Post by: BullMagnet76 on May 29, 2012, 04:07:19 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on May 29, 2012, 04:16:05 PM
Post by: Alaska316 on May 29, 2012, 04:39:44 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on May 29, 2012, 04:42:31 PM
Just cause you asked. They're going to make us wait another week. Just like what we do to our kids. :chuckle::chuckle: :chuckle: Yeah, I have a harder time sleeping before permit results come out, than I do before X-mas.
WDFW is like my version of Santa Claus. :yike:
Post by: coachcw on May 29, 2012, 04:44:29 PM
Post by: sled on May 29, 2012, 04:46:06 PM
Post by: BullMagnet76 on May 29, 2012, 04:55:12 PM
Just cause you asked. They're going to make us wait another week. Just like what we do to our kids. :chuckle:
I was asking other questions, nothing about the results.
Post by: Ridgerunner on May 29, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
Post by: SniperDanWA on May 29, 2012, 05:44:40 PM
Here I am wondering about the draw with selfish hopes and I just found out that my 18 year old niece looks to have Lymthoma . If that dosn't just put a damper on the antissipation ! please put her in your prayers .
Sorry to hear that coach. Yor family and niece have my prayers.
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on May 29, 2012, 06:31:24 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on May 29, 2012, 08:19:59 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on May 29, 2012, 08:22:34 PM
Don't care this year. Not excited about WA draw. Drew my Mule Deer rut tag in Colorado.
If you put in for the WA permits, you will probably get drawn this year. :chuckle:
Post by: 7mag. on May 29, 2012, 11:15:36 PM
Here I am wondering about the draw with selfish hopes and I just found out that my 18 year old niece looks to have Lymthoma . If that dosn't just put a damper on the antissipation ! please put her in your prayers .
I hear you Coach. I go in tomorrow to find out if I have it in my lungs. Good luck to your niece, 18 is too young.
Post by: coachcw on May 30, 2012, 06:32:17 AM
Post by: groundhog on May 30, 2012, 07:06:44 AM
Post by: 250savage on May 30, 2012, 07:20:05 AM
Post by: buckhorn2 on May 30, 2012, 07:24:07 AM
Post by: et1702 on May 30, 2012, 07:32:46 AM
Here I am wondering about the draw with selfish hopes and I just found out that my 18 year old niece looks to have Lymthoma . If that dosn't just put a damper on the antissipation ! please put her in your prayers .
Hey Coach, will definitely keep her in mind. My neice had luekemia when she was only 5yo. She is now a beautiful 24yo woman. Also, last September, my wife was diagnosed with stage IIIc Ovarian cancer. Had surgery in early Oct and she made it thru all the follow-up chemo treatments back in mid-march. Had her first checkup after six weeks and is still cancer free. If we can make it to the five year mark, chances are good that it won't be back. They have made several advances in the treatment of cancer and survival rates are much better than the historical statistics. Its hard on everyone involved when our loved ones have to go thru something like this.
Take care,
ET
Post by: rasbo on May 30, 2012, 07:33:16 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 30, 2012, 07:41:21 AM
Post by: coachcw on May 30, 2012, 07:48:22 AM
Post by: Bigshooter on May 30, 2012, 07:54:59 AM
Don't care this year. Not excited about WA draw. Drew my Mule Deer rut tag in Colorado.
What unit did you draw if you don't mind saying?
Post by: Woodchuck on May 30, 2012, 08:01:20 AM
Come on Colockum bull tag. :tup:
Post by: Bigshooter on May 30, 2012, 08:06:21 AM
Post by: JODakota on May 30, 2012, 08:23:51 AM
Coach and 7mag, that puts it in perspective for sure. Prayers to you and yours.
Come on Colockum bull tag. :tup:
Woodchuck you put in for Colockum?
Post by: 7mag. on May 30, 2012, 08:51:42 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on May 30, 2012, 08:56:04 AM
Best permit in the state. :tup:Coach and 7mag, that puts it in perspective for sure. Prayers to you and yours.
Come on Colockum bull tag. :tup:
Woodchuck you put in for Colockum?
Post by: NoBark on May 30, 2012, 09:10:27 AM
Here I am wondering about the draw with selfish hopes and I just found out that my 18 year old niece looks to have Lymthoma . If that dosn't just put a damper on the antissipation ! please put her in your prayers .
I hear you Coach. I go in tomorrow to find out if I have it in my lungs. Good luck to your niece, 18 is too young.
Hey Guys, I hope you are able to surrond yourselves with good supportive people. Keep the Hope, it's beatable! Tough times for sure, but there is hope! Having beat Cancer 4 tmes now, I can't say enough about those who come along side in these times. Gather them around you and let them help you beat it!
Post by: runamuk on May 30, 2012, 09:14:54 AM
Here I am wondering about the draw with selfish hopes and I just found out that my 18 year old niece looks to have Lymthoma . If that dosn't just put a damper on the antissipation ! please put her in your prayers .
I hear you Coach. I go in tomorrow to find out if I have it in my lungs. Good luck to your niece, 18 is too young.
Hey Guys, I hope you are able to surrond yourselves with good supportive people. Keep the Hope, it's beatable! Tough times for sure, but there is hope! Having beat Cancer 4 tmes now, I can't say enough about those who come along side in these times. Gather them around you and let them help you beat it!
sending good thoughts to both of you....so many people I know have battled cancer this last year...
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 30, 2012, 09:35:36 AM
Post by: sneakyjake on May 30, 2012, 10:05:30 AM
My wife spoke with a girl who was around 20 at the time and it helped her.
Post by: arrowflinger on May 30, 2012, 10:09:39 AM
Prayers sent gentlemen.:yeah:
14 of June at about 10am we will see the backdoor starting to change............then redraw :yike:
Post by: NRA4LIFE on May 30, 2012, 11:25:53 AM
Post by: CP on May 30, 2012, 11:48:45 AM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on May 30, 2012, 11:49:47 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 30, 2012, 12:01:38 PM
I expect to draw a Nooksack WM “any bull” permit with 1 point because I have no idea where Nooksack is or how to hunt it. I’ll have lots of questions for everyone after I draw it.ill help you out cp.
Post by: CP on May 30, 2012, 12:16:40 PM
I expect to draw a Nooksack WM “any bull” permit with 1 point because I have no idea where Nooksack is or how to hunt it. I’ll have lots of questions for everyone after I draw it.ill help you out cp.
Thanks, I’ll be looking you up when my permit comes in. :hello:
Post by: KimberRich on May 30, 2012, 12:39:52 PM
I am looking SOOOOO forward to not drawing anything for the 9th year in a row. I'm just hoping to draw some kind of permit before I die.
Well said. Hahahah.
Post by: SniperDanWA on May 30, 2012, 06:27:14 PM
I've got you in my prayers.
Post by: furbearer365 on May 30, 2012, 06:43:17 PM
Here I am wondering about the draw with selfish hopes and I just found out that my 18 year old niece looks to have Lymthoma . If that dosn't just put a damper on the antissipation ! please put her in your prayers .
I know exactly how you feel. Found out not long ago that my cousins youngest (i believe he is eight) just got diagnosed with a form of cancer and suffered a stroke last week. Also in the testing for the stroke they were able to find blood clots on his brain. It is never good to have things like this happen but it makes it that much harder when it is a kid. No child deserves this, they should be worrying about sports and friends, not being sick.
Post by: 7mag. on May 30, 2012, 09:53:33 PM
Sorry to thread jack, it fells good to talk about it, I am trying to be strong for my family, who are taking it way harder than I am.
Now, back to the drawing results. I drew a White River bull tag last year and had a blast. I am hoping for a Naches any bull tag, or a goat or sheep tag this year. If any body draws White River, let me know. I grew up hunting that unit and spent over 30 days scouting it last year, and hunted it every day of the season. I was one of the only people that drew, that filled my tag. Good luck every one.
Post by: coachcw on May 31, 2012, 06:44:02 AM
Post by: buckhorn2 on May 31, 2012, 06:49:18 AM
Post by: JODakota on May 31, 2012, 08:07:38 AM
Post by: NoBark on May 31, 2012, 09:36:17 AM
Post by: iRem on May 31, 2012, 09:54:33 AM
Post by: fishseeker on May 31, 2012, 01:19:41 PM
Post by: dblungshot on May 31, 2012, 01:25:23 PM
Post by: coachcw on May 31, 2012, 02:41:49 PM
Post by: 7mag. on May 31, 2012, 09:49:44 PM
Fishseeker if you draw let us know if you draw and Someone will give you a hand ;)
Just let us know, we will make it work out somehow. There are a lot of great people on this site.
Post by: coachcw on June 01, 2012, 10:02:12 AM
Post by: Bigluke1981 on June 01, 2012, 10:11:58 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on June 01, 2012, 10:18:23 AM
Post by: coachcw on June 01, 2012, 01:23:48 PM
Post by: JODakota on June 01, 2012, 01:26:29 PM
Post by: runamuk on June 01, 2012, 01:30:39 PM
I will add her to our prayer circle
Post by: 7mag. on June 01, 2012, 01:35:59 PM
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on June 01, 2012, 05:05:36 PM
Yeah i am sure i will draw this year. I have 14 points and i partnered up with my son for cow tags. So i threw 2 quality units in there if i draw i will be hunting in the rut with my rifle. Mt. Adams, or Quinalt. I will need help if i draw also. Figure i might because i am going out of the state hunting in Nov.
Post by: SniperDanWA on June 01, 2012, 05:46:12 PM
Post by: fishseeker on June 02, 2012, 09:09:49 AM
Post by: fishseeker on June 02, 2012, 09:12:12 AM
Post by: scottfrick on June 02, 2012, 09:14:13 AM
Thanks every one for your support. Luckily I have lots of very supportive family and friends like you guys. Strangely enough, I'm not worried, I don't see what worrying gets you, you can't change it. Besides, I'm optimistic, it could be one of 3 things, one of them being Lymphoma, or Sarcoidosis, or some rare infection. I don't think it will be Lymphoma, and even if it is, I won't let it slow me down. I told my doctor today, that I am going on a backpack high hunt this September, so he better figure out how to make me healthy enough. I get the results of my biopsy on Monday, and I'm not concerned. The Marines taught me to adapt and over come, so I try and live my life like that as much as I can.
Sorry to thread jack, it fells good to talk about it, I am trying to be strong for my family, who are taking it way harder than I am.
Now, back to the drawing results. I drew a White River bull tag last year and had a blast. I am hoping for a Naches any bull tag, or a goat or sheep tag this year. If any body draws White River, let me know. I grew up hunting that unit and spent over 30 days scouting it last year, and hunted it every day of the season. I was one of the only people that drew, that filled my tag. Good luck every one.
Hope all the best for you 7mag. Do you have any pics of the bull you got last year in the white river unit??
Post by: 7mag. on June 02, 2012, 09:51:40 AM
Thanks every one for your support. Luckily I have lots of very supportive family and friends like you guys. Strangely enough, I'm not worried, I don't see what worrying gets you, you can't change it. Besides, I'm optimistic, it could be one of 3 things, one of them being Lymphoma, or Sarcoidosis, or some rare infection. I don't think it will be Lymphoma, and even if it is, I won't let it slow me down. I told my doctor today, that I am going on a backpack high hunt this September, so he better figure out how to make me healthy enough. I get the results of my biopsy on Monday, and I'm not concerned. The Marines taught me to adapt and over come, so I try and live my life like that as much as I can.
Sorry to thread jack, it fells good to talk about it, I am trying to be strong for my family, who are taking it way harder than I am.
Now, back to the drawing results. I drew a White River bull tag last year and had a blast. I am hoping for a Naches any bull tag, or a goat or sheep tag this year. If any body draws White River, let me know. I grew up hunting that unit and spent over 30 days scouting it last year, and hunted it every day of the season. I was one of the only people that drew, that filled my tag. Good luck every one.
Hope all the best for you 7mag. Do you have any pics of the bull you got last year in the white river unit??
Just a crappy cell phone pic. He wasn't very big, not one of the bulls I had been scouting. Just so happened that all the big bulls I had been wathcing vanished a couple of days before the season. I got in to elk the every day, but nothing big enough to shoot. This guy happened to be 150 yard off the road while I was traveling to a different spot in the middel of the day. It's not often you have the chance to get an elk out whole, so I shot him. He was a 4 pt. with a couple broken G2's.
Post by: jstone on June 02, 2012, 01:12:59 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on June 02, 2012, 06:13:44 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on June 02, 2012, 07:07:27 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 02, 2012, 07:16:23 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 02, 2012, 10:54:55 PM
Post by: shoot-em-dead on June 02, 2012, 11:07:40 PM
Post by: runamuk on June 02, 2012, 11:09:07 PM
I couldn't vote- there isn't a place for those of us who "wish they had the extra cash to put in but didn't, so we don't give a rip because the thought of being in on the fun is like being stuck with another thorn" :chuckle: :chuckle:x2 :yeah:
Post by: bobcat on June 02, 2012, 11:20:43 PM
Haven't the backdoors usually come up on Thursday nights? :dunno: I voted the 14th.
Last year it was on a Tuesday afternoon (the 14th), around 1:00. The official results came up about 2 hours later.
Post by: Angus on June 02, 2012, 11:21:53 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on June 03, 2012, 06:45:45 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on June 03, 2012, 06:50:52 PM
Post by: huntnphool on June 03, 2012, 07:03:41 PM
I'll say it again, the 15th.
That was my vote. :tup:
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 03, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
Post by: dreamingbig on June 04, 2012, 08:14:56 AM
Post by: turbo on June 04, 2012, 09:57:35 AM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on June 04, 2012, 01:13:36 PM
They have to count the massive piles of money first...
I wondered why it took so long!
Post by: Griz231 on June 04, 2012, 01:24:33 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 04, 2012, 02:18:39 PM
Post by: smdave on June 04, 2012, 02:22:56 PM
Post by: 7mag. on June 04, 2012, 05:38:23 PM
Post by: runamuk on June 04, 2012, 05:40:44 PM
I can't wait for the drawing results. I just got home from the Dr., and I don't have cancer. I have a disease called Sarcoidosis. Treatable, and possibly curable. Now I feel lucky.....bring on the drawing results!
this is excellent news :tup:
Post by: scottfrick on June 04, 2012, 05:41:58 PM
I can't wait for the drawing results. I just got home from the Dr., and I don't have cancer. I have a disease called Sarcoidosis. Treatable, and possibly curable. Now I feel lucky.....bring on the drawing results!Great to hear man!!!! That is very good news :tup:
Post by: Griz231 on June 04, 2012, 05:48:12 PM
I can't wait for the drawing results. I just got home from the Dr., and I don't have cancer. I have a disease called Sarcoidosis. Treatable, and possibly curable. Now I feel lucky.....bring on the drawing results!
That's awesome!
I had similar deal back in Feb.. Reason for my absence on the site. Ended up with a canerous tumor on my stomach and they took a 12 inch by 3 inch section out of me. Nasty scar but got all the cancer. I'm finally able to shoot my bow last weekend!
Post by: 7mag. on June 04, 2012, 05:56:51 PM
I can't wait for the drawing results. I just got home from the Dr., and I don't have cancer. I have a disease called Sarcoidosis. Treatable, and possibly curable. Now I feel lucky.....bring on the drawing results!
That's awesome!
I had similar deal back in Feb.. Reason for my absence on the site. Ended up with a canerous tumor on my stomach and they took a 12 inch by 3 inch section out of me. Nasty scar but got all the cancer. I'm finally able to shoot my bow last weekend!
Great! Plenty of time to get ready for the season. Congrats!
Post by: SniperDanWA on June 04, 2012, 06:45:29 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on June 04, 2012, 07:22:55 PM
Post by: iRem on June 04, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
Post by: Rainstorm Hunter on June 04, 2012, 09:03:34 PM
Post by: Bigluke1981 on June 04, 2012, 09:41:48 PM
I can't wait for the drawing results. I just got home from the Dr., and I don't have cancer. I have a disease called Sarcoidosis. Treatable, and possibly curable. Now I feel lucky.....bring on the drawing results!That is awesome news :tup: :tup:
Post by: huntnnw on June 04, 2012, 10:31:00 PM
Why can't they been done this Friday!! Some one please explain why not this Friday? I CAN NOT WAIT ANY LONGER! I am expecting to draw this year....... My dream will come true
no kidding with the technology we have today its not acceptable the day after drawing to hit a button and be done!
Post by: Lightning_Rider on June 05, 2012, 02:43:01 PM
Post by: brianb231 on June 05, 2012, 02:46:25 PM
How many days til Christmas Morning again????
Post by: Lightning_Rider on June 05, 2012, 03:03:24 PM
Post by: C-Money on June 05, 2012, 03:19:12 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 05, 2012, 03:40:15 PM
I saw that the forum was down a bit ago and IMMEDIATLEY went to check the results and....................................................................NOTHING! :bash:
How many days til Christmas Morning again????
7...I think... ;)
Post by: Gringo31 on June 05, 2012, 04:17:22 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 05, 2012, 04:58:09 PM
Post by: HoofsandWings on June 05, 2012, 05:11:20 PM
I drew goat, sheep and moose in 6 years. I still put in for desert deer with lots of points, also elk. Waiting for results is fun.
There is nothing much to hunt this time of year. The lakes I fish are still ice covered. My wife has a 2 page honey do list.
Then there are the raffles. They are fun too.
Post by: C-Money on June 05, 2012, 05:16:16 PM
Post by: brianb231 on June 05, 2012, 05:32:21 PM
There are few things as an adult that give you this much anticipation in life. I love it!! :IBCOOL:
Boy I hope I dont draw both my Sheep AND my goat tag this year! :yike:
Post by: sidehil on June 05, 2012, 06:18:12 PM
Post by: sidehil on June 05, 2012, 06:22:41 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 05, 2012, 06:28:07 PM
Why would you feel "dirty?" I've been paying money for the chance of drawing special hunts since about 1988. That's 24 years. I have never once regretted it. Have drawn some pretty good hunts too so it's been well worth it.He's just commenting on how much they rape us now on the prices, I think we have some pretty incredible hunts in our state. It's just the fact that because we are residents I think most of us feel it's getting a little bit expensive to put in for the special hunts. I think bobcat works for fish and game because of the support he continually gives them...??? :chuckle: It's all good bobcat, just giving you crap.
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on June 05, 2012, 06:39:51 PM
Post by: SI Eagle on June 05, 2012, 07:22:00 PM
:yeah:
I drew goat, sheep and moose in 6 years. I still put in for desert deer with lots of points, also elk. Waiting for results is fun.
There is nothing much to hunt this time of year. The lakes I fish are still ice covered. My wife has a 2 page honey do list.
Then there are the raffles. They are fun too.
WOW! 6 years! I have 15 points for everything and I can't even draw a decent deer tag. That is what I hate about our system. All I would ever like is one decent tag.
Post by: bobcat on June 05, 2012, 07:23:06 PM
Why would you feel "dirty?" I've been paying money for the chance of drawing special hunts since about 1988. That's 24 years. I have never once regretted it. Have drawn some pretty good hunts too so it's been well worth it.He's just commenting on how much they rape us now on the prices, I think we have some pretty incredible hunts in our state. It's just the fact that because we are residents I think most of us feel it's getting a little bit expensive to put in for the special hunts. I think bobcat works for fish and game because of the support he continually gives them...??? :chuckle: It's all good bobcat, just giving you crap.
No I've got my complaints too, with the DFW, but I'm sure not going to complain about something that I buy that is totally voluntary. If I wanted to hunt for cheap I'd buy a deer tag and nothing else. I complained plenty when they came up with all the ridiculous new categories two years ago. That is still my biggest gripe I've got with the DFW. But, some hunters actually like the extra categories. :o
Post by: Bigshooter on June 05, 2012, 07:45:38 PM
Post by: Griz231 on June 05, 2012, 08:05:37 PM
Post by: jackelope on June 05, 2012, 08:09:14 PM
Took me eight years to finally get a bull permit. Hoping for deer this year! I haven't researched it but does anyone know how many applicants there were for multi deer permits this year? I drew two years in a row and feel like everyone that applied got one.
Based on the last couple years they allowed more permits than they had applicants so the way you feel is logical.
Post by: trophyhunt on June 05, 2012, 08:40:21 PM
I also hate the new system, can't wait to see what's next!!Why would you feel "dirty?" I've been paying money for the chance of drawing special hunts since about 1988. That's 24 years. I have never once regretted it. Have drawn some pretty good hunts too so it's been well worth it.He's just commenting on how much they rape us now on the prices, I think we have some pretty incredible hunts in our state. It's just the fact that because we are residents I think most of us feel it's getting a little bit expensive to put in for the special hunts. I think bobcat works for fish and game because of the support he continually gives them...??? :chuckle: It's all good bobcat, just giving you crap.
No I've got my complaints too, with the DFW, but I'm sure not going to complain about something that I buy that is totally voluntary. If I wanted to hunt for cheap I'd buy a deer tag and nothing else. I complained plenty when they came up with all the ridiculous new categories two years ago. That is still my biggest gripe I've got with the DFW. But, some hunters actually like the extra categories. :o
Post by: huntnphool on June 05, 2012, 08:50:28 PM
:tup:He's just commenting on how much they rape us now on the prices, I think we have some pretty incredible hunts in our state.Quote from: link=topic=98495.msg1282879#msg1282879 date=1338940689
Post by: iRem on June 06, 2012, 07:52:10 AM
See, that's why we put in for the draw!! Thanks for the reminder!! Nice mass and curl!!:tup:He's just commenting on how much they rape us now on the prices, I think we have some pretty incredible hunts in our state.Quote from: link=topic=98495.msg1282879#msg1282879 date=1338940689
Post by: brianb231 on June 06, 2012, 08:06:36 AM
dont worry your asking way to much :sry:
That statement was made with just a we bit of sarcasm....LOL
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 06, 2012, 09:45:31 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 06, 2012, 10:04:33 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on June 06, 2012, 10:18:04 AM
Post by: Curly on June 06, 2012, 10:40:59 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 06, 2012, 11:54:42 AM
Post by: jstone on June 06, 2012, 12:14:48 PM
Post by: Elkrunner on June 06, 2012, 02:39:26 PM
Yeah, can't draw anything with 0 points. If you have 0 points, it means you didn't apply. If you apply you have a point.
good point on the point! LOL
Post by: iRem on June 06, 2012, 03:28:05 PM
My computer is having issues. Says draw not run yet? Am I dreamingI'm having the same problem!
Post by: Woodchuck on June 06, 2012, 03:34:33 PM
Post by: jstone on June 06, 2012, 03:59:27 PM
Post by: coachcw on June 07, 2012, 08:57:34 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on June 07, 2012, 08:59:15 AM
Post by: iRem on June 07, 2012, 09:05:57 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 07, 2012, 09:37:17 AM
Post by: HUNT on June 07, 2012, 09:47:09 AM
in the future they might have a percentage of the tags given out only to those with max points. Like for example, if a unit has 10 quality tags 7 would only go to those who have max points, or some kind of percentage. I think that would be a good idea and yes even after I draw and have 1 point.
If they changed it to where 70% of the tags went to max points, there would be a mass exodus of people would drop out of the point system. And what hope would that give to young hunters just starting the points game. The way it is now at least there is a chance for them. We don't need to create more ways to discourage people from the sport of hunting. People with few points are already discouraged enough. I could go along with 10 or 20% of the tags to max points holders, but not more than that.
I know the 70% was just an example - at least I hope it was.
Post by: grundy53 on June 07, 2012, 09:55:22 AM
trophyhunt starts this argument every year like clock work. I really hope he draws this year... :chuckle:in the future they might have a percentage of the tags given out only to those with max points. Like for example, if a unit has 10 quality tags 7 would only go to those who have max points, or some kind of percentage. I think that would be a good idea and yes even after I draw and have 1 point.
If they changed it to where 70% of the tags went to max points, there would be a mass exodus of people would drop out of the point system. And what hope would that give to young hunters just starting the points game. The way it is now at least there is a chance for them. We don't need to create more ways to discourage people from the sport of hunting. People with few points are already discouraged enough. I could go along with 10 or 20% of the tags to max points holders, but not more than that.
I know the 70% was just an example - at least I hope it was.
Post by: the509hunter on June 07, 2012, 10:12:20 AM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on June 07, 2012, 10:17:37 AM
ok guys im wanting to know how to check if i got drawn i know they arent out yet but i would like to know cause my grandma is having them sent to her email and she hardly checks it. thanks in advance.
Here is the backdoor....
https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/WA/Specialhuntlookup/Custsearch
Post by: bucklucky on June 07, 2012, 10:23:21 AM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on June 07, 2012, 10:31:19 AM
If they change the draws in washington I know of a ton of people that would quit applying because they do not have max points. Id quit applying for everyting actually since I have no max points at all. Im sure they would lose some seriouse dough if they did that. I got 10 for all my oil tags , 12 for deer . Id have no chance if 70 % Went to max. But in all reality I would really care less and hunt out of state since it isnt that much more to go out of state for way better hunting than what is here in this dump of a state.
:yeah: x2
Post by: SkookumHntr on June 07, 2012, 10:41:22 AM
Post by: iRem on June 07, 2012, 10:42:52 AM
Post by: bucksandbulls on June 07, 2012, 10:45:13 AM
Post by: arrowflinger on June 07, 2012, 10:46:56 AM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on June 07, 2012, 11:03:30 AM
If they went 50% 10pts & up, 50% random, the system would start to get good! Leave it like it is and more then likeally you will never draw a tag with horns in this state in your lifetime..
Change it to something similar to what you propose and our kids will never draw a tag in this state. That’ll be the end of hunting.
My kids will never have a chance at any top units in Oregon because of their draw system.
Post by: bucklucky on June 07, 2012, 11:07:54 AM
I respectfully disagree with every ones comments about how horrible this State is and how it's a dump! This is my state of residents and I respect every aspect about it. I do not respect those that make decisions for us that makes no sense at all! The problem with the decisions that they make is that its not transparent! If it was we would all see the flaws that are written! The states not a dump, the hunting is great in the State of Washington and we all need to respect the land/animals and we can respectfully disagree with those in charge and let them know why we do!!
No really this state is a dump literally. Ive never seen more garbage spread out all over the damn place. Heck I went to Idaho and montana 2 weekends ago and never seen a pile of garbage. This state is a dump and ran by some seriouse idiots.
Post by: Austrian Hunter on June 07, 2012, 11:28:13 AM
I respectfully disagree with every ones comments about how horrible this State is and how it's a dump! This is my state of residents and I respect every aspect about it. I do not respect those that make decisions for us that makes no sense at all! The problem with the decisions that they make is that its not transparent! If it was we would all see the flaws that are written! The states not a dump, the hunting is great in the State of Washington and we all need to respect the land/animals and we can respectfully disagree with those in charge and let them know why we do!!
No really this state is a dump literally. Ive never seen more garbage spread out all over the damn place. Heck I went to Idaho and montana 2 weekends ago and never seen a pile of garbage. This state is a dump and ran by some seriouse idiots.
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :yeah:
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on June 07, 2012, 11:43:59 AM
Post by: SkookumHntr on June 07, 2012, 11:46:01 AM
You kidding me?? I was one of those 9 year old kids dreaming of a Bull tag!! Look what I have to show with this system! Zip! Was it the end of hunting for me, Hell no! Doesnt Oregon have a % of permits that go Random draw for every tag??If they went 50% 10pts & up, 50% random, the system would start to get good! Leave it like it is and more then likeally you will never draw a tag with horns in this state in your lifetime..
Change it to something similar to what you propose and our kids will never draw a tag in this state. That’ll be the end of hunting.
My kids will never have a chance at any top units in Oregon because of their draw system.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 07, 2012, 11:54:35 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 07, 2012, 11:57:16 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 07, 2012, 12:04:34 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 07, 2012, 12:24:22 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on June 07, 2012, 12:30:40 PM
Post by: grundy53 on June 07, 2012, 12:33:22 PM
I still say drop the point system all together then there will be no more crying. It would be a free for all for everyone :chuckle: At least with out point system if you got a chit load of points your odds are way better . What is not fair about that? I guess the problem is that people think they are entitled to a good tag but . Looking at it that way is crap. I have always looked at the draws as a bonus. If I get drawn hell yeah. If not well Im still hunting.:yeah: I hate the sense of entitlement. That's what's wrong with our country.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 07, 2012, 12:49:48 PM
Post by: Antlershed on June 07, 2012, 12:52:58 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 07, 2012, 01:05:31 PM
Post by: grundy53 on June 07, 2012, 01:09:38 PM
If you think your odds go WAY up with points, I don't think you've done the math completely. Odds if you have 1 point are about 0.001 percent (this is in general and not specific to one hunt) and if you have 17 points my odds go up to about 1.4 or around that. I used to know the odds better but through the years I try to block it all out, don't want grundy to hear me complain too much :chuckle:. You can tell the odds don't really improve much when you have a ton of points, the obvious reason is more guys have the 4 to 8 points in the draw then those with quite a bit more. By the way grundy, I haven't even started complaining yet.... just wait till I'm sitting on 26 points without catching a poacher and still not getting drawn!!!!!!!!!! :chuckle::bash: :bash: That's when the real complaining starts. :chuckle::chuckle:
Post by: huntnphool on June 07, 2012, 01:20:49 PM
All this boils down to is guys drawing one more time and dropping out, never applying again. Now on the hunter side of things you are happy to be thinning the competition but from the revenue side of it you can see the $$$ dropping off pretty damn quick, a catch 22 for the dept. for sure.
Post by: slim9300 on June 07, 2012, 01:22:06 PM
When he is 10 huh, might think about 15.
Lol. My sister had just turned 10 in the picture below when she killed this buck at 40 yards spot and stalk with her rifle (in WA). It was easily the greatest moment of my hunting career being right there over her shoulder and seeing her reaction. She loves to hunt and asks to shoot her bow whenever she can. This same year (2011) she killed her first elk right before her 10th birthday.
Why don't you save your advice for your own family and let others makes their own decisions. ;)
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Post by: Antlershed on June 07, 2012, 01:26:50 PM
If you think your odds go WAY up with points, I don't think you've done the math completely. Odds if you have 1 point are about 0.001 percent (this is in general and not specific to one hunt) and if you have 17 points my odds go up to about 1.4 or around that. I used to know the odds better but through the years I try to block it all out, don't want grundy to hear me complain too much :chuckle:. You can tell the odds don't really improve much when you have a ton of points, the obvious reason is more guys have the 4 to 8 points in the draw then those with quite a bit more. By the way grundy, I haven't even started complaining yet.... just wait till I'm sitting on 26 points without catching a poacher and still not getting drawn!!!!!!!!!! :bash: :bash: That's when the real complaining starts. :chuckle:That's increasing your odds 1400 times. I would consider that way up :chuckle:
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 07, 2012, 01:44:07 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on June 07, 2012, 01:58:52 PM
I still say drop the point system all together then there will be no more crying. It would be a free for all for everyone :chuckle: At least with out point system if you got a chit load of points your odds are way better . What is not fair about that? I guess the problem is that people think they are entitled to a good tag but . Looking at it that way is crap. I have always looked at the draws as a bonus. If I get drawn hell yeah. If not well Im still hunting.
I agree. All the guys complaining (about what i consider the fairest point system there is) where does it says just because you apply you will get a tag in your life?
Post by: huntnphool on June 07, 2012, 02:06:05 PM
I still say drop the point system all together then there will be no more crying. It would be a free for all for everyone :chuckle: At least with out point system if you got a chit load of points your odds are way better . What is not fair about that? I guess the problem is that people think they are entitled to a good tag but . Looking at it that way is crap. I have always looked at the draws as a bonus. If I get drawn hell yeah. If not well Im still hunting.
I agree. All the guys complaining (about what i consider the fairest point system there is) where does it says just because you apply you will get a tag in your life?
:yeah:
Post by: Curly on June 07, 2012, 02:14:24 PM
I still say drop the point system all together then there will be no more crying. It would be a free for all for everyone :chuckle: At least with out point system if you got a chit load of points your odds are way better . What is not fair about that? I guess the problem is that people think they are entitled to a good tag but . Looking at it that way is crap. I have always looked at the draws as a bonus. If I get drawn hell yeah. If not well Im still hunting.
I agree. All the guys complaining (about what i consider the fairest point system there is) where does it says just because you apply you will get a tag in your life?
:yeah:
:yeah:
Post by: grundy53 on June 07, 2012, 02:17:49 PM
When he is 10 huh, might think about 15.
Lol. My sister had just turned 10 in the picture below when she killed this buck at 40 yards spot and stalk with her rifle (in WA). It was easily the greatest moment of my hunting career being right there over her shoulder and seeing her reaction. She loves to hunt and asks to shoot her bow whenever she can. This same year (2011) she killed her first elk right before her 10th birthday.
Why don't you save your advice for your own family and let others makes their own decisions. ;)
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Unfortunately Wyoming made the decision not Huntnphool. You can't hunt there until you are 12 and you can't even put in until you are 11 and that is only if you will be 12 by the time the season opens.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 07, 2012, 02:51:31 PM
I agree with doing away with the points system. Do it like ID with straight up draws. OR and AZ aren't even worth applying for now because the odds are so stacked against someone who hasn't already been doing it that it's just a waste of money. Montana and Wyoming are in a different category because they have more game than they do hunters, they get to play by different rules. Points only work well if you can "clean out" the max point pool by a significant number every year.
Post by: Austrian Hunter on June 07, 2012, 03:10:47 PM
Post by: kirkl on June 07, 2012, 03:55:51 PM
Post by: madmack76 on June 07, 2012, 04:01:36 PM
Post by: buckhorn2 on June 07, 2012, 04:23:00 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 07, 2012, 04:36:57 PM
I think WDFW have figured out the revenue hit they are going to take here in the near future with guys like me. There are a lot of hunters in this state in the 45-55 year old range sitting on 10+ points each. What we are looking at is the odds of ever drawing another quality tag once we have drawn and start back over at zero. I seriously doubt I will draw this year for "quality" deer or elk, but assuming I did, next year I would be back at zero. Now, if I started applying again, odds are that I would have to apply for at least those 10 years again, I'm betting by then it would be even longer, closer to 15 before getting another chance. This would put me in my 60's, and although I know a lot of guys hunting at that age, they are certainly not putting in the miles and elevation changes I do right now, how much of a "quality" hunt is it really going to be, and thats assuming I do draw in that time and am still vertical.Bingo, I will not play the wait game after I zero out. I will be one less person in the draws after all this waiting is over, it's not that I don't hunt my butt off even when I don't draw. But waiting to get the quality tag has put off hunting archery or muzzy on the west side looking for big bulls every year. They will loose some of my money, but doubt they will miss it. I agree with you 100% on that's what is going to happen, I've talked to a lot of fellow hunters that have said the same thing. They are done!
All this boils down to is guys drawing one more time and dropping out, never applying again. Now on the hunter side of things you are happy to be thinning the competition but from the revenue side of it you can see the $$$ dropping off pretty damn quick, a catch 22 for the dept. for sure.
Post by: slim9300 on June 07, 2012, 05:23:14 PM
When he is 10 huh, might think about 15.
Lol. My sister had just turned 10 in the picture below when she killed this buck at 40 yards spot and stalk with her rifle (in WA). It was easily the greatest moment of my hunting career being right there over her shoulder and seeing her reaction. She loves to hunt and asks to shoot her bow whenever she can. This same year (2011) she killed her first elk right before her 10th birthday.
Why don't you save your advice for your own family and let others makes their own decisions. ;)
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Unfortunately Wyoming made the decision not Huntnphool. You can't hunt there until you are 12 and you can't even put in until you are 11 and that is only if you will be 12 by the time the season opens.
Re-read the post I responded to. It didn't say 12 years old now did it? He wasn't referring to any law limiting age, he trying to influence a decision that he had no business being involved in. My response was directed at his general attitude, not his prior conversation.
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Post by: Lightning_Rider on June 07, 2012, 05:25:35 PM
Im sure most of you have look at this (2011 points used by permit categories)...Theres a guy in there that applied with 36points and didnt get drawn :(
Post by: bobcat on June 07, 2012, 05:32:09 PM
If you never want to draw, keep applying for those hunts that have 1 permit, and 3,000 applicants every year.
Post by: bucklucky on June 07, 2012, 05:32:47 PM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2011.php (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2011.php)
Im sure most of you have look at this (2011 points used by permit categories)...Theres a guy in there that applied with 36points and didnt get drawn :(
I know but thats how it goes when your putting in for some of the most popular hunts in the state ... they are not a given for sure.
Post by: Lightning_Rider on June 07, 2012, 05:36:42 PM
Post by: washelkhntr on June 07, 2012, 05:38:07 PM
Im confused, how does someone have 36 points for quality elk? Poacher points????
:dunno:
Post by: slim9300 on June 07, 2012, 05:43:18 PM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2011.php
Im confused, how does someone have 36 points for quality elk? Poacher points????
:dunno:
Yes.
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Post by: willapawapiti on June 07, 2012, 06:01:12 PM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 07, 2012, 06:12:14 PM
Post by: muzzlebuck on June 07, 2012, 06:21:44 PM
Post by: ihunt on June 07, 2012, 06:53:45 PM
Post by: sled on June 07, 2012, 06:58:42 PM
Backdoor should be up fri june 8
:chuckle: that would be nice but? We will see.
Post by: Bigshooter on June 07, 2012, 07:02:40 PM
Looking at the just the quality Colockum rifle tags they are once in a life time.
#2018 - 5 tags with 1608 applicants = 322 years for everyone to draw once.
#2019 - 1 tag with 1352 applicants = 1352 years for everyone to draw once.
:yike:
People don't understand that. They think because they have been putting in for 10+ years they should draw a tag. Unfortunately thats just not the way it works. To many people and not enough tags for all of us to draw a tag.
Post by: Brandobando on June 07, 2012, 07:24:16 PM
Post by: iRem on June 07, 2012, 07:29:46 PM
Can someone explain what back door results are?Same as the front door!
Post by: trophyhunt on June 07, 2012, 07:38:19 PM
Backdoor should be up fri june 8I bet you a pitcher of beer and an appetizer at the bonney lake tavern that it won't be up June 8th????? :)
Post by: ihunt on June 07, 2012, 07:49:53 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 07, 2012, 07:53:28 PM
Post by: ihunt on June 07, 2012, 07:57:23 PM
Post by: d_wilson on June 07, 2012, 07:58:46 PM
He has sat in the last 5 years on the draw.Do they always post results the day he sits in?
Post by: trophyhunt on June 07, 2012, 07:59:43 PM
:yeah:Last year did he sit in on the 14th?He has sat in the last 5 years on the draw.Do they always post results the day he sits in?
Post by: ihunt on June 07, 2012, 08:01:57 PM
Post by: Rainstorm Hunter on June 07, 2012, 08:22:32 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on June 07, 2012, 08:23:02 PM
Can someone explain what back door results are?
The backdoor results are here:
https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhunt (https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhunt)
In the past you could find out if you drew a permit a day or two before the official results were out. Last year it was a few hours. It doesn't let you know which specific permit you have though.
Frontdoor is the regular check from the WDFW site:
https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhuntlookup (https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhuntlookup)
Post by: bobcat on June 07, 2012, 08:30:38 PM
Can someone explain what back door results are?
The backdoor results are here:
https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhunt (https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhunt)
In the past you could find out if you drew a permit a day or two before the official results were out. Last year it was a few hours. It doesn't let you know which specific permit you have though.
Frontdoor is the regular check from the WDFW site:
https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhuntlookup (https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhuntlookup)
:yeah: I'm not sure why I keep reading posts in which people are saying the back door and front door are the same. We call it the back door for a reason. What you may see there are not the official results.
Post by: TheHunt on June 07, 2012, 08:36:19 PM
Makes me wonder if we are talking about dating inside a prison... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: iRem on June 07, 2012, 08:48:23 PM
Makes me wonder if we are talking about dating inside a prison... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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WOW!
Post by: huntnphool on June 07, 2012, 08:49:31 PM
Looking at the just the quality Colockum rifle tags they are once in a life time.
#2018 - 5 tags with 1608 applicants = 322 years for everyone to draw once.
#2019 - 1 tag with 1352 applicants = 1352 years for everyone to draw once.
Unless you have rafflemule's luck and draw them back to back years. :chuckle:
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 08, 2012, 06:08:46 AM
Post by: coachcw on June 08, 2012, 06:40:57 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on June 08, 2012, 06:49:36 AM
:yeah:Looking at the just the quality Colockum rifle tags they are once in a life time.
#2018 - 5 tags with 1608 applicants = 322 years for everyone to draw once.
#2019 - 1 tag with 1352 applicants = 1352 years for everyone to draw once.
Unless you have rafflemule's luck and draw them back to back years. :chuckle:
I wonder if I could give him money and have him put in for me. :chuckle:
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on June 08, 2012, 09:39:24 AM
Post by: KopperBuck on June 08, 2012, 09:48:26 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 08, 2012, 10:06:54 AM
bonney lake to far for me but a Friend is sitting in on the draw fri june 8. so we should know something tomorrow if every thing goes smooth.
What did your buddy say? Call him. let us know....You don't want your hunt wa credibility ruined do ya? :chuckle:
Post by: muzzlebuck on June 08, 2012, 10:43:37 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on June 08, 2012, 11:23:23 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 08, 2012, 11:36:30 AM
Post by: KopperBuck on June 08, 2012, 11:52:09 AM
Post by: washelkhunter on June 08, 2012, 11:56:58 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 08, 2012, 11:58:00 AM
Post by: Cascade on June 08, 2012, 12:01:52 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on June 08, 2012, 12:33:59 PM
Post by: rb2506 on June 08, 2012, 12:43:28 PM
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Post by: Heavily Armed Hiker on June 08, 2012, 01:04:34 PM
Post by: buglebuster on June 08, 2012, 01:12:16 PM
Last year it was posted on the backdoor at 9am and the year before that it was at 4:30pm so it could be at anytime during the day when they decide to post.Do you remember the dates? Or what day of the week or what week of the month?
Post by: Heavily Armed Hiker on June 08, 2012, 01:15:41 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on June 08, 2012, 01:17:04 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on June 08, 2012, 01:25:06 PM
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on June 08, 2012, 01:31:44 PM
Haven't the backdoors usually come up on Thursday nights? :dunno: I voted the 14th.
Last year it was on a Tuesday afternoon (the 14th), around 1:00. The official results came up about 2 hours later.
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2012, 01:50:27 PM
Results well be available June 12 2012
Post by: Heavily Armed Hiker on June 08, 2012, 02:18:32 PM
Post by: X-Force on June 08, 2012, 02:22:51 PM
ANTLERLESS ELK 2012 Individual 04/19/2012 09:24 Not Selected
Post by: Cascade on June 08, 2012, 02:23:35 PM
Post by: X-Force on June 08, 2012, 02:24:36 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 08, 2012, 02:24:40 PM
The other three I applied for still show "DRAW NOT RUN YET."
Post by: Chesapeake on June 08, 2012, 02:26:37 PM
Change that!!!!
BULL ELK 2012 Individual 001131253 05/07/2012 04:11 Selected
QUALITY ELK 2012 Individual 001131242 05/07/2012 04:07 Not Selected
Post by: Bigshooter on June 08, 2012, 02:27:48 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 08, 2012, 02:27:57 PM
Still waiting for moose and quality deer.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 08, 2012, 02:28:56 PM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on June 08, 2012, 02:31:30 PM
Post by: Cascade on June 08, 2012, 02:31:49 PM
Post by: X-Force on June 08, 2012, 02:31:57 PM
1) Chiliwist
2) Eniat
Post by: bobcat on June 08, 2012, 02:32:01 PM
:whoo:
Post by: furbearer365 on June 08, 2012, 02:35:14 PM
Post by: Heavily Armed Hiker on June 08, 2012, 02:35:49 PM
Post by: shanevg on June 08, 2012, 02:36:51 PM
Post by: shanevg on June 08, 2012, 02:38:16 PM
Post by: huntnphool on June 08, 2012, 02:38:41 PM
Our group of 4 drew Quality deer! :IBCOOL:
:whoo:
Congrats Bob :tup:
Post by: furbearer365 on June 08, 2012, 02:40:42 PM
SELECTED FOR QUALITY ELK.
Post by: jimmy z on June 08, 2012, 02:40:46 PM
Post by: shanevg on June 08, 2012, 02:41:32 PM
Post by: sleepingin on June 08, 2012, 02:41:48 PM
Back door
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on June 08, 2012, 02:43:23 PM
Post by: shanevg on June 08, 2012, 02:44:14 PM
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on June 08, 2012, 02:44:23 PM
Post by: shanevg on June 08, 2012, 02:46:15 PM
Wow i drew a rifle Rut tag... Not sure wich one. Hope these stick.
Congrats!!!!!!
Post by: remington300mag on June 08, 2012, 02:46:41 PM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on June 08, 2012, 02:47:01 PM
Post by: bowsandhose on June 08, 2012, 02:48:27 PM
Just went through everyone on my family......Every catogory says "Draw not run yet".....wonder why some peoples are showing and some aren't?!?!same here
Post by: CP on June 08, 2012, 02:49:12 PM
the rest as not selected
Post by: mossback91 on June 08, 2012, 02:50:22 PM
2 show as "Draw Not Run Yet"Same here
the rest as not selected
Post by: JODakota on June 08, 2012, 02:50:40 PM
2 show as "Draw Not Run Yet"
the rest as not selected
same here
Post by: Fullabull on June 08, 2012, 02:51:03 PM
Post by: medic6 on June 08, 2012, 02:51:10 PM
Post by: runamuk on June 08, 2012, 02:51:40 PM
Just went through everyone on my family......Every catogory says "Draw not run yet".....wonder why some peoples are showing and some aren't?!?!
my guess is wdfw is catching on and beginning to just screw with all the back door people....I know i would if I was in charge :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Ridgerunner on June 08, 2012, 02:52:00 PM
Post by: skipper on June 08, 2012, 02:52:16 PM
Post by: shanevg on June 08, 2012, 02:52:59 PM
Post by: Heavily Armed Hiker on June 08, 2012, 02:53:16 PM
Post by: rackattack on June 08, 2012, 02:53:40 PM
Post by: JODakota on June 08, 2012, 02:53:59 PM
Post by: jimmy z on June 08, 2012, 02:54:14 PM
Post by: dblungshot on June 08, 2012, 02:54:32 PM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on June 08, 2012, 02:55:22 PM
Post by: medic6 on June 08, 2012, 02:55:57 PM
Post by: shanevg on June 08, 2012, 02:56:06 PM
Selected for GOAT :IBCOOL:
:tup:
Which units did you apply for?
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on June 08, 2012, 02:56:32 PM
Post by: skipper on June 08, 2012, 02:57:40 PM
what date and time is next to selected not selected
I think that is when you bought the Apps
Post by: medic6 on June 08, 2012, 02:58:09 PM
Post by: mossback91 on June 08, 2012, 02:58:48 PM
Post by: iRem on June 08, 2012, 03:00:22 PM
Post by: madmack76 on June 08, 2012, 03:01:14 PM
Post by: Rainstorm Hunter on June 08, 2012, 03:06:45 PM
Post by: sirmissalot on June 08, 2012, 03:10:05 PM
Post by: Chesapeake on June 08, 2012, 03:11:16 PM
ANTLERLESS ELK 2012 Individual 001131273 05/07/2012 04:17 Selected
BULL ELK 2012 Individual 001131253 05/07/2012 04:11 Selected
Post by: sirmissalot on June 08, 2012, 03:13:45 PM
Post by: Pinetar on June 08, 2012, 03:14:18 PM
Post by: Cascade on June 08, 2012, 03:17:56 PM
Just burned my cow and bull points in one shot, what were the odds??? Oh well, only had 4 points anyway.
ANTLERLESS ELK 2012 Individual 001131273 05/07/2012 04:17 Selected
BULL ELK 2012 Individual 001131253 05/07/2012 04:11 Selected
Same here....
Post by: shanevg on June 08, 2012, 03:20:07 PM
Post by: rackattack on June 08, 2012, 03:24:57 PM
I had Naches, Chowder, Blazed Ridge, and Goat Rocks as my choice for Goat
Post by: ihunt on June 08, 2012, 03:25:57 PM
I'm thirsty and hungry.Backdoor should be up fri june 8I bet you a pitcher of beer and an appetizer at the bonney lake tavern that it won't be up June 8th????? :)
Post by: Chesapeake on June 08, 2012, 03:27:05 PM
BUCK DEER 2012 Group Leader 001131898 05/07/2012 06:41 Selected
Please tell me this isnt going to be a redraw year!!!!!
Post by: shanevg on June 08, 2012, 03:28:03 PM
shanevg,
I had Naches, Chowder, Blazed Ridge, and Goat Rocks as my choice for Goat
Any one of those units will be a good hunt. I only know one of them well. Good luck to you!
Post by: Chesapeake on June 08, 2012, 03:28:19 PM
I'm thirsty and hungry.Backdoor should be up fri june 8I bet you a pitcher of beer and an appetizer at the bonney lake tavern that it won't be up June 8th????? :)
Yeah baby!!! :chuckle:
Post by: Antlershed on June 08, 2012, 03:28:57 PM
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on June 08, 2012, 03:30:45 PM
Post by: ihunt on June 08, 2012, 03:34:49 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 08, 2012, 03:36:40 PM
14 points got me Mt. Adams rut tag or Quinault Rut tag
SWEET!! Good luck!!
Post by: Rainstorm Hunter on June 08, 2012, 03:40:50 PM
Post by: iRem on June 08, 2012, 03:47:10 PM
Post by: Fletch on June 08, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
Post by: doyourtime89 on June 08, 2012, 03:55:38 PM
Adding to the list:
BUCK DEER 2012 Group Leader 001131898 05/07/2012 06:41 Selected
Please tell me this isnt going to be a redraw year!!!!!
Have they had redraw years? Has there been a year or years where we look up the back door results and then they end up doing a redraw and when it really comes out things have changed???
Post by: Curly on June 08, 2012, 03:56:43 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 08, 2012, 03:57:23 PM
Adding to the list:
BUCK DEER 2012 Group Leader 001131898 05/07/2012 06:41 Selected
Please tell me this isnt going to be a redraw year!!!!!
Have they had redraw years? Has there been a year or years where we look up the back door results and then they end up doing a redraw and when it really comes out things have changed???
That has only happened once that I can remember. And it's not really a "redraw." The back door results are not official. So it would only be a "redraw" if they posted offical results and then did it over and changed the results.
Post by: doyourtime89 on June 08, 2012, 03:59:56 PM
Adding to the list:
BUCK DEER 2012 Group Leader 001131898 05/07/2012 06:41 Selected
Please tell me this isnt going to be a redraw year!!!!!
Have they had redraw years? Has there been a year or years where we look up the back door results and then they end up doing a redraw and when it really comes out things have changed???
That has only happened once that I can remember. And it's not really a "redraw." The back door results are not official. So it would only be a "redraw" if they posted offical results and then did it over and changed the results.
Yeah I see what you are saying about it being unofficial. So I guess a better question is how offten have people looked at the back door (unofficial) and then when the official results come out things are different?
Post by: bobcat on June 08, 2012, 04:05:36 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on June 08, 2012, 04:09:29 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 08, 2012, 04:10:35 PM
Second deer for me. :bash:
You didn't want to draw that? :dunno:
Post by: Slenk on June 08, 2012, 04:15:36 PM
Hope it's right.
Post by: rose673 on June 08, 2012, 04:16:13 PM
Post by: kramman on June 08, 2012, 04:17:06 PM
Post by: wannahunt on June 08, 2012, 04:17:28 PM
Post by: shooter581 on June 08, 2012, 04:25:01 PM
Post by: Elkpiss on June 08, 2012, 04:41:32 PM
Post by: Alaska316 on June 08, 2012, 04:48:03 PM
Post by: JKEEN33 on June 08, 2012, 04:48:33 PM
Quality Elk. Not sure which one yet
Observatory Archery for me.
Post by: nwcassels on June 08, 2012, 04:50:12 PM
Post by: Pinetar on June 08, 2012, 04:53:25 PM
Post by: huntnphool on June 08, 2012, 05:00:33 PM
drew the BUCK DEER 2012 Group Leader and quality Bull tag archery
Very nice, what units did you apply for?
Congrats to all of you guys that drew. :tup:
Post by: Chesapeake on June 08, 2012, 05:08:34 PM
why are some people getting selected and others say drawn not run yet? I have nothing drawn yet.
Because some people are clicking on the "draw results" link the official way and those arent up yet.
The rest of us are clicking on "submit an application" and looking at our draw history. The draw history includes this year, and is what we call "back door".
Post by: turbo on June 08, 2012, 05:11:04 PM
Post by: Chesapeake on June 08, 2012, 05:18:10 PM
I'm zipper lip on the cow and late whitetail, but will say they were easier less popular stuff. Wouldnt want to make them known.
Maybe the WDFW isnt so bad after all for moving Margret over to the Bull catagory. Guess I'll have to go see what all the Agnew hoopalla is about.
Post by: slim9300 on June 08, 2012, 05:24:12 PM
Gonna be hard to top last years buck (her 1st ever) since I think it's two doe tags. At least they are both a short drive this time. Lol.
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Post by: 50CalJim on June 08, 2012, 05:30:00 PM
Post by: SI Eagle on June 08, 2012, 05:36:16 PM
Post by: slim9300 on June 08, 2012, 05:37:18 PM
15 points for every tag you can put in for and still nothing. Nice f ing system
Ouch!
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Post by: bonkellekter on June 08, 2012, 05:38:41 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 08, 2012, 06:11:35 PM
15 points for every tag you can put in for and still nothing. Nice f ing system
Would you mind posting the hunts you applied for? I'm betting you only applied for the most difficult to draw permits? If so, that's why you didn't draw. 15 points doesn't guarantee anything. Next year apply for permits that have better odds of drawing.
Post by: Griz231 on June 08, 2012, 06:25:01 PM
Post by: Curly on June 08, 2012, 06:34:34 PM
15 points for every tag you can put in for and still nothing. Nice f ing system
Would you mind posting the hunts you applied for? I'm betting you only applied for the most difficult to draw permits? If so, that's why you didn't draw. 15 points doesn't guarantee anythihng. Next year apply for permits that have better odds of drawing.
The more people that put in for those practically impossible to draw permits, the better the odds are going to be for you to draw those other permits since they aren't applying for them. :twocents:
Post by: SI Eagle on June 08, 2012, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: SI Eagle link=topic=98495.msg1286056#msg1286056 date=1339202176
15 points for every tag you can put in for and still nothing. Nice f ing system
[/quoteWould you mind posting the hunts you applied for? I'm betting you only applied for the most difficult to draw permits? If so, that's why you dit draw. 15 points doesn't guarantee anythihng. Next year apply for permits that have better odds of drawing.
I give you example, all the OIL tags are hard but Muzzle Mudflow and Toutle for Quality Elk, Both Margaret for Bull, and Desert and Quilomene for deer. I understand that they are a little harder to draw but 15 years is b.s. in this state. This cost me over $800 for me and my son for license, tags and permit fee's. I don't whine but our sytem is f'ed up. Guys that have alot of points are usually the guys that hunt hard and put in for permits every year, thus giving the state revenue every year. Not just now and then. That is why if and when I ever draw I am done.
Post by: bobcat on June 08, 2012, 06:39:27 PM
15 points for every tag you can put in for and still nothing. Nice f ing system
Would you mind posting the hunts you applied for? I'm betting you only applied for the most difficult to draw permits? If so, that's why you didn't draw. 15 points doesn't guarantee anythihng. Next year apply for permits that have better odds of drawing.
The more people that put in for those practically impossible to draw permits, the better the odds are going to be for you to draw those other permits since they aren't applying for them. :twocents:
What's your point?
Post by: the509hunter on June 08, 2012, 06:41:03 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 08, 2012, 06:49:17 PM
15 points for every tag you can put in for and still nothing. Nice f ing systemWould you mind posting the hunts you applied for? I'm betting you only applied for the most difficult to draw permits? If so, that's why you dit draw. 15 points doesn't guarantee anythihng. Next year apply for permits that have better odds of drawing.
I give you example, all the OIL tags are hard but Muzzle Mudflow and Toutle for Quality Elk, Both Margaret for Bull, and Desert and Quilomene for deer. I understand that they are a little harder to draw but 15 years is b.s. in this state. This cost me over $800 for me and my son for license, tags and permit fee's. I don't whine but our sytem is f'ed up. Guys that have alot of points are usually the guys that hunt hard and put in for permits every year, thus giving the state revenue every year. Not just now and then. That is why if and when I ever draw I am done.
Well for one thing the WDFW did screw your odds this year by putting the Margaret in the bull category instead of quality. The Toutle permit very likely was much harder to draw because of that. But I still think you're not drawing permits because you only apply for the most popular and hardest to draw hunts. I drew a deer permit in 2000, 2004, 2008, and now again in 2012. This year I did apply with a group, of which one group member had 20 points and the other had 12, bringing our average to 7 points. So that helped. But the Desert permit is about as hard to draw as a moose permit. Any way you look at it, it takes luck to draw a permit. Points don't guarantee anything, and that's what is GOOD about our system. Otherwise, new hunters would have no incentive to even get started in applying for special permits.
Post by: SniperDanWA on June 08, 2012, 07:03:59 PM
Post by: splitshot on June 08, 2012, 07:09:57 PM
Post by: Curly on June 08, 2012, 09:12:37 PM
15 points for every tag you can put in for and still nothing. Nice f ing system
Would you mind posting the hunts you applied for? I'm betting you only applied for the most difficult to draw permits? If so, that's why you didn't draw. 15 points doesn't guarantee anythihng. Next year apply for permits that have better odds of drawing.
The more people that put in for those practically impossible to draw permits, the better the odds are going to be for you to draw those other permits since they aren't applying for them. :twocents:
What's your point?
If people want to apply every year and not get drawn, let them. Don't give them advice on how to get drawn.
Post by: bobcat on June 08, 2012, 09:20:19 PM
15 points for every tag you can put in for and still nothing. Nice f ing system
Would you mind posting the hunts you applied for? I'm betting you only applied for the most difficult to draw permits? If so, that's why you didn't draw. 15 points doesn't guarantee anythihng. Next year apply for permits that have better odds of drawing.
The more people that put in for those practically impossible to draw permits, the better the odds are going to be for you to draw those other permits since they aren't applying for them. :twocents:
What's your point?
If people want to apply every year and not get drawn, let them. Don't give them advice on how to get drawn.
It's alright, nobody listens to me anyway.
Post by: Curly on June 08, 2012, 09:20:58 PM
;)
Post by: Ridgerunner on June 08, 2012, 09:22:10 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 08, 2012, 09:25:45 PM
HAts off to the WDFW, draw was turned around in 3 weeks
:yeah:
I was going to say the same thing- thanks WDFW for not making me wait one more weekend!
(also helps that I drew in 2 of the 5 categories I applied in) :chuckle:
Post by: trophyhunt on June 08, 2012, 09:41:12 PM
I knew you worked for the wdfw..... :chuckle: :chuckle:Let's see, you supported the price increases, the point system and you drew 2 out of 5??? Next year no matter how stinky the bs is, I'm with you and the WDFW!! :tup: I do have to admit they did a great job on getting the permits out quick this year.HAts off to the WDFW, draw was turned around in 3 weeks
:yeah:
I was going to say the same thing- thanks WDFW for not making me wait one more weekend!
(also helps that I drew in 2 of the 5 categories I applied in) :chuckle:
Post by: bobcat on June 08, 2012, 09:48:11 PM
I knew you worked for the wdfw..... :chuckle: :chuckle:Let's see, you supported the price increases, the point system and you drew 2 out of 5??? Next year no matter how stinky the bs is, I'm with you and the WDFW!! :tup: I do have to admit they did a great job on getting the permits out quick this year.HAts off to the WDFW, draw was turned around in 3 weeks
:yeah:
I was going to say the same thing- thanks WDFW for not making me wait one more weekend!
(also helps that I drew in 2 of the 5 categories I applied in) :chuckle:
The thing is I always apply for hunts that are relatively easy to draw, whenever possible. I did not draw moose, or quality elk, or bull elk. But yes, you should know the WDFW does watch this site, and whoever complains the most, is automatically disqualified from the drawing. Thought everyone knew that. :dunno:
Post by: Wea300mag on June 08, 2012, 09:51:44 PM
Post by: huntnphool on June 09, 2012, 12:21:23 AM
HAts off to the WDFW, draw was turned around in 3 weeks, Congrats to all those who drew, its a great feeling for sure.
:yeah: :brew:
Post by: HoofsandWings on June 09, 2012, 06:39:57 AM
Post by: Chesapeake on June 09, 2012, 09:48:26 AM
Maybe this will wake some folks up.
The over the counter, or pretty well 100% draw tags in Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, and Colorado are better than 95% percent of the elk and 98% of the deer tags in Washington. You can easily get a better tag in 3 years of draws in those states than you could maybe draw in a lifetime in Washington.
Put in for other states!!!!!
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 09, 2012, 10:50:08 AM
PathfinderJR and I both drew late muzzy cow tags. It'd be nice to draw something with horns (never have), but I'll take the meat tags :tup: Besides, I've only been at it 11 years, so I figure I've got a few more to go...
Post by: fishseeker on June 09, 2012, 11:35:48 AM
Post by: bobcat on June 09, 2012, 03:41:16 PM
Yup, hat's off to WDFW for the quick results this year. I am also noticing that a lot of OIL tags went to people who also drew Quality Bull or Quality Buck. Must be max point holders :dunno:
It will be interesting to see how many less people applied for the quality hunts, and the OIL hunts, due to the price increase. I actually put my wife in for moose and antlerless moose this year, and did not last year, because I thought her odds might be better because of the price increase. It could be that others did the same, and maybe there will be MORE applications? I doubt it, but anything's possible. Wouldn't the WDFW love it, if more people bought applications at the higher price? :chuckle:
Post by: 50CalJim on June 09, 2012, 03:58:17 PM
Post by: kirkl on June 09, 2012, 06:18:28 PM
Post by: B.G.hunter on June 09, 2012, 06:51:38 PM
Yup, hat's off to WDFW for the quick results this year. I am also noticing that a lot of OIL tags went to people who also drew Quality Bull or Quality Buck. Must be max point holders :dunno:
It will be interesting to see how many less people applied for the quality hunts, and the OIL hunts, due to the price increase. I actually put my wife in for moose and antlerless moose this year, and did not last year, because I thought her odds might be better because of the price increase. It could be that others did the same, and maybe there will be MORE applications? I doubt it, but anything's possible. Wouldn't the WDFW love it, if more people bought applications at the higher price? :chuckle:
I am also interested in seeing the report and find out how many people did not put in for quality permits. Do you know when it is going to come out? But I am very pleased with them getting the drawing done quickly even though I did not draw anything.
Post by: bobcat on June 09, 2012, 07:01:15 PM
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I am also interested in seeing the report and find out how many people did not put in for quality permits. Do you know when it is going to come out?
No, I don't know, but it will probably be at least a month or two.
Post by: yorketransport on June 09, 2012, 07:21:15 PM
Now to decide which gun to use. One of the 338's? Maybe the 358 Win. Or possibly the 375 Ruger? Or maybe one of the handguns.......... :chuckle: These are the tough choices that will keep me up at night.
Andrew
Post by: Chesapeake on June 10, 2012, 09:06:05 AM
Post by: bobcat on June 10, 2012, 09:26:24 AM
Seemed last year the raffle tickets took a big hit with the economy. I wonder how bad of a hit they take this year? Draw odds may be improving.
It may have been more to do with the fact that they quit selling raffle tickets online last year, than the economy. You had to actually go to a store that sells hunting licenses to purchase the raffle tickets last year. Before that you could just get on the computer and do it at home. I do think odds should have improved somewhat on the raffle. I would buy a few this year just because of that, like I did last year, but I now with the permits I drew I now have enough hunts on the schedule that I don't want anymore. So I will be saving my money this year.
Post by: Chesapeake on June 10, 2012, 10:12:37 PM