Post by: Bone_Collector on March 28, 2012, 09:35:21 PM
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Post by: jackelope on March 28, 2012, 09:36:36 PM
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Post by: Miles on March 28, 2012, 09:38:55 PM
Post by: Bone_Collector on March 28, 2012, 09:39:27 PM
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Post by: bobcat on March 28, 2012, 09:41:04 PM
I'd be more upset about it if it were my buddie's lying to me, complete strangers I would expect it.
Course if I were going to lie, I'd be saying the opposite (like Miles).
Post by: sled on March 28, 2012, 09:45:13 PM
Post by: huntnnw on March 28, 2012, 10:18:38 PM
Post by: jaymark6655 on March 28, 2012, 10:27:27 PM
Does it really matter how many fish some random guy caught.
Only time I hate the stories is *censored* like, "oh yeah there's no deer in here, just one buck and everybody knows where he's at" :yike: really and he's still alive and that doe with two fawns that I just saw weren't really deer, but some kind of hybrid wolf!?
Post by: Buckslaya on March 28, 2012, 10:29:03 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 28, 2012, 10:32:19 PM
Post by: bearpaw on March 28, 2012, 10:33:27 PM
There is some real fish stories out there! I will tell most people I have caught a few and never say my real numbers. Fish and bears seem to be the most crazy stories and weights :bash:
especially at the gas station.... :chuckle:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 28, 2012, 10:39:44 PM
Post by: sirmissalot on March 28, 2012, 10:39:53 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on March 29, 2012, 07:08:49 AM
I'm not sure why you would get all bent up about this. Call him a cracker and keep it movin...
Post by: rasbo on March 29, 2012, 07:15:01 AM
Post by: Russ McDonald on March 29, 2012, 07:16:13 AM
:chuckle: I like to mess with people as well. Someone will see blood on one of my rigs and ask what we got. I will tell them a 5 point. 4 tits and a tail :chuckle: Some will ask about fish as well when I pack them out of a hole. They will say, hey what did you catch them with I say a net :chuckle: Or what did you use for bait I will tell them not to tell anyone one else and they get all excited until I tell them a magnet for steelheads :chuckle:and after saying that do you also say heres you sign. :tup: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: boneaddict on March 29, 2012, 07:27:43 AM
Post by: robodad on March 29, 2012, 07:32:46 AM
I try to keep it as honest as possible. Lieing annoys me
:yeah: I don't know what folks try to accomplish by lying, I usually give out vague information but NEVER lie about it !! :rolleyes:
Post by: BLUEBULLS on March 29, 2012, 07:33:26 AM
Is it OK to blatantly lie to people about how many fish you are catching? Than try and pass off 1 fish as multiple? I dont think so but I am starting to see it more and more with social network sites. Your thought on this.
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It is acceptable to send cell phone pics of the same fish to your buddies that couldn't go and tell them it was multiple fish :chuckle:
it's even acceptable to send pictures from work and act like you're fishing.
Post by: Bone_Collector on March 29, 2012, 07:49:22 AM
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Post by: Alpine Mojo on March 29, 2012, 08:12:14 AM
People always over estimate weights, and exaggerate how many they caught...I hardy ever can keep track of how many fish I caught
exactly :chuckle:
Post by: bowtech721 on March 29, 2012, 11:01:09 AM
Post by: Antlershed on March 29, 2012, 11:08:14 AM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on March 29, 2012, 11:09:35 AM
I feel where your coming from bone collector... im not a guide by anymeans but have been around it quite a bit and worked for a couple here and there and i can tell ya one thing... fishing guides are the biggest group of liars as a whole that i know. especially amongst each other
There are the select few that are totally honest. They tend to be the better fisherman as well.
Post by: washingtonmuley on March 29, 2012, 11:26:02 AM
bear weights always bother me,they are all 400 lbs.
Post by: Bone_Collector on March 29, 2012, 11:40:38 AM
I dont know maybe I am way off base but I feel that if your honest with your clients and everyone else about the fishing you are going to gain peoples respect more so than just telling them how good you are!
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Post by: buckman202 on March 29, 2012, 12:18:50 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 29, 2012, 12:35:58 PM
I try to keep it as honest as possible. Lieing annoys me:yeah:
I really don't have a lot of time to dedicate to feed one's ego based lying.
I personally think that lying is direct result of the competitive nature of today's society. Whatever....... :rolleyes:
Post by: Hunterman on March 29, 2012, 07:31:35 PM
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: Bigshooter on March 30, 2012, 05:46:26 PM
I always say "didn't catch a damn one" even if I limited out. :chuckle:
:yeah:
Post by: jeepster on March 31, 2012, 01:35:41 AM
if i am on the river, there are regular locals like myself, and then there are.....well.... people who we dont want on "our" stretch of the river....
we put up no tresspassing signs, tell people to fish where there are the most snags (and tell them thats where the fish hide)..... we try to make it look like the river isnt worth fishing.... that way, its just a small handfull of regulars who dont poop in the bushes, leave trash everywhere, get drunk by 9am, bring thier dumb buddies and over-fish and crowd people out of the holes.... we even tell people if they dont have permission to be on "our" stretch of the river, the game warden/cops will get em..............
basically, we try to keep "our" stretch of the river "Locals Only"
if im on the salt, or on the lake, i am pretty honnest, i will give out some of my semi-secret rigs, if i see a strugling kid, or somebody i just feel bad for, i will hook him up with some gear and good tips....
if you are a respectful fisherman, and easy to get along with i will be honnest and help you out... otherwise... get out of my hole
Post by: Miles on March 31, 2012, 01:41:55 AM
we put up no tresspassing signs, tell people to fish where there are the most snags (and tell them thats where the fish hide)..... we try to make it look like the river isnt worth fishing.... that way, its just a small handfull of regulars who dont poop in the bushes, leave trash everywhere, get drunk by 9am, bring thier dumb buddies and over-fish and crowd people out of the holes.... we even tell people if they dont have permission to be on "our" stretch of the river, the game warden/cops will get em..............
Do you put up no tresspass signs on public land or land that is not yours?
Post by: jeepster on March 31, 2012, 02:21:25 AM
Post by: Miles on March 31, 2012, 03:56:35 AM
its complicated
Not really, it's a pretty simple question. Are you posting land that you do not own?
Post by: dscubame on March 31, 2012, 07:27:59 AM
And as far as padding stats.... I fish where there are no fish / hunt where there is no game and sometimes get lucky.
Post by: boneaddict on March 31, 2012, 07:37:16 AM
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its complicated
and you wonder why people ignore no tresspassing signs. I see it all the time in the Valley on land that is public.
Post by: cohoho on March 31, 2012, 07:57:10 AM
Post by: Shed Stud on March 31, 2012, 08:14:37 AM
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Post by: Limhangerslayer on March 31, 2012, 08:54:13 AM
Post by: BigGoonTuna on March 31, 2012, 10:00:09 AM
that kind of behavior is up there with poaching in my book.
the "locals only" places i fish ARE private, posted land. fortunately if i show up with a smile and good attitude they're usually more than happy to let me fish there.
Post by: Ironhead on March 31, 2012, 10:42:26 AM
Me: How are you guys doing ?
Him: We got 13
Me: 13? That's a pretty good day. ( I new this was a fabrication, we were 100 yards below the launch at Big Eddy)
Him: We were slaying them.
Me: Lets see your big fish?
Him: We didn't get any up to the boat.
Me: Where I come from, that's 0 not 13!
Post by: robodad on March 31, 2012, 10:49:34 AM
Hey jeepster what river and where did you put those signs so I can walk past them and when I'm done I well rip them down and give them back to you :twocents:
Make sure you take a BIG OLE POOP on em first !! :bash:
Not too many words available to describe that kind of behavior.........Unreal !!
Post by: TheHunt on March 31, 2012, 01:31:27 PM
Post by: jeepster on March 31, 2012, 03:01:43 PM
public access via county dike onto private property
the farmers have threatened to shut down ALL access to the river regardless of county dike or not due to people trashing out the place, getting drunk by sunrise and fighting, driving through the farm fields to get to the river, in general, people just havent given 2 $#!^s about the land... when you have piles of garbage left in the bushes, people crapping in the cornfields, huge groups of people obviously trespassing on the other side of the river.... well the people who know the land owners kind of took charge to keep the river open to fishing and tried to turn things around so the farmer wouldnt say "sorry guys, find a new spot"
if you show up and wanna fish, and not be a moron, leave your beer cans, and cigarette boxes on the ground, and are respectful and act like a responsible decent person, then there wont be an issue
its not like we are trying to be dicks and not allow anybody into our spots, it may have sounded that way (was late when i typed it) but it really has gotten to the point where we were on kind of our 2nd and final warning about everybody getting booted off the river for the season because the landowners were sick of all the BS they had to put up with
do you blame us locals? if you dont believe this, walk into holiday sports and ask about the politics/drama/bs about fishing the samish river!
ok ok ok so this has gotten out of hand, it was about bsing fish stats to your buddies.... sorry guys didnt mean to cause an uproar
Post by: TheHunt on April 01, 2012, 08:28:57 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on April 01, 2012, 11:02:24 PM
I returned your pm the other day hunt, not sure if you got it, my phone was actin a lil wierd.
Post by: jeepster on April 01, 2012, 11:08:29 PM
I have been invited up there to fish for kings two times and have never taken them up on it. They even have access for me some place on the river. Is it worth the weekend to go up there an fish? Or do you have to know when the fish are in jso it will be action packed fishing?
one day this past september, from daybreak till about 930, i landed 13 kings and 2 silvers, not counting how many hits i had.... if you are there on the right day, you will catch more fish in a few hours than most people catch all season.... the fishin on the samish can be so good, it doesnt make owning a boat worth it.... yeah, there is "public access".... it can be comparable to fishing in alaska.
when they are there, the fishing is insane... best fishing river in all of washington
Post by: jeepster on April 01, 2012, 11:16:03 PM
The samish it totally worth it if your a snagger. :chuckle:
I returned your pm the other day hunt, not sure if you got it, my phone was actin a lil wierd.
snag as many as you want... a 40lbs salmon hooked in the side still fights like a 40lbs salmon hooked in the mouth... either way, in a super small river like the samish.... you get called a hero if you can land it! if you are against snagging, toss it back!!! i caught plenty hooked in the mouth... 1/2 a pink steelhead worm on a 4/0 hook will land you plenty of chums and silvers, and a mini lime green corkie and a strand of yarn still gets plenty of kings. i guess its cuz i fished every day of september, and most of october and averaged 5 fish a day.... i got pretty selective on what i kept and what got released... somehow i still managed to put about 100lbs of king in the freezer
Post by: remington300mag on April 02, 2012, 02:36:53 PM
Hey Jeepster......might want to read up on the regs before you go posting about your 100 pounds of Kings in the freezer!!! LMAOThe samish it totally worth it if your a snagger. :chuckle:
I returned your pm the other day hunt, not sure if you got it, my phone was actin a lil wierd.
snag as many as you want... a 40lbs salmon hooked in the side still fights like a 40lbs salmon hooked in the mouth... either way, in a super small river like the samish.... you get called a hero if you can land it! if you are against snagging, toss it back!!! i caught plenty hooked in the mouth... 1/2 a pink steelhead worm on a 4/0 hook will land you plenty of chums and silvers, and a mini lime green corkie and a strand of yarn still gets plenty of kings. i guess its cuz i fished every day of september, and most of october and averaged 5 fish a day.... i got pretty selective on what i kept and what got released... somehow i still managed to put about 100lbs of king in the freezer
"Possession limit - 2 daily limits in fresh form. An additional 40 pounds of SALMON may be
possessed in frozen or processed form"
Post by: Antlershed on April 02, 2012, 03:06:16 PM
So your little group of "fishermen" thinks it is cool to snag 40lb kings, yet you put up signs to keep the "trashy fishermen" out? That makes a lot of sense :rolleyes:The samish it totally worth it if your a snagger. :chuckle:
I returned your pm the other day hunt, not sure if you got it, my phone was actin a lil wierd.
snag as many as you want... a 40lbs salmon hooked in the side still fights like a 40lbs salmon hooked in the mouth... either way, in a super small river like the samish.... you get called a hero if you can land it! if you are against snagging, toss it back!!! i caught plenty hooked in the mouth... 1/2 a pink steelhead worm on a 4/0 hook will land you plenty of chums and silvers, and a mini lime green corkie and a strand of yarn still gets plenty of kings. i guess its cuz i fished every day of september, and most of october and averaged 5 fish a day.... i got pretty selective on what i kept and what got released... somehow i still managed to put about 100lbs of king in the freezer
Post by: Bone_Collector on April 02, 2012, 04:33:13 PM
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Post by: backyard bucks on April 02, 2012, 06:50:08 PM
Post by: Ripper on April 02, 2012, 07:00:58 PM
I know that most fisherman exaggerate to a certain extent, it's the flat out liars that bug the chit out of me. I am a stickler for the truth myself, so I usually just tell it like it is, or say nothing. I always tell my friends the truth. About the biggest lie you'll hear me say is if a fish is between 10 and 11 lbs on the scale I'll say 11. I always round up.
Post by: Button Nubbs on April 03, 2012, 02:12:49 PM
Post by: Limhangerslayer on April 04, 2012, 04:20:50 PM
Post by: huntnnw on April 05, 2012, 04:24:07 AM
Hey Jeepster......might want to read up on the regs before you go posting about your 100 pounds of Kings in the freezer!!! LMAOThe samish it totally worth it if your a snagger. :chuckle:
I returned your pm the other day hunt, not sure if you got it, my phone was actin a lil wierd.
snag as many as you want... a 40lbs salmon hooked in the side still fights like a 40lbs salmon hooked in the mouth... either way, in a super small river like the samish.... you get called a hero if you can land it! if you are against snagging, toss it back!!! i caught plenty hooked in the mouth... 1/2 a pink steelhead worm on a 4/0 hook will land you plenty of chums and silvers, and a mini lime green corkie and a strand of yarn still gets plenty of kings. i guess its cuz i fished every day of september, and most of october and averaged 5 fish a day.... i got pretty selective on what i kept and what got released... somehow i still managed to put about 100lbs of king in the freezer
"Possession limit - 2 daily limits in fresh form. An additional 40 pounds of SALMON may be
possessed in frozen or processed form"
I am confused about the above law and how many lbs of salmon one can possess in your freezer? i fish ID alot and I can retain far more 40lbs of salmon per catch card and WA
Post by: Bone_Collector on April 05, 2012, 09:07:27 AM
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Post by: TommyH on April 05, 2012, 09:58:51 AM
If its public then a "locale" or anyone has just as much right to fish there in "our hole". :bash:
Post by: GreyWolf on April 05, 2012, 10:34:34 AM
Post by: Bone_Collector on April 05, 2012, 11:51:29 AM
As far as putting up no trespassing signs on public land that is just plain wrong. I grew up on the west side and know all to well how a river can be ruined by people. Just for example the Skok used to be a great place to go and catch kings until one day (years ago) the Tacoma News tribune put in that it was red hot now cars and trucks line the roads and people trash the river and the banks. I have seen countless threads on other sites trashing the locals for being low class trash that dont know how to use indoor plumbing. The people who frequent the river now are slobs to say the least. The last few times I have fished it there is more trash along the river bank than ever before and the amount of people is some spots one would think they were on the Russian river in Alaska snagging sockeye.
When I was growing up we used to go out and maybe see 1 or 2 other people out fishing and they were locals the river banks were a lot cleaner and there was a lot more space to fish it was a better time but we all have to face the facts that there is less room for everyone to fish and just because you grew up fishing a river does not make it your river! We were all taught to share in kindergarten and if everyone can remember that than we will all be able to enjoy the outdoors!
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