Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 10, 2012, 06:08:15 PM
Bob
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 10, 2012, 07:50:09 PM
For rangefinder, maybe a Lieca can be found for the $400 price, bushnells should be. The only complaint I have had with a lieca is the one lens (that receives the laser occasionally fogs), the viewing portion remain clear though.
For rifle, I guess you don't want to have to get closer with the .30-30, but you can extend the range with Leverevolution ammo. For a new rifle, it is hard to beat starting with a 30-06 or 270 or 280 or 7mm mag or 300 win mag.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 10, 2012, 08:31:05 PM
Post by: ELKBURGER on April 11, 2012, 06:18:26 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 11, 2012, 06:25:08 AM
Post by: coachcw on April 11, 2012, 06:53:16 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 11, 2012, 07:01:05 AM
Post by: rsarkks on April 11, 2012, 08:57:34 AM
A good pair of 12x50 binos along with a compact hand held rangefinder. You should be able to find great quality in each around $400
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on April 12, 2012, 08:03:13 AM
I think 300 win mag is in the near future
:yeah:
Good for anything you would ever want to hunt around here, okay, just about anywhere, has good range and plenty of power, lots of factory bullet choices, and probably as easy to find as .30/06, .270, etc, at places that sell ammo if you don't reload. That can't always be said for the speciality short and ultra mags and calibers.
I have it in a Remington 700 with a Leupold 3x9 and was able to put the entire package together, new in the box for less than $700.00.
Only thing I don't like is the plastic stock, feels too flimsly and cheap. Tried stiffening it up with some fiberglass reinforcement in the forearm area, but didn't help alot. So I found a walnut stock on ebay and am waiting for it to get here to swap them out, then will be good to go.
I would say head down to a well-stocked gun/sporting goods store and put some up to your shoulder and see how they feel. Lots of choices out there. Good luck and looking forward to some pics of your set-up and the results of your hunt!
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 12, 2012, 09:52:21 AM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on April 12, 2012, 10:14:14 AM
Give this a try.....
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 12, 2012, 11:47:33 AM
Post by: coachcw on April 12, 2012, 01:01:06 PM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 12, 2012, 01:19:51 PM
Bob
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 12, 2012, 01:42:07 PM
The difference in shooting between 400 and 600 yds is big (not just 200 yds :chuckle:). It really does take either some hidden natural talent or a lot of practice to play out that far not just equipment. I'd look into getting into a LR shooting class or talk to some LR guys. In addition to accurate rangefinging at those distances, you'll also need to be able to measure the angle of your shot, maybe even a hand held wind wizard.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 12, 2012, 01:51:51 PM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 12, 2012, 01:58:31 PM
That's from wiki I don't think the 6.5 x284 he spoke of was that.
Post by: bobcat on April 12, 2012, 02:08:55 PM
Sweet ! I was just thinking 10 x 50 cause my binocs are 10 x50 ??? :dunno: but I guess a 4 x 12 is what I need lol. I want drop comp marks does the Nikon offer that in 4x12? And is the 6.5 x 284 the feild of view on the 5x20? What's it mean ? Thanks again I'm gonna have it dialed out to six hundred way before season!
Bob
Your binoculars are 10 "power" with 50 millimeter objective lenses. (10x50)
When you're talking about a rifle scope that is a 4x12, that is a scope with a variable power of 4 to 12. I don't like writing it as "4x12." That would mean 4 "by" 12, when it should be 4 "to" 12. So it should be "4-12." Then if it's a 50 millimeter objective it would be 4-12x50 or with a 40 millimeter objective lens a 4-12x40. (4 to 12 by 40 not 4 by 12 by 40)
The 6.5 x 284 is the name of a rifle cartridge, just like the 300 WSM is the name of the cartridge.
And the 5x20 should probably be written 5-20.
Hope I helped and didn't confuse you more than you already are.
Post by: Russ McDonald on April 12, 2012, 02:44:30 PM
Post by: Curly on April 12, 2012, 02:51:37 PM
Sweet ! I was just thinking 10 x 50 cause my binocs are 10 x50 ??? :dunno: but I guess a 4 x 12 is what I need lol. I want drop comp marks does the Nikon offer that in 4x12? And is the 6.5 x 284 the feild of view on the 5x20? What's it mean ? Thanks again I'm gonna have it dialed out to six hundred way before season!
Bob
Your binoculars are 10 "power" with 50 millimeter objective lenses. (10x50)
When you're talking about a rifle scope that is a 4x12, that is a scope with a variable power of 4 to 12. I don't like writing it as "4x12." That would mean 4 "by" 12, when it should be 4 "to" 12. So it should be "4-12." Then if it's a 50 millimeter objective it would be 4-12x50 or with a 40 millimeter objective lens a 4-12x40. (4 to 12 by 40 not 4 by 12 by 40)
The 6.5 x 284 is the name of a rifle cartridge, just like the 300 WSM is the name of the cartridge.
And the 5x20 should probably be written 5-20.
Hope I helped and didn't confuse you more than you already are.
Thanks for explaining that. :tup: I think it is good for people to get the nomenclature correct. It really does help to use the correct terms. 8)
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 12, 2012, 03:17:07 PM
Sweet ! I was just thinking 10 x 50 cause my binocs are 10 x50 ??? :dunno: but I guess a 4 x 12 is what I need lol. I want drop comp marks does the Nikon offer that in 4x12? And is the 6.5 x 284 the feild of view on the 5x20? What's it mean ? Thanks again I'm gonna have it dialed out to six hundred way before season!
Bob
Your binoculars are 10 "power" with 50 millimeter objective lenses. (10x50)
When you're talking about a rifle scope that is a 4x12, that is a scope with a variable power of 4 to 12. I don't like writing it as "4x12." That would mean 4 "by" 12, when it should be 4 "to" 12. So it should be "4-12." Then if it's a 50 millimeter objective it would be 4-12x50 or with a 40 millimeter objective lens a 4-12x40. (4 to 12 by 40 not 4 by 12 by 40)
The 6.5 x 284 is the name of a rifle cartridge, just like the 300 WSM is the name of the cartridge.
And the 5x20 should probably be written 5-20.
Hope I helped and didn't confuse you more than you already are.
Not confused thanks man. I know what 10-50 is just wrote it wrong. I didn't know a 4-12 was suitable for long range shots. I am excited to put my archery skills to use hunting up high. Should be able to connect with a good one.
Post by: lazydrifter on April 12, 2012, 04:50:09 PM
Brant
Post by: bobcat on April 12, 2012, 04:53:42 PM
You guys are making this to confusing. To start off, if you don't reload I wouldn't buy a 300 wsm. Shells are to expensive. I would buy a 30-06 and put a 3-9x40 or a 4-12 x40 scope on it. Sight it in a 200 yards and you shouldn't have to aim off the hair even out to 400 yards. I would look for a complete package. Buy a used setup that has a good quality scope on it. In this economy you shoould be able to find a really nice setup complete for 6 or 700 bucks.
Brant
I totally agree with that. I was confused by the original question and wasn't quite sure what he was asking, or what he was looking for. But yes, a 30-06 is all a guy needs, along with a 3-9x40 scope. That's the combination I always recommend to people. It's good out to as far as most people have any business shooting, cost is reasonable, and recoil is not excessive.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 12, 2012, 06:39:40 PM
You guys are making this to confusing. To start off, if you don't reload I wouldn't buy a 300 wsm. Shells are to expensive. I would buy a 30-06 and put a 3-9x40 or a 4-12 x40 scope on it. Sight it in a 200 yards and you shouldn't have to aim off the hair even out to 400 yards. I would look for a complete package. Buy a used setup that has a good quality scope on it. In this economy you shoould be able to find a really nice setup complete for 6 or 700 bucks.
Brant
Thanks brant. I will be getting a used 300 WSM and scope ....... I'm not sure yet like I said I want the drop compensation marks probably go with a Nikon due to $ being a little less and my binos are Nikon and seem quality for my price range. I'm not worried about price of rounds. My girlfriend plans on deer and elk hunting with this setup this year she's not worried about recoil.... Well she weighs 100 pounds soooo it might rock her but she's tough. Even with th wsn I will probably only take 200 -400 yard shots I hunt ethical and would never attempt a shot from a range I wasn't confident at 40 yards was my archery range last year I can target shoot my bow out to 70 so if I can hit the target at 600 I'll probably feel confident at 400 in the feild hunting. Thanks for the help. I will post it and some video after I get it on the range.
Bob
Post by: lazydrifter on April 12, 2012, 06:46:56 PM
Brant
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 12, 2012, 06:49:13 PM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 12, 2012, 07:11:01 PM
5x20 100-1000 yards 6.5x284. I think you will like the 300 wsm . my kid has a tikka t3 in.300wsm with a 3x9 leupod . I think i'm gonna put my nikon 4x12 on it I really like the 4x12s .
How is the tikka t3 in tha cal performance wise? I found a used one first one said $550 is that about what I should expect the ticket to be? I think it had scope rings.
Post by: lazydrifter on April 12, 2012, 08:00:52 PM
Brant