya on the individual likes, I even liked my XD(m) after I did the trigger job on it but I had already had to shoot a few thousand rounds of 22 to get rid of the flinch I developed from that trigger. I'm not trying to pick on ya for your girl gun  :chuckle: just calling it what it is, I have no idea why they put match barrels in those and such poor triggers. Don't get the idea that I am partial to 1911's btw, the closest to a 1911 that I own is a tokarev.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 08, 2012, 12:38:54 AM
Oh no, My girl gun has served me well and kept my ass safe in more then a couple bad deals in the last few years. So no one will hurt my feeling on what they say about them. I am just telling it how it is from my end :tup:
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: FC on January 08, 2012, 12:41:02 AM
Oh no, My girl gun has served me well

I should sig that  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: FC on January 08, 2012, 12:43:18 AM
ROFL!
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 08, 2012, 02:17:48 AM
 :chuckle: :tup:
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: 700xcr on January 08, 2012, 09:05:09 AM
By the way, one thing that happened when I shot a lot of rounds through my XD-45, is that the crud from the dirty Bullseye powder built up under the Loaded Chamber Indicator until it stayed up, showing one in the chamber even when there wasn't a round in the chamber.  When I cleaned the gun, I had to drive the roll pin out and remove the Loaded Chamber Indicator and its tiny spring to clean the powder residue out of the recess so it would go back down again.  Not a big job, but somewhat of a PITA.
Have you tried a different powder then Bullseye?  Are you shooting cast bullets? Titegroup works really well in my XDM 45 with the Montanna Gold bullets. The only thing my gun didn't like so far is Oregon Trails cast bullets. Tried some test loads and gun would not go into full battery after I shot them. Cleaned afterwards and gun goes into battery. So I will stick with Montanna Golds or another plated bullet.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: CHSNGSTLHD on January 08, 2012, 09:22:38 AM
I just bought The 4.5 40 sw OD/Black for $529 @ gunbroker. I went back and forth between the black/black or the OD/Black and finally settled on the OD.  Can't wait until it gets here  :). Does anybody else have the bi-tone?
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: FC on January 08, 2012, 11:29:26 AM
I just bought The 4.5 40 sw OD/Black for $529 @ gunbroker. I went back and forth between the black/black or the OD/Black and finally settled on the OD.  Can't wait until it gets here  :). Does anybody else have the bi-tone?

The OD looks really good on those.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: bloodhound on January 08, 2012, 04:35:15 PM
mine is od/black
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: Harp444 on January 09, 2012, 06:12:38 PM
Saturday bought springfield xdm compact 45. very smooth trigger and surprisingly accurate with is small barrell. Very happy with all my springfield pistols. I have xd 9mm and mc operator 1911. gotta love springfield.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: demontang on January 10, 2012, 07:31:39 AM
I have a 45 xd and its been a great gun, I even took a coyote with the thing :chuckle:  I carry mine a lot and its not to hard to hide unless its summer time and 100+. Im looking at the xdm or the match grade 45 now I think it time for an upgrade :tup:
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on January 10, 2012, 07:50:49 AM
By the way, one thing that happened when I shot a lot of rounds through my XD-45, is that the crud from the dirty Bullseye powder built up under the Loaded Chamber Indicator until it stayed up, showing one in the chamber even when there wasn't a round in the chamber.  When I cleaned the gun, I had to drive the roll pin out and remove the Loaded Chamber Indicator and its tiny spring to clean the powder residue out of the recess so it would go back down again.  Not a big job, but somewhat of a PITA.
Have you tried a different powder then Bullseye?  Are you shooting cast bullets? Titegroup works really well in my XDM 45 with the Montanna Gold bullets. The only thing my gun didn't like so far is Oregon Trails cast bullets. Tried some test loads and gun would not go into full battery after I shot them. Cleaned afterwards and gun goes into battery. So I will stick with Montanna Golds or another plated bullet.

As soon as I've used up the Bullseye a friend gave me, I'm going to use one of the Ramshot powders.  But at 5 grains per shell, it's going to take a while.
My 45XD is a Dark Earth Bi-tone.  Might be what is now called Coyote Tan?  :dunno:
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: C-Money on January 10, 2012, 12:44:11 PM
I like the Sig 238 for normal carry. I usually take the M9 on day trips to the mountains. The Blackhawk .357 for around camp.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: 700xcr on January 10, 2012, 07:12:09 PM

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As soon as I've used up the Bullseye a friend gave me, I'm going to use one of the Ramshot powders.  But at 5 grains per shell, it's going to take a while.
My 45XD is a Dark Earth Bi-tone.  Might be what is now called Coyote Tan?  :dunno:
[/quote] 1400rds. per pound of powder.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: thinkingman on January 12, 2012, 07:26:11 AM
Like they say. A 9mm and .40 cal may expand but the .45 sure isn't going to shrink.

Yes.  I'll take the bigger hole anyday.  If you don't need it for concealed, then the drawbacks to the .45 are greatly negated.  Usually a .45 will offer a little better shootability vs. a .40 because of the recoil.
Beat me to it.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: doyourtime89 on January 12, 2012, 09:06:30 AM
I haven't shot or carried the 45....I have the 40 and love it.
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: Bofire on January 12, 2012, 10:15:54 AM
 :)all things equal in this gun, for these uses, I favor fat bullets.
Carl
Title: Re: 40 or 45 xdm
Post by: Rickitt on January 12, 2012, 11:40:29 AM
I carry XD45 everyday {Little Much} but i love the gun! I shoot about 100 rounds through it a week and it has never failed or miss fired. If your looking to buy a gun i would talk with Discount Gun Sales, there a great bunch of people and ther gun range are well kept and member only. :twocents:
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