Post by: Wacenturion on May 30, 2012, 09:21:19 PM
Myself and someone else in my boat. I have two traps with my name on it as I'm allowed. The friend has no traps. We both have crab licenses. Obviously I can harvest my limit. Question is can my friend harvest his limit from my trap pulls?
Unless I missed it somewhere in the regulations......why the hell don't they explain it. Seems like something that would happen almost all the time.
Thanks for the help.
Post by: jaymark6655 on May 30, 2012, 09:44:18 PM
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Post by: wraithen on May 30, 2012, 09:51:22 PM
Post by: steeleywhopper on May 30, 2012, 09:58:50 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on May 30, 2012, 10:27:36 PM
Unless I missed something (haven't read fishing regs for three years now) can fish using someone else's traps, would be like fishing with someone elses pole. Just not allowed to have more than four pots on the boat, I think the name on the gear is mainly for trying to reclaim/return lost gear.
No limit on number of pots on the boat, but there is a limit of two pots per person with his or her name and address on those two pots. Just wanted to clarify that. That was clearly evident in the regs.
Post by: lokidog on May 30, 2012, 10:52:14 PM
Put some duct tape over your name on one of the pots and put his name and address on the pot. They are extremely strict when it comes to crab.
Don't worry about it! As mentioned above, you can have two crab pots with your name on it and ten people can get their limits out of them. The only restriction on number of pots is for shrimping, four in a boat no matter how many people, but there again, any number of people can limit out of those pots. Just make sure that the person who's name is on the buoy is in the boat. That is about the only way I think they can get you if you are following size restrictions and limits.
Post by: RB on May 30, 2012, 11:29:58 PM
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Post by: sirmissalot on May 31, 2012, 10:04:58 AM
You can fish as many people as you want with the two traps. Just make sure that when you pull the pots the person whose name is on them is in the boat. That way there is no question on ownership.
:yeah: Bingo
Post by: Wacenturion on May 31, 2012, 12:28:53 PM
You can fish as many people as you want with the two traps. Just make sure that when you pull the pots the person whose name is on them is in the boat. That way there is no question on ownership.
:yeah: Bingo
Thanks all for the responses! Appreciate it.
You would think that WDFW would add one or two sentences to clarify that. Not like the pamphlet doesn't have room....good grief. :bash:
Post by: huntnphool on May 31, 2012, 12:38:57 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on May 31, 2012, 02:11:11 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on May 31, 2012, 04:00:39 PM
"Any angler may assist the person whose name is on the buoy while he or she is pulling the pot."
but therein lies the question. It says may assist the person's whose name is on the pot while he or she is pulling the pot. However it does not specifically say anything about the helper harvesting crabs from that pot.
One more sentence saying that.....
the person helping may also legally harvest crabs from said pot with the proper license while adhering to specific individual area limit(s)
would certainly end any confusion.
Post by: huntnphool on May 31, 2012, 04:08:59 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on May 31, 2012, 05:27:28 PM
I know for shrimp we have to have a different buoy for each person, I made poles that the buoy can slide on and off to make it easy to swap them on the water.
Will probably be doing something similar. :tup:
Post by: lokidog on June 01, 2012, 01:23:19 AM
I know for shrimp we have to have a different buoy for each person, I made poles that the buoy can slide on and off to make it easy to swap them on the water.
IMO - A waste of time unless one of the people leaves the boat whose name is on the buoy.... :dunno:
Post by: huntnphool on June 01, 2012, 01:38:34 PM
Put some duct tape over your name on one of the pots and put his name and address on the pot. They are extremely strict when it comes to crab.
"GENERAL GEAR RULES:
Every shellfish pot, ring net, or star trap left unattended in Washington waters must have its own buoy line and a separate buoy that is permanently and legibly marked with the operator’s first name, last name, and permanent address"
Post by: Wacenturion on June 01, 2012, 04:33:34 PM
Suggestion for next years fishing regulations.........
The statewide general rules....crab, shrimp and crawfish state the following............
On page 135 2nd full paragraph under general gear rules
"Any angler may assist the person whose name is on the buoy while he or she is pulling the pot."
Therein lies the question. It says may assist the person's whose name is on the pot while he or she is pulling the pot. However it does not specifically say anything about the helper harvesting crabs, shrimp or crawfish from that pot.
One more sentence saying that.....
"the person helping may also legally harvest crabs from said pot with the proper license while adhering to specific individual area limit(s)" ....
or
"if the person assisting has the appropriate license, he or she can also record crab, shrimp or crawfish harvested from those pots."
would certainly end any confusion. Please consider adding something of like that for next years publication.
Thanks
Dan
Post by: Wacenturion on June 01, 2012, 04:34:28 PM
Dear Mr. XXXXXXX ,
Thank you for taking the time to email your comments to the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission. Each commissioner will receive a copy.
Opinions and comments such as yours provide the Commission with valuable insight into fish and wildlife issues of concern to communities throughout our state. The Commission relies on public testimony, email, and correspondence to help determine what is working well and what requires more concentrated efforts.
Thank you for your interest in the conservation and management of the state’s precious fish and wildlife resources.
Sincerely,
Erin Gariépy, Administrative Assistant
Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission
Mail: 600 Capitol Way N, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
Phone:(360) 902-2267; Fax : (360) 902-2448
Web: www.wdfw.wa.gov/commission
Post by: Chase 1 on June 01, 2012, 04:57:14 PM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/regulations/rule_proposals/
Really all your asking for is an amendment for clarification. You can already harvest using others traps but specific language would be reasonable. :twocents:
Post by: huntnphool on June 01, 2012, 05:09:30 PM
Here's the first response back........
Dear Mr. XXXXXXX ,
Thank you for taking the time to email your comments to the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission. Each commissioner will receive a copy.
Opinions and comments such as yours provide the Commission with valuable insight into fish and wildlife issues of concern to communities throughout our state. The Commission relies on public testimony, email, and correspondence to help determine what is working well and what requires more concentrated efforts.
Thank you for your interest in the conservation and management of the state’s precious fish and wildlife resources.
Sincerely,
Erin Gariépy, Administrative Assistant
Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission
Mail: 600 Capitol Way N, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
Phone:(360) 902-2267; Fax : (360) 902-2448
Web: www.wdfw.wa.gov/commission
:chuckle: Thank you for your email, now go away!
Post by: Wacenturion on June 01, 2012, 05:11:03 PM
That is their auto generated reply. Did you send that through the "proposal for rule change" form to the DFW also? If not here is the link
http://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/regulations/rule_proposals/
Really all your asking for is an amendment for clarification. You can already harvest using others traps but specific language would be reasonable. :twocents:
Sent it to the Commission, and the Fish Section earlier. Just now followed your link and submitted as an amendment there also.
Thanks.
Post by: Wacenturion on June 01, 2012, 05:12:40 PM
You think....lol :chuckle:
Current language says absolutely nothing about harvest...zip, nada. I realize it a matter of interpretation....no not even that. Officer could write a ticket on that and I would have to show where it said I could harvest off my buddies trap. Unfortunately, I could conceivably lose....language doesn't exist. :bash: