Post by: Dave Workman on June 19, 2012, 08:14:57 AM
Where do you prefer hunting grouse...down low for the ruffed grouse
or
Up High for the blues?
Explain... show images...KILL THEM ALL, LET THE CHEF SORT THEM OUT!
Post by: ing on June 19, 2012, 08:38:49 AM
Post by: CP on June 19, 2012, 08:53:48 AM
Post by: bearpaw on June 19, 2012, 08:55:16 AM
Post by: Stilly bay on June 19, 2012, 11:53:15 AM
blue grouse - ruffed grouse- famous grouse... its so hard to choose :dunno:. kinda seasonal for me, I like getting high in september specifically for blues and then mainly stay low for ruffs the rest of the season.
Im going to head to ND and MT this fall and try for prairie grouse. I really want a big bull sage on my wall, maybe I will try for a grouse slam this year.
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Post by: Dave Workman on June 19, 2012, 02:33:26 PM
Send 'em to hell in a frying pan!
Post by: Fishnfowler on June 19, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
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Post by: bobcat on June 19, 2012, 05:16:15 PM
Post by: sebek556 on June 19, 2012, 05:33:51 PM
Post by: smdave on June 19, 2012, 06:12:37 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on June 19, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Blues are best....
Post by: TheSkyBuster on June 19, 2012, 08:40:59 PM
This was the first real bird Beamer ever retrieved
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Post by: Curly on June 20, 2012, 06:48:20 AM
Post by: Special T on June 20, 2012, 10:14:53 AM
Post by: fethrduster on June 20, 2012, 11:37:53 AM
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 20, 2012, 12:01:11 PM
Post by: Fishnfowler on June 20, 2012, 10:41:16 PM
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Here is a rare water retrieve on a grouse
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Post by: Stilly bay on June 21, 2012, 11:52:23 AM
Here is a rare water retrieve on a grouse
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years ago I dropped a grouse just above the Fortsen hole on the stillaguamish. I waited for it to drift through the pool before sending the dog after it, but I still got some dirty looks from the steelheaders :tung:
Post by: Dave Workman on June 25, 2012, 12:27:00 PM
However, with all the page views, I'm wondering of a handful of people keep coming back here because the poll results don't reflect much voting
:bash: :dunno:
Post by: Greg30-06 on June 25, 2012, 02:25:38 PM
Post by: ellensburgpo on June 25, 2012, 03:35:36 PM
Post by: netcoyote on June 25, 2012, 04:03:19 PM
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Post by: Thefisherman83 on June 25, 2012, 04:25:50 PM
Post by: helzbelz888 on June 25, 2012, 05:54:59 PM
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Post by: Special T on June 26, 2012, 10:21:29 AM
Post by: Dave Workman on June 27, 2012, 12:40:06 PM
DAVE W if that is a 22lr 6 shooter on your hip and a side by side in your hands, i would say that would be my Ultimate way to hunt them!
Actually, in the top photo of the second post, I'm packing a .41 Magnum Blackhawk with the double barrel Beretta, and in the lower image, it's a Ruger Vaquero in .45 Colt with a Benelli semi-auto
The image of me with the big handgun...yep, that's a Taurus .22 Magnum.
Post by: ing on June 27, 2012, 02:35:32 PM
I had a .41 mag Blackhawk. It was a great gun, I never should have sold it... Have you shot many grouse with yours?DAVE W if that is a 22lr 6 shooter on your hip and a side by side in your hands, i would say that would be my Ultimate way to hunt them!
Actually, in the top photo of the second post, I'm packing a .41 Magnum Blackhawk with the double barrel Beretta, and in the lower image, it's a Ruger Vaquero in .45 Colt with a Benelli semi-auto
The image of me with the big handgun...yep, that's a Taurus .22 Magnum.
Post by: Dave Workman on June 29, 2012, 07:43:31 PM
I prefer the Dumb Grouse
Ahhh, nice going:
You just published images proving that you had a loaded gun ON a motorized vehicle, which is a no-no under our game regs.
:bdid:
Post by: Dave Workman on June 29, 2012, 07:45:31 PM
I had a .41 mag Blackhawk. It was a great gun, I never should have sold it... Have you shot many grouse with yours?
I've only shot one grouse with a .41 magnum. Really bad idea.
Not much left.
Go with a .22, .32 or .38 at the most.
Post by: Special T on June 29, 2012, 07:48:45 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 29, 2012, 08:18:26 PM
Post by: ing on June 30, 2012, 12:29:01 AM
I got lucky and made a good shot on the one in the pic I posted. Neck shot with a .44mag. He cooked up great for a snack before dinner at camp.I had a .41 mag Blackhawk. It was a great gun, I never should have sold it... Have you shot many grouse with yours?
I've only shot one grouse with a .41 magnum. Really bad idea.
Not much left.
Go with a .22, .32 or .38 at the most.
Post by: netcoyote on June 30, 2012, 01:32:25 PM
Quote
Didn't they make a rule change so that you could use a Rig so that you could "post up" using it as a rest?
From the regs" (page 65)
Loaded Firearms in a Vehicle
"It is illegal to carry, convey, transport, possess,
or control a loaded shotgun or rifle in or on any
motor vehicle. A rifle or shotgun containing shells
or cartridges in either the chamber or magazine,
or a muzzleloading firearm that is loaded and
capped or primed is considered loaded."
It's easy to miss but it's clear. Having a loaded gun on a hood of a rig is technically illegal. Having a "discussion" with a gamie over the logic of this is likely to not be productive. I've heard of guys getting busted for even having a loaded shotgun leaning against a bumper....again, technically ON the vehicle.
Post by: CP on June 30, 2012, 01:50:27 PM
I prefer the Dumb Grouse
Ahhh, nice going:
You just published images proving that you had a loaded gun ON a motorized vehicle, which is a no-no under our game regs.
:bdid:
Did I miss something? There is a mag in the Ruger - but is the mag loaded? No way of telling by the photo -
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 30, 2012, 01:56:50 PM
SpecialT I believe is talking about this law change.
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1 Sec. 28. RCW 77.15.460 and 1999 c 258 s 7 are each amended to read
2 as follows:
3 (1) A person is guilty of unlawful possession of a loaded ((firearm)) rifle or shotgun in a motor vehicle, as defined in
4 in a motor vehicle
5 RCW 46.04.320, or upon an off-road vehicle, as defined in RCW
6 46.04.365, if:
7 (a) The person carries, transports, conveys, possesses, or controls
8 a rifle or shotgun in ((or on)) a motor vehicle, or upon an off-road
9 vehicle, except as allowed by department rule; and
10 (b) The rifle or shotgun contains shells or cartridges in the
11 magazine or chamber, or is a muzzle-loading firearm that is loaded and
12 capped or primed.
13 (2) A person is guilty of unlawful use of a loaded firearm if:
14 (a) The person negligently ((shoots)) discharges a firearm from,
15 across, or along the maintained portion of a public highway; or
16 (b) The person discharges a firearm from within a moving motor
17 vehicle or from upon a moving off-road vehicle.
18 (3) Unlawful possession of a loaded ((firearm in)) rifle or shotgun
19 in a motor vehicle or upon an off-road vehicle, and unlawful use of a
20 loaded firearm ((is a)) are misdemeanors.
21 (4) This section does not apply if the person:
22 (a) Is a law enforcement officer who is authorized to carry a
23 firearm and is on duty within the officer's respective jurisdiction;
24 (b) Possesses a disabled hunter's permit as provided by RCW
25 77.32.237 and complies with all rules of the department concerning
26 hunting by persons with disabilities; or
27 (c) Discharges the rifle or shotgun from upon a nonmoving motor
28 vehicle or a nonmoving off-road vehicle, as long as the engine is
29 turned off and the motor vehicle or off-road vehicle is not parked on
30 or beside the maintained portion of a public road, except as authorized
31 by the commission by rule.
32 (5) For purposes of subsection (1) of this section, a ((firearm))
33 rifle or shotgun shall not be considered loaded if the detachable clip
34 or magazine is not inserted in or attached to the ((firearm)) rifle or
35 shotgun.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2011-12/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Law%202012/6135-S.SL.pdf (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2011-12/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Law%202012/6135-S.SL.pdf)
Post by: smdave on June 30, 2012, 09:09:02 PM
I prefer the Dumb Grouse
Ahhh, nice going:
You just published images proving that you had a loaded gun ON a motorized vehicle, which is a no-no under our game regs.
:bdid:
Did I miss something? There is a mag in the Ruger - but is the mag loaded? No way of telling by the photo -
Post by: fethrduster on July 03, 2012, 08:13:46 AM
Post by: Greg30-06 on July 03, 2012, 09:35:00 AM
Post by: runamuk on July 03, 2012, 09:13:09 PM
Post by: ing on July 04, 2012, 10:55:36 AM
Post by: ellensburgpo on July 04, 2012, 01:56:00 PM
So...... I what do you guys say we start talkin about grouse again???? Only two more months and we can start shootin 'em :tup:
Good plan. I saw a couple real nic blues this morning while scouting for elk. Seems like the are always around when you're not hunting them. Soon though...
Post by: Ellensburg on July 12, 2012, 08:56:42 PM
I like all of the pictures and i see nothing wrong with any of them. Good job fellow grousers.
Post by: Dave Workman on July 13, 2012, 04:42:18 PM
I think a more interesting poll would be how many guys just drive around and shoot grouse from the road vs. getting out on foot and actually hunting for them?
Nah...that's a bigger no-no.
:chuckle:
And for those who believe I'm playing "internet cop,' what I'm actually doing is educational...and trying to keep people from getting pinched.
Back in my early days at the old Fishing & Hunting News, we ran a photo of a guy with a beautiful elk he supposedly killed somewhere open to hunting, but a sharp-eyed game cop looked at the image, determined the vegetation was wrong and could only grow in a certain area.. and he actually found the spot where this numbskull had killed the animal inside Mount Rainier National Park.
I'd rather not see that sort of thing happen to anybody here.
So, watch them images. Be sure to be legal before you push the camera clicker.
And send your photos to NORTHWEST SPORTSMAN magazine.
Post by: 87Ford on July 15, 2012, 06:49:48 PM
Post by: LiveandLearn on July 16, 2012, 01:25:38 PM
Post by: bearpaw on July 16, 2012, 02:52:11 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on July 16, 2012, 05:51:24 PM
Post by: Dave Workman on July 18, 2012, 05:30:18 PM
few more grouse...
Geez Dale...
I could really learn to hate a guy who finds this kind of grouse hunting.
:chuckle:
And today I got an assignment from one of my regular magazines to test a handsome new import O/U shotgun. I am hoping it shows up in time for the grouse opener.
YEE HAW!!!!!
Post by: Glockster on July 31, 2012, 08:25:49 AM
Post by: Dave Workman on July 31, 2012, 04:44:56 PM
I will help you test that new gun.....i might just buy it if it passes the rigorous Workman testing. :)
That's just possible!
I'm waiting to hear from the gun company when they ship the sucker.
31 DAYS TO GO!!!!!
Yee Haw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :tup:
Post by: NW-GSP on July 31, 2012, 05:02:01 PM
few more grouse...
holy cow those look like chickens by the size of them! nice job
Post by: Glockster on August 01, 2012, 06:47:05 AM
Post by: Dave Workman on August 01, 2012, 10:21:55 AM
I'll be over at last year's spot this weekend checking things out. :drool:
10-4
I'll know shortly whether that test gun will arrive in time. I have to work the Puyallup gun show so enjoy the weekend!
I've been depressed lately. I'll feel much better after I kill something :chuckle: :IBCOOL:
30 DAYS AND COUNTING!!!!!!
Post by: Stilly bay on August 01, 2012, 12:17:29 PM
And today I got an assignment from one of my regular magazines to test a handsome new import O/U shotgun. I am hoping it shows up in time for the grouse opener.
what a lucky
any hints as to who makes this new fowling piece? or are you going to leave us hanging?
Post by: Dave Workman on August 01, 2012, 04:25:58 PM
And today I got an assignment from one of my regular magazines to test a handsome new import O/U shotgun. I am hoping it shows up in time for the grouse opener.
what a luckyWHOREguy :chuckle:
any hints as to who makes this new fowling piece? or are you going to leave us hanging?
Any jerkwad who calls me a
:chuckle:
For the rest of you, this is a new O/U import from Mossberg and it's a beaut, from what I am told. The test piece is a 12-ga but they are also available in 20- and .410, from what I am told.
I'll post images with dead things when they become available.
:tup: :IBCOOL: :tup:
Post by: Stilly bay on August 01, 2012, 04:39:38 PM
And today I got an assignment from one of my regular magazines to test a handsome new import O/U shotgun. I am hoping it shows up in time for the grouse opener.
what a luckyWHOREguy :chuckle:
any hints as to who makes this new fowling piece? or are you going to leave us hanging?
Any jerkwad who calls me awhorecan't possibly hang too far.
:chuckle:
For the rest of you, this is a new O/U import from Mossberg and it's a beaut, from what I am told. The test piece is a 12-ga but they are also available in 20- and .410, from what I am told.
I'll post images with dead things when they become available.
:tup: :IBCOOL: :tup:
:chuckle: I figured since you were an outdoor writer I wouldn't be the first jerkwad to call you a
Im sure you can't divulge much at the moment... but do you think this newest offering will be a step up from mossberg's silver reserve and onyx series? I wasn't too impressed with the clunkers they were churning out.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on August 01, 2012, 08:18:01 PM
Post by: Special T on August 01, 2012, 08:35:28 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on August 01, 2012, 08:49:44 PM
Post by: Glockster on August 02, 2012, 08:17:38 AM
Post by: Dave Workman on August 02, 2012, 12:04:43 PM
:chuckle: I figured since you were an outdoor writer I wouldn't be the first jerkwad to call you awhore:chuckle:
Im sure you can't divulge much at the moment... but do you think this newest offering will be a step up from mossberg's silver reserve and onyx series? I wasn't too impressed with the clunkers they were churning out.
Not much to divulge and I wouldn't to you, anyway. I don't trade words with jerkwads who call me a
I find that offensive.
Now, just toss $50 on the dresser and we can be friends again
:chuckle:
Post by: Stilly bay on August 02, 2012, 12:33:07 PM
:chuckle: I figured since you were an outdoor writer I wouldn't be the first jerkwad to call you awhore:chuckle:
Im sure you can't divulge much at the moment... but do you think this newest offering will be a step up from mossberg's silver reserve and onyx series? I wasn't too impressed with the clunkers they were churning out.
Not much to divulge and I wouldn't to you, anyway. I don't trade words with jerkwads who call me awhore
I find that offensive.
Now, just toss $50 on the dresser and we can be friends again
:chuckle:
sorry Dave, never meant to offend you, it was really some light hearted ribbing. I know a couple outdoor writers that openly admit and joke about their whorish ways, I guess you guys are in different leagues. my bad for assuming otherwise.
does your dresser accept pay pal?
Post by: Glockster on August 03, 2012, 10:32:36 AM
Post by: Dave Workman on August 03, 2012, 10:47:52 AM
Post by: Fishnfowler on August 04, 2012, 11:28:32 PM
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Post by: fethrduster on August 06, 2012, 01:06:00 PM
Post by: ML_Hunter on August 06, 2012, 01:38:40 PM
Post by: Glockster on August 06, 2012, 03:07:24 PM
Post by: Stilly bay on August 06, 2012, 03:16:46 PM
I'm surprised how many new o/u models keep coming out. You would think the market is glutted with them by now.
oh it is, now the niche they are trying to fill is the "affordable" (reads cheap) gun every day joe's can buy, some of these guns are almost disposable they are put together so poorly.
gun manufacturers found out if you can slap two heavy barrels on top of each other and find a good stout chunk of 2x4 for the stock and then raise the price point up to around $500 ( if it costs more it must be better) for these guns people will be standing in line for them like government cheese. IMO the mossberg silver reserve is a prime example.
there are some O/U's that are tremendous value at around $500 - even less, but the mossbergs are not one of them. also for a gun company that boasts about being made in america I don't know why they stooped to getting these O/U and SxS's made in russia and now Turkey...I would run from a mossberg O/U like my balls were on fire.
