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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Bofire on January 17, 2012, 07:40:52 PM

Title: I have been looking at AR's
Post by: Bofire on January 17, 2012, 07:40:52 PM: :) I think I need one. I am convinced I need a really GREAT lower, a wonderful trigger. I like the collapsable stock, I think?? I want a 223/5.56, 20 inch barrel LIGHT. flat top. must be accurate. maybe HBAR barrel. I might get heavy barrel later or other cartridges or short light barrel. I want a FSRH(or whatever initials) hand guard not a round one. I might buy two, I saw these kits to build one for less than $600.00, would be a good way to learn all about them. Lets hear it guys, what do ya'll say.
Carl
Title: Re: I have been looking at AR's
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 17, 2012, 07:44:41 PM: Kits are a great way to go. Just make sure if you want a really good trigger you don't just get a plain kit. Most time the high end kits with good triggers will run you 125-300. Some kits you can get with the upper already done so you don't have to worry about doing the head spacing and such. There is a lot of kits that you can just add a 80-200 lower in and build a good gun. Mine will always end up with about 5 different comapines gear in it :chuckle: Give me the chance to make it custom to my likes. PSA has some very good kits as will and I think if you spend 250+ its free ship as well :tup:
Title: Re: I have been looking at AR's
Post by: JohnVH on January 17, 2012, 09:10:03 PM: they are addicting though, be forwarned! I should have my 6.5 Grendel AR together next week, and Im already scheming on what other ones to build!

I assembled my lower from parts, it was fun, and super easy. Good luck, keep us posted!
Title: Re: I have been looking at AR's
Post by: thinkingman on January 18, 2012, 01:44:08 PM: Collapsible buttstock and accuracy are two different things....start with an A2 or skeleton stock.
I agree on the trigger...Rock River two-stage is the most cost effective.
Title: Re: I have been looking at AR's
Post by: dannysdaddy on January 18, 2012, 03:42:39 PM: Quote from: thinkingman on January 18, 2012, 01:44:08 PM
Collapsible buttstock and accuracy are two different things....start with an A2 or skeleton stock.
I agree on the trigger...Rock River two-stage is the most cost effective.

i dissagree. i can consistently hit clay pigeons at 300 yards with and eotech 553 on my ar with a collapsible stock.
Title: Re: I have been looking at AR's
Post by: FC on January 18, 2012, 04:32:11 PM: Quote from: dannysdaddy on January 18, 2012, 03:42:39 PM
Quote from: thinkingman on January 18, 2012, 01:44:08 PM
Collapsible buttstock and accuracy are two different things....start with an A2 or skeleton stock.
I agree on the trigger...Rock River two-stage is the most cost effective.

i dissagree. i can consistently hit clay pigeons at 300 yards with and eotech 553 on my ar with a collapsible stock.

If we are talking about more than 1/20 at a real 300 yards, that is impressive. I am guessing a very good rest from an above average gun in terms of accuracy using good ammo if not handloads and an above average shooter. A collapsible stock I can see with an Eotech but that kind of shooting with a 1x optic that uses a 1MOA dot is well beyond what the average guy can do.
Title: Re: I have been looking at AR's
Post by: thinkingman on January 18, 2012, 04:37:49 PM: Quote from: FC on January 18, 2012, 04:32:11 PM
Quote from: dannysdaddy on January 18, 2012, 03:42:39 PM
Quote from: thinkingman on January 18, 2012, 01:44:08 PM
Collapsible buttstock and accuracy are two different things....start with an A2 or skeleton stock.
I agree on the trigger...Rock River two-stage is the most cost effective.

i dissagree. i can consistently hit clay pigeons at 300 yards with and eotech 553 on my ar with a collapsible stock.

If we are talking about more than 1/20 at a real 300 yards, that is impressive. I am guessing a very good rest from an above average gun in terms of accuracy using good ammo if not handloads and an above average shooter. A collapsible stock I can see with an Eotech but that kind of shooting with a 1x optic that uses a 1MOA dot is well beyond what the average guy can do.
Exactly...beat me to it.
That's winning a Service Rifle competition accuracy.
Repeatable cheek weld is key to repeatable accuracy and the fashionable collapsible buttstock does not allow that.
Here's a random video on accurate AR's...not a collapsible in the bunch.
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Title: Re: I have been looking at AR's
Post by: FC on January 18, 2012, 04:39:29 PM: Quote from: thinkingman on January 18, 2012, 04:37:49 PM
Repeatable cheek weld is key to repeatable accuracy and the fashionable collapsible buttstock does not allow that.

That is why you put your nose against the charging handle, try it.
Title: Re: I have been looking at AR's
Post by: JohnVH on January 18, 2012, 05:23:15 PM: Quote from: thinkingman on January 18, 2012, 01:44:08 PM
Collapsible buttstock and accuracy are two different things....start with an A2 or skeleton stock.

I dont fully understand that...

I also dont see a problem here, is this not accurate? This thing outshoots every bolt gun Ive seen, and it has an adjustable stock on it.

Quote from: Biggerhammer on December 22, 2011, 11:51:43 AM

This is the last Grendel I built, I used a 18" stainless Alexander Arms match barrel. Had it turned down and lightened up, threaded 5/8-24 for a suppressor and shortened to 17". Scary accurate with Factory Hornady 123 A-max match loads.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto2-16.jpg&hash=2447cdf9557a7592a3c7f9c52daaecdd7e811323)

This is my Grendels best 300 yards groups shot last fall with Hornady match 123gr .

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