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Title: cashin in
Post by: heavy hauler on May 14, 2012, 08:02:36 PM
i have 14 elk points this year. i am applying for a hunt in the blues. dang i am exited
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: gaddy on May 14, 2012, 08:08:40 PM
WHY ?  No elk in the blues.
(good luck)
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: Branden on May 14, 2012, 08:17:09 PM
My buddy applied with 16 or 17 last year and didn't draw. Hope you have better luck then he did.
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Post by: buckreaper on May 14, 2012, 08:24:04 PM
I'm doing the same with 15 points but I'm not counting on anything.  Hoping!
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 14, 2012, 08:25:59 PM
Good luck on the draw, but nothing is for sure in this state.
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on May 14, 2012, 08:38:33 PM
yeah a buddy of mine has like 18 moose points and he is excited too !!!! :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: ;)
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 14, 2012, 08:53:56 PM
I feel like I have an advantage with a few points here and there.  I put in for most everything I could hunt in between Idaho.  So I'm just thinking I have nothin to lose.  I'd be mad if 15 years had gone by and not one draw!  I'll just use wa as a backup for out of state.  That way I'm never disappointed.
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: MuleDeerCrazy on May 14, 2012, 09:03:32 PM
18 for me last year and nada!
Title: cashin in
Post by: slim9300 on May 14, 2012, 09:20:40 PM
i have 14 elk points this year. i am applying for a hunt in the blues. dang i am exited

Your odds are still probably about 20-30%. Good luck.


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Title: cashin in
Post by: Chesapeake on May 14, 2012, 09:30:38 PM
If you do the math you will see that after about 8 points you top out at about 12% on average of people in each point bracket drawing. Guys with 20+ points didn't draw last year. You had just as good of chances of drawing last year. There are so few good tags we are experiencing points creep like crazy in this state. There is only enough draw tags each year for about 4% of the applicants to get one. So if no one new entered the draw and each tag was a OIL then we could all draw quality elk tags in about 25 years.

Apply in other states!!!!!!! The more the better.
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: mfswallace on May 14, 2012, 09:52:24 PM
I had 1 point a few years ago and drew the Firing center for deer, anything can happen.
Not that it's the best draw but I was one of 25 out of 1900...
Heavy Horned Old Man
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: mpetersen on May 14, 2012, 10:04:04 PM
Drew margaret quality bull with only four points, buddies with over ten points not too happy !
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: bucksandbulls on May 15, 2012, 03:16:54 AM
i drew moose in 2003 on 3 points. got a ice 41 in bull opening morning.  the point is    theres always a chance . im excited for this year too.
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: bucklucky on May 15, 2012, 07:32:03 AM
I know of a guy with 36 points and couldnt draw a tag in the blues ......  :dunno:
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: JPhelps on May 15, 2012, 07:38:42 AM
Not to be a spoiler but I just checked a spreadsheet I have using last years numbers and it looks like with that many points most units in the blues are still under a 25% draw odds. :dunno:

Somebody has to draw though. :tup:
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: Mr Mykiss on May 15, 2012, 11:49:54 AM
As per previous discussions Washington animals are "point shy" you want to be right around 5-7 points to have a guaranteed draw... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: Elkstuffer on May 15, 2012, 04:51:43 PM
Not counting points for turning in poachers, what is the max points this year? Didn't they start the points program in 96 or 97? If so, max points would be 15 or 16 going into this year, Correct?
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: DeerThug on May 15, 2012, 04:55:20 PM
Never seen someone so excited to earn another point.... :chuckle:
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: autodink13 on May 15, 2012, 09:32:02 PM
Every year until late june i feel the same way as you, im gonna draw! Then they post the results and depress me for a week or two.

Im pretty sure this is my year though :chuckle:
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: bobcat on May 15, 2012, 09:40:16 PM
Not counting points for turning in poachers, what is the max points this year? Didn't they start the points program in 96 or 97? If so, max points would be 15 or 16 going into this year, Correct?

Yeah, it was '96. The most points you could have in the draw this year is 17.

The 16 you've accumulated and the 1 you gain when you submit this year's application.

Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: heavy hauler on May 18, 2012, 08:11:05 PM
i am holding out hope  this is my year.  :IBCOOL:
Title: cashin in
Post by: Chesapeake on May 18, 2012, 08:36:27 PM
You and the rest of us. It's like fishing. If aint got a hook in the water, you ain't got a chance.
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: Hunterman on May 18, 2012, 08:54:32 PM
i am holding out hope  this is my year.  :IBCOOL:

So thats why you've been walking us into the dirt  :bdid: Did your boss ok the time off yet??  Becky says "I tast elk tenderloin"  :drool:

Hunterman(Tony)
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: Arteman on May 19, 2012, 01:52:24 AM
Good luck to all of you, I hope you all draw!  As long as you didn't apply for what I did.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: SI Eagle on May 19, 2012, 07:17:11 AM
I never get to excited, 15 points for quality bull, bull, quality deer, goat, moose, antlerless moose, and sheep and I have never drawn a thing. That's 15 years of not drawing a thing. Good thing I am going to Colorado in October.
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: shoot-em-dead on May 19, 2012, 07:29:18 AM
You should put in for a turkey tag just so you can claim to be a winner
Title: cashin in
Post by: slim9300 on May 19, 2012, 11:51:27 AM
I never get to excited, 15 points for quality bull, bull, quality deer, goat, moose, antlerless moose, and sheep and I have never drawn a thing. That's 15 years of not drawing a thing. Good thing I am going to Colorado in October.

That's rough. This is your year for something. I would bet money that you draw a quality deer or a bull tag. What are you putting in for, MF Desert?


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Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: Elkstuffer on May 19, 2012, 11:53:52 AM
I never get to excited, 15 points for quality bull, bull, quality deer, goat, moose, antlerless moose, and sheep and I have never drawn a thing. That's 15 years of not drawing a thing. Good thing I am going to Colorado in October.

WOW SI! you have the luck of a goat! You should get an award for that. At least for your patience :chuckle:
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: 724wd on May 19, 2012, 05:36:22 PM
those applying for the blues, i hope you know someone with land!  access can be tough!   :yike:
Title: cashin in
Post by: slim9300 on May 19, 2012, 05:49:08 PM
those applying for the blues, i hope you know someone with land!  access can be tough!   :yike:

Lol.


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Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: SkookumHntr on May 19, 2012, 06:27:47 PM
18 for me last year and nada!
You must have got poacher points??

Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: trophyhunt on May 19, 2012, 06:54:16 PM
 :yeah:
I know of a guy with 36 points and couldnt draw a tag in the blues ......  :dunno:
:yeah:I also saw that a guy had 24 points and didn't draw in a unit that had 4 tags, a guy with 1 point drew one of those tags.  I have 17 points and have been trying for a blue's tag for many years.... I'm not expecting to draw chit again. If you look at the wdfw web site on harvest reports and find where they show how many guys applied with how many points and really study it, it's get pretty depressing when you have a lot of points. Don't get your hopes up just because you have a few points, like someone said already on this post- if you have 5 to7 points you should be excited. I think the quality tags should be for guys with 8 or more points. :twocents:
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: SI Eagle on May 20, 2012, 07:43:50 AM
I never get to excited, 15 points for quality bull, bull, quality deer, goat, moose, antlerless moose, and sheep and I have never drawn a thing. That's 15 years of not drawing a thing. Good thing I am going to Colorado in October.

That's rough. This is your year for something. I would bet money that you draw a quality deer or a bull tag. What are you putting in for, MF Desert?


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I do put in for the better elk and deer tags and I actually drew the Multiseason Elk tag (after 5 years) so that allowed me to put in for some eastern washington elk tags that I probably won't draw. Believe me, it is not patience it is a money thing at this point. I think I have spent so much money over the years that I have to keep putting in. I think if I ever draw one for a certain species I will check that one off and never put in again. Cheaper in the long haul to go deer hunting in Idaho then it is to continue to put in for permits here.
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: Maverick on May 20, 2012, 01:03:53 PM
I'm at 14 points and put in for the blues. My dad and uncle both have 17 points. They put in together for blues as well. No need to tell you guys which spots we put in for!
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: trophyhunt on May 20, 2012, 01:06:48 PM
I'm at 14 points and put in for the blues. My dad and uncle both have 17 points. They put in together for blues as well. No need to tell you guys which spots we put in for!
It wasn't the muzzy hunts I hope??? Not that I need to worry about guys with that many points, it's the guys with 4 up to 8 that worry me.
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: Elkrunner on May 21, 2012, 10:41:03 AM
I myself have subsided to the fact that I have crappy luck and wont draw.  It doesn't matter how many points I have.  I will still not be selected. 
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: 724wd on May 21, 2012, 12:21:59 PM
I myself have subsided to the fact that I have crappy luck and wont draw.  It doesn't matter how many points I have.  I will still not be selected.

it's not that you have bad luck... it's that the WDFW hates you!   :chuckle:  they never actually put your name in the hat!   :yike:
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: Elkrunner on May 21, 2012, 12:35:06 PM
I myself have subsided to the fact that I have crappy luck and wont draw.  It doesn't matter how many points I have.  I will still not be selected.

it's not that you have bad luck... it's that the WDFW hates you!   :chuckle:  they never actually put your name in the hat!   :yike:

Never dawned on me that I pissed them off with the nasty email I sent them a few years back.  I better bake some brownies and drop them off at the Olympia office.
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: 724wd on May 21, 2012, 06:31:55 PM
I myself have subsided to the fact that I have crappy luck and wont draw.  It doesn't matter how many points I have.  I will still not be selected.

it's not that you have bad luck... it's that the WDFW hates you!   :chuckle:  they never actually put your name in the hat!   :yike:

Never dawned on me that I pissed them off with the nasty email I sent them a few years back.  I better bake some brownies and drop them off at the Olympia office.

Brownies, huh?  with the tree-huggers running the show, they better be 'special' brownies!   :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: cashin in
Post by: iRem on May 21, 2012, 08:52:00 PM
I myself have subsided to the fact that I have crappy luck and wont draw.  It doesn't matter how many points I have.  I will still not be selected.

it's not that you have bad luck... it's that the WDFW hates you!   :chuckle:  they never actually put your name in the hat!   :yike:

Never dawned on me that I pissed them off with the nasty email I sent them a few years back.  I better bake some brownies and drop them off at the Olympia office.

Brownies, huh?  with the tree-huggers running the show, they better be 'special' brownies!   :chuckle: :chuckle:

X2........lol
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: Maverick on May 21, 2012, 09:51:24 PM
When do you think they'll come out with the drawing results?
Title: cashin in
Post by: iRem on May 22, 2012, 08:10:16 AM
When do you think they'll come out with the drawing results?
Probably June 15th, hoping for June8th!
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: lilredhead on May 22, 2012, 02:39:40 PM
When generally are the draw results out? After 14 years of not selected, I realized I never paid much attention... Probably forget after this season too  :chuckle:
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: Elkrunner on May 22, 2012, 02:41:37 PM
I myself have subsided to the fact that I have crappy luck and wont draw.  It doesn't matter how many points I have.  I will still not be selected.

it's not that you have bad luck... it's that the WDFW hates you!   :chuckle:  they never actually put your name in the hat!   :yike:

Never dawned on me that I pissed them off with the nasty email I sent them a few years back.  I better bake some brownies and drop them off at the Olympia office.

Brownies, huh?  with the tree-huggers running the show, they better be 'special' brownies!   :chuckle: :chuckle:

Definately magical and gluten free!
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: 400out on May 22, 2012, 02:59:28 PM
I know of a guy with 36 points and couldnt draw a tag in the blues ......  :dunno:
I hope he has three poacher cases to get them points or hes damn close to being farting dust on that hunt  ;)
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: dscubame on May 22, 2012, 03:02:22 PM
Spending some time hunting for poachers may not be a bad idea.  10 points could go a long ways.  And it would get a guy in the woods more often.
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: huntnnw on May 22, 2012, 06:19:11 PM
problem with people with a boat load of points is it means they are applying for hard to draw tags..example the Blues rifle bull tags it really dont matter how many points when there is 2 tags and 1,000+ apps  i would be applying for muzzy or archery tags
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: MuleySniper on May 22, 2012, 06:42:02 PM
Spending some time hunting for poachers may not be a bad idea.  10 points could go a long ways.  And it would get a guy in the woods more often.

I know its the right thing to do but honestly I don't think I will ever get wrapped up in that kind of fiasco ever again... Long story but basically caught guys red handed on private property with a cow elk in a 3pt only unit. Wasted almost a whole day dealing with WSP while trying to keep a close eye on the poachers. Long story short, don't expect squat for points from F&G unless the original suspect is CONVICTED of the crime. We all know how BS the court systems are these days. Just sayin. Not my first time reporting either. Another time witnessed a guy shoot a deer on Federal land with a long gun.... Turned out to be a WSP AND a big shot with Ducks Unlimited... Lets just say those guys take care of their own :bash:
MS
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: summit creek on May 22, 2012, 07:46:16 PM
off the grid but i only had 12 points last year 4 goat 4482 applied 1 tag i drew it and loved every day of it the second spot of my hunt 10 miles from my first spot in 4 days did not see one person lots of bulls and tons of goats
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: DeerThug on May 22, 2012, 10:02:20 PM
did you take a goat Pics???  dont remeber seeing them
Title: Re: cashin in
Post by: bucklucky on May 23, 2012, 07:02:14 AM
I know of a guy with 36 points and couldnt draw a tag in the blues ......  :dunno:
I hope he has three poacher cases to get them points or hes damn close to being farting dust on that hunt  ;)

I beleive it was 2 poacher cases and max points as it was last year and max last year was 16 with out poacher points. I dont know the guy just know of him.
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