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Title: death from above
Post by: cackle on July 29, 2008, 07:46:23 PM
heard this heli rents for 165 an hour in oregon

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Title: Re: death from above
Post by: huntnphool on July 29, 2008, 07:55:39 PM
Thats almost not even fair :chuckle: At the price of fuel right now, $165.00/hr is dirt cheap. What kind of gun is he using, looks like a shotgun but looks to be way to long of a shot for one.
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: scoyoc5 on July 29, 2008, 07:59:57 PM
 :yike:   :bdid:
No way thats right...
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: saylean on July 29, 2008, 08:05:49 PM
they should give the yotes anti aircraft missiles...

Pvt. Joker, "How can you shoot...women and children?!"

Heligunner, "Easy..you just dont lead em as much!"

Full Metal Jacket
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: wf70gonehunting on July 29, 2008, 08:13:55 PM
I want a turn! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: PolarBear on July 29, 2008, 08:19:30 PM
Looks like a kick ass time!!  Sign me up for a half day!!!  I would want the Drowning Pool tunes blasting while I did it!   :IBCOOL: I have a cousin in Copper Center Alaska who use to shoot wolves for the state out of his bush plane.  I wish that I had gone with him before it stopped.
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: 3dsheetmetal on July 29, 2008, 08:34:34 PM
Not good more ammo for the anti's!Some things just shouldn't be recorded. :bdid:
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: andrew_12gauge on July 29, 2008, 08:37:04 PM
hmmm looks like fun cant imagine that being something that is legal though
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: rainshadow1 on July 30, 2008, 05:52:09 AM
Feds do that all the time. USDA Animal Damage Control. Shotguns out the door of the helicopter. Now I see why. Very effective. But I agree, it shouldn't be aired in public.

Didn't know it was done by private individuals.
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on July 30, 2008, 06:17:41 AM
Not good more ammo for the anti's!Some things just shouldn't be recorded. :bdid:

I agree. 

Why are they wearing camo anyway?  Unfortunately it kind of makes them look like hunters... + the music sucked.
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: Sagedawg on July 30, 2008, 06:37:06 AM
 I LOVE to hunt yotes, but I think that is well past the line of being ethical or lawful. I know the govt hunters use that method because its effective, but Im thinking with these a-holes putting this on the web,all they are doing is giving the rest of us a bad name. I see all kinds of laws being broke,unsafe gun handling ,possible tresspassing, etc. Really pisses me off that people show this kind of crap.. >:(


  Sage
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: JoshT on July 30, 2008, 06:43:13 AM
Screw those guys...
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on July 30, 2008, 07:56:00 AM
I LOVE to hunt yotes, but I think that is well past the line of being ethical or lawful. I know the govt hunters use that method because its effective, but Im thinking with these a-holes putting this on the web,all they are doing is giving the rest of us a bad name. I see all kinds of laws being broke,unsafe gun handling ,possible tresspassing, etc. Really pisses me off that people show this kind of crap.. >:(


  Sage


 Now why do they have to be A-holes?  because they are doing something you don't agree with?  It says at the end it was done with all the permits and legally,  If it wasn't I don't think they would have put it up.  Really its not much different than driving around and blasting coyotes or blasting prarie dogs.   They just can't get away as easy using this method :chuckle: :chuckle:  

Looks like it would be a blast. :guns: and if its legal why not.

ummm, because of all the reasons listed.
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: Head-shot on July 30, 2008, 08:53:23 AM
Some of you bitch so much about how people always want to control things and say what is right and what isn't, and then you become the person you hate and start doing it yourself. :dunno:  If you think it's so wrong join peta.
I agree with miles....Stop pissin and moanin about it. To some of us, MYSELF included, it looks like it would be fun to do once or twice. After that it would get boring, not to mention expensive. However, if you were a sheep rancher in Wyoming, Montana, or S. Dakota where its really open and there are tons of them *censored*s eating your flock, that may be a very good way to protect your property, then is that wrong? :twocents:
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: JoshT on July 30, 2008, 09:14:40 AM
Some of you bitch so much about how people always want to control things and say what is right and what isn't, and then you become the person you hate and start doing it yourself. :dunno:  If you think it's so wrong join peta.

Didn't say it was wrong... just stupid.  If you think it's so cool... build a huge fence and join the Texas Trophy Hunters.
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: bucklucky on July 30, 2008, 09:32:04 AM
I have a freind that is a outfitter in North Eastern oregon . I was invited to do this helicopter thing but couldnt get the time to do it. They have a severe coyote problem on the ranch, 30,000deeded acres and another 60,000 leased acres . That is how they help control the yote population. They killed over 300 coyotes in 1 day  and still have problems. They were charging 50 bucks a person to help pay for the chopper.
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: Lowedog on July 30, 2008, 09:46:32 AM
About as sporting as shooting a bear out tree or over bait.

I'd do it in a heartbeat though given the chance.  Looks like fun!

-Lowedog
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: JoshT on July 30, 2008, 12:41:44 PM
Probablly just about as sporting as shooting a whole bunch of house cats huh?? 

There's a difference between sporting and management, about the same difference between ferel and house... but hey, I wouldn't expect those of short mind to understand either of them. Have fun in your helicopter... I hope it has an ejection seat!
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: JoshT on July 30, 2008, 01:32:51 PM
So you're saying you don't understand... that's ok, at least you don't have to use up all your crayons when you type on the computer.
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: bucklucky on July 30, 2008, 01:46:00 PM

 :chuckle:

Now, Now boys ;)
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: PolarBear on July 30, 2008, 05:45:17 PM
Uh-oh, is the MM mentality leeching over to this site?
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: Wea300mag on July 30, 2008, 06:08:44 PM
That is interesting but I would not do it. If it's within the laws I have no problem with others doing it.
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: mkcj on July 30, 2008, 06:48:08 PM
want to give the anti's more fuel here ya go just don't bitch when they take everything away. The non hunting public does not know any better so it's the group with the most $ that will win just like with the baiting and hound laws. Does the game dept want to change them back yeah but if they do they commit political suicide so were stuck with the little by little changes we get
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: bucklucky on July 30, 2008, 07:09:33 PM
 :tree1:
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: 3dsheetmetal on July 30, 2008, 07:20:12 PM
What you have to remember is how the general public views such actions.The majority are non hunters and they already took away hound hunting and bear baiting.And the antis get a video like that and they can manipulate it to there advantage.So until hunters are the majority of the voting population we have to be careful on how we present our sport cause once you lose part of it you can be sure you'll never get it back.
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: bucklucky on July 30, 2008, 07:36:46 PM
+1
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: rainshadow1 on July 30, 2008, 07:37:52 PM
Well said, 3D.

Not only do I not oppose it, it's flat out NECESSARY in some areas in the country. It's not hunting. It's ADC. Don't critisize it for not being sporting... it's not supposed to be sporting. It's suppose to reduce Coyote numbers in an area.

But it shouldn't be in the public eye. The huggers of bunnies have a tendency to not understand wildlife management.... and they vote!
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 30, 2008, 07:47:38 PM
I'm just mad those targets weren't Idaho wolves...
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: sivart33 on July 30, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
quote taken for oregons state hunting reg.
"
Q. Can I use walkie-talkies or cell
phones while hunting?
A. Yes, however it is illegal to communicate
information on the location of game mammals
from an aircraft.   "

so why would you be albe to hunt from one?


and  here found more that iw as looking for:

"   No Person Shall:
Hunt any wildlife from a motor-propelled
vehicle. Exceptions: 1) A qualified
disabled hunter may obtain an “Oregon
Disabilities Hunting and Fishing Permit”
to hunt from a motor-propelled vehicle
except while the vehicle is in motion
or on any public Rd or hwy, or within
Cooperative Travel Management Areas.
2) Landowners and their agents can
shoot predatory animals from motorized
vehicles on land they own or lawfully
occupy.
Communicate information on the location
of game mam mals from an aircraft.
Hunt within 8 hours after having been
trans ported by he li cop ter or fixed-wing
air craft to any point other than an established
airport adequate for fixed-wing
aircraft.
Shoot at pronghorn antelope from a
point within 50 yards of a motor-propelled
vehicle, including air craft.
Exception: A qualified disabled hunter
may obtain an “Oregon Disabilities
Hunting and Fishing Permit” to hunt
from a motor vehicle except while the
vehicle is in motion or on any public Rd
or hwy, or within Cooperative Travel
Management Areas.
Hunt or harass animals from snowmobile,
ATV, or passenger vehicles.
Operate a snowmobile or ATV while
carrying a loaded firearm or a bow unless
all arrows are in a quiver. Note: A









loaded firearm is one having live ammunition
in a magazine, clip, or chamber
(violation of ORS 821.240 is a Class B
traffic violation).
Cast an artificial light from a motor vehicle
while in possession of a weapon;
or cast an artificial light upon a game
mammal, predatory animal, or livestock
from within 500 feet of a motor vehicle
while in pos ses sion of a weapon.
Exception: Landowners or their agents
hunting predatory animals on land they
own or lawfully occupy.   :
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: sivart33 on July 30, 2008, 08:01:08 PM
so my thoughs are that its unfair, wht is wht sport in that?..... would be fun ya but the sport in it would be hitting a moving target while your moving.

also got around it cause its a preditory animal on private land.
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: huntnphool on July 30, 2008, 08:05:30 PM
I'm just mad those targets weren't Idaho wolves...

 :yeah: X2
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: demontang on July 30, 2008, 08:30:34 PM
I agree it should be where johnQ can see it. Are agency has been fight with the anti's over aerial predator control for a long time. Its one of the most successful ways to keep coyote numbers down on big ranches. We have averaged over 100yotes a day at some places :o but it does cut down on the ranchers loss during the year which help keep meat prices down. :twocents:
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: Bofire on July 31, 2008, 07:18:33 AM
All over the country there are ADC control hunts, not just for coyotes, lots of deer are culled or controlled. Lots shot at night in city limits with silenced or surpressed rifles. There is a company that makes special rifles for this use. Recently there was a large green belt area in a large eastern city near New York. they had about 100 times the amount of deer that the area could support. They put in a bunch of real high tree stands so they could shoot down at the ground, killed over 250 deer in two nights.
this is not sport hunting and is not only allowed by the Govt. it is promoted.
Carl
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: sisu on August 03, 2008, 11:34:51 AM
they should give the yotes anti aircraft missiles...

Pvt. Joker, "How can you shoot...women and children?!"

Heligunner, "Easy..you just dont lead em as much!"

Full Metal Jacket
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: death from above
Post by: sisu on August 03, 2008, 11:43:22 AM
All over the country there are ADC control hunts, not just for coyotes, lots of deer are culled or controlled. Lots shot at night in city limits with silenced or suppressed rifles. There is a company that makes special rifles for this use. Recently there was a large green belt area in a large eastern city near New York. they had about 100 times the amount of deer that the area could support. They put in a bunch of real high tree stands so they could shoot down at the ground, killed over 250 deer in two nights.
this is not sport hunting and is not only allowed by the Govt. it is promoted.
Carl
I have a teaching buddy in Alaska that does work like this for the Feds. You would be amazed what is done for wildlife control.
The Russians back in the 1800s planted lots of the outlying islands with different fox species, red, silver. These islands are also breeding rounds for geese, ducks etc. so the feds brought in Chuck, his wife and several other professionals. They trapped and killed fox on these islands for three months before leaving each island they set and left over 1000 traps to nail any fox they missed.
Downtown Anchorage has a big pigeon problem, so again Chuck and a small team were brought in with 1200 fps air rifles and silenced 22s to shoot them, bag them and be out out the roosting areas before anyone woke up(this was done in the month of March back in 1990s).  Anchorage PD would steer any foot traffic away from these control areas so the bunny and tree huggers wouldn't get alerted.
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