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Title: anyone know when Utah
Post by: boneaddict on May 04, 2012, 07:11:18 AM
is going to post?   I've been kind of out of touch with it all this year
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Bob33 on May 04, 2012, 07:45:21 AM
My notes indicate May 28 last year.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Craig on May 04, 2012, 07:49:28 AM
I hope soon. Waiting for my Henrys deer tag. Should be pretty good odds with two points  :chuckle:
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: shanevg on May 04, 2012, 08:18:05 AM
Yeah, I saw in the most recent Huntin Fool that some people were already listing the Utah tags they drew. I wonder how they know already. I'm looking forward to my elk or goat tag in UT.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: baldopepper on May 04, 2012, 08:31:18 AM
Most units did'nt even have a permit number until a meeting last night (supposedly) - once those numbers are set they will start the draw process. Again, suppposedly today.  Offically they say they will have them posted on the 31st of may, but most of the Utah guys watch their credit cards and see if a  "hit" is put on it.  Could start seeing something on your card as early as next week.  Jump on the Utah hunters forum, those guys usually start posting when they get the info.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: boneaddict on May 08, 2012, 07:27:29 AM
Thanks guys!   Goodluck to all of you that applied.   I have enough points that I continued to apply to this state.  Many of the other states I dropped.   
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: huntnnw on May 08, 2012, 10:34:21 PM
I have heard mid may for CC hits
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: nwhunter on May 08, 2012, 10:44:46 PM
Im hoping for a Utah elk tag too but not holding my breathe. I think the guys in Huntin Fool that already have Utah hunts either have land owner tags or they won tags at the expo show in Salt Lake where they raffle off a bunch of tags they steal from us nonresidents. nwhunter
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Bigshooter on May 09, 2012, 04:15:03 PM
I hope they draw soon. I gotta funny feeling im going to draw a deer tag.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: MtnMuley on May 09, 2012, 04:21:19 PM
I have a feeling I will strike out in the Henry's.... :chuckle:
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: boneaddict on May 09, 2012, 08:45:35 PM
If I had any brains at all...maybe a bigger wallet then brains, I'd go down just to photo it.   
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Buckblaster on May 12, 2012, 09:26:06 AM
I drew the San Juan/Elk Ridge deer permit in 2009.  If anyone draws that, let me know, I'll fill you in with everthing I know.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Bigshooter on May 17, 2012, 09:05:02 PM
Should start to see some credit card hits any day now.  :tup:
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: HUNT on May 17, 2012, 09:27:23 PM
Rumor has it you will start to see credit card hits this weekend.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: arrowflinger on May 18, 2012, 12:18:02 PM
Starting to show now.............Pending on mine.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Roger on May 18, 2012, 09:39:09 PM
Nothing showing on mine.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Alaskan on May 19, 2012, 09:13:46 AM
They have started to show!
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: threedwizard on May 19, 2012, 09:19:59 AM
CC hits have been showing up. Some of my friends have been calling me and telling me what they drew for. I just bought points this year as I am going for moose and mtn. goat in BC this fall. I have 12 points for bison, so a few more years to wait.  :(
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: boneaddict on May 19, 2012, 10:04:38 AM
No CC hits yet.
Title: anyone know when Utah
Post by: wackmaster on May 19, 2012, 12:57:46 PM
So do they just charge the cc that u applied with or how does that work
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: boneaddict on May 19, 2012, 01:00:48 PM
Yes
Title: anyone know when Utah
Post by: wackmaster on May 19, 2012, 01:01:57 PM
Thanks bone
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: shanevg on May 20, 2012, 04:20:12 PM
They charge the card you used to apply but they space the draws out over a week or two.  Your card may not show any charges today but that doesn't mean you weren't drawn yet.  Also, if your card declines the charge for whatever reason, they will call you to try and figure it out, so don't ignore a phone call from a Utah number!
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: boneaddict on May 21, 2012, 06:52:31 AM
When I drew New Mexico...I think it was anyways, my credit card company held payment as it triggered a fraud alert.   It almost cost me the draw.   THANKFULLY I caught the call.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Roger on May 21, 2012, 07:29:24 AM
Just checked my card and have a charge from Utah Fish and Game for $463.  :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Bigshooter on May 21, 2012, 08:32:19 AM
Just checked my card and have a charge from Utah Fish and Game for $463.  :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:

Books cliffs?
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: baldopepper on May 21, 2012, 11:41:22 AM
Just hit me this morning for a LaSalle mtns muzzy buck permit. 
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: NoBark on May 21, 2012, 12:00:54 PM
Congrats guys!  My kid pulled an LE elk tag there last year. Doesn't look like a back-to-back trip for us this year.  :'(
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Roger on May 21, 2012, 01:30:07 PM
Don't know what unit yet, as I had more than 1 pick and the results are not up on the Utah site.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Bigshooter on May 21, 2012, 02:21:54 PM
Don't know what unit yet, as I had more than 1 pick and the results are not up on the Utah site.

Well you're not going to draw a second choice unless you just put in for one of the general season units, and a general season tag is only $263.   $463 is the price of a limited tag.  So I guarantee you drew your first choice.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Roger on May 21, 2012, 06:01:07 PM
So with that, fist choice was West Desert, Vernon. 
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Bigshooter on May 22, 2012, 07:46:08 AM
So with that, fist choice was West Desert, Vernon.


How many pts did you have?
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on May 22, 2012, 08:24:11 AM
Weird, I thought they would have hit my cc for my henry mountains muley hunt by now ;-)
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Roger on May 22, 2012, 10:11:56 AM
I had 10.

Anybody know anthing about the area, I was looking on Google Earth last night and looked over the country. Have to start getting the maps and making some phone calls.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: baldopepper on May 22, 2012, 10:34:15 AM
If you've never been to Vernon, Utah-let me just say it's not the most scenic area in Utah.  Desert country, sage brush with heavy oak brush canyons here and there.  It will undoubtly be a dry camp, figure to take lots of water with you.  Havent been there in years ( I grew up in Utah and used to go out on the west desert quite a bit)  I can't think of any country in Washington that would be close to what you'll be hunting there.  Used to be you had to see 100 does before you saw a buck in that country, but it's probably changed. Take a good long range shooting rifle.  Kind of curious why you'd pick that unit?
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Bigshooter on May 22, 2012, 11:28:24 AM
I had 10.

Anybody know anthing about the area, I was looking on Google Earth last night and looked over the country. Have to start getting the maps and making some phone calls.

I know that the last couple years it has been hit very hard by poaching.  A lot of guys on mm were worried about the poaching effecting the trophy quality of the hunt.  I see a few bucks posted on mm from here every year.  Most are 150-160" with a couple that will push 170".  I'd go see what you can find out over on mm.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: MtnMuley on May 22, 2012, 04:00:13 PM
I had 10.

Anybody know anthing about the area, I was looking on Google Earth last night and looked over the country. Have to start getting the maps and making some phone calls.

Not to sound like a dick, but you burned 10 ten years worth of points toward an area you know nothing about?
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: RubblesPH on May 22, 2012, 05:07:28 PM
"Not to sound like a dick, but you burned 10 ten years worth of points toward an area you know nothing about?"

How much in your opinion should you know about the area?  Is there some sort of sliding scale that you live by?  I put in for several states a year for multiple species that I have a very general knowledge of the quality of animals/access/terrain. Then if I'm drawn I do further research.  Been a pretty successful approach for me.  Can't know every road/animal in every unit in every state.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Buckblaster on May 22, 2012, 05:12:00 PM
Check out this website for Utah hunt info.  The locals might give out info to NR hunters by private message that they wouldn't give to their RES competition.
http://utahwildlife.net/forum/index.php
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: TheHunt on May 22, 2012, 05:23:35 PM
I know on MM they don't help the out of staters much.   I do like the folk that say you should know the unit before you put in for a unit.  I put in for units to get drawn and I do the google earth scouting.   Call the biologist and see if anyone can on the internet can give any opinions. 

I schedule a plane at the nearest airport to the unit through my flying club and fly the unit with my GPS and my knee board with MOB numbers.  Then just hit the MOB and write down what I see next to the specific number.  Pretty simple and you can all lots out on a unit very quickly.  Of course you cannot hunt the same day you fly so you go down a few days before the season starts.  You should have enough information to put your camp and get your plan together.   
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Roger on May 22, 2012, 09:43:17 PM
Thanks for the couple of forums and responses. Spent several hours on the sites this evening and was able pick some info.

This will be a new adventure and look forward to it. I do go to new areas all the time and have a great time doing it.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Buckblaster on May 23, 2012, 07:06:32 AM
I have found that if you draw a great tag, it doesn't take a wildlife bio to find the critters.  Do your scouting covering the unit either just before or during your hunt.  Once you find out where the biggest concentrations of animals are, start there and expand as needed.  I hunt new areas frequently that I have never seen before and have not been disappointed.  If you put in your time, you will do okay.  It never hurts to get some good knowledge from others but if you don't, do not sweat it.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: boneaddict on May 23, 2012, 09:12:36 AM
Quote
It never hurts to get some good knowledge from others

It all stems on the word "good" :)
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: boneaddict on May 23, 2012, 09:18:57 AM
I think Utah draws deer and elk first then the OIL.   This rings a bell because once you draw a tag you are ineligible for anything else.    I'd sure hate to draw a deer tag the year I was going to draw a moose.  :)
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Roger on May 23, 2012, 10:18:54 AM
I have found that if you draw a great tag, it doesn't take a wildlife bio to find the critters.  Do your scouting covering the unit either just before or during your hunt.  Once you find out where the biggest concentrations of animals are, start there and expand as needed.  I hunt new areas frequently that I have never seen before and have not been disappointed.  If you put in your time, you will do okay.  It never hurts to get some good knowledge from others but if you don't, do not sweat it.

That is exactly what I do with my travels to new areas. Will be getting maps shortly and do that study. Plan on getting there up to week in advance to start looking the are over, and have my camp fairly mobile so that I can move easily if needed. I'm sure it will be a great experience.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: MtnMuley on May 23, 2012, 02:44:51 PM
"Not to sound like a dick, but you burned 10 ten years worth of points toward an area you know nothing about?"

How much in your opinion should you know about the area?  Is there some sort of sliding scale that you live by?  I put in for several states a year for multiple species that I have a very general knowledge of the quality of animals/access/terrain. Then if I'm drawn I do further research.  Been a pretty successful approach for me.  Can't know every road/animal in every unit in every state.

Did I say that you need to know every road or every animal in every state, smartass?  Then asking if there's a sliding scale that I live by?  What a *censored*.  It was a simple question I asked and it wasn't even directed at you.  If you put in for several states a year for multiple species and have a very general knowledge of the quality of animals/access/terrain, then why are you even commenting?  That's kind of where I was going with my question.  Seems like none of these things were researched.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Buckblaster on May 23, 2012, 03:05:30 PM
You will do fine Roger.  Good luck!
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: RubblesPH on May 23, 2012, 09:14:00 PM
MtnMuley

You prefaced your response with "not to sound like a dick" - well you did.

Using terms like smartass and *censored* only further my point.

If he put in for the unit and he had 10 points going into it, one would think that he has some general knowledge of the unit - he's just asking for some help....which others were kind enough to provide. 
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: huntnnw on May 24, 2012, 05:01:52 AM
I put in for outta state units every year without stepping foot in them! I dont live there and have 0 need to be there unless I have a tag! I research units on which ones I wanna apply for IF I draw then I do what I can to learn about area..scout if possible and hunt it. If your drawing good tags it doesnt take a rocket scientist to find game in units. I apply in UT every year and have yet to be in the state.. I know when i draw Ill have a good tag..call Bio and research and Ill have places to start.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 24, 2012, 05:44:56 AM
Nothing different than what most out of state hunters do when wanting to hunt quality areas unless you have lived or hunted there in the past
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Buckblaster on May 24, 2012, 07:02:19 AM
Huntnnw hit it right on the head.  I take the exact same approach.  Anyone deserves a little respect when they simply ask for information that others are willing to share.  Its nice to have a little insight when going to a distant land that you have never seen before hoping to shoot a big critter that you have been applying for at least 10 years. 
I was contacted last week by a guy that drew an San Juan/Elk Ridge deer tag.  I drew that tag 3 years ago and I am telling him everything I know about the unit so that he might have a great experience like I did.  That is what this forum is all about.  On these hard to draw permits, why not share what you know since you may never draw it again.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: MtnMuley on May 24, 2012, 08:15:12 AM
I think everybody must have interpreted his response different than I did.  By no means will a guy completely know all the units when applying for many out of state hunts.  To me, he sounded like he used 10 points for a tag that he knew nothing about, then asked about info.  After reading it again, I can relate to what he probably meant.  Hence, the reason I stated" Not to sound like a dick".  Was hoping he'd reply that he researched the unit and felt it would be a good choice to spend his ten year wait, and was now gathering the info to make it successful.  And by no means if it were an area for an out of state quality hunt that I knew something about, that I wouldn't share it with that member via PM.  I've done it several times. ;)
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Roger on May 24, 2012, 01:07:28 PM
I spend a lot of time on the site here, but don't say to much. It's funny to me to how worked up some of you get over some words that people say, and that's all I'm going to say about this one.

I will have a great time going to a new place that I haven't seen before. It's not about having to take the biggest animal. it's about the whole experience, from research to the drawing and finally getting drawn, to the travel, to the time spent there and the coming back to reality.

My trip this year at this point is to Utah for this deer draw, then to Mt. for another deer and home. There are still some draws out there that we are all waiting for. 
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: RubblesPH on May 24, 2012, 07:20:04 PM
Roger,  I think the logistics of the hunt is half the fun/challenge, drawing the tag is the hard part. Sounds like your on the right track and enjoying the ride.  I have some intel on the unit but it's about 7+ years old and probably low value at this point.  If you do get in a crunch let me know and I'll dig it out.

Congrats and good luck!
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: B.G.hunter on May 24, 2012, 07:45:38 PM
Good luck, Roger I hope you shoot a big one.  If nothing else have fun on the adventure.  Just keep us posted I will be interested in how you do.   ;)  Plenty of pictures please.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: huntnnw on May 27, 2012, 11:13:41 PM
I totally agree its the experience of the trip..last year I drew a permit in ID and had a blast mule deer hunting a unit I had never been in and will continue to put in for this unit in the future
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Roger on May 28, 2012, 09:45:03 PM
Some people have been getting calls and/or emails that they sold more tags than allowed for a few units and so they will be crediting the credit cards of those that will be loosing the draw. 

As of now I have not received a call or email. Hope it holds until the official emails come out about the drawing results.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 30, 2012, 05:30:24 AM
Well no luck for sheep, elk, or deer in Utah this year.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Roger on May 30, 2012, 07:28:25 PM
Just got the official email from Utah. Successful for hunt # 1020 West Desert, Vernon, Deer. :IBCOOL:
Title: anyone know when Utah
Post by: arrowflinger on May 30, 2012, 08:23:32 PM
Email received....general buck


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Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: RubblesPH on May 30, 2012, 08:48:18 PM
Unsuccessful for everything...the usual response.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 30, 2012, 08:53:19 PM
Same here:
Elk Bull      UNSUCCESSFUL
Rocky Mountai UNSUCCESSFUL
Buck Deer     UNSUCCESSFUL
Desert Bighor UNSUCCESSFUL

Krappy luck for out of state for me. Just dumped some more money today for Az sheep and deer.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Ridgerunner on May 30, 2012, 09:42:07 PM
It's official no luck for me in Utah, down to MT sheep and Washington.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: HUNT on May 30, 2012, 10:23:53 PM
Nothing for me either.  But its a ten year plan for me.  I'm in for the long haul.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on May 30, 2012, 10:49:32 PM
How do you check?
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: bearpaw on May 30, 2012, 11:26:27 PM
I got my notice by email today.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on May 31, 2012, 06:02:05 AM
UNSUCCESSFUL...ACROSS THE BOARD.

First year putting in though, so I expected as much :) 
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Craig on May 31, 2012, 07:38:14 AM
I guess a Henrys deer tag and desert bighorn tag was to much to ask for. Unsuccessful
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: shanevg on May 31, 2012, 07:42:08 AM
Nada for me as well. I think the only states left for me are MT, AZ, and WA.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: norsepeak on May 31, 2012, 07:57:52 AM
zip for me, off to my usual start, 0 for 2 states :bash:
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: JODakota on May 31, 2012, 08:06:59 AM
I got my notice by email today.

Did you draw Bearpaw? If so whatd ya get?
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Bigshooter on May 31, 2012, 08:25:50 AM
The big UN for me.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: TheHunt on May 31, 2012, 08:35:08 AM
Nothing for me as well.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: boneaddict on May 31, 2012, 02:17:34 PM
After about 8 years of them telling me..."USUC(k).......", you'd think I'd learn.   I think it was still cheaper than washington to apply for though.    :)
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: bearpaw on May 31, 2012, 02:19:54 PM
I got my notice by email today.

Did you draw Bearpaw? If so whatd ya get?

No, all I got was points. I am getting close to a bull tag though.  :)
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: boneaddict on May 31, 2012, 02:22:07 PM
as in MOOSE....for me. :chuckle:   Maybe next year...
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Ironhead on May 31, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
Nada for me,  ID and WA to go.
After striking out in WY, CO, NV,UT and NM, I am willing to bet the only tag I draw this year, is a second deer tag in WA with 14 points.
 I know I shouldn't whine, I have already hit the super tag lotto. It's hard to believe my extrordinary good luck, in drawing a multi season Deer tag with 0 points, and it only cost 182.00 plus application fee.
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: boneaddict on May 31, 2012, 09:02:32 PM
 :chuckle:  yeah, me too
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: MtnMuley on May 31, 2012, 10:22:35 PM
.......but like a dumba$$, I purchased my multi before the special permit results came out. :(
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: JPhelps on May 31, 2012, 10:31:10 PM
Found out today in an e-mail I was successful for Limited Entry Elk and Limited Entry Deer...Points ;)
Title: Re: anyone know when Utah
Post by: Roger on July 06, 2012, 10:52:45 AM
The Limited Entry Deer tag finally after a month.
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