Post by: Dave Workman on August 07, 2012, 09:21:10 AM
Lot's of O/U's out there......just none in my price range until now.
Ahh, well, one just arrived sort of at my friendly FFL.....
:IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Post by: Dave Workman on August 07, 2012, 09:22:07 AM
I just found this one from last year.
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How the hell did you ever manage to catch that bird sleeping?
:chuckle:
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on August 07, 2012, 12:22:36 PM
Post by: Dave Workman on August 07, 2012, 07:35:31 PM
I started putting out trail cams on one of my leases last week-end and saw LOTS of both Blues and Ruffs. Looks like a good year!!
NOW you're talking, Rick!
I may have to come up there and bring some law 'n order to them thunderchickens...
Post by: Dave Workman on August 15, 2012, 04:21:25 AM
Sixteen days to go!
YEE HAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!
Post by: MikeWalking on August 15, 2012, 04:48:58 AM
Hmm The 16 GA wont break down but the 20 GA might pack on the motorcycle...
Post by: Special T on August 15, 2012, 01:34:46 PM
Post by: MikeWalking on August 15, 2012, 02:01:37 PM
Mike if your using a motorcycle you don't need a shot gun! I've plenty of limits of grouse because they liked the front spokes of my bike! :chuckle:
Maybe a rag tied a spoke with a little "grouse bait" :chuckle:
Post by: Cougar125 on August 15, 2012, 02:57:33 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on August 15, 2012, 04:06:10 PM
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Post by: Dhoey07 on August 15, 2012, 04:52:14 PM
I'm surprised how many new o/u models keep coming out. You would think the market is glutted with them by now.
oh it is, now the niche they are trying to fill is the "affordable" (reads cheap) gun every day joe's can buy, some of these guns are almost disposable they are put together so poorly.
gun manufacturers found out if you can slap two heavy barrels on top of each other and find a good stout chunk of 2x4 for the stock and then raise the price point up to around $500 ( if it costs more it must be better) for these guns people will be standing in line for them like government cheese. IMO the mossberg silver reserve is a prime example.
there are some O/U's that are tremendous value at around $500 - even less, but the mossbergs are not one of them. also for a gun company that boasts about being made in america I don't know why they stooped to getting these O/U and SxS's made in russia and now Turkey...I would run from a mossberg O/U like my balls were on fire.
I ain't no gun snob. I'll shoot grouse with my o/u stoeger all day long!
Post by: Stilly bay on August 15, 2012, 05:31:05 PM
I'm surprised how many new o/u models keep coming out. You would think the market is glutted with them by now.
oh it is, now the niche they are trying to fill is the "affordable" (reads cheap) gun every day joe's can buy, some of these guns are almost disposable they are put together so poorly.
gun manufacturers found out if you can slap two heavy barrels on top of each other and find a good stout chunk of 2x4 for the stock and then raise the price point up to around $500 ( if it costs more it must be better) for these guns people will be standing in line for them like government cheese. IMO the mossberg silver reserve is a prime example.
there are some O/U's that are tremendous value at around $500 - even less, but the mossbergs are not one of them. also for a gun company that boasts about being made in america I don't know why they stooped to getting these O/U and SxS's made in russia and now Turkey...I would run from a mossberg O/U like my balls were on fire.
I ain't no gun snob. I'll shoot grouse with my o/u stoeger all day long!
I am glad reading comp is still going strong in WA. no where did I mention stoeger or any other value priced gun besides mossberg in my post. I even said there are some good ones at that price point and lower.
there are some O/U's that are tremendous value at around $500 - even less, but the mossbergs are not one of them.
If snob means someone who won't throw away his money on a clunky disposable shotgun, then a snob I am.
Post by: Dave Workman on August 15, 2012, 06:26:26 PM
Here's a sooty grouse from a couple weeks ago up in the Mt Rainier area.
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"Sooty" grouse?
That's a BLUE grouse....and the dumb asses who decided arbitrarily to change it to something else ought to be dragged nekkid up and down the rocky bottom of the Cispus River.
I heard some dipstick refer to them as "dusky" grouse too.
These ignorant pricks. They ought to go practice game biology on another continent.
Nice image, though. Telephoto lens, eh?
Post by: bobcat on August 15, 2012, 07:57:49 PM
"Sooty" grouse?
That's a BLUE grouse....and the dumb asses who decided arbitrarily to change it to something else ought to be dragged nekkid up and down the rocky bottom of the Cispus River.
I heard some dipstick refer to them as "dusky" grouse too.
These ignorant pricks. They ought to go practice game biology on another continent.
:chuckle: I'll never get used to the change either. They'll always be blue grouse to me. But they split them into two separate species, dusky grouse and sooty grouse.
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Grouse Ecology
Dusky and Sooty Grouse (Blue Grouse) Ecology
Dusky grouse and sooty grouse were first described by Lewis and Clark in the early 1800s. In the 1900s, they were combined into a single ‘blue grouse’ species. In 2006, the American Ornithologists Union ‘split’ the blue grouse into the dusky and sooty grouse. Despite the name change, dusky and sooty grouse can be difficult for many people to recognize. The two species have subtle differences in appearance and behavior and little overlap in distribution; sooty grouse generally are found in the relatively moist west-side habitats, while dusky grouse occupy drier east-side habitats.
Dusky and sooty grouse are found throughout western North America. Their range extends from the southern portions of Alaska and the Yukon, south along the Pacific Coast to northern California and east to the Rocky Mountains (New Mexico to Alberta). In Washington, dusky and sooty grouse are found in mountainous areas wherever open coniferous forests are present. They are closely associated with true fir and Douglas fir forests in winter and habitats that are often more open during summer.
Male dusky and sooty grouse perform a hooting display when they are on breeding territories during the spring. Each hooting display consists of a sequence of 5-7 low frequency ‘hoots’ that are detectable from 100 meters (dusky grouse) to more than 2 kilometers (sooty grouse). The males of both species also utter a single ‘whoot’ note when they are displaying to a female that is detectable from about 2 kilometers. Male dusky grouse perform a ‘flutter jump’ which is a loud flight that is detectable from about 1 kilometer. Male sooty grouse exhibit a similar behavior called ‘landing on loud wing’ display where they create an unusually loud noise at the end of a short flight, often while landing in a tree.
Post by: Curly on August 15, 2012, 08:03:01 PM
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Post by: Glockster on August 16, 2012, 07:28:36 AM
Up in Alaska, we call them hooters and shoot them with 22's in the spring time. "Oh the horror".
Post by: KopperBuck on August 16, 2012, 08:13:06 AM
Post by: Shoffy on August 16, 2012, 05:28:02 PM
I love me some BLUE GROUSE though. I would shoot Blues over Ruffed Grouse any day.
Cant wait till Sept. 1st!!!!
Post by: Dhoey07 on August 16, 2012, 05:31:25 PM
They will always be a "Blue Grouse" to me.... However you can totally tell the difference between the 2 species. The "Dusky Grouse" are more gray and the "Sooty Grouse" are more brown. We've ALL shot both of them and probably not even paid attention and I'm sure they taste the same too.
I love me some BLUE GROUSE though. I would shoot Blues over Ruffed Grouse any day.
Cant wait till Sept. 1st!!!!
That's funny, I'd take a ruff any day of the week over a blue!
Post by: Shoffy on August 16, 2012, 05:38:02 PM
They will always be a "Blue Grouse" to me.... However you can totally tell the difference between the 2 species. The "Dusky Grouse" are more gray and the "Sooty Grouse" are more brown. We've ALL shot both of them and probably not even paid attention and I'm sure they taste the same too.
I love me some BLUE GROUSE though. I would shoot Blues over Ruffed Grouse any day.
Cant wait till Sept. 1st!!!!
That's funny, I'd take a ruff any day of the week over a blue!
Really??? Theres so much more meat to a blue than a ruffed. Don't get me wrong, anytime I see a ruffed grouse between sept 1 - dec 31 he's a goner....
Post by: Dave Workman on August 17, 2012, 10:53:30 AM
:yike: :mgun: :mgun2:
YEEEEEEE HAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!
Post by: grundy53 on August 17, 2012, 11:04:13 AM
If you ever hear me call them sooty or dusky, please slap me........ 8) :):yeah:
Post by: KopperBuck on August 17, 2012, 12:21:52 PM
Post by: buckfvr on August 17, 2012, 12:24:41 PM
Post by: Dhoey07 on August 17, 2012, 12:24:57 PM
They will always be a "Blue Grouse" to me.... However you can totally tell the difference between the 2 species. The "Dusky Grouse" are more gray and the "Sooty Grouse" are more brown. We've ALL shot both of them and probably not even paid attention and I'm sure they taste the same too.
I love me some BLUE GROUSE though. I would shoot Blues over Ruffed Grouse any day.
Cant wait till Sept. 1st!!!!
That's funny, I'd take a ruff any day of the week over a blue!
Really??? Theres so much more meat to a blue than a ruffed. Don't get me wrong, anytime I see a ruffed grouse between sept 1 - dec 31 he's a goner....
I'd take either one too!!! But if i had the choice, ruff's all the way. Less meat but lighter colored, tastier meat :twocents:
Post by: Dhoey07 on August 17, 2012, 12:25:46 PM
14 DAYS TO GO!
:yike: :mgun: :mgun2:
YEEEEEEE HAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!
15 days for me. Gotta watch my Dawgs play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: grundy53 on August 17, 2012, 01:17:42 PM
Post by: Dave Workman on August 17, 2012, 01:45:58 PM
:chuckle: I'll never get used to the change either. They'll always be blue grouse to me. But they split them into two separate species, dusky grouse and sooty grouse.
Nothing to get used to. These jerks didn't get my permission, nor did they consult with me before arbitrarily deciding to do this. Screw them. Their dusky sooty crap doesn't register. Doesn't count. :bash:
Blue grouse is blue grouse. Always have been, always will be.
:tup: :tup: :tup:
Post by: Lee Root on August 17, 2012, 09:18:23 PM
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The name game..seriously getting upset because they changed the name?
These are spruce, francolin, or fools hens. Are you upset because they are known by three different names?
Post by: Stilly bay on August 17, 2012, 09:38:43 PM
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The name game..seriously getting upset because they changed the name?
These are spruce, francolin, or fools hens. Are you upset because they are known by three different names?
Them's is ruffed grouse....but mostly them's is D-E-A-D grouse. :IBCOOL:
Post by: Dave Workman on August 20, 2012, 04:19:00 PM
stupid jerk biologists, what the hell do they know anyway? I bet Obama had something to do with the name change :puke::yeah:
Damn straight.
It's a conspiracy!!!
Eleven days to go
Yowzah
Post by: Lee Root on August 20, 2012, 06:21:44 PM
Post by: Stilly bay on August 21, 2012, 09:17:56 AM
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The name game..seriously getting upset because they changed the name?
These are spruce, francolin, or fools hens. Are you upset because they are known by three different names?
Them's is ruffed grouse....but mostly them's is D-E-A-D grouse. :IBCOOL:
Look again Dave, They are spruce grouse. Look at the breast of the one in Addy's mouth.
I think he meant to say " Them's is rough grouse..." as in rough looking - Lee please smooth out the feathers on your birds before a photo shoot. :chuckle:
Post by: singleshot12 on August 23, 2012, 03:14:07 PM
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Post by: Forrestrover.02 on August 31, 2012, 06:10:23 PM
Post by: TONTO on August 31, 2012, 07:16:00 PM
First pic was from a few years back. Two blue and a rough, they flushed from down hill and I managed to get two with the ol single shot on the wing. The third landed uphill, so I hiked up and kicked it outa bed it flushed down hill and dropped it right where the other two were laying. Last year of the three grouse limit.
Next pic is from last year, popped a double on two ruffs with my late uncle's old auto5.
Almost forgot grouse opened up tomarrow. Damn month of sept, now I can't decide what to do, arrow a deer shoot some grouse or go catch some TUNA!
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on September 01, 2012, 09:51:20 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 01, 2012, 10:19:01 PM
Post by: Dave Workman on September 03, 2012, 08:14:52 PM
Went out on the opener with Glockster and we brought law and order to the rogue thunder chickens. Saw a fair number of birds, and we introduced them to 20-gauge No. 6s.
Post by: Fishnfowler on September 03, 2012, 08:37:13 PM
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Post by: Dave Workman on September 04, 2012, 04:24:19 AM
I managed to put one in the bag. I made a snap shot as it zipped through an opening and I saw it angle down, but not fall hard. I sent my dog after it and she came out with the bird. As I was reaching out for it, another launched out of a tree about 20 yards behind me. I managed to whiff two shots at it and watched it sail off for another day.
Yeah, tell me about it. I also got surprised by a few that I didn't even fire at.
But on the upside, it appears that on the east slope, blue grouse had a pretty good hatch. We only saw one brood of ruffed grouse and they were pretty young.
As we all know, it is really...REALLY dry. We hunted as close to water sources as possible. But when I got home and washed my truck, there was enough dirt to start a new vegetable garden! :chuckle:
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On another note, I am disturbed by the snail's pace at which the Forest Service is repairing road damage on Manastash Creek. They can spend a fortune BLOCKING roads (and we found a couple where they did just that, perhaps to prevent some folks from getting around the washouts via 4WD) but they haven't seemed to put in the same amount of enterprise getting roads back open.
One of the main routes across the Taneum was blocked, and the road between Manastash camp and Buck Meadows is STILL not open, 18 months after the washouts.
Post by: Forrestrover.02 on September 04, 2012, 10:05:48 PM
Love the stories and pics. Keep them coming!
Post by: Special T on September 05, 2012, 09:44:51 AM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on September 05, 2012, 09:57:10 AM
Post by: Major Caruncles on September 05, 2012, 02:42:44 PM
Post by: Forrestrover.02 on September 05, 2012, 09:45:19 PM
Forrest rover, I would have got it with the front spoke of my wheel! :chuckle: nice bird. :tup:Ha Ha... I like your thinking, Special T!
Major Caruncles, 10 or 12 grouse sightings in a weekend doesn't sound too bad! Congrats on the birds that you shot! :)
Post by: Dave Workman on September 06, 2012, 08:32:57 PM
Nobody can criticize this guy's ability as a wingshooter.
I cannot, however, brag about his choice of hunting partners. :chuckle:
I will now discuss our table fare: Grouse Parmesan. We boiled up a good pot of angel hair pasta, then turned it down to simmer and added an ample amount of Ragu (your mileage may vary, and you may want to use something else).
While Brian cut up some fresh onion from my garden and crushed up a fresh garlic clove, I breasted out two of our birds from the opener, both blue grouse (not "dusky" or "sooty" but definitely dead) and added them to the pot, turning up the heat. The breasts cooked up in a few minutes and then we dug in, after sprinkling everything with ground Parmesan. Delicious.
It's even tastier if one adds a bit of sea salt and/or seasoning salt to the breasts a few minutes before cooking. And, for those who might like a glazed surface, stick the breasts over an open flame just long enough to brown up the surface, and then drop them into the pot with pasta and sauce. Be quick because one does not wish to over-cook a grouse breast.
Post by: Dave Workman on September 06, 2012, 08:43:23 PM
We saw two blues and a ruffed today, but were hunting for bear and/or deer, so they are still alive.
And we're to also presume the deer and bear likewise continue walking on this side of the grass?
Post by: TheSkyBuster on September 14, 2012, 01:29:38 PM
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Post by: Glockster on September 14, 2012, 01:45:34 PM