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Title: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: Giggles on June 01, 2012, 02:46:27 PM
Does anyone know if this permit is based on a point system, or if everyone has the same chance of getting drawn?  I finally found something positive the army gave me...a bum knee and back.  This even beats the retirement and VA disability I'm receiving.   
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: bobcat on June 01, 2012, 02:56:12 PM
No, there is no point system involved.

Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: Elkrunner on June 01, 2012, 03:05:27 PM
There is a form that you need to fill out and have your doctor sign. 
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 01, 2012, 03:45:17 PM
Does anyone know if this permit is based on a point system, or if everyone has the same chance of getting drawn?  I finally found something positive the army gave me...a bum knee and back.  This even beats the retirement and VA disability I'm receiving.

To request an application for a Disabled Hunter Permit contact the WDFW @
360-902-2464
Starting 6-1 to 7-31 ONLY.
It tells you everything that needs to be done. I got mine in less than 1 week.
There are other programs too for access to timber lands, Inland Empire Paper. They have a drawing, which is over. I got a family pass free of charge for 1000's of acres in eastern Washington and you can ride your ATV LEGALLY on it. You can also have a designated hunter with you too.
Look at page 88 in the game laws.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: gasman on June 01, 2012, 09:48:36 PM
Unfortunately, the areas for disabled hunters have been the same for years and many are not that good any more  :bash:

There is no points system, it is just who gets drawn for the area.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 01, 2012, 09:59:39 PM
Unfortunately, the areas for disabled hunters have been the same for years and many are not that good any more  :bash:

There is no points system, it is just who gets drawn for the area.

True, but I was told by Julie Anderson out of the Swanson Lake Rec area that there is a new area by Eloika Lake . She's the boss and gave me a new road map for that area. Might be too far though.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: gasman on June 02, 2012, 09:22:06 AM
Unfortunately, the areas for disabled hunters have been the same for years and many are not that good any more  :bash:

There is no points system, it is just who gets drawn for the area.

True, but I was told by Julie Anderson out of the Swanson Lake Rec area that there is a new area by Eloika Lake . She's the boss and gave me a new road map for that area. Might be too far though.

I sure hope so, our disabled hunters dont have enough area to hunt to get away from the general hunting public.

I believe they need to look at or rotate areas for disabled hunters more often.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 02, 2012, 09:56:27 AM
Unfortunately, the areas for disabled hunters have been the same for years and many are not that good any more  :bash:

There is no points system, it is just who gets drawn for the area.

True, but I was told by Julie Anderson out of the Swanson Lake Rec area that there is a new area by Eloika Lake . She's the boss and gave me a new road map for that area. Might be too far though.

I sure hope so, our disabled hunters dont have enough area to hunt to get away from the general hunting public.

I believe they need to look at or rotate areas for disabled hunters more often.

No kidding. They are even closing areas down and not looking for other places for us. Sucks !!!
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: shoot-em-dead on June 02, 2012, 11:03:32 AM
I have the placard and I sure don't complain about it- it still gives us advantages that many hunters don't get like sitting in the warm cab of the truck while glassing a big clear cut, and shooting from the truck if opportunity arises. I have only shot from the truck once and that was at a bobcat and missed :bash: but I still had the chance and legally. There are also many different organizations and private farms that will give access to disabled hunters that they don't give anyone else. As far as the state draws I don't put in for them right now because I know there are other hunters that have more severe disabilities than I do and can't get out like I can.

The program is a plus for disabled folks and I would say that 85% of the folks that I have met that have them are not disabled to the point that they need a placard. It is also to help the odds of harvesting an animal but not a guarantee. It is still HUNTING not harvesting. Learn more about the opportunities that exist and find something else to complain about.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 02, 2012, 11:32:42 AM
FYI, I have a placard too ! I use it all the time.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: buckhorn2 on June 02, 2012, 11:41:00 AM
My disabeled friend just got his permit to use a cross bow it should be interesting figureing how he can shoot that out of a car. He has had the placecard for several years I don;t think we live near the roads for the disabled and he has another operation in september so will probley miss this year  so did;nt want to put in for permits either so he would;nt hurt someones chances of getting drawn.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 02, 2012, 12:32:50 PM
My disabeled friend just got his permit to use a cross bow it should be interesting figureing how he can shoot that out of a car. He has had the placecard for several years I don;t think we live near the roads for the disabled and he has another operation in september so will probley miss this year  so did;nt want to put in for permits either so he would;nt hurt someones chances of getting drawn.

Ride in the back of a pickup in a secured chair...
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: buckhorn2 on June 02, 2012, 02:01:19 PM
Sounds good but we live on the wet side don;t know how long he would last could try it though on a good day.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 02, 2012, 02:12:40 PM
Sounds good but we live on the wet side don;t know how long he would last could try it though on a good day.

Setup a blind in the back of the truck with the chair inside of it..... :tup:
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: buckhorn2 on June 03, 2012, 08:58:22 AM
I am the hunter companion for my disabeled friend that has a crossbow permit but I rifle hunt. If I am with him can I have a bow to assist even if I have a rifle deer and elk tag. Worring what would happen if he did hit something and it was crippled or something what would it be legal for a hunter companion to do in that case. He thinks I could go after it with his crossbow but I know nothing about them but do have a bow just wanted to know the regulations on that before we get ourselves into something. Also anybody know how effecient a crossbow is hunting will it stop a deer or elk or would a chase be on.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: bobcat on June 03, 2012, 09:09:23 AM
I am the hunter companion for my disabeled friend that has a crossbow permit but I rifle hunt. If I am with him can I have a bow to assist even if I have a rifle deer and elk tag. Worring what would happen if he did hit something and it was crippled or something what would it be legal for a hunter companion to do in that case. He thinks I could go after it with his crossbow but I know nothing about them but do have a bow just wanted to know the regulations on that before we get ourselves into something. Also anybody know how effecient a crossbow is hunting will it stop a deer or elk or would a chase be on.


Buckhorn, that's a good question. I would think that you would be legal in using your friend's crossbow to help him in killing his animal. It wouldn't make sense to me that a companion hunter would be expected to invest in a bow just for the purpose of helping a disabled hunter on his hunt. However I would probably call WDFW enforcement just to be sure.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: bobcat on June 03, 2012, 09:14:41 AM
This is the WAC that covers disabled hunters but it doesn't specifically address your question:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-12-828
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: buckhorn2 on June 03, 2012, 10:04:58 AM
Thanks Bobcat I looked in the regs but did;nt see anything that covered that but you idea of asking inforcement is good. We usually hunt right behind my house but might get somewhere we might get checked if he got a shot at a doe he would think he had a great season. We shot his crossbow in the yard and he can use a scope on it and out to 50 yards was real accurate but just don;t know what might happen if he did hit one so wondered about follow up.  Thanks  DEL
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: brokehunter on June 03, 2012, 10:57:23 PM
I think someone should come out with a 4wd wheelchair for the disabled folks who can't get around or even onto a quad. I'd call it the Sportsman's Chair. "When the Hoveround just isn't able to get you around." Would be kinda cool seeing a wheel chair with big nobby tires and painted camoflauge, lol.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 03, 2012, 10:59:18 PM
I think someone should come out with a 4wd wheelchair for the disabled folks who can't get around or even onto a quad. I'd call it the Sportsman's Chair. "When the Hoveround just isn't able to get you around." Would be kinda cool seeing a wheel chair with big nobby tires and painted camoflauge, lol.

There is a few of them out there, a couple of them even have tracks! I have seen them on the outdoor channel.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: hunterrcc on June 03, 2012, 11:08:41 PM
the puyallup sportsmens show had the wheelchairs with tracks.  They are a good idea but not sure how well they will work.  A fourwheeler setup the right way is the best in my opinion.  The companion hunter must be close by the disabled hunter I believe 1/4 mile (don't quote me on it I should know better but don't) to help retrive the game animal and yes you could use the weapon that the hunter is using to finish the animal if needed.  I wonder if you can use the crossbow I will check with my dad for the answer tomorrow if I remember. 
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: buckhorn2 on June 07, 2012, 04:10:22 PM
I have not been able to find an answer to my question that is if a disabeled person shoots something with his crossbow and it runs off wounded what are the rules that would cover the hunter companions position. My friend has a disabeled permit that allows him to hunt with a crossbow with a scope on it he has one eye. He asked me what if he crippled something and I have always been his hunter companion and I don;t know what we could do lI know with a rifle it says you can help retreive game but what if it;s bow season and he has a crossbow what can the hunter companion do to assist. I don;t know anything about crossbows they just don;t look right maybe a hammer.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 07, 2012, 04:17:06 PM
I have not been able to find an answer to my question that is if a disabeled person shoots something with his crossbow and it runs off wounded what are the rules that would cover the hunter companions position. My friend has a disabeled permit that allows him to hunt with a crossbow with a scope on it he has one eye. He asked me what if he crippled something and I have always been his hunter companion and I don;t know what we could do lI know with a rifle it says you can help retreive game but what if it;s bow season and he has a crossbow what can the hunter companion do to assist. I don;t know anything about crossbows they just don;t look right maybe a hammer.

Call the game dept to make sure you get the right answer.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: buckhorn2 on June 07, 2012, 04:24:47 PM
A good idea I ask a warden yesterday and he said call the department must be the smart thing to do I don;t need any problems.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: Kent Hunter on June 07, 2012, 06:15:18 PM
I'm disabled and I would like the state to give us at least a FEW draw opportunities to harvest a decent buck. The way that it's set up now, all of the DEER hunts that the game dept has for disabled hunters are just glorified DOE permits. They (the state) used to have it set up for Unit 485 (Green River) that one year it was "Any Buck" for disabled and the next year it would be offered as a "Youth" special hunt for "Any Buck" and so on. Now it's anterless for disabled and "Any Buck" for youth. It's been that way for the last four or five years. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the young hunters having hunts with a chance for a "GOOD" buck, but the state took away the only special hunt for persons with disabilities that let them have a chance at a buck.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: hunterrcc on June 07, 2012, 09:10:12 PM
Ok so the correct answer is if the disable hunter shoots it with the cross bow and can't get to it then he can give his companion card to a person that possess a hunting license small or big game this state or another state license for that same season.  They may NOT use the crossbow to finish off the animal they must use a legal bow.  The exception is that there are new hunting areas mostly second deer i believe that are in the regs this year that allow anyone to use a crossbow in some restricted firearm areas in city limits but they are modern seasons for anyone to apply for.

 But as for a disable companion that hunts archery with a disable hunter that has a cross bow he must use a legal bow to retieve it.  This is the law.  110% accurate. 

I have not been able to find an answer to my question that is if a disabeled person shoots something with his crossbow and it runs off wounded what are the rules that would cover the hunter companions position. My friend has a disabeled permit that allows him to hunt with a crossbow with a scope on it he has one eye. He asked me what if he crippled something and I have always been his hunter companion and I don;t know what we could do lI know with a rifle it says you can help retreive game but what if it;s bow season and he has a crossbow what can the hunter companion do to assist. I don;t know anything about crossbows they just don;t look right maybe a hammer.
Title: Re: Disabled Hunter Road Access
Post by: buckhorn2 on June 08, 2012, 07:38:48 AM
I thank you for your help I could;nt find the answer I wanted to take him hunting but just did;nt want to get myself into something either. Thanks
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