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Title: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: cem3434 on April 01, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
I received something from WDFW stating that only a portion of the tree farm is open for the spring hunt. I am wondering if anybody knows what the boundaries are or if there are maps that show the spring bear permit limits?

I have never hunted in the tree farm, so I am trying to do a little scouting before the season so I am not going completely blind. Any insight would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: deleted BGS on April 01, 2012, 01:10:33 PM
you have a pass right?
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: waoutdoorsman on April 01, 2012, 01:19:14 PM
I got a similar letter that says my hunt area was the south portion excluding eatonville properties or something along that line.

It's my understanding that when you call to get your temporary hancock pass for the spring bear season they will provide the info/maps of the area.

I'll be calling later this week to get my temp pass
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: scottfrick on April 01, 2012, 01:24:28 PM
I received something from WDFW stating that only a portion of the tree farm is open for the spring hunt. I am wondering if anybody knows what the boundaries are or if there are maps that show the spring bear permit limits?

I have never hunted in the tree farm, so I am trying to do a little scouting before the season so I am not going completely blind. Any insight would be appreciated.
Not sure of what the boundaries are going to be, just make sure you dont go into the buckley portion of the hancock pass because that i believe is not open for spring bear. Good luck and hope too see some pictures here in a few months.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: cem3434 on April 01, 2012, 02:18:11 PM
you have a pass right?

I actually bought a yearly pass for the first time this year. I figured with the rising cost of fuel, i would try hunting closer to home this year.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: rasbo on April 01, 2012, 02:22:05 PM
more than likely its the kapowsin side only open....
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: cem3434 on April 01, 2012, 02:24:46 PM
I got a similar letter that says my hunt area was the south portion excluding eatonville properties or something along that line.

It's my understanding that when you call to get your temporary hancock pass for the spring bear season they will provide the info/maps of the area.

I'll be calling later this week to get my temp pass

Im going to call and see if they can send me a map since I already have a yearly pass.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: rasbo on April 01, 2012, 02:31:08 PM
I got a similar letter that says my hunt area was the south portion excluding eatonville properties or something along that line.

It's my understanding that when you call to get your temporary hancock pass for the spring bear season they will provide the info/maps of the area.

I'll be calling later this week to get my temp pass

Im going to call and see if they can send me a map since I already have a yearly pass.
your map has what ya need on it,south side of puyallup river,if eatonville isnt open to it dont cross through the gates.....claudia Im sure is being bombed with calls,sure wish the spring bear for kapowsin was only for season permit holders.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: cem3434 on April 01, 2012, 02:50:49 PM
Thanks Rasbo, i will check it out.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on April 01, 2012, 08:32:14 PM
It is my understanding that central, or the bridge gate as some call it is closed for spring bear as well its too bad since that side has way more promising bear country.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: grundy53 on April 01, 2012, 08:54:47 PM
It is my understanding that central, or the bridge gate as some call it is closed for spring bear as well its too bad since that side has way more promising bear country.
yeah it would be nice if that area was open...
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: woodman on April 01, 2012, 08:58:49 PM
It is my understanding that central, or the bridge gate as some call it is closed for spring bear as well its too bad since that side has way more promising bear country.
yeah it would be nice if that area was open...

They generally have a sign at the gate there that it is closed to spring bear hunting.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: grundy53 on April 01, 2012, 09:01:51 PM
Yeah it just sucks.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: funkster on April 02, 2012, 08:57:33 AM
I pulled the tag last year. I think the hunt area will differ slightly from year to year. The hunt area last year was for kapowsin only. They did open up all the gates,even the escapement gates.
It was a fun hunt and I ate tag soup. It seem to "heat" up closer to the end of the season so don't panic. Keep your eye out for a few nice sheds too.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: rasbo on April 02, 2012, 01:42:31 PM
south side has more bears,better area also..puyallup river is the boundary the hunt is south side only,no eatonville..had a long talk with clyde today,,you newbies watch your speed and pay attention to the rules..No slack for breaking them thar rules...
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: grundy53 on April 02, 2012, 01:57:50 PM
south side has more bears,better area also..puyallup river is the boundary the hunt is south side only,no eatonville..had a long talk with clyde today,,you newbies watch your speed and pay attention to the rules..No slack for breaking them thar rules...

I talked to Clyde a few weeks ago. Seems like a really good guy. No reason to speed or break the rules anyway.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: funkster on April 02, 2012, 03:35:10 PM
My dad pulled Kapowsin this year, I am hoping to hit a few spots that we did last year. I was just getting to know the lay of the land then the season ended. I had a few bears pretty vocal right at dusk.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: 75johndeere on April 02, 2012, 04:43:10 PM
I hope they keep the escapement gates closed

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Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: rasbo on April 02, 2012, 05:58:44 PM
they will be open only to spring bear hunters
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: cem3434 on April 02, 2012, 06:01:12 PM
I hope they keep the escapement gates closed

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What are the escapement gates?
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: grundy53 on April 02, 2012, 06:04:49 PM
I hope they keep the escapement gates closed

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What are the escapement gates?
the walk in areas within the tree farm.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: cem3434 on April 02, 2012, 06:05:37 PM
south side has more bears,better area also..puyallup river is the boundary the hunt is south side only,no eatonville..had a long talk with clyde today,,you newbies watch your speed and pay attention to the rules..No slack for breaking them thar rules...

I had a White River Permit for elk hunting a couple of years ago and never seen a Hancock employee the entire time I was scouting or hunting.  It seems like they watch over the Kapowsin farm a lot closer than their other properties from the stories I have heard.  Regardless I follow the rules, so I'm not worried about meeting Clyde. Besides, I bet that he knows a lot of good areas to scout and hunt since he spends so much time in there.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: rasbo on April 02, 2012, 07:10:44 PM
clyde is a good guy,but he has to deal with a lot of jerks,,he is running radar today,said he saw a small cougar just inside the kapowsin gate walking the mainline..pet owners on the edges might start having some problems..
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: grundy53 on April 02, 2012, 07:16:40 PM
clyde is a good guy,but he has to deal with a lot of jerks,,he is running radar today,said he saw a small cougar just inside the kapowsin gate walking the mainline..pet owners on the edges might start having some problems..

Yeah he B.S'ed with me for quite awhile. He was really nice. He told me about some of the jerks. I don't blame him for being strict, it's his job.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: funkster on April 02, 2012, 08:07:26 PM
Here is a peel from last year to get the "juices flowing"
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: nailbender on April 03, 2012, 12:23:24 PM

So if you don't pay for the yearly pass and get drawn for spring bear, your able to go in there for bear only? And is there a fee for these folks?

on another note, Rasbo, it seems you've some insight to the area. I would'nt mind meeting up with you sometime and maybe share some info.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: rasbo on April 03, 2012, 01:43:39 PM

So if you don't pay for the yearly pass and get drawn for spring bear, your able to go in there for bear only? And is there a fee for these folks?

yes they will pay for access while spring bear is going,bear permit holders can go drive in all the walk in areas to hunt,,annual holders must still walk into those areas for any other reason.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: cem3434 on April 03, 2012, 05:45:15 PM

So if you don't pay for the yearly pass and get drawn for spring bear, your able to go in there for bear only? And is there a fee for these folks?

yes they will pay for access while spring bear is going,bear permit holders can go drive in all the walk in areas to hunt,,annual holders must still walk into those areas for any other reason.

Do annual permit holders have to walk in to the walk in areas if we have a spring bear permit?
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: rasbo on April 03, 2012, 05:53:08 PM

So if you don't pay for the yearly pass and get drawn for spring bear, your able to go in there for bear only? And is there a fee for these folks?

yes they will pay for access while spring bear is going,bear permit holders can go drive in all the walk in areas to hunt,,annual holders must still walk into those areas for any other reason.

Do annual permit holders have to walk in to the walk in areas if we have a spring bear permit?
no if you have the kapowsin permit for spring bear you can drive in.But make sure the bear permit is where clyde can see it,when you leave your truck...
double check my comments just incase things have changed...
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: cem3434 on April 03, 2012, 07:39:43 PM
Doesn't WDFW require that I have the permit on my person when hunting? Maybe I should just bump into Clyde and talk to him to make sure I dont get my permit taken away.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: rasbo on April 03, 2012, 07:42:39 PM
Doesn't WDFW require that I have the permit on my person when hunting? Maybe I should just bump into Clyde and talk to him to make sure I dont get my permit taken away.
they should give you a permit that goes on your dash or window
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: funkster on April 03, 2012, 09:13:06 PM
I hunted over a dozen times last year for spring bear and didn't run into clyde once. Claudia said he is a really good guy and is willing to help out with the spring bear tag holders.

 I love the idea of the "escapement areas" and  really wish they would leave them closed. I was hot on foot to fresh track and scat last year when another spring bear hunter pulls and asked" have your seen any bears" :bash:
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on April 03, 2012, 09:46:45 PM
I haven't recieved anything regarding another permit for my spring bear hunt should I be contacting Claudia? I have the annual pass, and was drawn for spring bear.  I have been going to the tree farm for years I just haven't drawn a spring bear tag before so this is new to me.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on April 04, 2012, 05:05:05 PM
I haven't recieved anything regarding another permit for my spring bear hunt should I be contacting Claudia? I have the annual pass, and was drawn for spring bear.  I have been going to the tree farm for years I just haven't drawn a spring bear tag before so this is new to me.

Bump, does anyone know?
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: scottfrick on April 04, 2012, 05:53:44 PM
I haven't recieved anything regarding another permit for my spring bear hunt should I be contacting Claudia? I have the annual pass, and was drawn for spring bear.  I have been going to the tree farm for years I just haven't drawn a spring bear tag before so this is new to me.

Bump, does anyone know?
My cousin who was also drawn for spring bear for hancock just recieved his paper work a couple days ago. Should be any day now that you will be getting yours i would think :twocents:
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: Igottanewknee on April 06, 2012, 07:01:39 AM
I got drawn for spring bear this year but haven't been out there for about fifteen years. Hope it goes well. Can you bring someone in with you? I had total knee replacement last year and have a disabled permit. Walking is not a problem, but hiking over uneven terrain not so good. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: Graham_Hunter on April 06, 2012, 07:33:36 AM
I got drawn for spring bear this year but haven't been out there for about fifteen years. Hope it goes well. Can you bring someone in with you? I had total knee replacement last year and have a disabled permit. Walking is not a problem, but hiking over uneven terrain not so good. Any ideas?

I drew Kapowsin as well and had the same question.  Their annual permit rules state pretty clearly that it is only the permit holder and their immediate family who get access.  Does anyone know if the limited spring bear permit would allow a guest?
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: woodman on April 06, 2012, 07:47:16 AM
I got drawn for spring bear this year but haven't been out there for about fifteen years. Hope it goes well. Can you bring someone in with you? I had total knee replacement last year and have a disabled permit. Walking is not a problem, but hiking over uneven terrain not so good. Any ideas?

I drew Kapowsin as well and had the same question.  Their annual permit rules state pretty clearly that it is only the permit holder and their immediate family who get access.  Does anyone know if the limited spring bear permit would allow a guest?

I have had that permit in the past and yes they let me bring in one person with me. That person could not hunt though, just ride along and help if I got something down.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: woodman on April 06, 2012, 07:49:07 AM
I haven't recieved anything regarding another permit for my spring bear hunt should I be contacting Claudia? I have the annual pass, and was drawn for spring bear.  I have been going to the tree farm for years I just haven't drawn a spring bear tag before so this is new to me.

Bump, does anyone know?

When I got mine, everything was sent to me by mail.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: funkster on April 06, 2012, 08:39:27 AM
I got drawn for spring bear this year but haven't been out there for about fifteen years. Hope it goes well. Can you bring someone in with you? I had total knee replacement last year and have a disabled permit. Walking is not a problem, but hiking over uneven terrain not so good. Any ideas?

Last year I was able to purchase a passenger pass for my dad for $100.

I urge anyone with questions to call Claudia at the main office 1-800-782-1493. She is very helpful. If she doesn't answer leave a message and she will call back quickly.

I wish that the annual pass would let you choose who you want to hunt with. It allows wife and children under 18 but I don't hunt with them. If they would let you choose 1or 2 people that that would accompany you and only you, I would purchase a pass and a camping pass every year.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: 75johndeere on April 09, 2012, 10:31:28 AM
Has anyone received a packet from the tree farm i still haven't seen one and we start hunting Sunday  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: cem3434 on April 09, 2012, 03:27:55 PM
Has anyone received a packet from the tree farm i still haven't seen one and we start hunting Sunday  :dunno:

I got a letter last week stating the permits are available.  Call and talk to Claudia.  She can sell you a permit over the phone and mail it out UPS, so you get it before the weekend.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: 75johndeere on April 09, 2012, 03:37:21 PM
Ok I have the annual permit but thought they sent out a packet for the tag holders oh well

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Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: cem3434 on April 09, 2012, 05:59:43 PM
Ok I have the annual permit but thought they sent out a packet for the tag holders oh well

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No Claudia said that there wasnt a map or packet if you are an annual permit holder.  You cant hunt beyond the bridge gate, Eatonville or Wilkeson areas of the tree farm for spring bear.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: cem3434 on April 18, 2012, 05:50:53 PM
So how did all of my fellow permit holders do in Kapowsin in the first couple of days since the seasoned opened? 

I probably wont make it out for a couple of more weeks due to to prior obligations, but I hope some Yogi's are hitting the ground for you guys.  My buddy went out on Sunday and said that he only heard of one bear being taken, but it was about an 80 lb yearling. He went back in Monday and hit some of his usual spots and said there was very little sign in the damage areas that he has hunted in the past.  Hopefully everyone else is having better luck.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: grundy53 on April 18, 2012, 05:54:15 PM
haven't made it out yet. Planning on hitting it this week end.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on April 18, 2012, 05:55:45 PM
I went up friday, and did some looking around there really doesn't seem to be much activity.  I will be hitting it much harder in a few weeks when they seem to be a little more active.  I checked my other property near hood canal Sunday as well there was nothing for bear sign, that usually changes in June.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: 75johndeere on April 18, 2012, 07:18:28 PM
I was up Sunday and Monday didn't see anything new as far as bear sign saw alot of deer and elk though but that is usual for this time of year up there

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Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: fillthefreezer on April 19, 2012, 08:15:38 AM
was in on tues, no fresh sign for me. hit some heavy shade snow still too....
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: cem3434 on April 28, 2012, 09:18:31 PM
I was in there today found a couple new peels and the freshest scat I have seen this year. Has anyone else seen any fresh sign? Its still early and I'm guessing it will heat up in 2 to 3 Weeks.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: waoutdoorsman on April 28, 2012, 10:02:28 PM
I was up there yesterday, found lots of old peels and scat, but I got into one area though that had scat so fresh I smelled it before I saw it, goin back in there Monday and give calling a try.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on May 05, 2012, 09:07:49 PM
We spent about 7 hrs up there today we seen some scattered scat, but nothing as far as new peels.  Still abit slow it seems.
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: christopheri on May 05, 2012, 09:51:13 PM
Sounds like there still waiting for the coffee to brew. :chuckle: :dunno:
Title: Re: Kapowsin spring bear boundary question
Post by: tallnskinny on May 21, 2012, 04:58:32 PM
Was up there Thursday - Sunday and saw no bears.  I did find one fresh peel and two fresh piles of scat - on consecutive days - 30 yards from each other...otherwise not much else exciting.
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