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Title: Clemens Sheep
Post by: THunt on June 12, 2012, 09:07:55 AM
Just thought I would let you guys know incase someone has a tag.  There were 29 Rams yesterday just west of Hardy canyon right on top. Yes I said 29!!  It would be a good chance to compare rams side by side. Here is a couple pics of the one I liked.  Sorry they are with an IPhone through binos.(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Faeffb6ab-68e1-f6f3.jpg&hash=647e130474d78765ba912bab6208770a6dd345e7)
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Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 12, 2012, 09:37:05 AM
Nice !
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: huntnphool on June 12, 2012, 09:50:07 AM
 :tup:
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 12, 2012, 10:07:02 AM
good one from last year 171 5/8 green
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: hoffmas56 on June 12, 2012, 11:21:20 AM
I have the early season tag, and have been looking for some advice where to find them. I read that some sheep were removed and transplanted from Clemons this spring, so you sighting is encouraging, thanks for the info. How bad was the Hardy canyon road? Where do you think they water?
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 12, 2012, 11:28:44 AM
Nice pics thanks for posting them
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 12, 2012, 01:50:31 PM
If your in Naches look north west , there's sheep in them hills ! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: kirkl on June 12, 2012, 03:22:30 PM
Hardy canyon road is closed but they opened a new one about a half mile to the north that takes you up to the ridge road right in sheep country. that road is a good one.
Title: Clemens Sheep
Post by: THunt on June 12, 2012, 03:49:07 PM
If you get on top and can see you will find them. Are you going to shoot one or are you going to hunt for one?  It would be a really fun hunt with bow or Muzzy. With the riffle there isn't alot of challenge.
Title: Clemens Sheep
Post by: THunt on June 12, 2012, 03:50:45 PM
Coach

There was one pretty close to that in the group.  That is a sweetheart of a ram.  I would give a nut to be able to hunt those!
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 12, 2012, 05:39:06 PM
There was a group of rams with five nice rams ( well four now) in it all 165 -168 class rams . that ram was the only big ram that wasn't broomed and to my surprise didn't effect his score because he carried his mass. do you home work and really learn how to judge a ram you need to see them from the side and the back , look for a ram that drops beloow his jaw .
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: adamR on June 12, 2012, 07:53:05 PM
hoffmas56, where are you coming from? are you going to have scouting time? what weapon do you want to use?  How hard do you want to hunt/kill?
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on June 12, 2012, 08:04:25 PM
good one from last year 171 5/8 green
   :yike: :yike: :yike: :yike: :yike: :yike: Man thats a beauty !!! VERY NICE RAM ...Congrats !!!!
 :tup: :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: starbailey on June 13, 2012, 09:36:31 AM
PM sent
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: bobcat on June 13, 2012, 09:49:18 AM
If you get on top and can see you will find them. Are you going to shoot one or are you going to hunt for one?  It would be a really fun hunt with bow or Muzzy. With the riffle there isn't alot of challenge.

How about a lever action 30/30 w/open sights?



Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 13, 2012, 10:02:26 AM
if you can shoot 3-500 yards your chances go way up . there is two water holes that they go to if you wanna try a bow kill .
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: boneaddict on June 13, 2012, 10:18:13 AM
Hardest part is done (drawing the tag).   Its easy from here on out.   The unit is only so big.  Not like you need rediscover the world.  The hunt will be what you make of it.   Drive up and shoot one, or make a hunt of it
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: kirkl on June 13, 2012, 10:38:22 AM
Hardest part is done (drawing the tag).   Its easy from here on out.   The unit is only so big.  Not like you need rediscover the world.  The hunt will be what you make of it.   Drive up and shoot one, or make a hunt of it

 :yeah: exactly

I had two cousins draw partner sheep tags on clemans quit a few years ago. I was along on the hunt and they both shot 150 class rams out of the same herd of about 18 rams within 30 seconds apart. one cousin shot from the ridge and knocked one down and we were side hilling and were glassing the sheep when he shot so they just stood there and my other cousin got his. this was about 2 hours into opening morning.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: hoffmas56 on June 13, 2012, 11:29:21 AM
Thanks for the information and advice. I presently live in Moses Lake, grew up in Yakima, Selah and Naches area. I hunted Clemans and the Wenas area growing up. As you said the hardest part was probably drawing the tag. I plan to scout and select a nice ram. I am comforable with long range shooting, and plan to use my BAR .300 win mag.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: kirkl on June 13, 2012, 11:34:07 AM
have some good pack mules with ya (buddys) :) those sheep are alot bigger than you think. stocky buggers.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 13, 2012, 12:32:24 PM
Dont over look the east end of the unit , acess is tougher , only from the top , but I think some of the better rams hide out over there early.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 13, 2012, 12:36:12 PM
big steep *censored*s !
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: hoffmas56 on June 13, 2012, 01:11:57 PM
Thanks for the east end advice and photos. It has been a long time since I was up there. I used to hike up from the wheat fields, as you start down into the Wenas valley.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 13, 2012, 02:19:22 PM
Theres a trail that runs from the feed lot east that is a good lil hike and may offer some scouting without cutting a tire .
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: elkoholic1 on June 13, 2012, 02:35:05 PM
those pics bring back memory's and nightmares coach!!!!!
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 13, 2012, 03:05:40 PM
Its all good !
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: adamR on June 13, 2012, 04:03:02 PM
Those last two pictures by Coachcw would be exactly where I went if I had the tag... BIG BIG rams that hang out in there
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: elkoholic1 on June 13, 2012, 04:16:12 PM
we seen the biggest rams in the first draw you'd come to if coming in from the top i guess that would be the west end it seems to be the rockiest and with a ton of little crevices for them to bed down in we sat there for a while and seemed like they were popping out all around us it was our first day maid our minds a litttle rummy trying to pick them apart and score them.. 
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: Wea300mag on June 13, 2012, 07:41:20 PM
I wish I had a tag, this is some GREAT information. :tup:
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: JoeE on June 13, 2012, 11:07:57 PM
How many points did you have to draw?
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 14, 2012, 07:29:26 AM
When I drew I'm pterry sure that I had 11points . the late tag offers a better chance to find all the ams in the unit . after the first couple of days it will get lonely out there . a good bet is to glass from afar the night before and put them to bed . the sheep i found early will bug out two or three canyons when spoked . if a guy has two rigs or a motorcylce to leave on at the bottom and drop in it makes it way easyier . even in late october it can get hot and in augaust it can be brutal hiking back up . Last year we where in there on the night of the first and coulda shot a good ram but held out til oct since it was a raffle tag . be cafefull not to shoot the first ram you find because they are tough to judge . I'd spend some time trying to find a blue ear tag ram #417 if he's still around and old 408 . the biologist should be able to give you an idea . the only problem is they dont know wich sheep the indians harvest . Very fun hunt and is what you make of it.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: HoofsandWings on June 14, 2012, 04:30:02 PM
Here is a picture of my Clement sheep. At the time it was considered big, but now it is average.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 14, 2012, 05:03:54 PM
Nice ram I think I know that spot ( got Rope ? )
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: C-Money on June 14, 2012, 05:08:34 PM
Nice ram Hoofs! Congrats!

Good luck Hoffmas56! Should be a hunt of a lifetime!
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: norsepeak on June 14, 2012, 06:43:42 PM
was up there last week, saw 42 rams in three different groups.  Local bio says there are 90 rams up there.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: elkoholic1 on June 14, 2012, 10:19:15 PM
nice ram hoofs   :tup:
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 14, 2012, 10:32:14 PM
That is a nice ram! I am looking forward to seeing this hunt unfold. I always put it as my first choice and love the area.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 15, 2012, 07:02:30 AM
I think 90 rams is a hi number more like 40-50 with 12-15 being shooters , maybe 90 if you count the bannana rams but i doubt it , there herd is 250 or so strong .
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: dreamingbig on June 15, 2012, 07:05:50 AM
Sounds like a fun hunt.  Good luck and keep us posted!
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: norsepeak on June 15, 2012, 08:10:36 AM
Coach, just telling ya what the bio said he personally counted from the helicopter when they did their counts.  Don't think he would lie.....he works for WDFW after all.  Everything they say is pure truth.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: elkoholic1 on June 15, 2012, 08:18:58 AM
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 15, 2012, 08:32:34 AM
must be gods truth nors . Kinda like 50 bucks in a unit but ony three are three points ! I know guys that see the same herd of twenty elkn every day and after a week have seen 120 elk !  :) maybe there count was done late and they where getting some tieton sheep in the mix ? 90 just seems high but if thats the case it's great news . they gotta make the sixteen or so tags look in line with the count huh.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: HoofsandWings on June 15, 2012, 11:44:03 AM
Nice ram I think I know that spot ( got Rope ? )
Tell me about it. I was hunting alone. Never saw another hunter. It was a tough pack.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: elkoholic1 on June 15, 2012, 11:53:07 AM
some of the Teriann me and coach cover and scaled and repelled would have made a lot of people ill especially doing it all free hand with no ropes and stuff looking back on some of the cliffs we came down off of makes ya say wtf where we think in but man what a hunt to remember one ill never forget and i wasn't even the one with the tag ...
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 15, 2012, 12:14:15 PM
We hiked out in the dark with packs and ram ! frickin nuts only almost fell to our deaths two or three times , we where right in the middle so up wasn't a choice . you can easly spend all day working your way down a ridge and still not get out till after dark on the bright side they are pretty easy to spot from a distance.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: hoffmas56 on June 15, 2012, 01:27:24 PM
Thanks, all the info and advice should be very helpful. I will keep you all posted as things progress.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: elkoholic1 on June 15, 2012, 01:35:30 PM
good luck cant wait to see some pics of your hunt and success!!!!    :tup:
Title: Clemens Sheep
Post by: Ridgerunner on June 15, 2012, 04:13:20 PM
The tieton ram count was down and I believe the thought is they moved to Clemans which is why the ram counts were so high this year.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on June 15, 2012, 04:33:18 PM
Bingo !
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: hoffmas56 on October 26, 2012, 04:15:58 PM
Shot my ram on September 15th. saw several hundred rams total over four different scouting trips. Mine is pretty representative of the mature rams that I saw. I know that four similar rams were killed on opening day. Thanks to my hunting partner for helping me get it out, great experience.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: lokidog on October 26, 2012, 04:35:11 PM
Nice.   :tup:
Title: Clemens Sheep
Post by: Ridgerunner on October 26, 2012, 08:40:31 PM
Always good to see sheep pics, congrats on a nice ram.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: ribka on October 26, 2012, 08:44:12 PM
There were a few nice rams hanging out by Mud Lake 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: buck man on October 26, 2012, 09:11:23 PM
Congrats on your ram. Can't wait till I draw. :tup:
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 26, 2012, 09:19:44 PM
Congrats :tup:
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: C-Money on October 28, 2012, 10:44:06 PM
Congrats! Glad you harvested your ram. :tup:
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: hunting4sanity on October 28, 2012, 11:11:17 PM
Congrats on your ram!  Glad to hear you had a friend to share the experience (and the work) with you.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: BENCHLEG on October 30, 2012, 11:01:15 PM
awesome work congrats someday you all will get a tag. :tup: i gave up on me i have 2 many points lol good luck to all.
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: X-Force on October 30, 2012, 11:21:25 PM
Congrats!
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on October 31, 2012, 06:43:01 AM
this ram came from there last year , If you have the B tag hold out there's a few rams that will push the 165-170 mark .
Title: Re: Clemens Sheep
Post by: coachcw on October 31, 2012, 06:44:08 AM
another angle
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