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Big Game Hunting => Bear Hunting => Topic started by: thefirefighter on July 21, 2008, 08:45:11 AM

Title: calls and baiting?
Post by: thefirefighter on July 21, 2008, 08:45:11 AM: So i had a couple questions is it illegal to set up bate weeks before season and not bait during season? And can you use elctronic calls or only hand calls for bear?
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bucklucky on July 21, 2008, 08:50:00 AM: Look back in the bear section, this same thing was posted and answered a few weeks ago. Should have the info you are looking for :)
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bearmanric on July 21, 2008, 08:52:00 AM: no baiting period. yes you can use elctronic call's. and hand call's. right now there watching for baiter's opening day your dead meat. Rick
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: thefirefighter on July 21, 2008, 08:53:57 AM: thanks a lot rick i guess thats a no go haha now i need to return the stuff i got at cabelas damnit got any new calls i can buy
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bearmanric on July 21, 2008, 09:02:29 AM: close to a hundred. getting ready for the world predator hunting expo in kansas aug 21-24. i'll be turning some walnut bear call's today closed reed.you dont want to get caught baiting. expensive. Rick
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bucklucky on July 21, 2008, 09:07:11 AM: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,7780.0.html

Here is some more info also.
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: MountainWalk on July 21, 2008, 09:26:17 AM: in jefferson county, it would almost be worth it to try. something about the law being unclear.
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bearmanric on July 21, 2008, 09:45:46 AM: go for it. there still going to bust you. you will have to pay for the value of your gun to get it back. the eight people that got busted paid dearlly. i was across the river when they got caught. have fun in court. you have to go to belfair or something like it. you will spend plenty of money to see if it is legal or not. Rick
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: MountainWalk on July 21, 2008, 09:47:43 AM: dont think i would try it, but i remember something about how folks somehow beat it.
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bearmanric on July 21, 2008, 10:17:15 AM: there from olympia. yes they beat it but you dont get all the money you lost back. the game warden that doe's they area said he will bust you for bait or scent. i guided matheny from 93-97 baiting, got 42 bear's hunting weekend's during august. i miss it very much. it isnt worth the stress. that is were i got my name bearmanric. bear baiting will never come back. the game department said so. the old conivore guy. said department didnt want to deal with it. all the study's and stuff they would have to do. a bear plan. like a wolf plan. they dont have the money. Rick
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on July 21, 2008, 12:13:32 PM: Quote from: bucklucky on July 21, 2008, 08:50:00 AM
Look back in the bear section, this same thing was posted and answered a few weeks ago. Should have the info you are looking for :)

Your starting to take after Taxi.net members bucklucky! :chuckle: "Search Button" . . . . ,"Search Button" . . . . . "Search Button" . . . . . It's in the archives! :chuckle:
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bucklucky on July 21, 2008, 12:20:16 PM: I didn't feel like typing, I gave hime the link to one of them too ;)
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: Machias on July 21, 2008, 02:27:26 PM: Actually in Jefferson County the prosecutor stated they would no longer pursue charges against anyone caught bear baiting, so you wouldn't need a lawyer, because it will never make it to court. They can arrest you as many times as they want to, but if it never goes to court then it wouldn't cost you a dime. Now I'm not advocating you doing this, but this was what the prosecurtor stated in court and in the papers.
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bearmanric on July 21, 2008, 02:56:17 PM: the game warden said. he would bust you. they take your gun. it will cost you money. that is for scent only. the 8 people that got busted in the sting. three were in treestand's on bait. the rest had blue berry scent on there feet. the judge through out the scent. the game warden is not a very nice guy. i wouldnt want to test him. you could try it. to me it is not worth the problem's. get away from that game warden. talk to other's they might see it different. the first bust was in toledo. they were sappose to through it out there to. Rick
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bearmanric on July 21, 2008, 03:02:56 PM: people can do what they want. my friend talked to the game warden. that is what he said. i like to use elk and deer scent for cover scent when bear calling. but nervous dont want to go through the hassle's. this is matheney were it happened. Rick
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on July 21, 2008, 03:07:56 PM: I wish I could bait again. The law is F*ucking stupid. Ask me how I really feel.....
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bucklucky on July 21, 2008, 03:32:17 PM: Quote from: Passion on July 21, 2008, 03:07:56 PM
I wish I could bait again. The law is F*ucking stupid. Ask me how I really feel.....

O.K. , I will ask . So Passion, how do you really feal about not being able to legally bait for bears in Washington state? :boxin:
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: billythekidrock on July 21, 2008, 04:03:23 PM: Again... you guys can try it if you want, but it will cost you even if you don't get prosecuted. I have been told that calling with fawn/calf distress while wearing deer/elk cover scent is not a good idea and that depending on the gammie, you could be cited. So I would definately say no to any scent that is not urine based and I would not "mist".
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: griz272000 on July 21, 2008, 08:39:17 PM: man i just thought of this . i planned on putting out some feed for deer and elk during bear season . i wonder how that works do you have to kill a bear on bait to get busted ? or can you not have bait when bear hunting. its not like i will be hunting on the bait until deer season
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: PolarBear on July 21, 2008, 08:54:18 PM: Do what you want but trying to justify illegal actions because of ignorance or defiance will make you no better than the idiot who blatantly shoots an animal out of season. Baiting is baiting whether it be in or out of season, for hunting or photography, if you shoot the bear over the bait or 200 yds up the trail from it. If you cannot live with the law, even though it may suck, hunt another state where it is legal. I hold my hunting rights far to dearly to chance losing them, or my gear just because of disregard for the law or greed.
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: Machias on July 21, 2008, 09:31:17 PM: The "LAW", what a farce.

You know bears LOVE to get into camps and eat the toothpaste. Warden: "Sir, did you brush your teeth this morning?"
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bucklucky on July 21, 2008, 11:35:54 PM: Quote from: Machias on July 21, 2008, 09:31:17 PM
The "LAW", what a farce.

You know bears LOVE to get into camps and eat the toothpaste. Warden: "Sir, did you brush your teeth this morning?"

:chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: Krusty on July 22, 2008, 11:29:42 AM: Rick,

Can you PROVE that any of those 8 people used any type of scent?

I didn't think so! >:(

And neither could the wardens!

Unless you want to end up in civil court, for slander and liable, you'd better stop making unfounded accusations.

Krusty :hello:

P.S. Feel better now, miles?
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bearmanric on July 22, 2008, 12:16:37 PM: what the hell are you talking about. Rick :dunno:
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bearmanric on July 22, 2008, 12:22:40 PM: were did i mention your name. sue me for what. :'(
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bearmanric on July 22, 2008, 12:25:32 PM: mile's and Krusty havnt a clue what are you talking about. how can i get sued's for not mentioning name's.Rick
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: bearmanric on July 22, 2008, 12:32:15 PM: ok just coulndt figure out what i did. thank's for clearing it up. Rick
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: MountainWalk on July 22, 2008, 12:46:09 PM: it was pretty funny or pretty serious, depends on ypur mood i guess.
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: rainshadow1 on July 22, 2008, 12:55:04 PM: Quote from: PolarBear on July 21, 2008, 08:54:18 PM
Do what you want but trying to justify illegal actions because of ignorance or defiance will make you no better than the idiot who blatantly shoots an animal out of season. Baiting is baiting whether it be in or out of season, for hunting or photography, if you shoot the bear over the bait or 200 yds up the trail from it. If you cannot live with the law, even though it may suck, hunt another state where it is legal. I hold my hunting rights far to dearly to chance losing them, or my gear just because of disregard for the law or greed.

There's so much truth in that statement I don't even know where to begin...

There's a PILE of laws on the books, and in the hunting Regulation pamphlet, that I don't agree with and have serious, intelligent, well researched gripes about... but if you don't obey the law because you don't agree with it, you're ABSOLUTELY NO BETTER than the guy who poaches for ****-eat'n grins, or for pure greedy profit. Dirtbags! And you're aligning with them? Wake up guys! You're undermining all legal hunters and all the potential we have in the future to get stupid laws changed.
Title: Re: calls and baiting?
Post by: KillBilly on July 22, 2008, 01:29:51 PM: Quote from: Krusty on July 22, 2008, 11:29:42 AM
Rick,

Can you PROVE that any of those 8 people used any type of scent?

I didn't think so! >:(

And neither could the wardens!

Unless you want to end up in civil court, for slander and liable, you'd better stop making unfounded accusations.

Krusty :hello:

P.S. Feel better now, miles?

Rick may not be able to prove it, But I could have.

You are acting ignorant as usual Krusty, you know what they were doing.
It is no different than seeing 2 white men with guns on the reservation a couple of years ago, they tried to deny that too. 3 witnesses to that.

Al :hello: