Post by: 180-GRAIN on June 16, 2012, 09:11:13 AM
Post by: fillthefreezer on June 16, 2012, 09:44:47 AM
Post by: buglebuster on June 16, 2012, 09:57:04 AM
Post by: LivinTheDream on June 16, 2012, 10:00:25 AM
I am looking for something I can wear in the summer on high hunts and in the winter for the extreme elements.
Sorry to pee in your cheerios, but no such thing. FTF, is right think layers. Kuiu offers some great clothing. I do like my sitka, alot of guys dont but mine has held up well. Firstlite also has some nice gear. Overall I think kuiu is running away with the market. Best price, best quality, but ordering from them is tough most of the time they are out of stock.
Post by: 180-GRAIN on June 16, 2012, 11:06:31 AM
Post by: washelkhunter on June 16, 2012, 11:21:06 AM
i would look at what kuiu is offering. others if you don't like theirs. but think layers. wicking (merino, polypro). insulator. hard shell.
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I havent tried kuiu, but i am jonesen for the wool pullover base layer. Im big on wool, polypro and fleece, all garments that you can shake out dry. Wool actually dries out as you are wearing it. If it raining i like a shell thats long enough to sort of act like an umbrella for adove the knees then i just use gaiters. I havent had issues with rivers west. If im going to wear it i just drop down to a base layer and shirt.
Post by: washingtonmuley on June 16, 2012, 11:26:32 AM
You are certainly going to have to invest in layers to do all seasons. You don't need to go and spend thousands on one companies different layering systems. I bought the Sitka ascent jacket and pants last year and was able you use it form 50 degrees to 0 degrees while layering with under armour, mountain hardwear and others. I really like the sitka stuff for hunting up and down the mountains.I am looking for something I can wear in the summer on high hunts and in the winter for the extreme elements.
Sorry to pee in your cheerios, but no such thing. FTF, is right think layers. Kuiu offers some great clothing. I do like my sitka, alot of guys dont but mine has held up well. Firstlite also has some nice gear. Overall I think kuiu is running away with the market. Best price, best quality, but ordering from them is tough most of the time they are out of stock.
Post by: jackelope on June 16, 2012, 12:19:09 PM
Post by: 180-GRAIN on June 16, 2012, 02:56:27 PM
Post by: livnright on June 16, 2012, 03:09:50 PM
Post by: BrushChimp on June 16, 2012, 04:05:23 PM
They are due to come out with their new line featured in their new 'Highlander' pattern. Cutting edge military camo pattern is what it is. Kryptek is owned and operated by servicemen so they know a thing or two about high end performance hunting clothing.
If you're hunting Western Wa I would really look into their new 'Mandrake' pattern. It looks sweet!
http://www.kryptek.com/leaf/
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on June 16, 2012, 08:30:52 PM
I agree with layering. 180... I have the same experience with rivers west, great gear but It has to be cold, or in a stand for me to be comfortable in it. I like my sitka raingear, its held up well and has ventilation options for when I am moving. Its dumb expensive tho and Im not sold that its better than other products that can be had for less. I have never worn it but Kuiu seems like a good option from the look of fabric and materials, the kryptek I mentioned above also seemed very well constructed 3 lam and will see how that works out.
A quality base layer is gonna be what makes or breaks your system and IMO merino is litterally gods gift. I have used, sitkas core, and UA, but if i get wet I get cold and damp. The sitka merino series is nice I have the top but the fabric has not held up well for a garment that cost 100 bucks. The firstlite has held up much better. I have some off brand merino bottoms that rock and cost a fraction of the money, not camo but they work great.
If you choose synthetics the sitka core was the best. I love my UA for working out, but have a couple of their top of the line sets of coldgear for sale if interested :chuckle: When I layer up If im gonna be moving alot in reasonable temps I usually go merino then raingear, or shell. I add mid layers as needed based on temps and activity level.
Post by: WonkyWapiti on June 16, 2012, 08:53:37 PM
Post by: dupedc on June 16, 2012, 10:37:11 PM
http://www.eastmans.com/exclusives/the-6-critical-layers.html
Post by: jbeaumont21 on June 16, 2012, 10:48:53 PM
Post by: 180-GRAIN on June 17, 2012, 12:27:00 PM
Post by: JPhelps on June 17, 2012, 12:39:44 PM
180-grain, the kryptek worked awesome for us last year from the himalayan blackberry patches to the high alpine areas of Eastern Washington. All of my gear is still in great shape and ready to roll this year.
Post by: alecvg on June 17, 2012, 01:06:11 PM
Post by: kentrek on June 20, 2012, 01:53:25 PM
I am looking for something I can wear in the summer on high hunts and in the winter for the extreme elements.
Sorry to pee in your cheerios, but no such thing. FTF, is right think layers. Kuiu offers some great clothing. I do like my sitka, alot of guys dont but mine has held up well. Firstlite also has some nice gear. Overall I think kuiu is running away with the market. Best price, best quality, but ordering from them is tough most of the time they are out of stock.
i disagree,if your hiking the only difference is one light isulating layer and somthing to cut the wind...i pack both for high hunts and winter..
first light :twocents:
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on June 20, 2012, 02:09:56 PM
WWI surplus wool army greens are a bit heavier and nice for fall days.
WWII surplus wool army greens (6 pocket) are warm and repel water better than spendy Filson.
I wear the army green wool heavy shirt as a light outer jacket.
Any of these combined with silk, silkweight or middleweight wool, or poly bottom layers give you choices for your environmental conditions.
Rain and wind gear that is light and packable has been my mode of operation for years.
No... None of what I reference is camo, but I wear that blasted blaze orange vest anyway... And while not camo.. NOTHING beats wool for being quiet in the brush. If I do get wet.. I'll be warm.
Layering works.
-Steve
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 20, 2012, 02:12:07 PM
Post by: jackmaster on June 20, 2012, 02:19:00 PM
Post by: fillthefreezer on June 20, 2012, 03:50:54 PM
Logger boots, levis and hickory shirts. Probably killed more animals dressed like that than any fancy stuff on the market. That's what I wear . :tup:sounds like a good way to end up needing an emergency fire. may work ok when youre close to the truck but you wont find me in deep wearing heavy cotton...
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 20, 2012, 09:04:23 PM
Logger boots, levis and hickory shirts. Probably killed more animals dressed like that than any fancy stuff on the market. That's what I wear . :tup:sounds like a good way to end up needing an emergency fire. may work ok when youre close to the truck but you wont find me in deep wearing heavy cotton...
None of it is heavy cotton.
I do actually wear wool underneath my shirt, wool socks, wool gloves etc. Kinda egging you guys on.............. :chuckle:
Post by: wrongway on June 20, 2012, 09:13:03 PM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on June 20, 2012, 09:37:06 PM
Post by: AKBowman on June 22, 2012, 11:27:37 AM
predator Green Deception all the way, I feel it is the best on the market, I have been using it for several years now and it works good for the west side. Go the there web site and take a look.
I agree!! Only second to Predator Spring Green but they are moving away from the Spring Green and going towards Green Deception. They (Predator) are starting to make better stuff, my cousin works there and he said they are starting to taylor their gear towards the western hunter. They orginally sold to the midwest guys who are mostly fine with cotton.
I bought a set of the pants in the link below last year and they have been outstanding, the klind of pants the more you were them the better they get. They shed water really well and dried out very quickly, are light weight and breathable but do a decent job at cutting the wind. I use the light weight poly henly green deception top and it seems hard to beat for the early archery elk season on the west side. They should soon be coming out with a rain gear line of top and bottom that is in green depception, brown decpetion and predator grey only that is along the lines of the Sitka stuff. The pants being ~$100 and top ~$120.
http://www.predatorcamo.com/lrsStore/ViewProduct/515 (http://www.predatorcamo.com/lrsStore/ViewProduct/515)
Post by: AKBowman on June 22, 2012, 11:31:17 AM
Post by: BrushChimp on June 23, 2012, 07:39:30 AM
If anyone is looking at picking up some used (1 season only) Kryptek sized in Med. and Mountain Mimicry camo, PM me.
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 23, 2012, 07:51:31 AM
Post by: akirkland on June 23, 2012, 10:19:41 AM