Post by: JoshT on August 04, 2008, 10:02:06 AM
If one of the moderators would set it up... or if they'd like me to set it up... I feel this would go a long way toward mending the relationship that we need to have with other groups of outdoorsmen.
Post by: saylean on August 04, 2008, 10:04:52 AM
Post by: DeKuma on August 04, 2008, 10:15:38 AM
Post by: kramman on August 04, 2008, 11:09:39 AM
Post by: bucklucky on August 04, 2008, 11:25:29 AM
Post by: ICEMAN on August 04, 2008, 11:27:04 AM
Post by: Slider on August 04, 2008, 01:51:29 PM
Post by: KillBilly on August 04, 2008, 01:55:06 PM
Post by: Machias on August 04, 2008, 02:00:08 PM
Post by: Ray on August 04, 2008, 02:36:58 PM
Post by: JoshT on August 04, 2008, 03:00:51 PM
Hell, even if we just sent some kind of card... whatever. My point is, we should send some type of united message that this is as unacceptable in our community (as WA hunters) as it is in their's.
Post by: Rowdy on August 04, 2008, 03:03:59 PM
Post by: Ray on August 04, 2008, 03:05:35 PM
Post by: DeKuma on August 04, 2008, 03:29:29 PM
Post by: saylean on August 04, 2008, 03:45:54 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on August 04, 2008, 04:42:25 PM
If the famiily wouldnt accept it, we could donate the funds to youth hunters education in here name, for example.
+1
Post by: Lowedog on August 04, 2008, 04:47:54 PM
-Lowedog
Post by: washingtonmuley on August 04, 2008, 04:50:29 PM
Excellent idea. I'm in as well.
Post by: rainshadow1 on August 04, 2008, 04:52:59 PM
We can't worry about how much better the kid should have been supervised, or any of the 9 million other things that were done wrong... A statement of condolence from a group of Washington Hunters. That's it.
Post by: 3dsheetmetal on August 04, 2008, 04:55:10 PM
Post by: jeff100 on August 04, 2008, 06:53:29 PM
Jeff
Post by: Dode on August 04, 2008, 07:08:34 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 04, 2008, 07:53:31 PM
Post by: Backstraps on August 04, 2008, 07:55:36 PM
Dano
Post by: rosscrazyelk on August 04, 2008, 08:26:59 PM
Post by: chukarchaser on August 04, 2008, 10:19:38 PM
Post by: M_ray on August 04, 2008, 11:04:57 PM
Post by: hunterbuilder on August 04, 2008, 11:09:45 PM
Eric
Post by: Shadow Cat on August 05, 2008, 01:34:39 AM
Post by: MountainWalk on August 05, 2008, 01:39:34 AM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 05, 2008, 01:48:34 AM
Post by: ICEMAN on August 05, 2008, 02:04:21 AM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 05, 2008, 02:13:23 AM
Though I still think the money going to the family would be my first vote. :)
Post by: Ridgerunner on August 05, 2008, 08:12:29 AM
Post by: Oldguy on August 05, 2008, 09:33:46 AM
What is the Youth Hunter Program? If you mean the Hunter Safety Course, it is funded by the WDFW and the money would not directly benefit youth. The instructors are volunteers and receive nothing for the time. I think the trail associated donation would be more appropriate if the family agreed; it should be their choice.
Post by: scudmaster on August 05, 2008, 09:53:28 AM
Post by: huntnphool on August 05, 2008, 09:54:33 AM
How about contacting whoever is in charge of the trail systems and possibly nameing the trailhead in her name, maybe with some sort of rock monument and her picture. :twocents:
Post by: Hunting Cowboy on August 05, 2008, 10:22:55 AM
Count me in as well.
How about contacting whoever is in charge of the trail systems and possibly nameing the trailhead in her name, maybe with some sort of rock monument and her picture. :twocents:
Great idea huntnphool!
Count me in along with those who've already stepped up.
Post by: rainshadow1 on August 05, 2008, 10:54:13 AM
Post by: huntingnut on August 05, 2008, 11:11:51 AM
Post by: DeKuma on August 05, 2008, 12:25:54 PM
Post by: DeKuma on August 05, 2008, 01:44:53 PM
I have not granted an interview as of yet, and will need to talk with Ray prior to bringing the Media services too deep into all of this.
I have expressed to them that it is important to us that we show the community our collective thoughts and feelings regarding this tragedy that could easly have been avoided. I am leary of dealing with them, as we have seen many times how the press can skew things and make it ugly, but at the same time, I think it could be a help in generating public awareness that we do not condone such acts or see them as commonplace.
What are your thoughts? How would you like me to proceed? This started becasue I ws searching for a way to get a contact for the family and a way to get funds delivered to them. I was not trying to draw too much attention to our actions, but thought it might help to get the word out and since no one has stepped up to run this, I thought I could try to find a way to get it rolling to start at least.
Post by: Mike450r on August 05, 2008, 01:58:17 PM
The media scares me I guess.
I would think hunting/fishing publications, something in the form of a bulletin or poster at sporting goods stores, sportmens, cabelas, joes, etc... may get the word out and enough in donations that the mainstream or larger media would have a harder time putting any negative spin on it. Just my thoughts, or paranoia maybe
Post by: DeKuma on August 05, 2008, 02:05:06 PM
I have made contact attempts with hunting publications as well as coporate offices with Cabela's, Sportsmans Warehouse, and tried Joe's as well, but it returned undeliverable.
Maybe granparichard can work the Joe's side of things?
This is why I want to get Ray involved, since this is his baby. I would hate for anything negative to come of this since we are trying to do the right thing.
Post by: saylean on August 05, 2008, 02:51:12 PM
But that is my 2 cents.
Post by: DeKuma on August 05, 2008, 02:59:37 PM
I have not granted the interview, as I really do not want it to be about me or anything remotely close, but want them to note that hunters are taking action to help fellow man, not just their own interests.
Post by: jeff100 on August 05, 2008, 04:30:39 PM
IMO, a formal statement should be authored that represents the collective message we would like to make to the public and to the family of the victim. The media would be obligated to present the statement as it's written, whether in part or in it's entirety.
My :twocents: worth...Jeff
Post by: DeKuma on August 05, 2008, 06:43:26 PM
It should be on tomorrows paper. They will be trying to get in contact with the family of the shooting victim and also posting additional information regarding Josh that Robodad has supplied me. I am also hoping to forward Bone the information so he can submit his article regarding Josh for inclusion in a follow up article.
Post by: M_ray on August 05, 2008, 07:20:50 PM
Post by: robodad on August 05, 2008, 07:28:59 PM
We should be taking any opportunity to spread the word that hunters are not the barbaric freaks that we are portrayed to be and will stand up for a family whose loved one was killed by one of our own and lend support to them in this terrible time, Thank you very much for including Josh in your interview, only good things can come out of a fight for a young man's life !!!
Nice job !!!
Post by: Ray on August 05, 2008, 07:37:40 PM
From my perspective.. having lost my father this year; who was close to me all my life I believe that I can relate to the family members of this lady. Of course my father was not taken from this earth by another human being; in the end he is gone and that is all I can relate to.
Moving forward I think the best way to portray myself to the public is exactly with some of the descriptive terms above. When I meet other people out in the woods while hunting I will try to be mindful, respectful, courteous and maybe even outgoing if they seem receptive to discussion. I would like to educate folks when they are open to hearing what I am up to and how I carry out my business. I would do this so that they don't view us all as savage animals on a rampage to kill anything that moves. It's not something I started this week though. It is an ongoing thing.
God Bless Pamela's family and may they forgive the young individuals who were on the other end.
Post by: DeKuma on August 05, 2008, 08:37:02 PM
Post by: griz272000 on August 05, 2008, 09:12:56 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on August 05, 2008, 10:26:16 PM
I just hope the media does us right. There are alot of people that shed a tear or two (though most won't admit it) for the victim but sometimes our words are too easily mistaken for bravado.
Post by: billythekidrock on August 05, 2008, 10:42:09 PM
Post by: saylean on August 05, 2008, 10:45:11 PM
Post by: scudmaster on August 06, 2008, 01:32:46 AM
Post by: DeKuma on August 06, 2008, 06:46:06 AM
Post by: mtndew on August 06, 2008, 08:11:56 AM
We should be able to open an account at a Bank of America or another area wide bank, in Trust for the Almli family. This would allow people to deposit the money directly and not require one individual to be responsible for handling of the funds directly.That is a very good idea.
Post by: kramman on August 06, 2008, 12:57:22 PM
Post by: DeKuma on August 06, 2008, 01:10:12 PM
I considered setting up a paypal account for this purpose, but then I am still out of luck on where to send the funds. If we do not get resolution from the family or their representative, we will have to take this on as a fund raiser for education or the likes. Not sure of the legal aspect of using her name in any way without the families permission, so I am trying to find this out as well.
Maybe Pope can find the legal side of it??
Post by: BONE COLLECTOR on August 07, 2008, 07:29:45 AM
Post by: DeKuma on August 07, 2008, 07:33:40 AM
If they agree, then I will need them to authorize or set-up the fund at a bank of their choosing.
I am still waiting on official answer from Bank of America..........
Post by: BONE COLLECTOR on August 07, 2008, 08:14:11 AM
Post by: rainshadow1 on August 07, 2008, 08:33:32 AM
Post by: JoshT on August 07, 2008, 12:37:34 PM
Post by: Dave Workman on June 04, 2009, 10:27:41 AM
I would like to know, because of this:
Seattle GRE looks at aftermath of last year's hunting tragedies in Washington.
http://www.examiner.com/x-4525-Seattle-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m6d4-A-tale-of-two-hunting-deaths-a-disparity-in-public-reaction
If that doesn't work, try this:
http://tinyurl.com/pj5wxr
Post by: groundhog on June 04, 2009, 10:56:27 AM
Post by: Alchase on June 04, 2009, 11:40:49 AM
what about a memorial fund in her name to improve or expand on the Hunter safety classes to give these tragedy's as examples? Or adding to the curriculum?
Post by: Machias on June 04, 2009, 12:03:23 PM
Did anything ever happen with this memorial fund for Pamela Almli?
I would like to know, because of this:
Seattle GRE looks at aftermath of last year's hunting tragedies in Washington.
http://www.examiner.com/x-4525-Seattle-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m6d4-A-tale-of-two-hunting-deaths-a-disparity-in-public-reaction
If that doesn't work, try this:
http://tinyurl.com/pj5wxr
Very well written, I really enjoy reading your column.
Last I heard about the memorial fund is someone was going to contact the family and see what they wanted. I have not heard if contact was made with the family and if so what their wishes are. I'm sure everyone here is still very willing to contribute.
Post by: FrankDown on June 04, 2009, 12:05:32 PM
If anyone has any further information please let us know. To me it seems that either giving it to the family or having the family name something to donate the proceeds to would be the best bet. Leave it up to the family to decide. They have a better idea of what she may have wanted than we do IMO.
Post by: M_ray on June 05, 2009, 08:07:51 AM