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Title: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: lokidog on February 07, 2012, 06:08:20 PM: Looking at getting new arrows as my current ones are marginally not stiff enough for my new bow. Any preferences and reasons for them? Thanks.
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: medic6 on February 07, 2012, 06:18:38 PM: 6 of us shoot the st epic and like them. Cabelas had a dozen for 59.99 last week. I cannot justify spending over a 100 bucks on arrows when I get great results with the epics :twocents:
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: Button Nubbs on February 07, 2012, 06:29:32 PM: I loved the epics. Just a fyi the epics were discontinued this year :(
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: lokidog on February 07, 2012, 06:46:01 PM: Quote from: Button Nubbs on February 07, 2012, 06:29:32 PM
I loved the epics. Just a fyi the epics were discontinued this year :(

Really? Everyone still seems to have them.

Cabelas doesn't have the 300 spine that I need.
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: Button Nubbs on February 07, 2012, 08:04:02 PM: Yup. Once stores sell out their backstock that's it.
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: jechicdr on February 07, 2012, 08:55:57 PM: I shot the Beman ICS and did well with them. Switched to the Beman MFX 300's (was down to just a couple of arrows and needed to fill my quiver for hunting season and the MFX were on the shelf at the local sporting goods store) and still shoot well, but now I get better (deeper in the targets) penetration (narrower diameter). I personally don't think there is a big difference in accuracy as long as you have the correct spine matched with appropriately weighted points, no matter what arrow you choose. Whatever you choose, you are likely to stick with it, just because you don't want half the arrows you are shooting for target practice to be a different brand, and you will likely want the same ones for your hunting arrows.
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: D-Rock425 on February 08, 2012, 07:54:15 AM: What arrows are you shooting now.
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: lokidog on February 08, 2012, 08:01:51 AM: Quote from: D-Rock425 on February 08, 2012, 07:54:15 AM
What arrows are you shooting now.

I've been shooting the carbon hunters from cabelas 65/80 with a 340 spine. These worked really well with my old Golden Eagle but are a little light spined for the new Bowtech Invasion. I had them cut as short as they would go to stiffen them for this last season but would like to increase my draw weight over the spring and summer and will need a heavier spined (300) arrow.

Thanks for the input so far.
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: D-Rock425 on February 08, 2012, 11:22:03 AM: Look at the goldtip 7595. Its a good arrow for the money.
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: lokidog on February 08, 2012, 11:41:04 AM: Found a good deal on some Epic shafts, $69 with shipping.

I'll see how they shoot, and if I like them, I'll order some more for future use.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: JLS on February 08, 2012, 11:41:25 AM: Quote from: D-Rock425 on February 08, 2012, 11:22:03 AM
Look at the goldtip 7595. Its a good arrow for the money.

Goldtip 7595s are also a .340 spine. If he's looking for stiffer, he'll have to look at something besides GT.

Lokidog,

What weight broadheads are you shooting that .340 isn't enough? Draw weight?
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: lokidog on February 08, 2012, 12:00:57 PM: Bowtech Invasion, 65lb now but want to try to get to 70. According to Todd's software I'd be better off with a .300 spine at 65 lb and my previous arrows wouldn't be good at 70.
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: D-Rock425 on February 08, 2012, 12:17:55 PM: What's your draw length?
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: JLS on February 08, 2012, 12:34:10 PM: Quote from: lokidog on February 08, 2012, 12:00:57 PM
Bowtech Invasion, 65lb now but want to try to get to 70. According to Todd's software I'd be better off with a .300 spine at 65 lb and my previous arrows wouldn't be good at 70.

It's surprising to me that .340 isn't stiff enough, even with a dual cam bow. I shoot a Mathews Q2 at 65 pounds, with a 125 grain broadhead and 29 inch draw. I've never had tuning issues with Goldtip or Carbon Techs, both at .340 spine.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: lokidog on February 08, 2012, 12:44:26 PM: 29 1/2" draw length. Just know what the shop said and what Todd's software indicated. :dunno:
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: JLS on February 08, 2012, 12:52:46 PM: Being overspined isn't likely to cause you any issues. If it does, add some weight to the front of the arrow with inserts.
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: Button Nubbs on February 08, 2012, 01:23:45 PM: The invasion is fast and with 29 1/2" that's where the .300 is coming from.
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: JLS on February 08, 2012, 01:27:05 PM: 10-4 :tup:
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: et1702 on February 08, 2012, 01:52:08 PM: Sound like you need a 300 spine shaft. I bought some Trophy Ridge Crush 300 shafts after last years season and only paid about $70 bucks/dozen (on Amazon of all places). They are about 11gpi and .0008 straightness. VERY GOOD shaft! They are also small diameter shaft. But, wholly cow, I just noticed that Wally world is selling them this year for $175/dz. Amazon has some for about $110/dz (shafts).
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: kckrawler on February 08, 2012, 02:24:48 PM: I shoot Beman ICS Hunter 300s out of my Alpine Yukon set at 60lbs with a 32" draw and don't have any complaints about them.

I buy them finished with Bohning Blazer Vanes from Riverside Archery for something like $85/dozen, add 100 gr Trophy Taker T Locks and call it done. I personally haven't felt the need to explore other options...makes for a very straight shooting setup. :tup:
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: lokidog on February 08, 2012, 02:44:35 PM: Quote from: Button Nubbs on February 08, 2012, 01:23:45 PM
The invasion is fast and with 29 1/2" that's where the .300 is coming from.

Haven't chronyed it but the software says about 290fps with my carbon hunters at 65 lbs.

If the Eastons shoot well, I'll have to stockpile several dozen since they are being discontinued. At least I know it's coming.
Title: Re: Which arrow? Beman ICS 300 vs Easton ST Epic 300
Post by: bow-n-head on February 08, 2012, 05:21:12 PM: Gold tips are a good arrow for the price. I thought the Easton epic's broke a little to easily. I shoot Carbon Express Max ima hunters. Will try the kevlar ones next. I think if I had to choose something else it would be the Full Metal Jacket's. But they are all expensive. I have 200$ into my last dozen Maxima's, put a 13$ broadhead on each one and it makes you take good shot's :chuckle: