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Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: Snopczynski on February 01, 2012, 11:55:45 PM

Title: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: Snopczynski on February 01, 2012, 11:55:45 PM: I keep hearing and reading about people "switched to the Kiyi" What call is the kiyi in the foxpro?
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 01, 2012, 11:59:11 PM: The sound of a yote after it has been shot or is getting hurt. It is a yote in distress sound and very deadly :tup:
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: Snopczynski on February 02, 2012, 12:05:54 AM: 3 Questions:

Why do yote distress calls work?

Why do pup distress calls work?

What small animals do we have over in eastern washington for distress calls? Rabbits? Fawn's? What works for the distress calls?
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 02, 2012, 12:10:30 AM: I have 3 standard calling sounds. A bird in distress/fawn in distress and a rodent in distress. These 3 have produced more for me then anything else by a long shot.

The distress yote sounds work very well because it triggers a instinct in the yotes to come to protect the young or to fight off another yote. That may be in there area. I pretty much never leave a area without using one of the two either by the elec call or my mouth calls :tup:
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: aer212 on February 02, 2012, 08:56:40 AM: Not trying to be contrary Matt, but I have NEVER had coyote distress of any kind(pup or adult) work for me. I have called a bunch with a simple mouse distress though.
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: Snopczynski on February 02, 2012, 03:00:04 PM: ok, so what preyed upon animals are there in eastern washington? Trying to figure out what distress calls to use?????? (Rabbits, mice, rats,?????????)?????

How about the same thing for the western side?

Why do bird calls Work for luring them in???

Which bird calls do you want to use for eastern washington?

What about birds for western washington?

Are birds preyed upon? Or are they an indication of something dead?

What about hawks? I have a Mojo hawk decoy, and a mojo critter.

What about house cat or small domestic dog sounds?
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: Fowlweather25 on February 02, 2012, 03:02:26 PM: Cottontail in distress is usually fool proof! Fawn in distress can be a good back up. Use a mouse or small rodent in distress as a coaxer,(close in to finish the yote into range).
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: wraithen on February 02, 2012, 03:03:29 PM: Quit over thinking it. It's more about the sound than the animal. It's more about the pitch and cadence, not necessarily what it comes from. Everyone seems to have their favorites.
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: seth30 on February 02, 2012, 03:04:18 PM: I have heard from several turkey hunters that the turkey calls seem to work better on yotes than turkeys.
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: Fowlweather25 on February 02, 2012, 03:07:31 PM: :yeah: the reason I say cottontail is because it's an abundant food source on the east side of the hump that yotes dig! Mouse for a coaxer because it's quieter and less likely to spook the yote at close ranges. But more important than anything is to make it sound horrible if nothing else yotes are territorial and curious animals! They will want to check it out. And mot importantly don't repeat the same call over and over.
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: Caseyd on February 02, 2012, 03:12:28 PM: Quote from: aer212 on February 02, 2012, 08:56:40 AM
Not trying to be contrary Matt, but I have NEVER had coyote distress of any kind(pup or adult) work for me. I have called a bunch with a simple mouse distress though.

Pup in distress usually works well for me :dunno:

It once called in a tripple in under 10 minutes.

Im guessing it all depends on location also.
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: seth30 on February 02, 2012, 03:13:49 PM: also, none of us know how many times a coyote has come in and busted us either.
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: sebek556 on February 02, 2012, 04:04:44 PM: location location location, you have to scout where you will be calling to look for signs of what is the yotes main prey types in that area, my turkey hunting spot i use turkey calls, this is because I usual shoot a yote trying to steal my decoy every year. Further north I have a spot that I use rabbit( I try to stay away from popular sounds though cause they tend to be over called) also in the spot time depending fawn distress. other spot I us phesant distress cause they are alot of them running around there. get on the ground scout your spot prior to hunting them. and if it is a really slow day I hit buttons at random :chuckle:
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: Caseyd on February 02, 2012, 04:25:35 PM: The last line is my favorite :chuckle:
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 02, 2012, 04:51:55 PM: Quote from: aer212 on February 02, 2012, 08:56:40 AM
Not trying to be contrary Matt, but I have NEVER had coyote distress of any kind(pup or adult) work for me. I have called a bunch with a simple mouse distress though.

Maybe you ain't doing it right :chuckle: There is a reason it is so popular and a lot of people have killed thousands of yotes with those sounds :tup: I don't call as much as i would like to, but I am sure I have shot probably 30-40 yotes with those sounds over the years.

Also that is why foxpro has setup foxbang and probably close to 90% of the people that use it use the ki-yi in it. There is a ton of guys with more talent for calling yotes then me on here. I am just above avg Joe in my mind. You ask any of the guys putting numbers up if the ki-yi and pup distress is affective and I am sure they will let you know one answer. YES
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: aer212 on February 02, 2012, 05:04:48 PM: Not saying it doesn't work, just saying it has never worked for me. I know tons of people use it and that's why I keep trying it but it still hasn't worked for me.
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 02, 2012, 05:11:51 PM: Have you tried using it from the start and just calling with it? Or just after you shoot something? I have had it work both ways. When they get dens and you can find there area, you can kill a lot of dogs with the 2 sounds paired together.
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: Caseyd on February 02, 2012, 05:13:51 PM: I have had more success using it from the get go.

I would also consider myself an average joe.

I would like to hear the input from some of the seasoned guys out there.
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: Jerry malbeck on February 02, 2012, 06:57:33 PM: Kiyi or pup distress is a sound that is way overused thru out the year But is very effective if used in moderation @ the right time of year If you plan on calling the same ground .
Using Kiyi will cause ALARM to coyotes in area just as a warning bark .
Most coyotes that respond to a Kiyi are the dominant animals in said area.
Coyotes responding to a Kiyi are Not responding to help hurt pup as stated
but are responding to the sound of a hurt or fight between other less dominant coyotes in a area and are looking for a upper hand in the fight for food or whatever.
When used a lot in a given area over time coyotes will become less likely to respond to a Kiyi and will become suspect of said sound .
Best to use in small doses, @ peak times of year . Do I always use a Kiyi after a coyote is called in and shot? Not unless I'm calling for a camera and under the gun to produce more fur on film . Kiyi is again a sound that should be saved for the right occasion.But then again what do i know .
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: furbearer365 on February 02, 2012, 08:17:18 PM: I want to first start off by saying i know that Foxpro is in the title, but i prefer Wildlife tech. :chuckle:I find it so interesting how different people can call and still get the final result. I wish it wasnt that way, i wish all you needed was a rabbit distress and they would come running but then again that is why it is fun. I absolutely swear by a coyote distress and also pup distress. I have gotten to the point that i cant remember the last time i called a yote without using one of those in the sequence. Want to hear something even more interesting, i have never call anything in using a fawn distress. I go to it every once in a while because i love the sound, but it has never worked, not once. What i would love to do is just tag along with a great caller and just watch. No gun and no call. Just follow beside them for a couple days, sit right next to them, and take it all in.
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: Snopczynski on February 03, 2012, 08:22:38 AM: What call sequences do you guy like to use?
Title: Re: What is a Kiyi? (foxpro)
Post by: seth30 on February 03, 2012, 10:21:03 AM: I always start with a howler, then depending on the food source where I hunt, I will use that animal as a distress.