Post by: elkslayer069 on January 30, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on January 30, 2012, 06:43:41 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 30, 2012, 06:46:00 PM
Post by: KillBilly on January 30, 2012, 06:56:36 PM
Post by: mazama on January 30, 2012, 07:19:27 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 30, 2012, 07:22:17 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2012, 07:24:47 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 30, 2012, 07:37:27 PM
Go to a faster burning powder like H4350.
One of my favorite powders. :tup:
Post by: elkslayer069 on January 30, 2012, 09:06:48 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on January 30, 2012, 09:13:31 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2012, 10:34:15 PM
Well Im right to the point of being afraid of blowing out a shoulder on the case. I know that the less space the better. I have friend who has 2 or 3 pounds of the short cut and we were just going to trade if I can more in the case. Just trying to save some cash before buying a different powder. Thanks for your input guys. :tup:
It might help if you could tell us what the cartridge is. :dunno:
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 30, 2012, 10:40:02 PM
You big bore guys got it made--try loading IMR 4198 in a .22 hornet case. Or a .17 fireball. Good news: It's the powder that gives the best accuracy in small calibers. Bad news: The long grains make metering small charges a PITA!
Hahaha! Try seating a .458 CEB 370gr Non Con on top of a 106grs of Win 748 in a Ultra Mag case. Doesn't matter how hard you crank on that handle they want to pop back up. Gives a guy a serious complex for the first round at the bench, it just doesn't feel right. :o
Post by: elkslayer069 on January 30, 2012, 11:39:51 PM
Post by: mazama on January 31, 2012, 12:08:58 PM
Post by: KillBilly on January 31, 2012, 12:19:21 PM
With Reloder 17 reloaders have a powder that meters easy and consistently while providing maximum velocity even in extreme weather. This consistent performance is what reloaders have come to expect from Alliant Powder - and Reloder 17 proves worthy.
•Designed for short magnum case capacity
•Similar burn speed to IMR 4350
•Meters easily and consistently
•Consistent maximum velocity in extreme weather conditions
Post by: luvtohnt on January 31, 2012, 12:21:51 PM
I know you were trying to save money by using what you have, but I have no experience with the SC powders so the above is all I can offer for advice.
I do know one thing, I shot 3 rounds into a bucket of sand to check expansion and weight retention. WOW is all I can say. The bullets opened nicely and the average weight retention was 98%!!! One shot in Wyoming through the lungs and the bull only went 40 yards before going down for good. I still have the bullets and can take pics if anyone is interested.
Brandon
Post by: hub on January 31, 2012, 09:51:53 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 31, 2012, 10:13:07 PM
Post by: elkslayer069 on January 31, 2012, 10:38:14 PM
Post by: hub on January 31, 2012, 10:47:32 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 31, 2012, 10:56:16 PM
Not opposed to changing powders but like i said im getting the crunch so I'll have to pick up some 4350 and try the SC this weekend and see what happens. Keep ya posted
Yeah in one of my 270wsm's I use the 4831sc and get the crunch, even though I don't load anything close to max. My other one I run the imr 4350 and have been very happy with it.
Post by: elkslayer069 on January 31, 2012, 11:23:53 PM
Post by: mazama on February 01, 2012, 06:52:21 AM
Post by: str8meat on February 01, 2012, 11:29:08 AM
Post by: hub on February 01, 2012, 12:46:12 PM
I have ran 4350 and r17 through a chrono 4350 cannot touch r17 i now use R17 in my hunting loads even though i still hve a few lbs ov 4350 but i still use h4831sc in big cases or with lightweight bullets.Excellent info. Last time I used 4350 in a 338 I got excellent accuracy.
I just checked my records. 71.5 grains gave me 2800 with a 225 grain speer bullet. That was a max load from Nosler manual 5. I don,t know alot about the 338 but it appears 2800 is ball park decent.
Post by: Buckblaster on February 04, 2012, 10:51:20 AM
Post by: yorketransport on February 04, 2012, 06:30:55 PM
When in doubt though, try a slightly faster powder. For me, if H4831 doesn't work I try H4350 or Re17.
Andrew
Post by: KillBilly on February 04, 2012, 06:54:44 PM
I love H4831 SC. You could try using a 6" drop tube when charging the case. Also, try gently tapping the case as you drop the powder in. It will help to "settle" the powder and make it pack a little tighter.
When in doubt though, try a slightly faster powder. For me, if H4831 doesn't work I try H4350 or Re17.
Andrew
Drop tubes make a big difference... and I think you meant RL-17