Post by: cohoho on March 05, 2012, 06:38:01 PM
Post by: robodad on March 05, 2012, 06:53:08 PM
Post by: huntnphool on March 05, 2012, 07:13:37 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on March 05, 2012, 07:30:51 PM
Post by: robodad on March 05, 2012, 07:48:07 PM
I don't know what I all have, but I have 50+ just do-it molds and a few other brands of molds. Post a pick of what your after and I will see if I have it.
Im pretty sure he is after a Point Wilson Dart or Dungeness Stinger type mold in 7-9oz size! !
Post by: Fowlweather25 on March 05, 2012, 07:55:33 PM
Post by: scottcrb on March 05, 2012, 08:03:25 PM
Post by: cohoho on March 05, 2012, 08:40:24 PM
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Lead is lead. Figure a down rigger ball of 12 pounds (192 oz) ought to be worth about 15-20 - (135-180oz) 9 oz flutter jigs already poured, obviously I would have my own hooks, paint, etc to finish them.. I'm in Kent/Auburn area...
Post by: huntergreg on March 06, 2012, 02:51:27 AM
http://www.do-itmolds.com/flutter-jigs-a-deadly-deep-water-jigging-technique
Post by: cohoho on March 06, 2012, 08:20:28 AM
Exactly what I am looking for...
Post by: huntergreg on March 06, 2012, 12:14:22 PM
http://do-itmolds.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=1_9_335
Post by: cohoho on March 06, 2012, 12:56:11 PM
Post by: robodad on March 06, 2012, 01:01:09 PM
Just ordered a 7 and 9 oz.... Will be here in a couple days. Robo get your stinger hooks ready... Hopefully pouring on Sunday..
Do you want a hand ?
Post by: cohoho on March 06, 2012, 02:16:31 PM
Post by: cohoho on March 06, 2012, 02:47:40 PM
Post by: robodad on March 06, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
Post by: cohoho on March 06, 2012, 05:29:15 PM
Post by: robodad on March 06, 2012, 06:17:02 PM
For banging off the bottom and less chance of hanging up on the rocks and or other stuff on the bottom.
Alrighty then, sounds reasonable, just never seen that before, I'll get you a bunch of them tied up !! How long do they need to be ? and what sized hook ?
Post by: woodman on March 06, 2012, 06:30:26 PM
For banging off the bottom and less chance of hanging up on the rocks and or other stuff on the bottom.
Just curious, do you ever pour the weedless types. I save a lot of gear with them up in the Straights. If for some reason you have a problem getting your mold, I believe that I have the type you are looking for and would loan it to you.
Post by: robodad on March 06, 2012, 06:36:52 PM
For banging off the bottom and less chance of hanging up on the rocks and or other stuff on the bottom.
Just curious, do you ever pour the weedless types. I save a lot of gear with them up in the Straights. If for some reason you have a problem getting your mold, I believe that I have the type you are looking for and would loan it to you.
Do you happen to have a photo of these weedless type's ? I'd be interested in that for sure !!
Post by: woodman on March 07, 2012, 01:56:32 PM
For banging off the bottom and less chance of hanging up on the rocks and or other stuff on the bottom.
Just curious, do you ever pour the weedless types. I save a lot of gear with them up in the Straights. If for some reason you have a problem getting your mold, I believe that I have the type you are looking for and would loan it to you.
Do you happen to have a photo of these weedless type's ? I'd be interested in that for sure !!
I don't have a picture but have plenty of weedless setups for the saltwater. Not sure what area you are in, but I am in the puyallup[ area and would be glad to give you some. Also if you are going to the catfish get together, I can get you some there also.
Post by: robodad on March 07, 2012, 03:19:15 PM
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I don't have a picture but have plenty of weedless setups for the saltwater. Not sure what area you are in, but I am in the puyallup[ area and would be glad to give you some. Also if you are going to the catfish get together, I can get you some there also.
I'm in the Port Angeles area so thats not gonna work, Cohoho is in the Black Diamond area maybe you could hook him up with some and when he comes out here fishin I'll get to try one !! :dunno:
Post by: robodad on March 07, 2012, 08:20:31 PM
For banging off the bottom and less chance of hanging up on the rocks and or other stuff on the bottom.
Got a few done, these are various lengths #50 Dacron with 3/0 Gamakatsu barbless hooks !! How many you want and how long ?
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Post by: robodad on March 08, 2012, 02:45:27 PM
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Post by: cohoho on March 08, 2012, 07:11:45 PM
Post by: woodman on March 09, 2012, 09:52:49 AM
For banging off the bottom and less chance of hanging up on the rocks and or other stuff on the bottom.
Just curious, do you ever pour the weedless types. I save a lot of gear with them up in the Straights. If for some reason you have a problem getting your mold, I believe that I have the type you are looking for and would loan it to you.
Do you happen to have a photo of these weedless type's ? I'd be interested in that for sure !!
robodad, I took some pictures of a couple of molds that I have. The one that shows the actual jig head, I use the heck out of that one. I fish a lot for sea bass, ling cod and other fish up at Sekiu and it saves me a ton of gear along with a lot less frustration by one heck of a lot less snags. It make a huge difference in quality time up there.
Post by: cohoho on March 09, 2012, 10:18:52 AM
Post by: robodad on March 09, 2012, 11:14:01 PM
Might get some use out of the 1 1/2oz and 2oz diamond jigs though if we can figure out how to do nickel plating !!
Post by: woodman on March 10, 2012, 07:27:32 AM
Them look interesting, never seen em with that other thingy on them. In the midwest we used something kinda similar with a piece of wire that went from the eye of the hook to the point similar to a carabiner design sort of looking !!
Might get some use out of the 1 1/2oz and 2oz diamond jigs though if we can figure out how to do nickel plating !!
That "thingy" on them makes them work very well. When people at Sekiu see me use them, they ask me for some. I asked the tackle shop up there why they don't sell them and they said because they like to sell more tackle and these would reduce their sales. They are especially good when I take people fishing that have a problem with casting and wind up in the kelp. That "thingy" is like soft bristles on a hair brush.
Post by: robodad on March 10, 2012, 02:18:02 PM
Them look interesting, never seen em with that other thingy on them. In the midwest we used something kinda similar with a piece of wire that went from the eye of the hook to the point similar to a carabiner design sort of looking !!
Might get some use out of the 1 1/2oz and 2oz diamond jigs though if we can figure out how to do nickel plating !!
That "thingy" on them makes them work very well. When people at Sekiu see me use them, they ask me for some. I asked the tackle shop up there why they don't sell them and they said because they like to sell more tackle and these would reduce their sales. They are especially good when I take people fishing that have a problem with casting and wind up in the kelp. That "thingy" is like soft bristles on a hair brush.
Sweet, sounds like something I could use, i like fishing in the weedy areas but hate catchin the weeds, maybe it would be a good seller here in Port Angeles at Swains, you might ask them, i know the sporting goods guys there and they might find a spot for them? ? Never know! !
Post by: cohoho on March 10, 2012, 05:21:21 PM
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on March 10, 2012, 05:30:15 PM
Joe
Post by: huntergreg on March 10, 2012, 07:30:41 PM
Post by: cohoho on March 10, 2012, 11:10:26 PM
Post by: robodad on March 10, 2012, 11:13:06 PM
Oh trust me, they will not be any thing of beauty.... Can't imagine the Lings thinking- "no do not bite that one it is really ugly".... :chuckle: :chuckle:
The uglier the better is what I say, hell if they hit pipe jigs they will not worry about your paint job !!!
Post by: cohoho on March 14, 2012, 09:44:25 PM
Robo- get your buckets ready buddy....
Post by: huntergreg on March 14, 2012, 10:51:31 PM
45 pounds of lead melted and poured for 100 - 7 ounce, half of them painted- very ugly for sure and look like crap..... Now - I got to do the 9 ounce with another 50 some pounds of lead for another 100 of those once the wires arrive.. Maybe by then I will have the painting technique down.... And then another 100 of the 2 ounce jigs... My lead pile is dwindling quickly... Only got about 200lbs left..... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Robo- get your buckets ready buddy....
Post up a pic. Even if they are ugly :chuckle: I jig for salmon in the columbia and was wondering if putting the hook on the top like you do works better than one on the bottom?
Post by: robodad on March 14, 2012, 10:59:40 PM
45 pounds of lead melted and poured for 100 - 7 ounce, half of them painted- very ugly for sure and look like crap..... Now - I got to do the 9 ounce with another 50 some pounds of lead for another 100 of those once the wires arrive.. Maybe by then I will have the painting technique down.... And then another 100 of the 2 ounce jigs... My lead pile is dwindling quickly... Only got about 200lbs left..... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Robo- get your buckets ready buddy....
Holy Smokes thats a pile of jigs for sure !! Shouldn't run out for several years.
I'm wondering which "buckets" you are referring to though ?? I have lots of buckets and most of them are ready but I'm not too sure what they are ready for ??
P.S. I primed a few jigs and then coated them with vinyl spray paint, looks promising but now I have to wait till the stuff dries for the color coats !!
Post by: robodad on March 15, 2012, 02:56:36 PM
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Post by: cohoho on March 15, 2012, 03:29:43 PM
Post by: huntergreg on March 15, 2012, 05:35:46 PM
Post by: robodad on March 15, 2012, 07:00:46 PM
Look at you, aren't the little Leonardo or Michelangelo? What next a Artistic revision of Mona Lisa on a fishing lure?
If you look real close there is a pic of Jesus on one of those green ones, never know what will come out of one of them rattle cans !! :chuckle:
Post by: cohoho on March 15, 2012, 09:25:28 PM
Post by: robodad on March 15, 2012, 09:30:44 PM
Post by: huntergreg on March 15, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
robodad did you pour your jigs? what kind of paint did you use for your base coat?
Post by: robodad on March 15, 2012, 10:32:06 PM
Looks good cohoho! :tup:
robodad did you pour your jigs? what kind of paint did you use for your base coat?
No I bought them from a guy that was selling them really cheap and they have this silverish paint on them so I just wire wheeled them back to plain lead then started with a bare metal primer, then on some I used a spray vinyl paint in white and on the others i used refrigerator epoxy spray paint, right now they are drying and when they are done I'll clear coat them. I am using a few different combinations to find out which ones will have the toughest most durable finish, once I figure out what works best I'll be painting some for Cohoho !!!
Post by: tmike on March 15, 2012, 10:34:37 PM
Post by: robodad on March 16, 2012, 04:19:12 PM
I highly doubt a Ling Cod gives a rip about how good the paint job is. Nice job both of you guys. :tup:
I know right, I have never met a pickey Ling Cod thats fer sher !!
Thanks I'm still trying to figure out the paint combo but dialing it in soon !!
Post by: tmike on March 16, 2012, 04:34:05 PM
Post by: robodad on March 16, 2012, 05:27:26 PM
Do some 4 1/2 oz and you could jig up a king while you're at it.
Yep, I just bought 50 of them cheap so i'll be trying to figure out the colors I want and which types of paint !!
Post by: tmike on March 16, 2012, 10:34:24 PM
Post by: robodad on March 16, 2012, 11:00:24 PM
I can show you which colors work for me. The ones you have probably would too. Mike is close, they bite the white! My favorite might be tough.
I do have some I painted all white, I have had decent results with that dark green over white but I just used a rattle can to paint them and that's a bit messy, I have picked up some paints for my air brush so I'll be able to be a bit more precise in where the paint goes instead of all over so I'm looking forward to giving them a try, I'm also looking for a top coat that is bullet proof and compatible with the enamel.
I think colors that contrast each other work best, black and white should be a pretty good color combo at least for the deeper fish, and florescence for the shallower areas !!
What color did you have in mind ??
Post by: tmike on March 16, 2012, 11:15:49 PM
Post by: robodad on March 16, 2012, 11:34:10 PM
Gold body with a green line above that and a purple back. Silver eye with black pupil is #1. White body with a red eye is # 2. Basic Point Wilson Darts.
I'll have to see what I can come up with, I know that #2 will be a no brainer but #1 might be a challenge depending on what I can find to do a gold body !!
Post by: tmike on March 17, 2012, 08:38:13 AM
Post by: robodad on March 17, 2012, 11:26:50 AM
That one would be a challenge. When you are out and about look at the Darts and you'll see what I'm talking about. Good luck. If you need a picture let me know.
Yeah a pic would be helpfull that way I don't try to copy the wrong one !!
Post by: tmike on March 17, 2012, 02:37:28 PM
Post by: cohoho on March 17, 2012, 06:20:51 PM
Post by: robodad on March 17, 2012, 06:53:32 PM
Google Point Wilson Dart. It's the Blue/Gold Candlefish, and the other one is Pearl/White. Those are one's I like. The Blue has a purple tint to me. I'll give you one when I get a chance.
Hey Mike them look just fine, I don't see any reason they won't catch fish !! Nice Work !! :tup:
Hey Tom, How do you suppose I get the gold color on them candlefish and how to make it shine ?
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My experience with trying to get a metallic effect with paint turns out to be a bad experience like spray chrome or gold etc... so have you or anyone any ideas how to get it to shine ??
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Post by: huntergreg on March 17, 2012, 08:31:45 PM
Post by: robodad on March 18, 2012, 09:43:03 PM
They look great COHOHO! :tup: robodad, the dryer looks like a great idea! :tup:
Thanks, I was tired of heating my whole shop to dry the paints and stuff and it really works good surprisingly enough !!
How about this Tom, I just have to figure out that top color then clear coat, hopefully it will be close enough !!
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Here is another color I have had good success with !!
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Post by: tmike on March 18, 2012, 09:50:55 PM
Post by: robodad on March 19, 2012, 11:08:41 AM
Those look Great! The best thing is going to be when you see a big king on the end of one. How satisfying will that be? :tup:
Yeah it will be fun forsure, hopefully it will happen knowing my luck !!!
How's this ?
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Should look better after I clear coat it !!
Post by: cohoho on March 19, 2012, 12:15:43 PM
Post by: robodad on March 19, 2012, 09:39:30 PM
Seriously Allen those are excellent.. :tup: :tup:
Thanks Mike !!
How about these ?? They still need to be clear coated and eyes but you get the idea !!
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I was going to send you the first one here Tom but I have to start from square one again :bash:
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Post by: tmike on March 19, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
Post by: robodad on March 19, 2012, 10:12:07 PM
What happened?
Got a call from Pt Wilson Darts and they told me I better not go any further, said it cuts into their profit margin when folks find their color scheme and match it on their own. The guy offered me a job though, said i could do that painting thing all day if I wanted and even get a discount on their supplies but I turned him down said I'm retired and have too much fishin to be doin instead of that workin thingy ya'll do, then he asked where I got all the darts from and I knew then it was over and I had to tell the truth................. speakin of which I'm lyin right now !! None of that happened, I'm just joking !!!
Those jigs I bought had some kind of silver coating on them and the paint I used isn't stickin to em (found out after I dropped it and the paint chipped off !!) so I have to figger out a new method for em but they were lookin good I gotta say !! :IBCOOL:
EDIT: I should clarify that all the other ones are working perfectly and have an ultra hard finish, its just the couple that I painted over that shiny silver stuff that was on them, the others I removed it before I painted them !! :tup:
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Post by: huntergreg on March 21, 2012, 10:57:31 AM
Post by: TheHunt on March 21, 2012, 12:34:40 PM
You are an artist. They look really great.
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Post by: huntergreg on March 22, 2012, 07:43:50 PM
Post by: robodad on March 22, 2012, 07:49:11 PM
Those are jigs?? I saw those over at sportco and couldn't figure out what they were for. Do you have to put anything on them or just use them like a normal jig??
Nope you don't put anything on them, my theory is fish are stupid so they bite em !! :chuckle:
No seriously......Nothing goes on them and you just bang them on the bottom and for some reason fish like them, don't ask me why, maybe someone here has a scientific definition but as for me, fish are stupid !! :dunno:
Post by: cohoho on March 23, 2012, 07:44:51 AM
No seriously......Nothing goes on them and you just bang them on the bottom and for some reason fish like them, don't ask me why, maybe someone here has a scientific definition but as for me, fish are stupid !! :dunno:
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So that makes the people on the boat, when nothing is caught for that day- What???? :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: robodad on March 23, 2012, 07:50:10 AM
Nope you don't put anything on them, my theory is fish are stupid so they bite em !! :chuckle:
No seriously......Nothing goes on them and you just bang them on the bottom and for some reason fish like them, don't ask me why, maybe someone here has a scientific definition but as for me, fish are stupid !! :dunno:
So that makes the people on the boat, when nothing is caught for that day- What???? :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Worn out !!! :chuckle: