Post by: 7mm ed on February 25, 2012, 03:26:49 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on February 25, 2012, 03:29:52 PM
Post by: 7mm ed on February 25, 2012, 03:33:45 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on February 25, 2012, 03:37:40 PM
i just picked up my fisrt ar15 20 in barrel and i have not shot one before so can a guy run steel case ammo or should i stay with the brass?
I have steel cased ammo for my AK. wouldn't consider it for any other of my firearms.
Post by: muzzlebuck on February 25, 2012, 04:48:09 PM
Post by: dannysdaddy on February 25, 2012, 08:18:33 PM
Post by: marlin on February 25, 2012, 08:26:26 PM
I did buy a box of Herter's .308 from Cabela's, and one of the cases seperated and blew fire out of the ejection port.. Scary. But I never had a problem with steel .223 or 7.62x54r or 7.62x39. Sometimes they will expand and get stuck in your chamber if your gun is too hot or dirty, and you might need a pocket knife for extraction, but thats the price you pay sometimes for cheap ammo.
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 25, 2012, 10:20:02 PM
Post by: FC on February 25, 2012, 11:06:33 PM
I shoot steel-cased ammo through all of my guns, pistol and rifle, I've shot thousands of rounds through multiple guns and have as yet to observe any kind of damage or have any problems except once. So far the only complaint I have run into was with Tula .223 ammo through my AR, it just didn't have enough balls to cycle the action. :twocents: I have used steel-cased 9mm, .40S&W, .223, 7.62x39mm, 8mm Mauser, 7.62x54R and .308 Winchester. For your basic plinking it works just fine, if you want match ammo that is different.
If you figure out the price of a barrel or even a whole gun against what you save over 10,000+ rounds you will probably find out that you could buy a couple of guns with the difference.
Post by: rebal69972 on February 25, 2012, 11:15:14 PM
Post by: Special T on February 25, 2012, 11:42:41 PM
Post by: FC on February 26, 2012, 10:50:26 AM
FC what barrel length is your AR? We ran Tula steel holopoints through my bro inlaws Rem r15 20 in barrel and it worked great on yotes. With a buddy we have used wolf on his and it gummed up the action. I think there may be more varnish on some, and if you heat the gun up by rapid fire it may cause more sticking. :twocents:
Mine has a 24" barrel, the Tula stuff seemed to be accurate enough at the range we were shooting but it wouldn't cycle in my rifle. The Brown Bear that I switched back to immediately IS lacquer coated and functioned flawlessly as ever. So far that Tula was the only thing not to cycle in that rifle, it could just be a bad batch or something.
As far as the varnish thing goes, I've tried to reproduce the gummed up chamber bit and have never managed it. I tried hardest in my AK (that thing gets abused) by getting the hand guard smoking real good and then dropping a lacquer coated round in, set the rifle down and let it cool off. 30 minutes later I picked it back up, stuffed another magazine in it and ran another 30 through it without issue.
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 26, 2012, 11:39:12 AM
Post by: Special T on February 26, 2012, 05:11:04 PM
Post by: FC on February 26, 2012, 11:31:53 PM
FC its not really fair to compare an AK to an AR. Even a medocre range AK like a romainian one has enough slop in it to run anything anytime. :twocents: kinda like the old colt 45.
What I did to it to try and cause it a malfunction isn't really fair to do to any gun. :twocents: It was so hot when I put it down that I single loaded the round into it as I was concerned that it might heat-fire.