Post by: TeacherMan on April 08, 2012, 11:01:59 AM
Post by: coriantonk on April 08, 2012, 02:50:03 PM
Post by: Special T on April 08, 2012, 02:56:38 PM
Post by: oldleclercrd on April 08, 2012, 03:22:29 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on April 08, 2012, 03:24:47 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on April 08, 2012, 06:09:22 PM
Post by: runamuk on April 08, 2012, 06:33:50 PM
Have her look at some online see if any appeal to her aesthetics I know I know pretty doesnt equal good but lifes too short to shoot an ugly gun, and besides we are girls sometimes we need eye appeal .... I just dont think you can wrong with the 22 for getting her hooked on shooting.....
oh the s&w version that thing jammed bad...I know of 2 bought brand new and both suffered jams....werent mine so didnt try different ammos just was witness to the jamming.
Post by: Huntbear on April 08, 2012, 06:44:03 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on April 08, 2012, 06:51:00 PM
Ruger or Browning for just accuracy and plinking, and durability. this is not a carry gun correct???
mostly plinking but with that said both.
Post by: runamuk on April 08, 2012, 07:01:17 PM
I have stuffed my ruger in my carhart inside pocket, not perfect but worked, also have carried in my purse....its got a 4 5/8 barrel so not tiny...that sig mosquito is tiney pocket gun and I think those walthers are similar..... however I shoot my ruger well enough and can operate it blindfolded I would not hesitate to carry it when I feel I need to. In case you cant tell I love my 22 and no one will convince me ever that a 22 cant kill .... I dont like 45acp so wouldnt ever shoot one enough to be confident.... wish you were down here I'd let her try mine out......Ruger or Browning for just accuracy and plinking, and durability. this is not a carry gun correct???
mostly plinking but with that said both.
Post by: 400out on April 08, 2012, 07:22:58 PM
:hello: :hello:I have stuffed my ruger in my carhart inside pocket, not perfect but worked, also have carried in my purse....its got a 4 5/8 barrel so not tiny...that sig mosquito is tiney pocket gun and I think those walthers are similar..... however I shoot my ruger well enough and can operate it blindfolded I would not hesitate to carry it when I feel I need to. In case you cant tell I love my 22 and no one will convince me ever that a 22 cant kill .... I dont like 45acp so wouldnt ever shoot one enough to be confident.... wish you were down here I'd let her try mine out......Ruger or Browning for just accuracy and plinking, and durability. this is not a carry gun correct???
mostly plinking but with that said both.
Post by: dscubame on April 08, 2012, 07:50:46 PM
Post by: Huntbear on April 08, 2012, 07:58:18 PM
Some one has to say it..... A .22 is a really really bad idea for self defense and will give a false sense of security.
Bet you would not stand in front of one and take a round or two...
Post by: TeacherMan on April 08, 2012, 08:02:07 PM
Some one has to say it..... A .22 is a really really bad idea for self defense and will give a false sense of security.
I've killed 1,200 cows with them with one shot to the head. If a person feels confident with it that's what's going to show in a defensive situation and make an attacker think twice. I wouldn't take one in the chest.
Post by: dscubame on April 08, 2012, 08:07:41 PM
Some one has to say it..... A .22 is a really really bad idea for self defense and will give a false sense of security.
Bet you would not stand in front of one and take a round or two...
You bet right!!
Post by: Huntbear on April 08, 2012, 08:08:44 PM
Some one has to say it..... A .22 is a really really bad idea for self defense and will give a false sense of security.
I've killed 1,200 cows with them with one shot to the head. If a person feels confident with it that's what's going to show in a defensive situation and make an attacker think twice. I wouldn't take one in the chest.
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
It is all about being comfortable and capable. I would rather someone shoot a .308 than a .338 for elk, if the .308 is the gun they shoot all the time..
I would rather a lady shoot what they can shoot comfortably and accurately than something they are afraid of, and a woman will practice all day long with a .22. They will stop at 20 rounds if the recoil or the bang scares them.... and we all know.. practice makes perfect. :tup:
Post by: dscubame on April 08, 2012, 08:14:12 PM
Post by: Huntbear on April 08, 2012, 08:27:12 PM
Yep..... But still a bad idea and hard to argue otherwise but have at it.
Maybe by you.. but I have seen runamuk and other women shoot a .22. They are damn good. Could double tap 2 to the brain cavity with no problem... Oh. you say it may not penetrate??? WHO CARES! Bet they do not get up for a long long time, and may never think a coherent thought again... Since when did women have to carry a damn magnum pistol or shoot +P loads to protect themselves????? she shoots someone 10 times with a lowly .22 they are not gonna be in a real hurry to mess with her.
I will always take accuracy and knowledge of a gun over horsepower any day. ESPECIALLY for women! Obviously you have not taught many women to shoot. I have taught over 25 women, from never having touched a gun to shooting the bullseye out at 20 yards with a 22 pistol. I would prefer them to shoot that over a .25 acp or a .32 acp... any day of the week.
Example... I will take my .44 mag into big bear country, and be comfortable with that... Do not need a .460 or .454 or 500. Why? I shoot my 44 mag a lot, and that is what I am comfortable with, and know I can make a bear decide that eating me is not a good option.
Post by: jrebel on April 08, 2012, 08:35:21 PM
Post by: BullMagnet76 on April 08, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
Post by: Huntbear on April 08, 2012, 08:39:22 PM
Post by: dscubame on April 08, 2012, 08:43:20 PM
Yep..... But still a bad idea and hard to argue otherwise but have at it.
Maybe by you.. but I have seen runamuk and other women shoot a .22. They are damn good. Could double tap 2 to the brain cavity with no problem... Oh. you say it may not penetrate??? WHO CARES! Bet they do not get up for a long long time, and may never think a coherent thought again... Since when did women have to carry a damn magnum pistol or shoot +P loads to protect themselves????? she shoots someone 10 times with a lowly .22 they are not gonna be in a real hurry to mess with her.
I will always take accuracy and knowledge of a gun over horsepower any day. ESPECIALLY for women! Obviously you have not taught many women to shoot. I have taught over 25 women, from never having touched a gun to shooting the bullseye out at 20 yards with a 22 pistol. I would prefer them to shoot that over a .25 acp or a .32 acp... any day of the week.
Example... I will take my .44 mag into big bear country, and be comfortable with that... Do not need a .460 or .454 or 500. Why? I shoot my 44 mag a lot, and that is what I am comfortable with, and know I can make a bear decide that eating me is not a good option.
Good for you huntbear. I will not personally attack you as i do not know you. Dan.
Post by: Huntbear on April 08, 2012, 08:57:35 PM
Yep..... But still a bad idea and hard to argue otherwise but have at it.
Maybe by you.. but I have seen runamuk and other women shoot a .22. They are damn good. Could double tap 2 to the brain cavity with no problem... Oh. you say it may not penetrate??? WHO CARES! Bet they do not get up for a long long time, and may never think a coherent thought again... Since when did women have to carry a damn magnum pistol or shoot +P loads to protect themselves????? she shoots someone 10 times with a lowly .22 they are not gonna be in a real hurry to mess with her.
I will always take accuracy and knowledge of a gun over horsepower any day. ESPECIALLY for women! Obviously you have not taught many women to shoot. I have taught over 25 women, from never having touched a gun to shooting the bullseye out at 20 yards with a 22 pistol. I would prefer them to shoot that over a .25 acp or a .32 acp... any day of the week.
Example... I will take my .44 mag into big bear country, and be comfortable with that... Do not need a .460 or .454 or 500. Why? I shoot my 44 mag a lot, and that is what I am comfortable with, and know I can make a bear decide that eating me is not a good option.
Good for you huntbear. I will not personally attack you as i do not know you. Dan.
Trained gunsmith, NRA instructor specializing in training women to shoot for over 5 years 97 - 2002, been a hunter and shooter since I was 8. Shot defensive combat matches for 3 years... Shot competitive trap for 8 years. Now, you know me, as far as firearms go..
Post by: dscubame on April 08, 2012, 09:01:36 PM
Post by: Huntbear on April 08, 2012, 09:04:48 PM
Your beliefs do not make you a GOOD PERSON your behavior does.
Why thank you.. I think I am a good person too... and all my friends and family do as well... :tup:
Post by: dscubame on April 08, 2012, 09:06:14 PM
Post by: Caseyd on April 08, 2012, 09:09:03 PM
Great little gun and fun to shoot. Mines is not to picky on ammo, only times I've had cycling problems is after a couple hundred rounds. Prefer to run mini mags but also shoot a lot of federal block ammo.
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on April 08, 2012, 09:55:30 PM
Post by: coriantonk on April 08, 2012, 10:29:03 PM
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on April 08, 2012, 10:36:28 PM
As a rule we shoot the cheapest .22 ammo I can find, most often it is loose pack Remington's. Three weeks ago I was at the range with 3 P22s. About 500 rounds fired and no failures to function. I am always surprised to hear people talk down on these pistols. My wife LOVES hers and I would not hesitate to buy another. :twocents:
I don't think anyone is talking them down it is just the experience of most people including mysefl who own these gun that they jam like crazy with cheap 22LR fired through them. I love mine, I just understand I need to spend a few pennies more for each round to get some that cycle properly.
Post by: coriantonk on April 08, 2012, 10:50:23 PM
As a rule we shoot the cheapest .22 ammo I can find, most often it is loose pack Remington's. Three weeks ago I was at the range with 3 P22s. About 500 rounds fired and no failures to function. I am always surprised to hear people talk down on these pistols. My wife LOVES hers and I would not hesitate to buy another. :twocents:
I don't think anyone is talking them down it is just the experience of most people including mysefl who own these gun that they jam like crazy with cheap 22LR fired through them. I love mine, I just understand I need to spend a few pennies more for each round to get some that cycle properly.
I am sorry you got a bad one. I just have a hard time understanding how so many people report this problem but all the P22s I have shot cycled the cheap stuff just fine. Maybe I am just really lucky.
Post by: Special T on April 09, 2012, 06:39:16 AM
Post by: chuck270 on April 10, 2012, 08:52:48 AM
I personaly can not wait to get my hands on the Kel Tec 30rd. 22 mag pistol. I can't figure out why no one didn't think of that before now...
Remember the more she shoots, the better she shoots and the nicer you you will have to be to her.
Post by: Snopczynski on April 12, 2012, 08:16:52 AM
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Post by: TeacherMan on April 12, 2012, 08:22:33 PM
I think the P22 would be fine for your wife. It happens to be my wifes and all her freinds favorite pistol to shoot. We have ran 500+ rounds of the cheap Rem. ammo through it in one day and it cycled every round. With that said my Ruger Mark II stuggled on the same ammo that day but never did before and hasn't sense and there could be any number of factors as to why... Our solar sytems planetary alignment, Moon phase, relative humidity, dirty fingers, dirty gun, weak mag spring, or etc. etc. etc... So, ammo quality matters for most firearms and for personal defense it is paramount to use the highest quality ammo possible.
I personaly can not wait to get my hands on the Kel Tec 30rd. 22 mag pistol. I can't figure out why no one didn't think of that before now...
Remember the more she shoots, the better she shoots and the nicer you you will have to be to her.
Post by: runamuk on April 12, 2012, 08:25:30 PM
one of the other pistols I've been looking at is a .22 mag with a 2" barrel (revolver)I think the P22 would be fine for your wife. It happens to be my wifes and all her freinds favorite pistol to shoot. We have ran 500+ rounds of the cheap Rem. ammo through it in one day and it cycled every round. With that said my Ruger Mark II stuggled on the same ammo that day but never did before and hasn't sense and there could be any number of factors as to why... Our solar sytems planetary alignment, Moon phase, relative humidity, dirty fingers, dirty gun, weak mag spring, or etc. etc. etc... So, ammo quality matters for most firearms and for personal defense it is paramount to use the highest quality ammo possible.
I personaly can not wait to get my hands on the Kel Tec 30rd. 22 mag pistol. I can't figure out why no one didn't think of that before now...
Remember the more she shoots, the better she shoots and the nicer you you will have to be to her.
Post by: JuryRig on April 13, 2012, 03:04:26 PM
Post by: Rgrady35 on April 13, 2012, 04:02:10 PM