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Big Game Hunting => Bear Hunting => Topic started by: rebal69972 on March 28, 2012, 04:59:58 PM

Title: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on March 28, 2012, 04:59:58 PM: I drew a tag and got my pirmit in the mail today should I be getting anything alse from wdfg. I did call wiarhouser and the lady I talked to wasn't very helpful basically she said all there land would be open but she wasn't sure she beat around the bush and didn't give any answers. Was wondering if anyone new or had any advice
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: Eli346 on March 28, 2012, 05:24:29 PM: We drew it last year and didn't get the maps until about a week after the permit. The area's limited but they can be found. We didn't spend a lot of time down there so we ate tag soup but that's OK as that's why they call it hunting. What seemed a little odd to me is that most of the sign that we ran into was not in the areas we could actually hunt. I saw more turkey, deer, and elk but the bear eluded us. I just wish they would open up Capitol Forest again as we have a ton of bear up there.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: grousetracker on March 28, 2012, 06:47:10 PM: i have been drawn for lincoln the last 3 years and have yet had a map sent to me, just go to the wdfw website and get it. the area is not the whole lincoln area but still holds bear. goodluck and maybe i will see you there.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: Eli346 on March 29, 2012, 05:32:00 PM: Grousetracker,
You're right. I've got the Capitol Forest on the brain as that's what they did; sent out a map after the permit was sent. There's a website for the Lincoln tag. Thanx for setting me straight!
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: RClare1223 on March 29, 2012, 05:38:09 PM: what is the web site?
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on March 31, 2012, 07:47:42 PM: I can't seem to be able to find the map :bash:
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Post by: bearmanric on March 31, 2012, 08:09:54 PM: Sunbirds. Rick
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on April 09, 2012, 10:47:40 PM: wdfg still says map forthcoming anyone know another place to get it or has already got the map
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on April 09, 2012, 10:53:53 PM: I sent them an email telling them they need to get there sheet together!!!
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on April 09, 2012, 11:07:38 PM: with less than a week to go i wish they would get something to gather
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on April 09, 2012, 11:11:57 PM: That's what I told them some of us would actually like to kill bears not just put in for a permit just cause.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: RClare1223 on April 10, 2012, 10:00:47 AM: I have talked to weyerhauser and wdfw and niether of them will give me a staight answer.julie farmer who is in charge of bear damage for weyerhauser has told me whatever the access hotline says for access is what will be open.when i asked the game dept about that they said i have got farther with weyerhauser than they have.i went scouting down there sunday and didnt see any bear sign.they have down alot of thinning down there and just made it so you cant even walk through the woods.im not to excited about this hunt at all.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on April 10, 2012, 12:19:53 PM: you got farther with weyehauser then i did. i got the run around when i thalked to them fom what ive read i really dont expect to see many bears in lincoln till the first part af may
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on April 10, 2012, 11:37:09 PM: wanted to let you all know the maps are up :tup:
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: bobcat on April 10, 2012, 11:40:58 PM: Do you have a link?
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on April 10, 2012, 11:47:56 PM: http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/bear_cougar/education/blackbear_ed.php
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: bobcat on April 10, 2012, 11:53:44 PM: Thanks, but I see they only let you look at the map if your WILD ID number is one that was drawn for the spring bear permit.

So I can't look at the map. :bash:
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 11, 2012, 12:36:03 AM: Man those ak bears sure get big! Those are a couple pretty good videos as well. They use the same ideas that I use to be able to tell a boar from a sow. On the bigger bears the face really tells what they are. The muzzle is a big part of that if it looks like a brick them 99% chance its a boar if it loos tapered and pointed 99% chance it is a sow. I have only seen a couple of big sows that looked close to being a boar. The younger bears are a lot harder to tell. Body structure is better for looking at younger bears. How tall they are at the front shoulder helps a lot. Big bears always look like bull dogs and walk like them and well.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: Ducks2Roses on April 11, 2012, 09:57:48 AM: I attached the pdf document that was made available. I'm happy it finally came because now I can at least begin scouting the area as I've never hunted here before. :)
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: Ducks2Roses on April 11, 2012, 10:03:39 AM: I should also state the website stated that the areas that are marked as closed on the map, is only to vehicles. You are able to hunt the red areas, you just need to walk in.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on April 11, 2012, 10:20:09 AM: Quote from: Ducks2Roses on April 11, 2012, 10:03:39 AM
I should also state the website stated that the areas that are marked as closed on the map, is only to vehicles. You are able to hunt the red areas, you just need to walk in.

i thought the red area was closed (no access) :dunno: but im used to hunting on base and where its red you damn sure stay out of
the red dots are where the roads are closed but you can walk in past them. do have this right ?
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: Ducks2Roses on April 11, 2012, 10:48:36 AM: Quote from: rebal69972 on April 11, 2012, 10:20:09 AM
Quote from: Ducks2Roses on April 11, 2012, 10:03:39 AM
I should also state the website stated that the areas that are marked as closed on the map, is only to vehicles. You are able to hunt the red areas, you just need to walk in.

i thought the red area was closed (no access) :dunno: but im used to hunting on base and where its red you damn sure stay out of
the red dots are where the roads are closed but you can walk in past them. do have this right ?

I don't know what the correct answer is, I'm new to the area. All I can say is what I read from the link: http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/bear_cougar/education/blackbear_ed.php

The following is a direct cut and paste from that website: Lincoln [PDF] – Hunters should consider the closed areas as closed to motorized access at all times; Weyer haeuser is logging in those closed areas. However, hunters are allowed to walk-in to the closed areas.

If anyone knows for sure, I would love to know.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on April 11, 2012, 10:54:07 AM: The majority of weyco property is under the "dot" system. At each main entry point is a sign with a dot... If red= Closed to motorized public access. Non motorized access allowed.

Also... active logging areas are closed as well. ( no access to areas in vicinity of active operation)
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: bobcat on April 11, 2012, 06:17:18 PM: Quote from: bearbaito6 on April 11, 2012, 06:13:19 PM
You can only hunt the green area, not the red even walk in.

That's the way I read it too, it's pretty clear. Those must be the areas they are actively logging. Looks like there is plenty of area open to hunting. However I still don't understand why state land isn't included in this hunt.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: fish_hunter on April 13, 2012, 06:41:48 AM: I also drew this tag. Anyone know if camping is allowed in the hunting area, I was planning on trying to spend a couple days down there.

Thanks
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: bobcat on April 13, 2012, 08:05:51 AM: No camping allowed on Weyerhaeuser, although every year I see people doing it. :dunno:

There is DNR land in the area you could camp on, if you have a Discover pass. Look for the L3000 road off Lincoln Creek Road.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: fish_hunter on April 13, 2012, 08:30:49 AM: Quote from: bobcat on April 13, 2012, 08:05:51 AM
No camping allowed on Weyerhaeuser, although every year I see people doing it. :dunno:

There is DNR land in the area you could camp on, if you have a Discover pass. Look for the L3000 road off Lincoln Creek Road.

Thanks! I'll check that out.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: RClare1223 on April 14, 2012, 06:46:30 PM: there is camping on the pe ell tree farm you just have to go get the permit.also if you read what the game dept says about the closed areas they are walk in only this year.they used last years map again for this year.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on April 15, 2012, 09:16:03 PM: I went out this morning didn't see anyone or any bears. I did find a few old pills and a few new stumps. Still pretty slow. There where a few deer moving 1 doe had twins that couldn't have been more then a day old and a bevar pond full of nutes so I guess it was a good day
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 15, 2012, 10:23:11 PM: This is one I found when I was drawn, but he managed to outsmart me...
In my spot there was a sow with a 2 year old cub, and this guy, but after hunting all spring, :dunno: could not even afford to apply this year... :'(
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on April 18, 2012, 04:01:00 PM: Don't worry ill be more then happy to find him for you stiknstring lol.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 18, 2012, 04:22:53 PM: I can find him, just wasn't drawn this year, August cannot get here soon enough...
But when will you be hunting in area ? , I know several good spots.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: BullMagnet76 on April 18, 2012, 05:08:16 PM: Great Pic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 18, 2012, 05:36:59 PM: because I am not "hunting" this spring, I set out a bait (bird feeder) in the spot, let me see if I can load this...
I am 6'4" and I hung it as high as I could reach, wish the picture would have come out better, and this is not the large boar I call "Shoulders" either.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: fish_hunter on April 18, 2012, 05:42:04 PM: I am skipping out of work and headed down there tomorrow afternoon for the evening hunt, spend the night and hunt all day Friday. I have never hunted that area before. There are 5 separate areas shaded on the Lincoln.pdf, anyone have suggestions on where to start? I was hoping that Weyerhaeuser would send me an email saying where recent bear damage is, but no such luck yet.

Thanks
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on April 19, 2012, 12:28:07 AM: I drew for spring bear and have been up there a couple times for deer but not in the areas they have open. I know what you mean about can't wait for August!! And be sure to look for the bird seed lol ;)
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on April 19, 2012, 12:40:45 AM: By the way nice pictures...
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 19, 2012, 12:51:07 AM: Both are dandy bears!!!!
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 19, 2012, 01:27:21 AM: I do not know that much about bears (yet) but my little spot seems to me to be a favorite area for a sow, mostly due to my first sighting of a bear in area was a sow and cub.
There is also a tree in there that would be about 12 feet tall, and is 3-4 inches thick...it has been rubbed and bitten and bent down from some action that I can only guess is used as some sort of scent marker.
not fresh this year, but due to its appearance I am keeping an eye on it, as I suspect that if this sow goes into heat she gets "all frisky" with it.
:dunno:
I think the home range of the sow and boar overlap in this area, and she had the cub with her the last 3 years, I am thinking the one standing is the cub, now 4.
But as I said, I do not know that much about bears, really only started studying them 3 years ago. but I am learning... :dunno:
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on April 19, 2012, 02:07:06 AM: Yeah I also started hunting and learning about bears the past 3 to 4 years. I've have always bought a bear tag but that was just in case I happened to cross paths with one but these past few years I've been focusing more and more on bears.This was the first year I put in for spring bear and got drawn for Lincoln. Little upset about how late the state decided to give out the maps this year and how little land it looks to be on the map, but I'm going to hunt it hard in the next couple weeks and see what I can see. Hopefully its good and Ill put in for it again next year.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on April 19, 2012, 07:14:03 AM: Those are 2 good looking bears.
I'm like many others just starting to learn about bears, this is my second year. I was in there last weekend and there's a pretty good amount of land to hunt. I will be going back on Friday and tring a different part of the area
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 19, 2012, 08:34:23 PM: good hunting off the 550, look at google earth to see the large hidden swamps :twocents:
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on April 19, 2012, 08:39:53 PM: Now all the lurkers and their moms will be hunting the 550 lol
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 19, 2012, 08:44:18 PM: main road through area, they already are. :twocents: but few get out and "hunt", they just drive ...
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on April 19, 2012, 08:55:30 PM: Yeah I got what your saying... need to put on my big boy boots and hike around a lot used to doing that anyways!
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on April 19, 2012, 09:19:29 PM: I talked to an old timer last weekend that said there where some real big bears in the area he said u just have to get out of the truck. Jckillshot what do u have planed for this weekend
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on April 19, 2012, 09:22:09 PM: This weekend absolutely nothing
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on April 19, 2012, 09:24:18 PM: Pm sent
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: fish_hunter on April 20, 2012, 06:37:07 PM: I'll be down there all day Sunday. Gonna try the swamps off the 550 :tup: driving a white F350 super cab shortbed. :hello:
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on April 20, 2012, 06:55:29 PM: Ill be there in a black GMC Sierra quad cab w a black and orange fletched arrow on my antenna.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: fish_hunter on April 22, 2012, 08:21:29 PM: Well, I know there's at least one bear awake in the Lincoln unit! After hiking and driving around the southwest portion of the unit, I came face to face with about a 150 lb bear at about 10 yds. I was hiking down an old logging road while he was climbing up. The road was filled with blow downs and we both were climbing over these when we saw each other. He took off into the reprod and I had no time for a shot. I chased after him into the thick reprod for about 30 yds then rethought my decision to do that and backed out. It was thick.
I didn't see any scat or peeled trees and I drove all over that portion of the unit. I hiked down a lot of the little spur roads and tried some varmint calls in the open areas. I had pretty much given up on seeing anything today thinking it was still too early when I saw the bear. He caught me off guard :bash:
Hopefully I'll get a chance to head back down there next week.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on April 22, 2012, 08:25:07 PM: Man that sucks I was hoping someone would have bagged one today!!
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: fish_hunter on April 22, 2012, 08:48:01 PM: JCkillshot,
Did you make it down there today? See anything?
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Post by: JCKILLSHOT on April 22, 2012, 08:59:12 PM: No I didn't head out there today I should have though cause it was a beautiful day. I'm think I might head down there tomorrow since its still supposed to be nice.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: fish_hunter on April 22, 2012, 09:34:05 PM: Yeah, it was hot today!

Good luck tomorrow.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on April 22, 2012, 09:36:40 PM: Ill need it I think I'm just going to drive around and get familiar since I haven't been out there yet this year.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on April 23, 2012, 07:11:02 AM: How did you guys do this weekend I spent the weekend off the 6500 roads i found a few stumps tore up but never saw anything. There was 1 takin out late Friday I saw it in the back of a truck
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: fish_hunter on April 23, 2012, 11:38:55 AM: I saw one bear, but no sign, scat, or damaged trees. I spent most of my time down off the 550, 554, 610 roads which are in the southwest section. I took a short hike up the B-1000 line in the North section off of Garrad Creek rd and did'nt see any sign in there either. Wheres the 6500 road at? Can't find that on the map.

I heard a couple of ATVs where I was, are those allowed on the Weyerhauser property (as long as the roads open)?
There are so many blowdowns on many of the logging roads that I couldnt get my truck passed, but easier with a bike or quad.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: rebal69972 on April 23, 2012, 03:14:14 PM: I was up in the north west corner of of harp road. The blow downs are every where and really bad most of the off roads and some of the main roads are closed because of it
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: bobcat on April 23, 2012, 04:56:21 PM: Quote from: fish_hunter on April 23, 2012, 11:38:55 AM
I heard a couple of ATVs where I was, are those allowed on the Weyerhauser property (as long as the roads open)?
There are so many blowdowns on many of the logging roads that I couldnt get my truck passed, but easier with a bike or quad.

Only street legal vehicles are allowed on Weyerhaeuser. That doesn't mean you won't see them out there though. Usually the locals that just ride from their house.
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: fish_hunter on April 27, 2012, 09:30:02 PM: I'll be out tomorrow off of the 550 roads. Hopefully I'll get my bear! Saw one last weeekend but didn't get a shot. I'll be looking for him again..

Driving a white f350 with fishing pole antennae :hello:
Title: Re: Lincoln spring bear
Post by: fish_hunter on April 28, 2012, 08:21:55 PM: Didn't see any sign today :dunno: