Post by: hunter93 on January 19, 2012, 05:15:08 PM
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Post by: JLS on January 19, 2012, 05:53:22 PM
Use your 30-06 and take the money you would have used on a new rifle and maybe upgrade the optics or buy a handgun or some new binoculars. Just my opinion
Agreed. If you have money to burn and just want something different, go for it. Hard to beat an '06 or a .270 though.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 19, 2012, 05:54:16 PM
I'll throw out 338 mag, find a version you like ie win mag, rum, edge.
Then you have a more versatile gun collection.
Post by: 700xcr on January 19, 2012, 06:14:10 PM
hey everyone what gun should i get for elk and deer. i usually use a 30-06 but want something new, what should i get?If you have a 30-06 use that for your deer and elk gun. You may want to think about a smal caliber rifle for varmints or a larger caliber like a 375 for africa. :twocents:
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Post by: Hornseeker on January 20, 2012, 08:00:27 AM
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depends, how good of a shot are you? If your a bad shot, buy the biggest gun you can. If your a good shot, buy anything legal.
Im sure that statement was made tongue in cheek...but just in case it wasn't... there is nothing further from the truth...
The 7 is great, but I am not a magnum fan in general and have shot the 06' for 27 yrs now. However, its fun to have different guns. If you want a new deer and elk gun, the 7 would be great, as would the 300 WSM or 300 WM... I'd be inclined to go with the WSM... not even sure why though!! :dunno:
Post by: nwwanderer on January 20, 2012, 08:06:35 AM
Post by: Huntbear on January 20, 2012, 09:29:18 AM
Elk gun = .300 WSM or .338 WM.
That said.. none will do a good job if you can not shoot accurately. PRACTICE!
Post by: fish vacuum on January 20, 2012, 09:48:31 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 20, 2012, 09:56:04 AM
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Post by: Huntbear on January 20, 2012, 10:18:57 AM
I like the .338 cals, been thinking of getting a 338 fed for a mountain gun so I dont have to pack my 11lb .338win :chuckle:
I am thinking that may be my next one as well... of course I also want it in an AR platform. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: addicted on January 20, 2012, 10:38:42 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 20, 2012, 10:45:29 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 20, 2012, 10:48:32 AM
Reinvent what you have. Shoot it so much you know what it does with all of the different bullet weights and loads designed for quarry. Your '06 has them all. Spend the money on optics, ammo and range time;
:yeah:
Post by: JJB11B on January 20, 2012, 11:11:27 AM
Post by: RadSav on January 20, 2012, 11:34:26 AM
The choice also depends on if you handload. When you compare heavy for caliber bullets, the 7mag really offers very little improvement over the 30-06 if you are talking about 175gr bullets in the 7mag and 180gr in the 30-06, maybe 75 to 100fps faster with the 7mag. However, in factory rounds the 300win mag will run 200-225fps faster than the 30-06 with both factory loaded 180gr bullets. If you just want a new gun, and you shoot factory loads, then if your really trying for an INCREASE in gun for elk and deer, it's truly a no brainer in my opinion. Go with the 300 win mag. Truthfully, your best off just sticking with what you got and maybe do some upgrade on it, make it lighter, or a better stock and trigger or something like that.
The Chrony could possibly be the worst invention to the contentment of any rifle or bow hunter. To put these differences into perspective think about this. My 65# recurve bow with heavy aluminum 2020 arrows will shoot faster than that difference mentioned in the 7mm to 06 reference. Shoot carbon arrows out of it and it will shoot the difference mentioned between the 06 and the 300 WM. Guys tend to get all wired up over a minimum percentage in velocity. In reality there really isn't much difference. Most importantly find something you know you are going to shoot well and practice.
Post by: Huntbear on January 20, 2012, 11:57:59 AM
DPMS 338Federal(necked up .308) minimal kick and knockdown power like a 7mm mag(per their ads)
Yes, have seen the ads... unfortunately... my wallet does not agree with my mind... :chuckle: :bash: :dunno: :bash:
Post by: demontang on January 20, 2012, 12:07:56 PM
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Post by: JohnVH on January 20, 2012, 02:02:51 PM
i think im gonna go with the 7mm thanks for the help
Awesome choice, I LOVE mine, and you can take anything with it.
Post by: addicted on January 20, 2012, 09:53:52 PM
DPMS 338Federal(necked up .308) minimal kick and knockdown power like a 7mm mag(per their ads)
Yes, have seen the ads... unfortunately... my wallet does not agree with my mind... :chuckle: :bash: :dunno: :bash:
someday we'll get one. :'(
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/58351/ArmaLite+338+Federal+w22%22+Stainless+Match+BarrelNational+M
Post by: fish vacuum on January 21, 2012, 02:16:54 AM
i think im gonna go with the 7mm thanks for the help
There are numerous 7mm cartridges. So, like your original post, this post is lacking detail.
Post by: addicted on January 21, 2012, 09:47:34 AM
i think im gonna go with the 7mm thanks for the help
There are numerous 7mm cartridges. So, like your original post, this post is lacking detail.
7mm08
284winchester
7wsm
7x64
.280rem
7mmremmag
7STW
:dunno:
Post by: KillBilly on January 21, 2012, 10:17:30 AM
i think im gonna go with the 7mm thanks for the help
There are numerous 7mm cartridges. So, like your original post, this post is lacking detail.
7mm08
284winchester
7wsm
7x64
.280rem
7mmremmag
7STW
:dunno:
By the way... a 7MM STW is not a 7MM cartridge, it is derived from an 8MM belted cartridge and there were 4 choices to choose from during the wildcat phase.
Also, .280rem is not .284/7MM. the cartridge may be a 7MM case necked down but not .284
Post by: addicted on January 21, 2012, 10:32:27 AM
i think im gonna go with the 7mm thanks for the help
There are numerous 7mm cartridges. So, like your original post, this post is lacking detail.
7mm08
284winchester
7wsm
7x64
.280rem
7mmremmag
7STW
:dunno:
By the way... a 7MM STW is not a 7MM cartridge, it is derived from an 8MM belted cartridge and there were 4 choices to choose from during the wildcat phase.
Also, .280rem is not .284/7MM. the cartridge may be a 7MM case necked down but not .284
none of the ones I mentioned are true 7mm cartridges, they are all .284(7.2mm). ;)
halfway down this page for the .280. the 7stw reads the same killbilly. ;)
http://www.chuckhawks.com/280Rem.htm
If you want a true 7mm(.277) rig, your gonna have to get a .270 lol. just cuz a case isnt derived from the particular bullet diameter doesnt mean that the cartridge in question can't be designated by the bullet diameter. Thats like saying a 300winmag isnt a 30(.308) caliber cartridge because the casing is derived from a .375
Post by: Miles on January 21, 2012, 10:53:43 AM
Post by: addicted on January 21, 2012, 11:04:56 AM
hang out with you too much.
Post by: Miles on January 21, 2012, 11:27:43 AM
I think i'm about to get banned from the blaser forums. lol.
hang out with you too much.
:chuckle:
Post by: addicted on January 21, 2012, 11:40:57 AM
I think i'm about to get banned from the blaser forums. lol.
hang out with you too much.
:chuckle:
gonna take the dogs for a walk back in the woods if you guys wanna come with. church ends at noon so after that. i'll bring the new gun...
Post by: KillBilly on January 21, 2012, 04:13:43 PM
Addicted, you're lucky they took away his moderating powers. You'd be banned for an outburst like that.
I never banned anyone while a Mod. hmm you might have been a first though :hello:
Post by: addicted on January 21, 2012, 11:34:37 PM
Addicted, you're lucky they took away his moderating powers. You'd be banned for an outburst like that.
I never banned anyone while a Mod. hmm you might have been a first though :hello:
But please let me know if my 7mm findings were off?
and i've got one or two more to add to the list I didnt think about before. the 275 H&H(aka 7x57), the 7mm dakota, and the 7mm mashburn(super magnum).
heck, if all you want to shoot up to is 170-180 grains you might as well go with a 7mm cartdridge, and if you want to go 200 grains and up you better just skip the 30 cal cartridges and go straight to the 338's. :chuckle:
Post by: TwoSixFourWins on January 24, 2012, 04:01:48 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on January 24, 2012, 04:09:08 PM
Use your 30-06 and take the money you would have used on a new rifle and maybe upgrade the optics or buy a handgun or some new binoculars. Just my opinion
:yeah: Nothing wrong with the '06, spend the money on good optics. Put a good scope on the '06... :tup:
Post by: 400out on January 24, 2012, 04:12:38 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 24, 2012, 05:01:02 PM
Probably too late now but my vote would have to go to the 264 Win Mag (I'm on a mission to resurrect the cartridge :chuckle:) Especially if you handload. But even if you don't there are still some really good factory loads available now....Just stay away from ammo from remington :o
My go to gun! My granddad had it made and gave it to me, excellent deer rifle! I wouldn't hesitate to use it on elk, but I got a 338 for that. I wish they made 160gr bullets, hornady had some but not anymore. Cabelas has a 50th anniversary edition that would be awesome to own. I'm running 140 grain accubonds now, it's a tack driver!
Post by: C-Money on January 24, 2012, 05:17:58 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 24, 2012, 05:21:12 PM
Open sight 30-30! :tup: :tup: :tup:
:yeah:
Post by: duckman nale on January 24, 2012, 05:38:08 PM
Post by: Huntbear on January 24, 2012, 05:39:47 PM
Open sight 30-30! :tup: :tup: :tup:
So what happens when your eyes are bad enough that you can not longer see the front sight? :bash: :bash: :dunno: :'( :'(
Post by: wraithen on January 24, 2012, 06:04:26 PM
Post by: Huntbear on January 24, 2012, 06:32:41 PM
Post by: splitshot on January 24, 2012, 09:06:42 PM
Post by: 400out on January 24, 2012, 09:32:09 PM
:chuckle: if that happens then I will find you on here talking about no deer being in your area :chuckle: :chuckle:Open sight 30-30! :tup: :tup: :tup:
So what happens when your eyes are bad enough that you can not longer see the front sight? :bash: :bash: :dunno: :'( :'(
Post by: splitshot on January 24, 2012, 09:36:36 PM