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Equipment & Gear => All Other Gear => Topic started by: ghosthunter on July 05, 2015, 07:47:14 PM
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Well itching to get out and try out my new 10X12 wall tent and Three dog stove. But with work,family and weather just cant get away right now. So I set down today and scanned every wall tent and stove thread on here up to page 57.
Lots of good info. But thought, sure be great if all those great ideas were on one thread. :drool:
Seems like a lot of guys took up wall tents in the past five years on here. So what is your best wall tent or wall tent stove tips? After the purchase.
What did you learn after you bought your tent and used it a while?
Maybe we can help the new guys who are thinking of buying one.
Lets try to only address canvas wall tents and stoves you can use in them.
Maybe this could become a sticky at the top of the page for easy reference by new Wall Tenters.
Tip....Never ever put your tent away wet.
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Will be following!
I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.
There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.
Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.
Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.
A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.
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Always buy bigger than what you think you need.
Get a 6-8 foot 1/2 piece of pipe, hang it from your rafters down about a foot from both ends . Makes a perfect clothes line.. Bring hangers and hang wet clothes up
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Always buy bigger than what you think you need.
Get a 6-8 foot 1/2 piece of pipe, hang it from your rafters down about a foot from both ends . Makes a perfect clothes line.. Bring hangers and hang wet clothes up
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And make sure it is dry before you put it away.
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Always buy bigger than what you think you need.
Get a 6-8 foot 1/2 piece of pipe, hang it from your rafters down about a foot from both ends . Makes a perfect clothes line.. Bring hangers and hang wet clothes up
Now that's a good idea.
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Will be following!
I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.
There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.
Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.
Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.
A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.
What stove?
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Will be following!
I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.
There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.
Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.
Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.
A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.
Never cook inside of your tent because everything that is in it will smell like what you cooked.
Dig a trench around your tent to keep rain water from coming inside.
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My tent has a snap in floor. I wanted to protect it from sparks out front of stove.
Looked at several options and decided on a flexible semi ridge mat for under you BQ.
This one is spark resistant and about 3 ft square. Figure to just load it flat in bed of my truck. Has a hole for a handle.
Another thing I came up with. I am going to set the stove up in the tent at home on the mat. Once everything is located as it should me. I am going to mark the location of the mat on the tent floor with a sharpie. Also mark the locTion of stove legs on mat.
That should speed upset up in camp.
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Will be following!
I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.
There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.
Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.
Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.
A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.
Never cook inside of your tent because everything that is in it will smell like what you cooked.
Dig a trench around your tent to keep rain water from coming inside.
Yeah my plan is to cook outside or in the group camps we have a cook shack.
I have never trenches around a tent mainly because I always use a rain fly that goes out away from the tent.
I made a tarp rain fly for my new tent with stove pipe cut out . It hangs 12 inches on back 6 ft on front. And 16 inches of each side.
Many guys don't use the tarp. I like it because it has always kept my tents cleaner and dry inside. It also in heavy rain channels water out away from tent sides.
I am confident my new tent is water proof because I hosed it down good and the water beaded and ran off. The fly just add more protection.
I also hang my fly differnt than most. It only May touch the ridge other wise it is 12 inches above the canvas. Allows good air flow and lets canvas breath.
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When I cut out my tarp for stove flap I lined it on all sides with this heat duck tape.
Figured it would ad extra strength.
I also added a flap of heavy vinyl to cover it if not using stove.(note shown)
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Always stake it down, all the way around the bottom as well as ropes off the side.
2 years ago in a nasty rain and wind storm, I came back from a morning hunt to find my 12x14 tent 30ft away and upside down. I did have all the ropes staked down but the ground was to hard on part of it and couldn't get all of the bottom.
The other thing I do, for my floor I bought a tarp the size of my tent and fold 1/3 back under its self so the entry way and stove are dirt. This allows for me to have a place to take off boots or wet closes etc and not get my floor all nasty. I also have small chunks of carpet at the bed sides.
My wood stove has a 3 Gal water tank on it, I dig a cereal bowl size hole under the spout so the water can gather to seep into the dirt or a place to dump coffee or whatever.
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Storage is always at a premium. This only works for interior framed tents. I cut some plywood in 6 inch planks and slightly longer than the distance between 2 poles. I then used a circle bit to notch out the plank (half circle) on one side where it then is lined up to two poles. Drill holes on both sides of the plank for 550 cord and then hang them tied off above the cot in that space. Nothing heavy, but headlamps, ammo, beanie hat, bowl n spoon etc.
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If its the 1st time setting it up. Wet it down with the hose once you get it staked down and let it dry on the frame. It will fit your frame so much better after sitting rolled up for a year. Sounds weird I know but trust me
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If its the 1st time setting it up. Wet it down with the hose once you get it staked down and let it dry on the frame. It will fit your frame so much better after sitting rolled up for a year. Sounds weird I know but trust me
I believe that. Read some where that canvas will Relax after a couple days.
Saw a video of a guy who stretched a tent 5-6 inches by puting blocks under.the legs every couple days an staking it tight.
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Will be following!
I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.
There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.
Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.
Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.
A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.
What stove?
I decided to go with a kni-co Alaskan Jr. Partly due to being on a budget. I read a lot between the four dog and kni-co stoves. The four dog seems to be superior, but I thought I'd try my luck with the kni-co. So we'll see. Tent is 10x14.
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I second trenching the tent. I don't care what kind of tarp you have, when the big thunder storm soaker rain comes through, and it has to me multiple times over 35 years of wall tenting, you will think you are on the set of the movie "a river runs through it" if you don't trench at the edges of the walls. This is especially true if there's any kind of uphill slope nearby. Take my word for it. If you have a floor that isn't completely waterproof it will get damp eventually. Make the trench. Also, bring mouse traps. Nothing is more irritating than a mouse or chipmunk scratching around at 0200 after you hiked 10 miles today. The "snap" and squeak is a very satisfying sound.
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:yeah:100 percent agree
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post use DRY and store, I suspend in garage in bag with a sash of mothballs in each tent bag to keep out rodents or your tent can quickly get chewed up!
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I put chair rubbers on my tent legs to protect the sod cloth from downward weight.
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When using the wood stove, I cover the wall behind the stove with a mylar sheet. This reflects heat and keeps the wall cool. Mylar on the wall opposite the stove makes it feel like you have a second stove in the tent and you dont have to move the stuff you have hanging to dry.
I no longer use the stove mounted water heater, (too much steam) we have a 20 qt pot with spout and lid. Preheat on the camp chef then bring in for simmer if needed. A five gallon water jug (insulated) keeps warm water on hand for washing dirty fingers away from the tent.
Large cots have 18" of room under them for duffel bag storage.
Shovel a couple scoops of soil into the stove prior to using. This insulates the bottom metal.
Note... trenching is a good idea. Pay attention to drainage, I've returned to water flowing under the floor tarp due to the two track above us not having a diversion. Quick fix but I should have seen it coming. All stayed dry with the floor tarp on top the sod cloth.
When the weather cools down some the flame baffle is coming out of the new stove. It effects loading and restricts the burn.
Stake it down. As mentioned in another post. Watch for widow makers. Lodge pole thickets make good wind breaks and fit in the stove without splitting.
Edit to add: SECURE THE STOVE JACK FLAP and keep an eye on it. A friend burned his camp down due to if touching the stove pipe one season.
T
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Mylar umm Good idea.
How many guys use something behind their stoves to protect the wall?
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Mylar umm Good idea.
How many guys use something behind their stoves to protect the wall?
Ghost,
I use the mylar for a heat reflector first. The fact that the frost stays on the wall outside convinced me that it works very well for that. I have had the wood stoves and pipe glowing in an effort to dry things out and I believe the high temps can't be good for the canvas.
The mylar would prevent drying this portion of the wall too, so remember to take it down and let the walls dry prior to folding and storage.
T
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if the canvas isn't sealed, set it up when the weather will be warm and dry for a few days. Then take your garden sprayer and fill it with Thompsons original and spray it down good.
Then it will last much longer! Otherwise they can rot out real fast.
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Mylar umm Good idea.
How many guys use something behind their stoves to protect the wall?
I had two stove jacks installed in my tent when I bought it from Davis, one just to the right and 2/3rds to the front and the other in the front right side wall. When i setup the stove to the use the stove jack in the side wall it does get really hot on the canvas and i starting using a sheet of aluminum to block the heat, but I found its easier to heat the whole tent with using less wood when the stove is in the center of the tent.
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If space is a premium--mine usually is--then getting stuff off the floor has helped. The first and last photos are a simple system for hanging stuff (packs, bows, etc.). The second 2 photos are a clothes rack that lets clothes dry by the stove and gets them out of the way. I also use bright colored line/rope for staking out the walls to help avoid tripping/collisions.
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I used scrap wood to make a nice looking gun rack that attaches with bolts to the end of one cot. The other cot received a drying rack made from PVC. Both projects were $0 out of pocket.
Bring/cut about 3x the amount of wood you think you need.
Bring good food to cook, with daylight during the winter months in the north you will have plenty of time after dark. Also bring games to play.
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Anyone know where I can get a stove jack retro-installed in a tent and tarp? I already own the tent and tarp, would be willing to send it out if needed but prefer in state.
Bravo, site sponsor, from Camas Washington works on all makes of tents to do repairs and modifications.
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Anyone know where I can get a stove jack retro-installed in a tent and tarp? I already own the tent and tarp, would be willing to send it out if needed but prefer in state.
Bravo, site sponsor, from Camas Washington works on all makes of tents to do repairs and modifications.
Called them last week for stove jack install. Said he is pretty well booked up and busy thru October or somewhere close to there.
Beckel Canvas co in portland also does em. I'll b taking mine there tomorrow. They said 3-4 week turn around.
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Anyone know where I can get a stove jack retro-installed in a tent and tarp? I already own the tent and tarp, would be willing to send it out if needed but prefer in state.
I ordered a stove jack on line and took it to my local upholstery guy for our cook shack.
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Anyone know where I can get a stove jack retro-installed in a tent and tarp? I already own the tent and tarp, would be willing to send it out if needed but prefer in state.
I ordered a stove jack on line and took it to my local upholstery guy for our cook shack.
Good idea there, maybe a guy that does boat tops or something like that could get it done and be closer to you.
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I use snap hooks on the end of my guy lines, tie a good permanent knot to the snap hook and then use the snap hook to attach to the grommet or in my case D ring on the eaves, saves time setting up and is much easier than untying wet or frozen rope.
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I use ratcheting motorcycle straps as tie down ropes. They get it really tight and if they loosen just a couple of clicks and you are tight again, no need to untie and retie the ropes. I just bought 5 four packs at Big Lots for $7 or $8 a four pack.
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I use snap hooks on the end of my guy lines, tie a good permanent knot to the snap hook and then use the snap hook to attach to the grommet or in my case D ring on the eaves, saves time setting up and is much easier than untying wet or frozen rope.
Or just leave the lines tied (permanently) to the D ring/eve end with a bowline hitch and put a taught line hitch on the stake end that can be adjusted when things loosen up.
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My tent came with eve grommets and reinforced plastic eve loops.
I tied a bowline loop on end of each guy rope than snapped in a carabiner.
At set up or take Dow I just snap the guy lines on and off as needed.
The other end has the loop created by the tensioner. I just slip that over my metal stakes.
Things loosen up I just adjust the tensioner.
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http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Canvas+Wall+Tents&Form=VQFRVP#view=detail&mid=0F67C5279BDA23177EB70F67C5279BDA23177EB7
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Who uses a propane lantern in their wall tent?
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Who uses a propane lantern in their wall tent?
I have a row of construction lights down the center of my tent that I run off of a generator. I also hang two battery powered fluorescent lanterns for temporary use. The construction lights are what I use at night for dinner, the lanterns are for first thing in the morning and stoking the fire in the middle of the night.
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I have never used a propane lantern in my. Tents. I have used a big buddy.
Our cook shack which is a Costco canopy we use two lanterns on trees in there.
But in my sleep tents I have only used battery lights.
I often put a lantern on a tree about 5 ft in front of the tent. And the glow from that lights up the tent some.
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I use a homemade gravity feed pellet stove. No cutting or splitting wood in my camp! I have to admit though sometimes its hard to beat a good woodstove.
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Wow
What's that baby weigh?
How many pellets you go through in a week.?
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Weighs about 40lbs maybe and goes thru about a bag every 2 days. I probably buy 5 to 6 bags for a 2week period. Clarry made the first generation but didnt do well in higher elevations. I nearly have it perfected.
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Who uses a propane lantern in their wall tent?
The new LED lanterns are my new fav for inside the tent.
Propane in the cook shack.
Three months to go. I can hardly wait.
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I use that green astroturf found in hardware stores. Two side by side strips. One shorter so there will be bare ground under the stove.
I put sand and gravel at the bottom of the stove so the bottom does not get hot. Also adds weight so it does not tip. My water heater does not steam. I cook on the stove. I guess the items I cook are not very smelly and there is plenty of ventilation. I set out a bucket with a wire and empty roll of toilet paper covered in peanut butter and filled with a few inches of water. It cuts down the mouse problem. I put tarps on the roof with a cutout for the stove jack.
I have 5 foot high sidewalls so all of the space is utilized. Folding camp bed works great. My personal preference is a rope along the ridge tied to trees. The tent poles are at the entrance and back of the tent. The rope is used to hang clothes to dry and works great in high winds.
And I bring a garden rake along to rake the ground where the tent is to go. When I expect rain or snow, I bring a welcome mat at the entrance.
Kindling is stored behind the stove as is some larger stuff. I use a double bladed axe that is real sharp and I tape one blade. When the other blade dulls, I take off the tape and use that blade. The tent poles are long dowels found in lumber stores. The side poles are from the lumber yard and are cut to length. I put a nail at one end and put it in the grommets.
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I lay down a tarp over top of sod cloth. Than snap in floor. 2x4 floor mats up the center to catch any dirt. And those locking foam pads next to the cots for your feet.
Straw out side the door. For those bare foot calls at night.
I also have a motion sensing light near the door. If you get up at night it comes on and lights the door up.
One out side too.
Use solar lawn lights around camp to mark hazards and the path to the out house.
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I remember some hunters who thought straw was a great idea and put it on the floor. They put their sleeping bags on the straw and
thought it was great until the mice discovered the straw. There were dozens that ran over the straw, their sleeping bags and their faces.
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Most of my 25+ years in wall tents are late season, or high altitude where rodents are not normally an issue. Several things we do have already been mentioned.
1.) Straw, around the base of the outside of the tent, is a huge insulator. The colder it is the more it matters. About 1 1/2 bails for a 12x14' tent.
2.) Tarp over the tent. Cut a hole for the stove pipe. It really helps keep heat in the tent, and snow does not build up/slides off easily.
3.) We run a 5 gallon propane bottle outside the tent with hose up to the rafter to two lanterns inside. The fittings will start to freeze up in cold weather without a little assistance. A lighter to the outside of them for 30 seconds cures the problem.
4.) In tents with internal frames, parachute cord can be tied at multiple heights across the tent to hang things from.
5.) Astroturf is the best flooring I've found for a wall tent. It used to be completely waterproof, and we've set the tent up on 1'+ of compact snow before and had dry feet the whole week. On newer versions the coating on the bottom isn't as thick and often isn't sealed/waterproof. Nothing a can or two of FlexSeal can't cure! At the end of the season, hang it up, hose it off, let it dry. It also handily stores all of our tent poles, we roll them up like burritos.
6.) A $20 set of plastic shelves(4' tall, 3/4 shelves) gives you tons of storage space for all your kitchen stuff.
7.) Supplement your wood stove with charcoal when it gets really cold. It's cheap, and burns extremely well and warm through those long November nights.
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7.) Supplement your wood stove with charcoal when it gets really cold. It's cheap, and burns extremely well and warm through those long November nights.
I have never heard of this, I will have to give it a try and see how it works.
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This is the next idea I was toying around with doing. I found this on the good ol' google last night. The owner used a dimmer switch and a deep cycle battery.
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I also spray paint my fittings which makes it easier to set up especially if I have "help"
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I did much the same thing only I used different colored electrical tape.
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I've been using a inverter and a deep cycle battery for years. Just hit a switch and you have light. No noise and plenty of light. We use a 25w flouro bulb and get about a week before battery needs recharge.
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I use a 3' x 3' piece of 1/4" cement board(lite) to sit my stove on, takes up no space.
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I did much the same thing only I used different colored electrical tape.
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I've been using a inverter and a deep cycle battery for years. Just hit a switch and you have light. No noise and plenty of light. We use a 25w flouro bulb and get about a week before battery needs recharge.
Got a photo of each part?
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In our cook shack we took a truck cargo net with carabiners and streached it out along the inside ridge about 4 feet wide.
We throw bread,buns and paper up there to keep away from critters. You could do the same in your wall tent I think.
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Great info. Thanks
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So the question came up tonight from a friend who is getting ready to order a stove for his wall tent.
How important is it to have the stove pipe above the ridge of the tent?
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The most important thing is to get it high enough that you don't get ember burns on the tent when you really stoke it up or burn some lively wood. As long as it's over 2.5-3' above where it comes through the tent shouldn't have any issues.
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Has any one ever had the smoke stack come loose in the wind?
If so where did it disconnect? At the stove? One of the joints?
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Has any one ever had the smoke stack come loose in the wind?
If so where did it disconnect? At the stove? One of the joints?
Never have, but I use some small screws on each section. Better safe then sorry. Here's a picture of my set-up and I've never had hot embers burn holes in the tent.
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Mylar umm Good idea.
How many guys use something behind their stoves to protect the wall?
Most of you guys will hate this answer. I know of an elk camp that uses an old asbestos board. Don't hate on me. It really works. Just don't scratch & breath.
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I bought this BQ mat that is fire resistant for under my stove at Lowes.
Thinking about buying another to hang from the eve rail behind the stove.
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So the question came up tonight from a friend who is getting ready to order a stove for his wall tent.
How important is it to have the stove pipe above the ridge of the tent?
My friend posed the question to the owner of the wall tent shop.
He replied..........
THE WIND FLOW DOESN’T REALLY MATTER, IT IS THE PREVAILING WIND – IF THE WIND IS ALWAYS BLOWING AWAY FROM THE RIDGE LINE THEN NO PARTICULAR BIG DEAL – STOVE PIPE HEIGHT NEEDS TO BE ABOVE RIDGE IF THE WIND MAY BLOW THAT WAY, THUS HAVING THE RIDGE CATCHING THE SPARKS, ETC. HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THE COOLING
SCREWS NOT NECESSARY
Someone on another forum posted that having your pipe above the ridge caused cooling in the pipe.
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Has any one ever had the smoke stack come loose in the wind?
If so where did it disconnect? At the stove? One of the joints?
Mine did two seasons ago during west side rifle elk. Drove into camp and noticed the stove pipe was missing coming out the top of my tent, opened up the door, stepped back and took a couple deep breaths and ran inside and dragged the stove out. Windy as hell that day, It came apart at the joint going through the stove jack, the rest of the pipe stayed together inside and smoked out my tent and lucky enough it didn't do to much damage to the roof of my tent since the area around the stove jack is reinforced and I had the stove dampened way down, everything smelled like smoke real bad :'( in years past I would screw each section together but quit doing it a few years prior to this happening :bash: After that lesson it all gets a screw.
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So the question came up tonight from a friend who is getting ready to order a stove for his wall tent.
How important is it to have the stove pipe above the ridge of the tent?
My friend posed the question to the owner of the wall tent shop.
He replied..........
THE WIND FLOW DOESN’T REALLY MATTER, IT IS THE PREVAILING WIND – IF THE WIND IS ALWAYS BLOWING AWAY FROM THE RIDGE LINE THEN NO PARTICULAR BIG DEAL – STOVE PIPE HEIGHT NEEDS TO BE ABOVE RIDGE IF THE WIND MAY BLOW THAT WAY, THUS HAVING THE RIDGE CATCHING THE SPARKS, ETC. HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THE COOLING
SCREWS NOT NECESSARY
Someone on another forum posted that having your pipe above the ridge caused cooling in the pipe.
I don't think having the pipe above the ridge, a foot or two anyway, causing cooling is any concern. My recollection is that you want the stack about 2' above the peak of a structure for optimum pipe draw/stove performance.
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You can see how far mine sticks above the ridge, and I've never had any problems with the stove pipe cooling and/or not pulling very good. In fact sometimes it will sound like a damn torch when you open the vent/door cause it's pulling so hard.
Again, putting a few small screws in each section is cheap insurance. I use the same holes year after year, and just put the screws in a sealed container in the stove for storage when camp is packed up.
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Tagging. Great thread. :tup: I have a 12x12 with 4 ft walls. Just got the 4 dog stove with the water tank, table, and two elbows as my hole for the stove comes out one of my doors. should be here this week. Will put my tips in after I tinker w it. Do wood stoves apply to a burn ban? and does national forest in Idaho have a burn ban in sept?
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Has any one ever had the smoke stack come loose in the wind?
If so where did it disconnect? At the stove? One of the joints?
our stove pipe came loose one year over on Glass Ridge in the Nile unit usually lash it down at the stove but that year we set up at midnight and got lazy woke up a few hours later with a smoke filled tent came off right at the stove, wind was blowing pretty hard, now its always lashed down no matter what time it gets set up, I've added a 4' section of pipe for 8' total above the elbow where it goes out my side wall the thing burns great, I also lay a tarp down in the tent cut out for stove and use 3- 6'X8' indoor outdoor carpet sections for in front of the cots, I used to have a welding blanket under my stove but found it was just easier to cut out a section of the tarp, I also cover my tent with a tarp mainly so the snow slides off easy if we get dumped on, I use battery lanterns and I never cook in the sleep tent
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Question, If you wall tenters go out during the early season do you have a different tent? seems like a wall tent could get pretty hot in Sept. on the east side.
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Question, If you wall tenters go out during the early season do you have a different tent? seems like a wall tent could get pretty hot in Sept. on the east side.
I use the same tent, I have a screen door on the front and screened window in the back of the tent.
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Tagging. Great thread. :tup: I have a 12x12 with 4 ft walls. Just got the 4 dog stove with the water tank, table, and two elbows as my hole for the stove comes out one of my doors. should be here this week. Will put my tips in after I tinker w it. Do wood stoves apply to a burn ban? and does national forest in Idaho have a burn ban in sept?
In my area, Skagit County there is a total ban on anything that creates a ember or spark. Even in the NF.
Propane ok , wood or charcoal no way.
Unless your only source of heat at home.
My stove sitting waiting for the break in burns. Was 90 plus in Mount Vernon today.
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Question, If you wall tenters go out during the early season do you have a different tent? seems like a wall tent could get pretty hot in Sept. on the east side.
I use the same tent, I have a screen door on the front and screened window in the back of the tent.
Same here,but I always set up my tents in the shade just for that reason. A tarp stretched over your tent in the shade only touching the ridge and above the eves aids cooling by a lot. Still going to be sleeping on top of the sheets in this weather.
They do make tent fans. Anyone use one?
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When you consider the price of a wall tent these days and other gear.
This just might be worth it.
http://campingalarms.com/
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Question, If you wall tenters go out during the early season do you have a different tent? seems like a wall tent could get pretty hot in Sept. on the east side.
I use the same tent, I have a screen door on the front and screened window in the back of the tent.
Same here,but I always set up my tents in the shade just for that reason. A tarp stretched over your tent in the shade only touching the ridge and above the eves aids cooling by a lot. Still going to be sleeping on top of the sheets in this weather.
They do make tent fans. Anyone use one?
I picked a tent with doors on each end for this reason. It's easy to open each end up and get some air flow if needed. If the option is here to have a door on each end, I would take it. If one zipper fails during a hunt, you could always velcro/tie it up and use the door on the other end. It's also nice having the option of putting the stove in the "back" of the tent, or the "front".
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That's a good tip there. I might modify mine to have two doors. Would open it up a ton with two awnings set up on each end. I just got my four dog stove in the mail with water tank and table!!! Thing is slick! :IBCOOL: can't wait for elk camps this year. Three differnt elk camps planned. More than any year yet. Three planned means I'll hunt three to four multi day trips and a lot of weekends. Can't wait.
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Has any one ever had the smoke stack come loose in the wind?
If so where did it disconnect? At the stove? One of the joints?
Never have, but I use some small screws on each section. Better safe then sorry. Here's a picture of my set-up and I've never had hot embers burn holes in the tent.
So looking at your Ridge Tire down out the front. Is that line in a grommet?
And if so how are you attaching. Knot inside?
Mine has a grommet front and back but I have been coming out the ridge pole hole and tying .
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Picked up this light for in my tent at Lowes.
All the light you would need.
3 D Cells
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Wish i had the time to mess with my new to me wall tent...darn graveyard this summer and kids sports is gonna have me scrambling...don't like that feeling all ready!!..😡
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Has any one ever had the smoke stack come loose in the wind?
If so where did it disconnect? At the stove? One of the joints?
Never have, but I use some small screws on each section. Better safe then sorry. Here's a picture of my set-up and I've never had hot embers burn holes in the tent.
So looking at your Ridge Tire down out the front. Is that line in a grommet?
And if so how are you attaching. Knot inside?
Mine has a grommet front and back but I have been coming out the ridge pole hole and tying .
Not sure on his but mine has a grommet and that is what I use. I have the high wind package on my Bravo so I am not worried about tearing the grommet out. Tying to the inside frame would work also I guess, never thought of that.
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Well in Miles photo it looks like his ridge rope is coming straight out the top. If he has a grommet he must be trying a knot on inside or using something to anchor it.
On mine I have a grommet and I put the rope though tha out the ridge pole hooded opening and tie a knot.
Been playing with other options in my head.
I wouldn't tie to the frame because in heavy wind I think it's better to have the tent free floating over the frame.
With the tent well staked and all guy lines tight the frame is Locke in place.
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Here a couple pics of my current rigging.
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BQ Matt from Lowes under stove.
Used marker to mark for for faster set up.
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You can have some fun.
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As noted on stove thread . Going to need more protection under stove to feel safe.
BQ Matt is conducting heat. And is too hot to touch.
Going to have to have something else under it.
Ummmm need another Diet Pepsi.
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Have you tried putting an emergency foily blanket down over the matt to reflect the heat away?
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Have you tried putting an emergency foily blanket down over the matt to reflect the heat away?
No
But that's not a bad idea.
I think it would be ok if raised it one or two inches to create a air pocket.
Ummmm thinking.
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I use a welding blanket, as others have said on here. They are cheap and compact. I double it up and leave a generous amount out front to catch any sparks or embers that my escape when the door is open.
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Have you tried putting an emergency foily blanket down over the matt to reflect the heat away?
No
But that's not a bad idea.
I think it would be ok if raised it one or two inches to create a air pocket.
Ummmm thinking.
My floor is cut 4' from the corner. I fold this back. I use a shovel under the stove legs to level after setup. Mylar under the stove..... haven't tried that. I normally rake to clean ground and shovel some in if hole is too deep after raking.
This emergency blanket trick is something I've been using for over 20 years. It's amazing how something so thin completely insulates the tent wall.
When not using, it gets rolled up and stashed in the Chuck box. They're small and light.
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When setting up, we chainsaw disc (1/2"thick) for leveling cots and tables. The bigger the disc... the less likely to slip off.
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When setting up, we chainsaw disc (1/2"thick) for leveling cots and tables. The bigger the disc... the less likely to slip off.
We usually have 3 inch squares with us branded with the camp logo. To level tables and cots.
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Looks good.
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Ghost,
I have to ask. How did your camp get its name?
T
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Ghost,
I have to ask. How did your camp get its name?
T
Well back In the start late 80s. We didn't have a name . We would put out a bunch of Jack O Lanterns so people got calling us Punkin Camp. That didn't really stick.
Some other camps back than around our hunting area had names couple even had signs.
There was John Deere Camp up Poorman Crk, Sheep Creek Camp and Owl Camp up Little Bridge Creek.
We decided we needed a name. Ummmmm
I use to bring hunting magazines to read to camp. One day I am reading this article about bears titled something like " Black Ghost of the Forests"
Than I saw another one about elk that was Ghosts of the Timber.
Well it struck me that all the animals we hunted were at times like ghosts.
So I said instead of deer or elk camp , grouse or bear, let's call it Ghost Camp.
Than we stared looking for a crest,or logo, or avatar. I asked my wife to draw us a ghost some were kind of scary looking. But in the end the ghost you see today drawn by my wife became our sign.
Than came,shirts,hats,chits,flags and business size cards. Every were we travel to hunt we leave chits or cards In Restaurants with our generous tips. Letting restaurants know that hunters are part of their customer base.
At the Wood Shed in Eagle Rock and in Twisp there are waitresses that collect the chits or cards we leave. With the names of the guys who were there,the year and animal hunted.
We have been told that waitresses have even argued over us when we come in because they wanted us seated in their section.
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:jacked: :jacked:
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Ghost,
I have to ask. How did your camp get its name?
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Well back In the start late 80s. We didn't have a name . We would put out a bunch of Jack O Lanterns so people got calling us Punkin Camp. That didn't really stick.
Some other camps back than around our hunting area had names couple even had signs.
There was John Deere Camp up Poorman Crk, Sheep Creek Camp and Owl Camp up Little Bridge Creek.
We decided we needed a name. Ummmmm
I use to bring hunting magazines to read to camp. One day I am reading this article about bears titled something like " Black Ghost of the Forests"
Than I saw another one about elk that was Ghosts of the Timber.
Well it struck me that all the animals we hunted were at times like ghosts.
So I said instead of deer or elk camp , grouse or bear, let's call it Ghost Camp.
Than we stared looking for a crest,or logo, or avatar. I asked my wife to draw us a ghost some were kind of scary looking. But in the end the ghost you see today drawn by my wife became our sign.
Than came,shirts,hats,chits,flags and business size cards. Every were we travel to hunt we leave chits or cards In Restaurants with our generous tips. Letting restaurants know that hunters are part of their customer base.
At the Wood Shed in Eagle Rock and in Twisp there are waitresses that collect the chits or cards we leave. With the names of the guys who were there,the year and animal hunted.
We have been told that waitresses have even argued over us when we come in because they wanted us seated in their section.
Thanks for sharing.
Good story..... we might consider a thread for this topic, I see alot of signs out there.
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Think I started one awhile back??
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Anyone use a fan in their tent to keep cool or move heat?
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Anyone use a fan in their tent to keep cool or move heat?
Where'd ya pick that one up at? I've been looking for a decent battery powered fan.
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K mart Burlington
In Sporting goods.
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K mart Burlington
In Sporting goods.
Thanks, I haven't looked around much. The sound of a fan going at night helps me sleep. Dang tinnitus. Helps to drown out some of the snoring in camp too.
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K mart Burlington
In Sporting goods.
Thanks, I haven't looked around much. The sound of a fan going at night helps me sleep. Dang tinnitus. Helps to drown out some of the snoring in camp too.
It has two speeds , blows real good. Folds flat to go back in box.
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Anyone use a fan in their tent to keep cool or move heat?
I use and Ecofan in my tent. It sits on top of the stove in the back corner and works off of the heat of the stove. As the stove heats up the blades start turning, no power or batteries, as the stove cools down the fan spins slower. Doesn't make any noise and needs no power to operate. They have a bunch of different versions, gas, wood or pellet stove in different blades configurations for different volumes of air movement.
I love mine and would highly recommend one to anyone with a wall tent.
http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-95622685483394/caframo-ecofan-for-wood-stoves-black-and-nickel-57.gif
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Anyone use a fan in their tent to keep cool or move heat?
I use and Ecofan in my tent. It sits on top of the stove in the back corner and works off of the heat of the stove. As the stove heats up the blades start turning, no power or batteries, as the stove cools down the fan spins slower. Doesn't make any noise and needs no power to operate. They have a bunch of different versions, gas, wood or pellet stove in different blades configurations for different volumes of air movement.
I love mine and would highly recommend one to anyone with a wall tent.
http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-95622685483394/caframo-ecofan-for-wood-stoves-black-and-nickel-57.gif
Yes I considered one of those. But decide to try to kill two birds. Cooling fan for hot summer nights and move heat around fan on those cold winter trips.
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Internal frames are so easy to set up and take the work out of set up in my opinion. You can also as previously mentioned dry clothes easier. I purchased one of those little fans to set on the stove to circulate the heat better. Always dug a trench on the uphill side of the tent just incase, yes I learned the hard way. We also always tapped the tent keeps it cleaner and helps keep more heat in. Always go bigger in wall tents and stoves in my opinion if you can. We got a larger stove just so we didn't have to get up in the night to stoke the fire.
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Don't do this burn holes in your roof first time out lol but if you do roll a sock up and stick in hole it will keep rain out
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How did that happen?
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Damn ...you are getting serious about this tent stuff ....Lmao ... I may need to buy a bigger tent next year ...I like the idea of the stove ...haha I did set mine up for a week at Roosevelt ...Worked great so far !
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Ya that is a good tent. I loved it. But I wanted something with a stove I could set up by myself.
A little a Buddy will heat your tent well.
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How did that happen?
1 am stoking the stove looked up and there it was 2 big holes still burning had to throw water on them.i guess the spark arrestor missed 2 lol
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We run ice fishing shack LED rope lights . Hooked up to 2 6 volt Trojan deep cycles. Then a 1,000watt inverter to run TV ,sony play station for movies and a ipod speaker for sound. Run all that for nearly week before i need to charge. I want to add a small solar cell trickle charger thou. We run a tarp down first same size as tent. Then indoor /outdoor carpet thru the whole thing except 4ft by the door. We run one og those cheap transmission drip pans from wally world under the stove to catch any embors out of the door. Built some cloths drying racks this year will see how they work come november. Never had to trench around tent yet. Also read somewere about putting one screw in chimmney at top and one at bottom. Then spiral wire around it between them to hold the chimmney together in the wind.
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Nice
First official hunt in my tent now over. Muzzy elk. Two of us just right. Added my grandson on another cot little crowded. No stove due to fire restrictions in the Naches.
Picked up one of those closet organizers that hang on rod at G sale. Worked great hanging from the side rail holding all the keys and stuff.
Off in three days for modern deer. Just me , So will be taking the new Three Dog and trying it out. I bought my tent for these kind of of solo or one buddy min. hunts.
Got the big camp on the trailer in the drive way ,going to empty out and take a small camp. Might even take my new hunting ride. :chuckle: ( Another Thread)
Good Wall tenting all.
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Archery elk the four dog got me thirteen nights between two camps. No elk but great times! Good warm sleep too. I need a bigger tent. Has anyone ever just set two up length wise together? Another 12x12 and that stove would heat both.
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Yes many times it works great ! We set them 10 feet apart and tarp between makes a good cook/storage spot 😀 I now have frame pipes that go from one tent to the other but use to just rope one to the other to support tarp
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Good thread.
Two words. Propane oven.
We freeze precooked casseroles ahead of time in meatloaf containers in individual servings. Come in from the hunt, turn on the propane oven and pop in the meals. Do a few chores, hang up wet clothes, and are eating in 30 minutes. Fold up container and throw away. No dishes.
It has two burners on top if we need to boil some water.
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I picked up a hanging organizer at VV a few years ago for a couple bucks. It wraps around my frame pole with velcro and provides great storage. Most are canvas material and collapse for easy storage/packing.
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Good thread.
Two words. Propane oven.
We freeze precooked casseroles ahead of time in meatloaf containers in individual servings. Come in from the hunt, turn on the propane oven and pop in the meals. Do a few chores, hang up wet clothes, and are eating in 30 minutes. Fold up container and throw away. No dishes.
It has two burners on top if we need to boil some water.
Yeah a oven is nice ,we packed one for many years . Our old guy would come in half day when he got cold and make pies for us. Havent taken it in the past few years too much stuff.
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Archery elk the four dog got me thirteen nights between two camps. No elk but great times! Good warm sleep too. I need a bigger tent. Has anyone ever just set two up length wise together? Another 12x12 and that stove would heat both.
I have two 12x16's that I put together some years for archery elk. I picked up the second one from a member here a few years ago, zippered doors on both ends of it so it butts up against my first one. I'll see if I can find some pictures, makes it pretty nice having a kitchen/gathering area and a sleeping quarters.
I also made wooden boxes for the tents and the frames for storage/transportation, they double as tables in the tent after we set them up.
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Genius. :yeah: I hate being hunched over a tote to eat.
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Archery elk the four dog got me thirteen nights between two camps. No elk but great times! Good warm sleep too. I need a bigger tent. Has anyone ever just set two up length wise together? Another 12x12 and that stove would heat both.
I have two 12x16's that I put together some years for archery elk. I picked up the second one from a member here a few years ago, zippered doors on both ends of it so it butts up against my first one. I'll see if I can find some pictures, makes it pretty nice having a kitchen/gathering area and a sleeping quarters.
I also made wooden boxes for the tents and the frames for storage/transportation, they double as tables in the tent after we set them up.
love this wood box idea , should help with rodent issues in storage too.. would add mothballs in when stored. mice and rats hate mothballs...
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Anyone use a fan in their tent to keep cool or move heat?
find that all my wet stuff dries much faster with a fan to circ the air...
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Here's a pic of the two tents together.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG_10678.JPG)
Here is a pic of how we use the storage boxes. This was the year before I bought the second wall tent but the boxes for both are the same. The long one against the back of the tent is the box for the frame, no fires during archery season so the tent heater sits on the box along with the propane boot dryer.
The square box on the right side is for the tent, flooring and the tarp that goes down under the flooring. The propane stove/oven on the left is sitting on top of the box I built for it also. Everything stacks nicely in the garage for storage, no mice, no moths etc. I always make sure the tents are dry before they get packed up.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG_05254.jpg)
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WOW, that is a nice camp.
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Yeah nice work. I need Windows. Too dark in my tent .
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I added a 6ft porch frame that can be used on both tents and then bought a clear 20x24 tarp that covers the tent and acts as the porch.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG_29783.JPG)
I still need to add a second tarp that will cover both tents when I have them set up together, these guys have good prices on the clear tarps.
http://www.a1tarps.com/clear-tarps.html
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A question for everyone about drying your canvas tent before storing it. I bought a Kodiak Canvas tent last year. After using it for late archery elk in the rain I set it up in my garage and ran a heater and fan in it for several days. It seemed pretty dry when I put it way, but when I used it this spring I found some small spots that must be mold. Am I overreacting? It doesn't seem like widespread mold. Seems like it would be nearly impossible to completely dry a canvas tent used during the rainy cold season.
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I hang mine from ropes I stretch across the shop and let it hang for 2 to 3 weeks.
I try to open the doors from time to time to let the moisture out
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I bring mine into the house and use the living room and drape it all over the furniture for sometimes weeks if I don't get back to putting it away. The wife absolutely loves it when I leave the wall tent in the living room. It really works out well, try it once or twice and see. :chuckle:
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Thanks for the replies. Sounds like I need to be more patient and let it hang longer.
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Does anyone have a good idea for a solid floor material. I've thought about heavy rubber stall mats but that's a lot of weight. I considered sheet covering pallets with 1/4 inch plywood but once again its not a easy haul. I would like to come up with something to give me a couple of inches off the ground that I can cover with a outdoor rug. Maybe solid insulation panels with some kind of a backing that makes them less prone to poking and holes. Any ideas?
I have a Bravo tent and ordered a heavy tarp floor for mine. It is really durable and I put carpet over that and it works great.
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I bought a tarp floor from Davis tents when I bought my tent works great
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Don't be in any hurry letting your tent dry.
if it was a bad year, I set up my tent in the yard and hose as much of the dirt off as I can.
After a day or 3, I will take it down and hang it in the shop for a few weeks, if it is real bad I will run a fan to move air around.
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Well I did the same thing tonight. I set mine up in the drive way. Hosed all the loose dirt off it and put the three dog in it to help it dry. Than i take it to my walk in actic in the G and lay it out . About 60 up there all the time. twice a week I go up and flip it.
This was the first year using it and I made a error. I put a spark ares-tor on the pipe and soot built up on it. That is OK except it rained and the soot dripped on the tent. Think I have a stain for good. Will use a elbow next time.
Couple of clips like close pins works well to keep the store port flap up out of the way.
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Picked up this light for in my tent at Lowes.
All the light you would need.
3 D Cells
Tell you what I was out hunting 24 days and ran three of those lights, one in tent one outside tent ,one in kitchen and never changed the batteries.
Much easier than propane lights and three times brighter.
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This was the first year using it and I made a error. I put a spark ares-tor on the pipe and soot built up on it. That is OK except it rained and the soot dripped on the tent. Think I have a stain for good. Will use a elbow next time.
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Speaking of spark arresters. I had the same problem i took my off and threw it away first time it got plugged. I hear just run it strait and drill holes in the top 12-20in for burning and cooling the embers. But some states require a actual forest approved spark arrester.
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This was the first year using it and I made a error. I put a spark ares-tor on the pipe and soot built up on it. That is OK except it rained and the soot dripped on the tent. Think I have a stain for good. Will use a elbow next time.
Speaking of spark arresters. I had the same problem i took my off and threw it away first time it got plugged. I hear just run it strait and drill holes in the top 12-20in for burning and cooling the embers. But some states require a actual forest approved spark arrest-er.
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Yeah heard that myself. I think I am just going to add a elbow to the top. I really don't worry to much about sparks, because I don't use paper or cedar which cuts down on the sparks.
Plus I camp where I can drive so usually a beat down camp spot.
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The spark arrestor is a novel idea, but they plug up to fast and in my opinion is a danger.
I only set up my tent for elk season, I don't even waist my time on a spark arrestor.
You shouldn't have to flip your tent, if it is hanging and can get air all around it just leave it.
Stains are part of the tent, there will be more to come.
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I would pack an extra section of pipe before I packed a spark arrestor. They suck.
Also refrain from burning small branches as that is a huge factor in ember output.
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Anybody ever use any kind of cleaner on their tent?
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I have used oxyclean on stains. I usually set it up in the yard in July/August when we are getting a few good warm days and hit mine with the pressure washer but I don't use any cleaner on the entire tent, just on the occasional stain.
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Any effect on water repelent ?
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Not that I have noticed. My tents were factory treated and I have never treated them with anything else.
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Since I could never fold my tent small enough to get it into the canvas bag it came in . I switched over to using a high quality decoy bag with carry straps and waist band for transporting the tent. At home I un pack it and lay it over a rack in my upstairs storage room after it has been dried.
Makes it easy to transport to and from camp.
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I put 400.00 down on a Bravo Wall tent and will soon have to decide on a size. 12x15 or 15x18? I know bigger is usually better but was wondering about weight and difficultly on solo hunts. (Plus cost) Any thoughts? Late hunts with 2-4 people.
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I put 400.00 down on a Bravo Wall tent and will soon have to decide on a size. 12x15 or 15x18? I know bigger is usually better but was wondering about weight and difficultly on solo hunts. (Plus cost) Any thoughts? Late hunts with 2-4 people.
A 12x15 for one guy is a castle.
I would say look at what the realistic use is going to be. If you and maybe one other, A 12 X15 is plenty. Also are you going to cook in it? If so the tables and cook ware eat up some space.
Take your basic gear and set it up in your garage or drive way. cots, stove ect. Than measure it. Chalk out the 12 X15 .
If your plan is to be putting it up and down by yourself , 12X15 would be my limit. I went with a 10x12 just for that reason. Like being independent.
A lot depends on your age and patience level too. I am 64.
I know guys who put up bigger tents on their own.
But I wanted a set up I could run by myself for the rest of my hunting life.
Remember the wood stove needs some dead space around it. Maybe three feet between cot and stove.
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I ran this set up during deer. Mild temps.
10x12 two guys and gear ,three dog stove.
Cooked under tarp on left.
Very comfortable for ten days.
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Thanks so much. Yes long term will mean me setting it up alone. I am 47 but want to use this for many years. I just got a 4 dog stove in good shape on Craigslist for 100.00 :tup: most times will be 2-3 guys the smaller tent would allow for a nice floor tarp or snow slide.
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Here's the setup for my boys and I when all three of us go replace one of the cots with a bunkbed cot setup. To give u an idea of room vs. stuff hope it helps its a 12x14 davis.
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Yeah that helps... Looks like it is perfect for 2, or 3 with bunk beds. Looks like getting 4 would be tight if you needed a stove.
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Yeah 4 would be tight. We're actually going to add a cook shack off the front , I thought about adding a second smaller cook tent but I don't want to have to mess with a second source of heat to keep things from freezing. I actually over sized my stove it's a four dog model which will be just right for the added cook shack. With the tent being a 12x14 the four dog was too warm even dampered & using a pipe damper. The trick for us was keeping the teenage hunters to keep cleaning up after themselves. :bash:
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Here's the other end without the woods stove. I use a big buddy heater, fully expand the cook station and upgrade the table to a 6'.
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Does your big buddy heater keep it warm? I was thinking about going this route next year
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We have two big buddy heaters for a 12x14 wall tent. One is for a drying corner and one for heat. We shut them down to low for night time and stay very warm.
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They work great. We've always just run one and it's been plenty.
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That's what I was hoping to hear....its nice to have a wood stove but getting up 2-3 times a night isn't much fun
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I put 400.00 down on a Bravo Wall tent and will soon have to decide on a size. 12x15 or 15x18? I know bigger is usually better but was wondering about weight and difficultly on solo hunts. (Plus cost) Any thoughts? Late hunts with 2-4 people.
Go 15x18. That's the only way you'll be good with 4 guys.
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Sleep all night long with this set up..
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That's two different stoves? :dunno:
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Same.. I have a write up about it in another thread
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Same.. I have a write up about it in another thread
Link?
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http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,170072.msg2449282.html#msg2449282
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I put 400.00 down on a Bravo Wall tent and will soon have to decide on a size. 12x15 or 15x18? I know bigger is usually better but was wondering about weight and difficultly on solo hunts. (Plus cost) Any thoughts? Late hunts with 2-4 people.
Go 15x18. That's the only way you'll be good with 4 guys.
Thanks. I think after seeing the pics of 12x14 I will go bigger. I really appreciate all the input from the guys on the site, especially the photos .
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I've got a 14x16 and we can fit 4 in comfortably. Sometimes I wish I had a little smaller for when it's just myself and one other. It's also easier to find spots to set up in treed locations with something a little smaller.
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Thats why i went 12x14 for 2 its easy to use and set up with 3 or 4 ill put up the cook shack which will free up the main tent to sleep up to 4 if needed. From the time i shut the truck off i can have the 12x14 set up in 20 to 30 minutes. Its a fine line between "comfortable" and too much stuff.
Hope the pics helped visualize what will work best for you. :tup:
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Itching to get out in my wall tent again. So thought I would get this thread fired up again.
Bought one of these to light my wood stove with. No more matches.
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Does anyone have a good idea for a solid floor material. I've thought about heavy rubber stall mats but that's a lot of weight. I considered sheet covering pallets with 1/4 inch plywood but once again its not a easy haul. I would like to come up with something to give me a couple of inches off the ground that I can cover with a outdoor rug. Maybe solid insulation panels with some kind of a backing that makes them less prone to poking and holes. Any ideas?
Mine came with a poly snap in floor.i bought a brown 12x10 tarp which I lay on ground. Than snap in floor over that. Keeps the poly floor cleaner when we break camp.
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I always have some little coaster size squares in my tent gear. Made of wood or cardboard to put under cot feet. In case I am over some soft ground saves from punching a hole in the floor.
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A little straw out side the entrance keeps the mud and dirt down. And provides a clean place to stand when taking that 2 am leak. :chuckle:
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A little straw out side the entrance keeps the mud and dirt down. And provides a clean place to stand when taking that 2 am leak. :chuckle:
That's what a wiiiiiiiiiiiiddddeeeee mouth Gatorade bottle is for
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Itching to get out in my wall tent again. So thought I would get this thread fired up again.
Bought one of these to light my wood stove with. No more matches.
thats what we used last year and it works great :tup:
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Itching to get out in my wall tent again. So thought I would get this thread fired up again.
Bought one of these to light my wood stove with. No more matches.
thats what we used last year and it works great :tup:
:yeah: Been using one for a few years now, definitely the way to go.
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Where looking to buy a tent here soon and seen the frame kits are priced pretty high but also seen you can use 1 inch emt conduit for frame, just wondering if 1 inch would be big enough because it looked like in some of the pictures here the frame poles where bigger then that .
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16' x 20' Davis Tent with a Peak Stove on order should be here around end of the month.
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That's a great deal they are having right now! I got the same set up on the way! Cant wait to test it out this spring!
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Where looking to buy a tent here soon and seen the frame kits are priced pretty high but also seen you can use 1 inch emt conduit for frame, just wondering if 1 inch would be big enough because it looked like in some of the pictures here the frame poles where bigger then that .
Pretty sure my frame is made from at least 1 1/4" and I think it is 1 1/2". I don't think I would go with 1", that seems awfully small.
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Where looking to buy a tent here soon and seen the frame kits are priced pretty high but also seen you can use 1 inch emt conduit for frame, just wondering if 1 inch would be big enough because it looked like in some of the pictures here the frame poles where bigger then that .
Pretty sure my frame is made from at least 1 1/4" and I think it is 1 1/2". I don't think I would go with 1", that seems awfully small.
1" EMT is plenty strong enough. I have a davis 16x20 and I run the 1" EMT, I thought the same thing when I bought it that theres no way that 1" emt pipe would be strong enough, but its plenty strong.
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Where looking to buy a tent here soon and seen the frame kits are priced pretty high but also seen you can use 1 inch emt conduit for frame, just wondering if 1 inch would be big enough because it looked like in some of the pictures here the frame poles where bigger then that .
Pretty sure my frame is made from at least 1 1/4" and I think it is 1 1/2". I don't think I would go with 1", that seems awfully small.
1" EMT is plenty strong enough. I have a davis 16x20 and I run the 1" EMT, I thought the same thing when I bought it that theres no way that 1" emt pipe would be strong enough, but its plenty strong.
Good to know, thanks, :tup:
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Perfect thanks for the info, I'll go with 1" . I think where going with a 16x14 tent from wall tent shop.com and they said they would send a cut sheet too make our own frame, so I thought that was nice on there part to at least give me the option. Can't wait to get it and try it out this year.
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Didn't read all the posts so if you add length to the ridge pole at the entrance cover it with a tarp you will have added covered space. A cooking area / storage
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Perfect thanks for the info, I'll go with 1" . I think where going with a 16x14 tent from wall tent shop.com and they said they would send a cut sheet too make our own frame, so I thought that was nice on there part to at least give me the option. Can't wait to get it and try it out this year.
With the dollar the way it is, I would be looking at Canadian manufacturers. Save 25-30% right out of the gate.
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Perfect thanks for the info, I'll go with 1" . I think where going with a 16x14 tent from wall tent shop.com and they said they would send a cut sheet too make our own frame, so I thought that was nice on there part to at least give me the option. Can't wait to get it and try it out this year.
With the dollar the way it is, I would be looking at Canadian manufacturers. Save 25-30% right out of the gate.
Any suggestions on manufacturers? That's not a bad idea!
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http://capitalcanvas.ca/
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Lots of good suggestions here, but for any one who has not purchased a tent....contact Bravo Tents. There are no better constructed at any cost. Head and shoulders above all others. Don't take my post...look at them. Last bit of advice...buy 3 ft larger than you thought you needed and you, your kids, and your grand kids wont regret it. John at Bravo has the worst business model around. Build a product that lasts well beyond others, no built in failure area's, and something that will outlast all others if you take the most basic of care of it....
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We have a 20x14 and a 12 x 14 and one has a wall exit stove pipe and one has a top stove pipe hole. The side wall exit is harder to set up but it really limits the black particles and burns on the tent. Also doesn't alow any water to drop down onto stove at night.
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Back to cleaning.
I see one vote for oxy clean on spots.
Anyone use anything else over the counter?
Got mine in the driveway right now and got a couple spots I would like to work on.
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Well with the good weather decided to get the tent up in the yard and work on those stains I got when it blew over in the drive way after a hunting trip.
I got some oxy clean spray and wet the spots down , soft brush, let sit for a hour. than rinsed off.
Did not remove completely but for sure lightened them up a lot.
The stain were over a year old. At first I could still see the spots like they were discolored. But after two days in the sun. That went away. I think the solution may be to have a bottle in my kit and hit the bad stains as they happen. :tup:
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Ahh, the Wall Tent Thread, I miss mine, but it went to a young fella who will get much more use of it than myself, shifted over to Kodiak Canvas and smaller groups. Lots of great ideas across this thread so I thought I'd share a couple of ours from years gone by. Some are still applicable as we have a 10' X 20' Costco type portable garage for our kitchen tent that we run the wood stove in.
Think our best modification was using some steel conduit and built a hanging "horseshoe from the ridge pole and secured to the eaves around the wood stove. Man can that set-up dry clothes FAST. Clothes, hats, gloves, packs, boots, you name it, we have hung it.
Like the Cabelas Cot Trees for the cots, but they need modification also. Product called "Gear Pockets" are perfect companion with the cot trees. Vertical storage at the head or foot of the bed. Holds all the undergarments, socks, gloves, T-shirts, etc. etc you have. I like the nine pocket version, beats digging through your tote for these things.
Starting the wood stove.... always a chore after the third day in the rainforest. But fear no more, one day while burning weeds around the homestead with the flamethrower torch, it hit me.....why in the heck wouldn't I take this to camp to start the wood stove or campfire in a November downpour.....??? I wouldn't, not anymore. That "tool" has become one of the most useful in camp, so much so that we have named him TANK (I guess because he is attached to the propane tank). Old faithful hasn't missed a camp in a number of years.
There are many other little things we do, but those three are pretty useful that I don't know that we would do without anymore. I'll see if I can dig up any pics of any of it and throw them out here.
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Found a couple. Gear pockets, Conduit Clothes Dryer, Kitchen Tent with wood stove, and the Kitchen tent converted into sleeping quarters when someone blew a transmission in the RV going over the pass one year.... unloaded into a Uhaul trailer and headed for the mountains...
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Interested to know what everyone is using for lighting? We have used generator and electric lights before but am real interested in a 12v bat/led setup to eliminate the generator and the noise.
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Interested to know what everyone is using for lighting? We have used generator and electric lights before but am real interested in a 12v bat/led setup to eliminate the generator and the noise.
Earlier in this thread a couple posts about 12V deep cycle set-ups, getting about a week of lighting before charge required. I may look into that as well.
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I picked up a 400 watt inverter at a garage sale a few weeks back and I just got some led rope lights I'll be trying out with one of those big jump starter packs...I'm going to test it out and see how long it will run the lights before I need them
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So funny this thread came back to life today. Just setup my bravo 12x18 for the first time today. 👍 My understanding is you are supposed to soak them when they are new to shrink them down. What a well built tent. 1st time up 1 hour 2 guys... 2nd time up 20 minutes one guy. (Painting the joints rocks).
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I picked up the Makita battery operated fan and lantern. They even have a battery operated coffee maker.
The light throws out some good light.
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If your tent shrinks, it's because you didn't take care of it. Anchor the bottom & eave to the ground tight, don't put it away wet, and it should never shrink. Assuming it's pre-shrunk canvas, of course, which I think all of them are, now.
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So funny this thread came back to life today. Just setup my bravo 12x18 for the first time today. 👍 My understanding is you are supposed to soak them when they are new to shrink them down. What a well built tent. 1st time up 1 hour 2 guys... 2nd time up 20 minutes one guy. (Painting the joints rocks).
Make sure you stake it down well and allow it to completely dry. When you wet it down.
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So funny this thread came back to life today. Just setup my bravo 12x18 for the first time today. 👍 My understanding is you are supposed to soak them when they are new to shrink them down. What a well built tent. 1st time up 1 hour 2 guys... 2nd time up 20 minutes one guy. (Painting the joints rocks).
At your peak, I don't see a rain cover where the ridge pole goes through or is it folded inside.
I would make sure a ridge line is attached front and back in those grommets, and the grommet pulled a little out past the walls before wetting and su regular use to keep rain from leaking in or I guess a rain fly?
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So funny this thread came back to life today. Just setup my bravo 12x18 for the first time today. 👍 My understanding is you are supposed to soak them when they are new to shrink them down. What a well built tent. 1st time up 1 hour 2 guys... 2nd time up 20 minutes one guy. (Painting the joints rocks).
At your peak, I don't see a rain cover where the ridge pole goes through or is it folded inside.
I would make sure a ridge line is attached front and back in those grommets, and the grommet pulled a little out past the walls before wetting and su regular use to keep rain from leaking in or I guess a rain fly?
Here is mine.
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Does anybody have any idea a couple led shop lights used with a deep cycle battery/inverter would last as far as battery life goes?
Also Ray Davis at Davis tents told me there was no need to wet the tent down and shrink it. We should have our new 14x16 Davis in a couple weeks and can't wait to spend 10 days in it chasing deer & elk in Montana.
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I know when I got my Bravo tent 10 or 15 years ago I was told to set it up loose on the frame, wet the inside and outside down and let it dry.
On my frame after I set it up I put colored electric tape on the joints and pipes to color code everything. I was concerned about the paint rubbing off on the tent.
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Year I did the same with the electric tape.
Never heard of putting tent loose on frame. Everyone I know stakes them down so they don't shrink too small.
That's what I did and mine fits frame perfect.
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Ok ya made me go look. There are flaps that I did not have placed correctly. I am lucky no paint bleeding into the canvas from the poles. Tent did not shrink at all after 3 soakings inside and out. So exited to use it.
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I never get tired of reading through this thread. I'm hoping to contribute something after this season..... Thanks for the great ideas. :tup:
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:yeah: I've read through it 4-5 times :chuckle:
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I bring my four dog everywhere. But my 12x12 doesn't need it during early sept and it can heat the tent plus the two 10x10 kitchen/porch setup as well makes it nice in Washington even next week w the high temps everything is damp after a few days in the jungle. Dry out, warm up and sleep good is critical to staying after it.
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Well 6 days from leaving for Muzzy elk and I have been in my pre hunt sleep cycle for over a week.
What this means is I wake up in the middle of the night with solutions to camp problems.
Setting up my wall tent ,I set it up ,pull down the sides go inside and snap in the floor. This involves lifting the tent legs and putting the floor under them.
Woke up last night thinking, Leave the walls up, lay out the floor and work from the out side, pulling the floor towards me. UMMMM I am going to give that a try next Wednesday when I set it up at camp. :chuckle: :tup:
Any other ideas?
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Hopefully someone can help, I got a used tent and I have a frame kit I am cutting for it. How tight do you want the tent and the frame to fit? Do I want it to feel right when I slip the frame in, or is a little loose OK? I don't wanna cut to the wrong length. Thanks
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Do you have a cut list or did you measure the tent? I got a used tent with frame and the previous owner had my rafters 3" too long and I have to cut them off...I wasn't able to get it setup before I used it for elk camp this year and it made zipping up the door a little difficult so having the right lengths will help. You can see in this pic my rafter is a little long but I made it work...you want it to be snug...you don't want a loose tent flapping around
(http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/deerhunter_98520/IMG_20160909_175742740_zpskvig7tgb.jpg) (http://s799.photobucket.com/user/deerhunter_98520/media/IMG_20160909_175742740_zpskvig7tgb.jpg.html)
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No cut list, just the parts and the tent. I figured measure the inseams and cut for that.
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Does anybody have any idea a couple led shop lights used with a deep cycle battery/inverter would last as far as battery life goes?
Also Ray Davis at Davis tents told me there was no need to wet the tent down and shrink it. We should have our new 14x16 Davis in a couple weeks and can't wait to spend 10 days in it chasing deer & elk in Montana.
We just got back from 2 weeks in Idaho. My deep cell inverter setup made it close to a week running led Christmas lights, and charging cell phones nightly. I am going to pick up a solar charger for next year that should give us enough juice for the second week. This time we just used jumper cables, and charged the battery off of the truck which worked fine as well.
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No cut list, just the parts and the tent. I figured measure the inseams and cut for that.
http://www.walltentshop.com/pages/how-to-measure-a-wall-tent
There's videos also :tup:
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Does anybody have any idea a couple led shop lights used with a deep cycle battery/inverter would last as far as battery life goes?
Also Ray Davis at Davis tents told me there was no need to wet the tent down and shrink it. We should have our new 14x16 Davis in a couple weeks and can't wait to spend 10 days in it chasing deer & elk in Montana.
We just got back from 2 weeks in Idaho. My deep cell inverter setup made it close to a week running led Christmas lights, and charging cell phones nightly. I am going to pick up a solar charger for next year that should give us enough juice for the second week. This time we just used jumper cables, and charged the battery off of the truck which worked fine as well.
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Sweet we are gonna try batt/inverter with a LED shoplight on our MT hunt.
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The spark arrestor is a novel idea, but they plug up to fast and in my opinion is a danger.
I only set up my tent for elk season, I don't even waist my time on a spark arrestor.
You shouldn't have to flip your tent, if it is hanging and can get air all around it just leave it.
Stains are part of the tent, there will be more to come.
I make an arrestor each year. I use hardware cloth. I cut a circle to the pipe diameter with two wings about an inch wide and 4 long. You put the damper spindle through the wings and the screen hangs in the pipe beneath the damper
Never plugs, doesnt burn out in a week or more. Not as effective as the cap style but a great improvement over none.
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Lots of good stuff in here. One thing that I really like to have is fire starter logs and compressed logs. I like compressed logs that burn 8hrs or more to put in at night.
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Well just got back fro three weeks in my tent.
My new hint.
Put a little straw under the floor or ground cloth.
And out front of door. and 12 inches around the sides. (when it rains the dripping wont splash muddy crap along the bottom of your tent. )
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Great idea....I'll try that out in 2 weeks :tup:
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So much good info!! I can't wait to set up my tent for the first time. I bought a Cabelas 12x20 Alakanak with a free vestibule, back when they were 20% off and free shipping. My brother in law bought the stove. We leave for Idaho on the 10th on November.
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Nice thread here! I did not see much talk on people using rain fly's. I don't have a factory rain fly for my wall tent, I bought my tent used and it did not come with one. Just wanted to share if you don't have a rain fly, a tarp over your tent roof keeps the inside of tent drier feeling. Inside roof does not get that cold, damp feeling when it is raining a lot or there is snow on roof. And I think it retains the heat inside tent. I do not cover the ends of roof so I do get some air movement. I know, a tarp on the tent may not look very good, I try to use a grey or brown tarp. But I may have had to use a blue one once or twice :yike:Good luck hunting everyone!
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I made my own.. Posted pics in this thread.
You an buy white tarps at Hardware sales in Bellingham.
Flys protect the top from embers and other. Falling junk.
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I have a Bravo tent and got rain/snow fly from him, it's white and super light weight.
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I stock my stove when I put I away,with everything I need to start the first nights fire.
Fire starter
Electric start touch
Some dry wood or presto log.
Ash shovel
I just bought my 2 nd canvas tent. Used from a buddy.
10x12 Tent
Two doors
Two windows
Rain fly
Floor
Conduit frame
Fire matts
Four dog wood stove with water jacket.
Extended stakes
And some other extras
Used about 6 days. In new condition
I paid $1200.00 total.
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Thanks for the tips on the rain fly and stove jack hole cutting. Worked great(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161106/45753b7e9fd78016c9e82338a3d78b53.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161106/88e7cdaf70fdb5dc999d7c36c90eb851.jpg)
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Where did get the fly losdaddy?
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Where did get the fly losdaddy?
PTM Tarps. 14 mil they have a nice variety of sizes. This was 16X24, then cut stove jack hole with the instructions from other members here.
http://www.ptmtarps.com/clear-heavy-duty-tarps/
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Mylar umm Good idea.
How many guys use something behind their stoves to protect the wall?
I had two stove jacks installed in my tent when I bought it from Davis, one just to the right and 2/3rds to the front and the other in the front right side wall. When i setup the stove to the use the stove jack in the side wall it does get really hot on the canvas and i starting using a sheet of aluminum to block the heat, but I found its easier to heat the whole tent with using less wood when the stove is in the center of the tent.
Another way to spread the heat is to get one of those non electric fans that works from the heat of the stove. These work really well. Just set it on top of your stove and they go to work.
http://www.garrettwade.com/caframo-ecofans-gp.html?scid=W6071005&gclid=CO6V04z9lNACFQ9EfgodZPQGzg
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I looked at those,but they were $100.00 plus a pop in my area.
I went to k mart and got battery fan. Use it for moving heat or cool air in summer.
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Just thought I would add an update on our maiden outing with our new Davis 14x16 setup. We spent 4 days in snow and some wind in the Little Belt Mtns and it was outstanding! Have a stove that we picked up from the boys in-law and refurbished it a bit. After figuring how to set it at night, woke up a bit cold 1st night :chuckle:, it held a fire and heat all nite. Used a deep cycle battery-inverter with a 4 ft LED shoplight and it worked great. ran it about 4-5 hrs a day and it lasted 4 days on 1 battery.
Took us about 2 1/2 hrs to tear down and move east to deer hunt and maybe 2 hrs to set it back up. We got an extra set of angles for a kitchen awning and used a seperate tarp for that we paid 45 bucks for. Worked great. All in all cant say enough good about Davis tents and our set up. Can't wait for the next trip already :)
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Excellent
I know that I cant wait to get back out in my 10x12 tents . :tup:
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Here is a photo of our Bravo tent and snow fly. Main tent is 15x15 with a 15x9 cooking/mud room area. The snow fly covers the entire 15x24 setup. We use motorcycle ratchet straps to secure the tent. They really tighten it down and don't come loose.
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Nice
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I have been playing around with pressed logs in my dog stoves.
Seems to me that the round logs burn hotter and longer than the square ones.
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One LED shop light uses 36 watts = Four 60 watt equilvalent LED bulbs = two LED Bulbs for the tent, one for cookshack and one for the park area.
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How do you run your LEDs? This is something I want to do this year instead of lanterns
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What do you guys use for tent stakes? The ones that came with my tent bent at the bottom
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1/2 rebar sharpened to a point with welded hook at end.
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What do you guys use for tent stakes? The ones that came with my tent bent at the bottom
I use 45 nail stakes from walmart and they work great.,45 because i use bungies all around to hold tarp.
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My Reliable TP and Tent, Wall tent came with 12 inch heavy stakes with almost full curL on top. They work well.
My 2nd tent , came with after market 16 inch stakes out of rebar. Bought on line.
I have seen guys use four metal fence poles and string a line around them. Than take all the eve lines to the rope.
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We used 2' sections of rebar driven at an angle so logs (6-8') could be laid down between the stakes and lower tent ground section. This to help prevent the tent from being lifted by the wind (it blew pretty hard on a regular basis where we were).
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I took 5 foot barbed wire fence posts and cut them up 18" long and drilled a hole in the top. Pound them in at an angle and then hook the motorcycle hook through the hole and to the tent D ring. Rock solid.
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What do you guys use for tent stakes? The ones that came with my tent bent at the bottom
I use forming nails, they don't bend. Just make sure you bring a sledge hammer to drive them in :tup:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Blue-Hawk-Steel-Rebar-Pins-Common-0-75-in-x-24-in-Actual-0-75-in-x-24-in/4008157
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How much clearance do I need for the stove pipe. Right now my stove pipe fits through the hole but touches the fabric on all sides. I can freely move the material around without moving the stove pipe. Is that OK or do I need to trim it
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Center the pipe in the hole.
Is your pipe 5 inch or 6 nch is the stove jack the same?
Just touching is not a problem.
My Three and Four dog stoves get the hottest, center top and sides.
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Like this 5 inch pipe and jack.
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Yes its a 5 inch pipe looks like this
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I would trim it to just shy of the first thread line from the pipe.
But take a vote here. Who agrees ,disagree .?
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I've been using a 6 inch pipe that fits pretty much like the picture above for over 20 years with no problem but I also have a side jack and not a top jack. Just bought a second tent and it came with a top jack, not sure how I am gonna like it but it was cheaper that way. My friends tent has a top jack and it seems to drop water in on stove when it is raining hard, that will get annoying.
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Tight is fine with most current materials, most of those silicone collars can withstand temps approaching 1000 degrees just fine. The worst that will happen is the material scorches, I would not trim the collar for a looser fit to be more water tight.
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I've been using a 6 inch pipe that fits pretty much like the picture above for over 20 years with no problem but I also have a side jack and not a top jack. Just bought a second tent and it came with a top jack, not sure how I am gonna like it but it was cheaper that way. My friends tent has a top jack and it seems to drop water in on stove when it is raining hard, that will get annoying.
Good point. I don't think the fact that it is touching is going to hurt anything.
My pipe has about a 1/8 inch clearance. But in heavy rain I have had some rain come down the pipe. But if the stove is cooking it sizzles off fast.
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Ok thanks I will just leave it alone.
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Where did get the fly losdaddy?
PTM Tarps. 14 mil they have a nice variety of sizes. This was 16X24, then cut stove jack hole with the instructions from other members here.
http://www.ptmtarps.com/clear-heavy-duty-tarps/
How did the tarp hold up? very interested in this method
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This is the next idea I was toying around with doing. I found this on the good ol' google last night. The owner used a dimmer switch and a deep cycle battery.
How can I get a break down on this?
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Held up great. Very nice quality and I like the clear tap for the added light in the tent. I only wish I would have started using this setup earlier!
Where did get the fly losdaddy?
PTM Tarps. 14 mil they have a nice variety of sizes. This was 16X24, then cut stove jack hole with the instructions from other members here.
http://www.ptmtarps.com/clear-heavy-duty-tarps/
How did the tarp hold up? very interested in this method
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Held up great. Very nice quality and I like the clear tap for the added light in the tent. I only wish I would have started using this setup earlier!
Where did get the fly losdaddy?
PTM Tarps. 14 mil they have a nice variety of sizes. This was 16X24, then cut stove jack hole with the instructions from other members here.
http://www.ptmtarps.com/clear-heavy-duty-tarps/
How did the tarp hold up? very interested in this method
I have been using white tarps for rain flys. My thinking was allowed light put gave some protection and maybe uv protection.
Any idea if this clear fly gives any uv protection. I bought a 2nd new tent from a hunting buddy last fall and need a fly for it.
I like to use different colored tarps for a different purpase. All black tarps are ground tarps or floors ,all white are flys,etc.
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Their website says they offer 100% uv protection.
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How's everyone store your canvas tent when not in use ?
I have a walk in attic where I hang it with a small heater in the room.
When I transport it I put in a large back pack decoy bag to protect to and from camp.
Some guys store their tents in drums or garbage cans.
How do you do It.
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Big g-can with wheels, easy to move.
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50 gallon Rubbermaid tote holds 14x16 tent, angle kit, ropes, rain fly.
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Mine came with a canvas storage bag. It works great.
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Mine came with a canvas storage bag. It works great.
:yeah:
Mine is a bravo, came in canvas storage bag as well. Tent connector joints came in their own bag and the pipe for the frame was in it's own bags made from the same heavy duty material used on the floor.
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Both of mine came with canvas bags ,but prefer not to use them for the tents. Like something a little tougher and bigger.
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Well now that good weather is coming, I am thinking of working on my two canvas tents. I bought my 2 nd 10x12 after deer camp last year from my buddy.
It came with conduit frame ,lots of extras and a four dog stove. I have the stove dailed in for use in our cook shack and plan to buy a new three dog for the tent.
I haven't set this tent up yet so planning to do so soon. And tweet it to my system.
Marking the poles with colored electrical tape.
I already bought new stakes for it that match my other tent.
I stock my stoves with everything I need for the first nights fire. Often we are beat the first day in camp because we got up at 2am,drove 5-8 hours and set up a cook shack and several tents. Nice to not have to cut wood the first day.
So I stock my stoves. With
Nesting pipe
Damper
Propane torch
Dural fire starter bars
two or three pressed logs.
Side shelves
Clean out shovel
Pot holder
Ready to go once the tent is up"
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Sooo for you Pellet stove guys out there, Is there any advantage to just throwing some pellets in your stove at night with the wood?
No hopper or anything ,just couple scoops of pellets. Anyone ever try it?
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Well I. Got my # 2 tent frame out and set it up this afternoon. My buddy I bought it from complained he couldn't put it up by himself because the conduit poles came apart on him.
I couldn't understand the problem because my # 1 tent has a aluminum frame and the pole ends have raised areas so they stay plugged into the angle better.
But this conduit frame slips in the angles kind of loose. I set down and looked at it for awhile and came up with the idea of stretching a 30 inch bungee between the angles.
That's about 6 inches shorter than the distance.
Snap
It pulled the frame right in tight. Excellent
Nine bungees will solve the problem. Now you might not have the problem with two guys. But I set up alone.
And once the tent is on the frame the issues goes away.
A bonus is the bungees also provide a place to hang light weight items.
I guess you could do the same thing with a rachet stap or some rope.
I also marked all my poles and angles with colored electrical tape for faster build when I have novice helper.
Match the colors.
Some pics.
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I use some little self tapping screws for the same issue. Usually only have to do the first side.
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I do the same thing with the colored electric tape. I like the bungee idea. Thanks,
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So
How many of you tuck your mud flap under your tent legs.
And if you do, how do you lift the leg and pull the flap under by yourself, or with help.
I have done it and also not worried about it. The neatness part of me wants to tuck it, but I need to figure a way to lift the leg and pull the flap under by myself in old age if that's what I am going to do.
The last couple times I didn't worry about it. :dunno:
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So
How many of you tuck your mud flap under your tent legs.
And if you do, how do you lift the leg and pull the flap under by yourself, or with help.
I have done it and also not worried about it. The neatness part of me wants to tuck it, but I need to figure a way to lift the leg and pull the flap under by myself in old age if that's what I am going to do.
The last couple times I didn't worry about it. :dunno:
My mudflaps (sod cloth) stay on the outside so rain drains away. I put some rocks on it to keep it in place. Also just an idea for you. The tape for color coding works for a while but moisture and use it will eventually wear off. From my experience anyway. A couple years ago I put my frame together and color coded the joints with spray paint. Its held up great so far.
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I don't usually have a problem with draining as I put a rain fly tarp I made over the tents the Eve's are out two feet from the tent that's has worked well for me. We had some real heavy rain last year near Twisp.
I have found with the sod cloth out if it does get rain the water tends to pool on them.
Yeah the tape can wear some. I am about three years into that system and have had to redo a couple.
I keep a supply of colored tape in my tent box.
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I have my # 2 tent setup for the first time since I bought it from a buddy.
Changing some ,
Ropes,stakes, color coding.
Picking up another stove from a member on here in the am.
Got the sides up so my daughters rat dog doesn't pee on it.
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So I bought those bases that cabela's has for my tent legs. With those on and before you stake the tent down I tuck the sod cloth under them. Just lift the leg with one hand and pull the cloth under, then you can pull the cloth with both hands and the base slides on it pretty easy. You can get it really tight and then stake the edges down.
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Well finished up working on the #2 tent today.
I was walking around Lowes the other day and came across those long handled water keys you use to turn water valves.
Gave me a idea.
I bought a couple broke off the fork and bent a hook on the end. Works great for pulling tent stakes and hooking the ends of frame tubes on the ground to pick them up.
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I like the way you think. Great idea!
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I like the way you think. Great idea!
Trying to make so I can wall tent into my elderly years. Saves the back a little.
Pulling stakes is my least favorite chore.
Just added it up. Slept 59 days in a wall tent over two years. Wish it were double that.
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I envy that number...
Gotta few more years before I can see those sort of numbers.
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I envy that number...
Gotta few more years before I can see those sort of numbers.
Started a log book for each tent where it was set up,who was there, weather,any issues
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Can you guess what these are for.?
I made them out of odds and ends on my work bench.
Yes the saddles are different sizes just because that's what I had.
Hint....The far left is one of my tent legs.
You'll have to wait till next weekend for a demo. Out of time.
This idea is untested. But two bottles of Pepsi thought went in to it. :IBCOOL:
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Good tease!
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As far as the conduit frame coming apart while setting up by yourself I use duct tape and tape all the joints together so they don't fall out. After the first setup I did this and it works great. Eventually I'll get the snap together frame and not worry about it
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Well while the wife was away , I got tent # 1 up today.
I used those two sticks with hoops above.
The idea was ,that setting up by myself ,it was awkward to lift the frame and hold a leg to shove in a angle at the same time.
I slid the two hoops on the frame between the 1&2 legs,and the 3&4 legs than lifted the frame with both hands.
The sticks rotated down as I lifted creating to teporary legs. Than it was easy to walk a long and install the legs.
When all legs were installed the sticks were a inch off the ground and easy to remove.
The smaller hoop worked better than the larger ,so I am going to change the large one for a small one.
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Once tent one was up I took advantage of our good weather and used some ISSO on the dirt spots. Hosed it down good.
This nice weather is great for working on the tents.
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very good idea,i will try this one
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Has anyone added eve sleeves to their tent? I got a used tent last year and it has a ridge pole sleeve but no corner sleeves. I'd like to extend the frame with all 3 poles instead of just the ridge pole to make it sturdier. I don't wanna just cut holes and risk having it start splitting. I thought about getting some vinyl like wall tentshop.com does for their tents and glue it in the corners so it doesn't tear when I cut slits. Has anyone done this?
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Has anyone added eve sleeves to their tent? I got a used tent last year and it has a ridge pole sleeve but no corner sleeves. I'd like to extend the frame with all 3 poles instead of just the ridge pole to make it sturdier. I don't wanna just cut holes and risk having it start splitting. I thought about getting some vinyl like wall tentshop.com does for their tents and glue it in the corners so it doesn't tear when I cut slits. Has anyone done this?
I think you could get the job done by adding loops the size of your frame. That way no harm if you don't like it or don't need them.
Kind of like a exterior frame tent.
If I were doing it, I would have webbing loops sew along the eves evenly spaced and slip the frame through the loops. Have to decide how big the loops should be. If you are cutting frame material where you camp you might need 3-4 inch loops. :dunno:
ummm there might be a way to have a adjustable loop ???
Maybe something like a webbing belt, fold in half and sew to the eve, than adjust size with a buckle??????
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Well I ordered a set of nesting pipe from four dog to replace the pipe that came with the cylinder stove I bought on here.
The pipe was ok but Ididnt like that the cylinder stove pipe gets bigger at the top.
Made it tough to push through the jack from inside. So I just bought a new set.
Burned off the coating with the weed burner.
And got the idea to cut small notches in each section to show the order they go together. The four dog pipe comes stamped with a number but over time it's hard to see.
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Anyone ever use these sleeves.
Thinking of using them on my #2 tent to conserve space.
https://www.walltentshop.com/collections/tent-camping-gear/products/rafter-sleeve-10
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Don't own a walltent yet but here's an idea we use in one of our pop up blind locations. Cut out the bottom of a 5 gallon paint bucket. Pick a corner where you can fold back the floor. Dig the bucket into ground so just even with ground level. Place lid over bucket fold floor over top. You now have a boys and girls #1 Place to go at night. Absolutely no #2's in the tent!
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Well while the wife was away , I got tent # 1 up today.
I used those two sticks with hoops above.
The idea was ,that setting up by myself ,it was awkward to lift the frame and hold a leg to shove in a angle at the same time.
I slid the two hoops on the frame between the 1&2 legs,and the 3&4 legs than lifted the frame with both hands.
The sticks rotated down as I lifted creating to teporary legs. Than it was easy to walk a long and install the legs.
When all legs were installed the sticks were a inch off the ground and easy to remove.
The smaller hoop worked better than the larger ,so I am going to change the large one for a small one.
Great idea! :tup:
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I like it :tup:
Ok for the younger folks, little risky for us seniors. :yike:
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Since I'm looking at getting a wall tent, figured I would bump this up again. A lot of good info in here. I may have missed this in here already, but is it worth getting an aluminum frame over a steal frame? I won't be packing this tent in, just unloading it from the truck and setting it up so weight isn't that much of a deal. Didn't know if steel would be better if I'm going to be hanging a bunch of additional things from the frame.
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Glad to see this thread again! I bought two of those PTM tarps. Now we can have a big overhang, or set up an entire cook shack.
As to pole material; either aluminum or steel poles works fine, I've had both.
We now use a military surplus SHA stove.
It can burn wood, coal, three different grades of jet fuel, kerosine, or just plain diesel. It burns about 5 gallons per week if it's cold. Kind of nice reaching over and turning a knob up or down, to adjust the temperature of the tent. Every season, camp gets a little better!
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I have a 12 x18 wall tent and use 48 inch bungees as tie downs. Work great and provide plenty of stretch in windy conditions plus are extremely fast to attatch and store.
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Glad to see this thread again! I bought two of those PTM tarps. Now we can have a big overhang, or set up an entire cook shack.
As to pole material; either aluminum or steel poles works fine, I've had both.
We now use a military surplus SHA stove.
It can burn wood, coal, three different grades of jet fuel, kerosine, or just plain diesel. It burns about 5 gallons per week if it's cold. Kind of nice reaching over and turning a knob up or down, to adjust the temperature of the tent. Every season, camp gets a little better!
How big of a tent are you heating with one and do you ever have a problem with smell on your clothes? I've been curios about one of these for a while now.
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A electric leaf blower works real good at getting that last little bit of ash out of your wood stove when you get home. :tup:
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Question
Has anyone Sprayed there wall tent with Thompson's water seal?
If so. What are the pro's and con's? Was is stiff? etc Did it seal good?
Someone mentioned it a while ago and I was considering trying this out.
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Anyone have any pictures of stove side boot dryers they made? We're hunting 3rd season Colorado this year with 5 of us and I'm trying to put something together.
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1/2 rebar sharpened to a point with welded hook at end.
We use Spikes aka very large nails with a washer so the rope doesn’t slip off.
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Surprised to find this online. But remember a member here making the same claim.
I think his spark arrestor issues are common to anyone who has used one.
And I think the slack on the frame could be solved, but that wouldn’t bother me.
I have a 10 x 12 I bought used from a buddy and I like it fine.
Any how food for thought if you are looking for a tent.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xxQirdi0rUs
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Bought a couple of these food grade barrels to store my tents in.
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Good idea :tup: I may have to do this, mines just in the corner of my garage and always worried about mice or rats or somthing chewing on it
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I was thinking today about summer camping. In the wall tent. I have some Battery fans I run during hot months.
But I Was wondering if leaving the stove jack open and putting some bug screen over it to keep bugs out would aid in cooling? Since heat rises.
Anyone done anything like that?
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I need to have a stove jack sewn in and a couple seems sewed up at the peak, anyone know in eastern Washington where to take the tent, and where do I fin d the stove jack thing to have sewn in.
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Ghosthunter, I had a thought about this with my brothers tent. The thought was, if you opened the flaps on the eves (if equipped for rope support) And ran a pipe under the tent mid-way on the shade side, it would create air flow. Cooler air from the bottom of the shade side venting out the top of the tent as it heats. A battery fan on the exit points would only increase air flow. Just make sure to zip tie some fine mesh on the bottom pipe for critters. It was a thought that never was tested. Just made sense to me. The heat coming from the exit points, combined with the outflow of air would keep the bugs out.
Just a thought !
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I need to have a stove jack sewn in and a couple seems sewed up at the peak, anyone know in eastern Washington where to take the tent, and where do I fin d the stove jack thing to have sewn in.
The Wall tent shop in Moscow Id, or Yakima tent in Yakima, Wa.
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I need to have a stove jack sewn in and a couple seems sewed up at the peak, anyone know in eastern Washington where to take the tent, and where do I fin d the stove jack thing to have sewn in.
The Wall tent shop in Moscow Id, or Yakima tent in Yakima, Wa.
You can get stove jacks on line from almost any tent maker.
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Well I was reading on another thread that folks were having trouble with moisture forming between their sleeping pad and cot in a wall tent.
I have never had this problem in my wall tents. I did experience it in a friends one year.
I think the solution is not to have dead air space under your cot or empty air space. And more padding between you and cot.
Anyone else. ?????
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I think part of the problem is the pad that I am using is a cloth wrapped foam pad, not one of those air up pads where you open the valve and it airs up. The material on those would hold up better to the moisture I would think.
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Also we keep a pan of water on the stove for moisture in the tent. My daughter gets bloody noses from the dry air sleeping in the wall tent with the wood stove blazing.
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Also we keep a pan of water on the stove for moisture in the tent. My daughter gets bloody noses from the dry air sleeping in the wall tent with the wood stove blazing.
I am considering doing the same this year but also am doubting that we will be able to have a fire so might not work quite as well. No fun sleeping with tp stuffed up your nose. :o
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I use a high loft bag with a foam pad under it and under that I have the bag stuff bag and other odd end bags. I store my clothes bags under my bunk. and keep all window cracked about four inches. No moisture issues.
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Also we keep a pan of water on the stove for moisture in the tent. My daughter gets bloody noses from the dry air sleeping in the wall tent with the wood stove blazing.
I am considering doing the same this year but also am doubting that we will be able to have a fire so might not work quite as well. No fun sleeping with tp stuffed up your nose. :o
No and when she gets them they are bad, big blood clots. She has the same issue at our cabin in the winter, the air is so cold and dry outside and then dry wood heat in the cabin. One step that we take is she puts Aquafor on a Q tip and coats the inside of her nostrils with that. That seems to help as well.
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I have two wall tents.
One with the stove jack to the right of the door. Tent #1
The other has a door each end with the stove jack to the back right, or front left depending how I set it up. Tent #2
For some reason I like tent # 1 layout best even though #2 is a better tent.
Do you have a preference and why?
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I have only known stove on the left and you walk in. I could hardly imagine any other configuration. But I dislike change too :chuckle:
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I think the reason I like the stove near the entrance is it’s easy to grab some wood just outside on same side. It might have to do with being right handed. :dunno:
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I like that it keeps the mud/muck to a minimum at the entrance by keeping the ground dry there. Helps minimize mess the rest of the way into the tent. Also, when it gets to warm, you seem to be able to cool the tent down easier with stove by the door.
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What do all of you guys do about patches for holes? Do you sew it or is there a good glue to use with some small patches
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Canvas iron on's.With the tent up in backyard after a season if i see a hole needs repair i set up tent to dry,air out.I'll use iron on patches. work great,Have had some on for nearly 10 years now.Just have someone hold appropriate size piece of wood on inside and iron on from outside. :tup:
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Thx :tup: I ended up finding some glue and used some spare canvas leftover from getting a new door put on and it's worked great...will get to test it out in 2 weeks at elk camp :IBCOOL:
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I want to build a frame for a 14x16 tent and have found a few places for angle pieces but wondering if there are any recommendations for frame parts?
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I want to build a frame for a 14x16 tent and have found a few places for angle pieces but wondering if there are any recommendations for frame parts?
Go to the walltentshop.com the guy has every thing you need for your frame and has youtube videos showing how to meassure your tent to cut all your conduit
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Conduit is alot cheaper than buying an aluminium frame, wall tent shop.com has lots of options for angles, I'd recommend a 4 rafter frame for that size tent
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I want to build a frame for a 14x16 tent and have found a few places for angle pieces but wondering if there are any recommendations for frame parts?
Electrical conduit from Hme Depot is the best way. Fast easy & relatively cheap.
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I was thinking today about summer camping. In the wall tent. I have some Battery fans I run during hot months.
But I Was wondering if leaving the stove jack open and putting some bug screen over it to keep bugs out would aid in cooling? Since heat rises.
Anyone done anything like that?
A window shacker A/C unit with Honda 2000 works great!
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Inside tent pic.
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Since I'm looking at getting a wall tent, figured I would bump this up again. A lot of good info in here. I may have missed this in here already, but is it worth getting an aluminum frame over a steal frame? I won't be packing this tent in, just unloading it from the truck and setting it up so weight isn't that much of a deal. Didn't know if steel would be better if I'm going to be hanging a bunch of additional things from the frame.
I have two tents . One aluminum frame,one conduit. The conduit frame tent is a better tent with doors both ends and two windows. However I find if I only need one I tend to lean to the aluminum frame just because it is so much lighter and the rafters are two piece. So easier to transport.
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Has anyone tried pure peppermint oil to keep mice away from your tent while hunting?
Going to give it a try this year. Boy is that stuff strong.
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Has anyone tried pure peppermint oil to keep mice away from your tent while hunting?
Going to give it a try this year. Boy is that stuff strong.
What do you do with the peppermint oil? Pour it around the perimeter?
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I haven't tried any deterrent, just traps. Have killed a lot of mice.
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Has anyone tried pure peppermint oil to keep mice away from your tent while hunting?
Going to give it a try this year. Boy is that stuff strong.
What do you do with the peppermint oil? Pour it around the perimeter?
Put a couple drops on cotton balls around out side of tent.
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Has anyone tried pure peppermint oil to keep mice away from your tent while hunting?
Going to give it a try this year. Boy is that stuff strong.
nope a mouse trap on each corner and each side of the door and ive usually got most of em by day 4. 2017 was a new rodent record for me
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I used chain link fence rails & attachments for my frame which matched my commercial one closely. Used hole saw to trim ends for welding angle pieces.
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Well was out 20 days. Caught 7 mice in 24 hour traps around cook shack.
Used the perpetmint oil around the tents and not one mouse seen in 20 days.
The cook shack was 15 feet from the tent in elk camp.
I think the peppermint oil worked.
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How much oil? Cotton balls every 6 ft or what?
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So I had all three stoves going this trip.
Three dog,four dog and a cylinder stove from UT.
One thing I tried was running them without dampers. I really do t see a need for a damper. The dog stoves have a baffle at pipe outlet to keep heat down.
The dampers seem to clog after a week of use with chealsote.
They all were easy to control heat out put by controlling air intake.
Anyone tried this?
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How much oil? Cotton balls every 6 ft or what?
I put three cotton balls on each side of a 10x12 tent.
I used four drops of oil per ball.
Peppermint oil runs about 15.00 for a small bottle.
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One of my messy chores is getting the chesolte out of the pipes for storage and getting that last bit of ash out of the stoves.
The best method for the pipes I ha e found is to put them in a camp fire. And pick them off with a 5ft rod. Tap while hot and they come real clean.
Getting the last bit of ash out, I have e tried several things. Just can’t get it all out at camp by dumping. The best method I have found is leaf blower through the pipe hole.
Now this is messy for the surrounding area,so I suggest you do it when the wife is not home. And if you live in a apartment complex forget it.
But it does the job.
Any other methods?
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Only used dampers with super dry wood or tamarack when its not too cold out so you dont get blown out with heat. If cold out controlling air intake is all i need.
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For cleaning the pipes out I use a branch off of a douglas fir tree. Use it like a chimney sweep brush and get all the soot out.
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One of my messy chores is getting the chesolte out of the pipes for storage and getting that last bit of ash out of the stoves.
The best method for the pipes I ha e found is to put them in a camp fire. And pick them off with a 5ft rod. Tap while hot and they come real clean.
Getting the last bit of ash out, I have e tried several things. Just can’t get it all out at camp by dumping. The best method I have found is leaf blower through the pipe hole.
Now this is messy for the surrounding area,so I suggest you do it when the wife is not home. And if you live in a apartment complex forget it.
But it does the job.
Any other methods?
I use a bunch of old socks that I lay out on top of each other and place a rope in the middle then zip tie it.👍
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Anyone have any tips for camp showers?
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I gave up on camp showers a few years ago. Got tired of setting them up.
A hunting partner has one of those Cabela's water heater shower things. He strips naked and takes a shower right out in the open on a rubber mat.
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Anyone have any tips for camp showers?
We go into town 3-4 days into the hunt, rent a hotel, everyone takes a shower. Then we grab a bite to eat in town and head back to camp.
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Anyone have any tips for camp showers?
Hit up the closest State Park, I used Pearygin every other day. A $1.00 in quarters and I am a happy camper again.
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Yeah
Eagle Rock Resort for those hunting around 410. Has pay showers.
And around Twisp the laundry mat near hanks has pay showers.
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Just use baby wipes while your at camp....it refreshes u :chuckle:
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Yeah I use them every night and morning ,but after 10 days of a 24 day hunt even baby wipes don’t do the trick. :chuckle:
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Anyone have any tips for camp showers?
I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.
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I use the bath wipes you get in Hospitols. You can do your whole body with one anticeptic wipe.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Assurance-Premium-Extra-Large-Disposable-Washcloths-XL-144-Ct/24360534?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=4195&adid=22222222228017436207&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=40754593832&wl4=pla-78606705992&wl5=1024220&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=24360534&wl13=4195&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwPzYn7-q3gIViNlkCh1iugtlEAQYAiABEgJof_D_BwE
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I usually lay a tarp down for the floor, then lay carpet on top of that. The carpet was really heavy and took up 1/2 of my toyota bed. Anyone have any ideas for a CHEAP and light floor? I checked the indoor/outdoor carpet from home depot but it was about $1.50 SF. that will cost way too much for me in my 12x20 tent. Thanks.
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Home Depot has the smaller, pre-cut indoor/outdoor carpets that I think are 5’x10’. They are the more woven fiber vs Astro turf type. They fold up small and you could use 3-4 for the whole floor, pin the edges with sod staples. Easier to clean up and all 4 would fit in a medium tote. I think they ran about $20 each iirc. I use one for in front of my trailer door and it works perfect.
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thanks I will look for them tomorrow.
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Whatever you do figure on a ground cloth. A tarp works well for a ground cloth than when you tear down you just fold the muddy side in and hose it off at home.
I label my ground cloth, tent floors, and flys front and back and what tent they go too.
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If you have a salvage store in your area sometimes they have turf they bought from schools cheap.
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So a tarp alone would work fine as a floor?
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Anyone have any tips for camp showers?
I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.
That’s bad ass dude! Might need to figure out how to make one myself that’s what I had in mind. There’s no showers or state parks where I go in Idaho or I would hit them up!
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Anyone have any tips for camp showers?
I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.
That’s bad ass dude! Might need to figure out how to make one myself that’s what I had in mind. There’s no showers or state parks where I go in Idaho or I would hit them up!
You can also just put a big pot on a stove/burner, buy an RV pump and hoses. Put a shower head on on end, put the suction part in the pot when warm and have at it. It works really well.
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So a tarp alone would work fine as a floor?
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Basically, Yes.
The problem with a tarp is it will tend to bunch up when you walk on it. This could be over come with a couple throw rugs in the traffic area. I would get two standard tarps if you go that route as one will likely get dampish from the ground. A little straw under the floor is a good thing too if you have it.
Most wall tent floors you buy are just heavy tarps. They can be hard to unroll and smooth out in cold weather.
If you do tarps by about 6 inches bigger on all sides than you need. Helps seal the floor.
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I usually lay a tarp down for the floor, then lay carpet on top of that. The carpet was really heavy and took up 1/2 of my toyota bed. Anyone have any ideas for a CHEAP and light floor? I checked the indoor/outdoor carpet from home depot but it was about $1.50 SF. that will cost way too much for me in my 12x20 tent. Thanks.
We use dryer felt for a floor in our tents and it works great.
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Anyone have any tips for camp showers?
I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.
That’s bad ass dude! Might need to figure out how to make one myself that’s what I had in mind. There’s no showers or state parks where I go in Idaho or I would hit them up!
Go to your local feed store. They sell them as hot water heaters for bathing horses.
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Asking this for Pathfinder101. I dont have time to look back through all 24 pages so if this has been mentioned already please forgive me.
During our Idaho hunt we hit some pretty good rain and the wall tent did not hold up. Yes, I know that we should have had a tarp over it. Anyway, is there some kind of magic tent treatment that will restore the water repellent of the canvas? some kind of spray or something?
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We've treated with Canvak and had good luck.
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Anyone have any tips for camp showers?
I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.
I'm glad you posted this. We've owned a couple of them and I never even thought about using it on myself. Great post.
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I run a tarp on the ground then I have a big canvas tarp I lay on the floor of my tent...works great
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Going with a Honda generator this year. What is everyone using for light in their tents that uses a generator. I was thinking these shatterproof led ones? Thoughts?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4XMN38/ref=twister_B07GJYSGV5?_encoding=UTF8&th=1
Jason
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Going with a Honda generator this year. What is everyone using for light in their tents that uses a generator. I was thinking these shatterproof led ones? Thoughts?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4XMN38/ref=twister_B07GJYSGV5?_encoding=UTF8&th=1
Jason
On sale at Costco now for 38.99 in Burlington, I have them in my barn there tough.
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I usually lay a tarp down for the floor, then lay carpet on top of that. The carpet was really heavy and took up 1/2 of my toyota bed. Anyone have any ideas for a CHEAP and light floor? I checked the indoor/outdoor carpet from home depot but it was about $1.50 SF. that will cost way too much for me in my 12x20 tent. Thanks.
I do the same. I bought the thinner blue black stuff not the astro turf style. It was only .87 cent a foot
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Might as well make your camping quarters as comfy as possible with the longer time spent in there.
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We have a tarp that stretches across the back half of my tent. And then I have 3'x5' strips of carpet remnants that we put in front of each cot or between two cots depending on how many people we have that year.
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I use old bath mats in front of my cot and doorway.
I also use an older down sleeping bag between my cot pad and my sleeping bag. Keeps the backside nice and warm all night.
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I usually lay a tarp down for the floor, then lay carpet on top of that. The carpet was really heavy and took up 1/2 of my toyota bed. Anyone have any ideas for a CHEAP and light floor? I checked the indoor/outdoor carpet from home depot but it was about $1.50 SF. that will cost way too much for me in my 12x20 tent. Thanks.
I do the same. I bought the thinner blue black stuff not the astro turf style. It was only .87 cent a foot
I used these with a inverter and a marine battery. Worked great. Nice and quiet
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Going with a Honda generator this year. What is everyone using for light in their tents that uses a generator. I was thinking these shatterproof led ones? Thoughts?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4XMN38/ref=twister_B07GJYSGV5?_encoding=UTF8&th=1
Jason
Well I have a generator but didn’t even run it this year at camp.
Two years ago I switched the whole camp over to battery lanterns . We were out 24 days and only put new batteries in three lanterns out of 12.
Quite
Cook shack and tents. Used one propane lantern next to cook stove.
I hate hearing the hummm of a generator instead of the sounds of the mountains.
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Anyone have any tips for camp showers?
I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.
This is pure genius!
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Ghosthunter, I use a similar setup as your last pic, a Costco folding table, for the BBQ and Grill, hosed to a propane tree with a lantern on top.
One more addition, I added the battery powered LED work lights, they run 100 hrs on 4 AA batteries, at 240 Lumins. Tough little lights, they we in the bargain bin at Lowes for $4.99
No more Lanterns with 4 D size,, that last a few hours.
https://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Compact-Technology-Batteries-Included/dp/B01BCMXJES/ref=sr_1_30_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1542045335&sr=8-30-spons&keywords=battery+led+worklight&psc=1
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Ghosthunter, I use a similar setup as your last pic, a Costco folding table, for the BBQ and Grill, hosed to a propane tree with a lantern on top.
One more addition, I added the battery powered LED work lights, they run 100 hrs on 4 AA batteries, at 240 Lumins. Tough little lights, they we in the bargain bin at Lowes for $4.99
No more Lanterns with 4 D size,, that last a few hours.
https://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Compact-Technology-Batteries-Included/dp/B01BCMXJES/ref=sr_1_30_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1542045335&sr=8-30-spons&keywords=battery+led+worklight&psc=1
I will check those out.
I have had good luck with battery maintenance. D cells. Always looking for better ideas. But running a generator takes away from the hunt for me. My buddies all know it so they run theirs mid day while I am hunting. When the sun goes down I like hearing the woods .
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I have been using it his two tube Coleman lanterns that run off four D size batteries for years. This year the lead lights with twice the light and ten times the charge off a couple of AA batteries, got to love technology, lol
Had to replace my old sunbeam BBQ after over ten years of hard use.
Went with the Char-Broil Portable Gas Grill 240, sturdy little sucker.
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Anyone have any tips for camp showers?
I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.
This is pure genius!
:yeah: Enginutity at best!
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How often do you guys have to clean your stove pipe and or spark arrestor? My spark arrestor gets plugged about every other day if not every other day. i am burning good wood, dry lodgepole or Tamarack. Is it because i choke my stove down really low at night so it burns longer?
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Well I got rid of the spark arester. I take one with me but seldom use it.
This year I also took out the damper. I found in the three stoves I have I can control heat with air flow.
But in 20 days I cleaned the two tent stoves once during the trip. And cleaned them up when I got home.
The third stove in the cook shack pipe stayed clean for 20 days, but we run that stove wide open all the time.
The best way I found to get the build up out is to put them on the campfire get hot gently tap.
Sometimes I use a weed burner.
You can get them too hot so don’t over do it.
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Gotta scrap it or move to bottom of pipe next to stove where it will burn itself clean.
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This year my wife and kids were in camp all day with the stove dampened down. Three days in I needed to clean the pipe.
I just let it cool off, break it down and use a Doug fir branch and needles to brush it out.
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This year my wife and kids were in camp all day with the stove dampened down. Three days in I needed to clean the pipe.
I just let it cool off, break it down and use a Doug fir branch and needles to brush it out.
This is what I've always done. Often just a couple good drops on the ground and some slaps on the side will get a large amount of the build up out. When we remember them, we have a pair of welders gloves we bring so we can heat the pipe up and do this, works exceptionally well.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I am heading back up for another 4-5 days. I will have to throw the pipe in a fire i guess and get all the build up out. Seems like the guys who burn their stove hot all the time have less build up.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I am heading back up for another 4-5 days. I will have to throw the pipe in a fire i guess and get all the build up out. Seems like the guys who burn their stove hot all the time have less build up.
That's been the result for me burning three stoves. The cook shack is 10X20 and drafty so that stove is full bore all the time. And stays cleaner.
Little tougher in the 10x12 wall tents. Running those three dogs at full throttle will melt the legs of my cot. :chuckle:
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yeah that's about it. I'm in a 12x20. with a 4 dog. it will burn you out in a hurry if you let it roar. main reason i choke it down so much is so i don't have to get up much in the middle of the night. Usually get up 1 time.
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I was told burning a beer can would clear it out with a hot fire going ans would prevent buildup :dunno:
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Lessons learned tip from this last hunting trip.
Don’t forget the propane hose for your Little Buddy Heater in the garage when going on a 7 day hunt with nights in the low 20s!
And if your sleeping bag zipper partially tore away from the bag about a six inch length on your last hunting trip, it is a fantastic idea to remember to replace it “before” your next hunt that you forgot your propane hose on!
Just saying
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Couple of great tips right there. :chuckle:
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I was wondering if these wall tents have a roof or only walls?
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I was wondering if these wall tents have a roof or only walls?
Nope you have to buy those separate. :chuckle:
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If that's the case I might go with a roof tent first.
At least it protects from the rain.
Then as the budget allows I could add a wall at a time.
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If that's the case I might go with a roof tent first.
At least it protects from the rain.
Then as the budget allows I could add a wall at a time.
:o
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:fishin: :camp:
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I was wondering if these wall tents have a roof or only walls?
Most Tipi versions only have walls but some only roof.
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I was wondering if these wall tents have a roof or only walls?
Most Tipi versions only have walls but some only roof.
How can you tell if you have a wall tepee or a roof tepee?
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If you set up a tepee upside down does it have a roof?
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If you set up a tepee upside down does it have a roof?
Nope, now it’s a funnel to your cot.😉
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Oh my.
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If you set up a tepee upside down does it have a roof?
Yes it's called a sun roof though, it's an option you can get. IMHO it's not worth the extra money though it's not very good on windy days.
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Sounds like you might need a single leg cot as well.
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Maybe I need to start making upside down tipi shelters. I'm detecting some interest.
Sounds like you might need a single leg cot as well.
Just don't sit on it :yike: :yike: :yike:
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is it just me or is anyone else lost?? :dunno:
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Well obviously I'm lost.
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Well obviously I'm lost.
Always sound advice to never sit on the one legged cot
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Lets leave Jonathan_S alone so he can camp with his one legged cot and return to wall tents :dunno:
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is it just me or is anyone else lost?? :dunno:
Not lost here just watch out for one legged cots in your elk camp........ :dunno: Oh ya always order the walls first so nobody sees the one legged cot. Then order the roof before fall rains down into the walls and floats the one legged cot over the walls flooding into neighboring wall renters with one legged cots surrounded by floating firewood from walls of fire wood........... :chuckle:
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is it just me or is anyone else lost?? :dunno:
Not lost here just watch out for one legged cots in your elk camp........ :dunno: Oh ya always order the walls first so nobody sees the one legged cot. Then order the roof before fall rains down into the walls and floats the one legged cot over the walls flooding into neighboring wall renters with one legged cots surrounded by floating firewood from walls of fire wood........... :chuckle:
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Wth did I just open up :chuckle:
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Wth did I just open up :chuckle:
I been here since the beginning, and have no clue. Going to take my first drink in 30years and a cold shower , maybe it will clear when I look later. :bash:
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Is an Alaknak considered an ultralight in the world of wall tents?
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Wth did I just open up :chuckle:
I been here since the beginning, and have no clue. Going to take my first drink in 30years and a cold shower , maybe it will clear when I look later. :bash:
I have some crown and coke here if you want to come have a drink and figure out what's going on :chuckle:
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Is an Alaknak considered an ultralight in the world of wall tents?
Seek outside courthouse
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Is an Alaknak considered an ultralight in the world of wall tents?
The Alaknak should be considered a half wall and roof tent.
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Is an Alaknak considered an ultralight in the world of wall tents?
Seek outside courthouse
now that's funny right there.
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Anyone have a good way of storing the tent and poles? Poles are so long they really don't fit into anything. I have my 14x16 Davis wall tent in it's bag just leaning against the wall in the shop. Maybe I'm just OCD with organizing but I hate having several sets of poles and the tent not all in one package.
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Anyone have a good way of storing the tent and poles? Poles are so long they really don't fit into anything. I have my 14x16 Davis wall tent in it's bag just leaning against the wall in the shop. Maybe I'm just OCD with organizing but I hate having several sets of poles and the tent not all in one package.
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I’ve seen pole bags that people have made. I just put each length together and wrap them tightly with electrical tape.
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I put my poles in a 10" pvc pipe cut a little longer than the rafter poles with caps on ends. I have a 10x12 and a 14x16 Davis tents. Two pieces of pvc mounted on my trailer, one for each tent. Keeps poles separated and a storage year round.
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I put my poles in a 10" pvc pipe cut a little longer than the rafter poles with caps on ends. I have a 10x12 and a 14x16 Davis tents. Two pieces of pvc mounted on my trailer, one for each tent. Keeps poles separated and a storage year round.
Great idea.👍
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:yeah: I'll be doing this now :tup:
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I put my poles in a 10" pvc pipe cut a little longer than the rafter poles with caps on ends. I have a 10x12 and a 14x16 Davis tents. Two pieces of pvc mounted on my trailer, one for each tent. Keeps poles separated and a storage year round.
That is a good idea. I have two bags for my conduit frame tent
One would be two heavy.
But the pipe would be more durabale.
My other tent is aluminum frame and a quarter of the weight.
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What do you guys do for drying out your tent after use? I have a few spots where it looks like mold is starting. Are their any treatments for mold? I do not have a heated shop and dry my tent out in my basement.
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check weather report for dry day, set up tent and stove and burn. As far as treating maybe a spray bottle with a water and a little bleach. Spray on lightly, and let it dry.
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Never bleach
Use vinegar and water and a lemon squeezed in
Works wonders
Use sprayer
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I also cleaned my entire tent that way.
Once done we coated entire tent with Thompsons water seal with sprayer. Let dry and pack up
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What do you guys do for drying out your tent after use? I have a few spots where it looks like mold is starting. Are their any treatments for mold? I do not have a heated shop and dry my tent out in my basement.
This is why I sold my canvas tent and got the alaknak! I put my canvas away dry as a bone, but stored it on my garage floor, molded up like crazy! Spent 12 hours scrubbing with a bleach solution. If I have to put my alaknak away wet, no problem!
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I hang mine in the Arctic of my garage.
With a small heater going for a month.
Than I put it in a food 50 gal drum.
When the weather turns nice again I will set it up and hose it off, scrub any spots and dry on the frame roll up and back in drum. I also use this time to check for any problems.
Several of the tent companies have cleaners for canvas.
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i will look for cleaners. i was planning on letting it dry out in my basement for about a week. Thanks for the advice.
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i have a wall tent if anyone is looking into getting one, i want to try the alaknak style, so might as well sell my tent to start saving for an alaknak. it measues 9x11, i think when you tighten the fram up its a 10x12, no floor 3 foot walls, metal frame, not perfect but for soeone starting out or wants to try the wall tent style hit me up no stove jack either
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Why bother waterproofing a tent if your just gonna set it up in the garage?
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Time to get this warmed up again. Had my #1 tent out for turkey hunting. Missed being in it. We left the wood stove home because the forecast was for 52-80.
So we took the Big Buddy. Rained last three days andI missed the drying powers of the wood stove. Won’t do that again.
Was able to set it up on a nice day when we got home to clean it up and hose it down. Nice and dry. 140 days logged in the wall tents now.
Good time to get them out and work on them some.
Re- color coded my frame poles with colored tape.
Got some kayak fishing trips with the wall tents planned for this year , than hunting.
Come on fire up those canvas tent tips.
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Fired up my new Q pellet stove I got at the sportsman show and cured the paint. Hoping it keeps the tent warm this year. Taking the trusted cylinder stove just in case.
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I've never considered days logged in the wall tent before. First one was when I was 15, and it's been 10+ days a year since then. Some years significantly more than that. That was 20 years ago. 200+ days for sure.
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I've never considered days logged in the wall tent before. First one was when I was 15, and it's been 10+ days a year since then. Some years significantly more than that. That was 20 years ago. 200+ days for sure.
Fine living right there.
I keep a log / guest book in each tent box. We write in it each trip. Where we were, how many days,any special happening or things we wish we had in the tent.
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Fired up my new Q pellet stove I got at the sportsman show and cured the paint. Hoping it keeps the tent warm this year. Taking the trusted cylinder stove just in case.
Got any pics of it?
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Fired up my new Q pellet stove I got at the sportsman show and cured the paint. Hoping it keeps the tent warm this year. Taking the trusted cylinder stove just in case.
Got any pics of it?
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I've never considered days logged in the wall tent before. First one was when I was 15, and it's been 10+ days a year since then. Some years significantly more than that. That was 20 years ago. 200+ days for sure.
Fine living right there.
I keep a log / guest book in each tent box. We write in it each trip. Where we were, how many days,any special happening or things we wish we had in the tent.
That's a great idea.
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Fired up my new Q pellet stove I got at the sportsman show and cured the paint. Hoping it keeps the tent warm this year. Taking the trusted cylinder stove just in case.
Got any pics of it?
Real curious how this works out...I almost pulled the trigger on this at the show
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Fired up my new Q pellet stove I got at the sportsman show and cured the paint. Hoping it keeps the tent warm this year. Taking the trusted cylinder stove just in case.
Got any pics of it?
Real curious how this works out...I almost pulled the trigger on this at the show
I will be posting results for sure.
We normally hunt late season where high temp in camp is 30, lows are in the single digits some years.
This year I’m going to montana for September elk hunting. Gonna take it for that as well. I’m sure it will be fine for that. It will be nice to not have to get wood.
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Yeah that looks like it would take up less space too.
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Is it September yet? All this wall tent and wood stove talk has me dreaming of Oregon's archery elk Aug 24th opener!!
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I can’t wait ,so I am getting out on some four day scouting trips in the tent.
Each month.
Best sleep all year in a wall tent.
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Last year made three trips to Oregon for a total of 15 days in the wall tent. It just doesnt get any better. Heck if my back yard was bigger I could see putting up the wall tent and spending a few nights a month sleeping in it :chuckle: No TV, no computer, no screaming kids, no electricity. :camp:
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Fired up my new Q pellet stove I got at the sportsman show and cured the paint. Hoping it keeps the tent warm this year. Taking the trusted cylinder stove just in case.
Got any pics of it?
Real curious how this works out...I almost pulled the trigger on this at the show
I will be posting results for sure.
We normally hunt late season where high temp in camp is 30, lows are in the single digits some years.
This year I’m going to montana for September elk hunting. Gonna take it for that as well. I’m sure it will be fine for that. It will be nice to not have to get wood.
I hunt late season in Idaho about 6500 ft and it gets cold there , that's why I contemplated it. My cousin brought a diesel heater last year and it burned us out of the tent. I'm just looking at other options when he can't bring his along.
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I noticed last season that a couple threads were coming loose on my door zipper of #2 tent.
Planning to set it up in couple weeks and work on that issue.
I have been thinking of cutting the treads and than putting a drop of super glue on the end.
Any ideas?
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my canvas tore in a couple spots by the zipper and I got strips of canvas for both sides and used this stuff and it worked great
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Ok
Got # 2 up today after a extensive honey do list. Sitting in it now in the back yard as I post this. Wishing we were in the mountains.
So got this little issue on one door zipper. Last year I had to wiz like a race horse in the wee hours and couldn’t get the zipper un stuck. We had the other door blocked with a table.
Vowed I would fix that problem before next camp.
So before I tackle this in am. Looking for any suggestions.
Here’s the photo.
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Another
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I'd do fabric scissors, really fine ones, and trim that back. I have a pair I use for carpet. Really fine work. Maybe hand stitch it back from the zipper.
Not a wall tent, but got my Seek Outside 8 man up, and it is huge. Burned in the XL stove, last winter. Can't wait for cooler weather.
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I'd do fabric scissors, really fine ones, and trim that back. I have a pair I use for carpet. Really fine work. Maybe hand stitch it back from the zipper.
Not a wall tent, but got my Seek Outside 8 man up, and it is huge. Burned in the XL stove, last winter. Can't wait for cooler weather.
Yeah my wife said cut back and use fray stop.
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I suggest no cut back and just lay flat all frays and super glue to the side of tent :twocents:
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I suggest no cut back and just lay flat all frays and super glue to the side of tent :twocents:
Well did a little of both. But on most layer flat and glued with Bishs Tear Mender.
Little more forgiving than the super glue.
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All tackled the mud drips from last year.
Had time to dry it out when I got home last year but no time to clean.
But got to it today.
Before and after.
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Used
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Tear mender works great...I had the seam from my zipper rip and I had some scraps from the door getting replaced. So I cut strips for each size and sandwiched the tear and glued them together and it held up last season just fine
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Let’s talk about snow loads.
It has been 20 years since I was in a tent in heavy snow fall. That tent had a external frame and I woke up with it 4 inches from my face. Spent a cold night in the truck cab.
Now that I have a couple wall tents I been thinking of preventive measures.
For those of you have seen a wall tent crushed. Where were the weak spots?
I suspect the rafters.
And what can be done? Extra upright pole inside to support ridge?
Flys help?
Planning for the big one.
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I haven't seen a crushed tent but I would think extra rafters would help tremendously and a tarp would let the snow slide off ..I have 4 rafters and use a tarp on my 15x17 and have had 3-4" of snow over night with no issues
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We have a 15x18 Davis Tent with the external pole kit and the internal ridge with 1 support. We've had it in massive snow a few times. Our m.o. has always been to tarp our tent because snow slides off of it so much easier. Most of the time if you get more than a couple inches on it, the snow begins to sluff off on it's own, especially if the tent is heated. We have had to bump it from inside the tent a few times to facilitate the sliding. Just bumping it with a broom or shovel or whatever long handled item you have around. Never have had any issues with snow load if you just take a little bit of time to make sure it doesn't accumulate.
Our tarp setup is a 20x30 heavy gray tarp. We put grommets in where the vertical supports for the tent come through at either end and we cut out the stove pipe hole and lined it with heat reflective tape. We are able to have a 12' long awning out in front of the tent that is effectively weather proof and that is where we do all our cooking when we have larger groups in camp. It is a great area to have for storage out of the weather as well.
I'm sure I have a picture on my hard drive at home, I'll take a look tonight.
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We have a 15x18 Davis Tent with the external pole kit and the internal ridge with 1 support. We've had it in massive snow a few times. Our m.o. has always been to tarp our tent because snow slides off of it so much easier. Most of the time if you get more than a couple inches on it, the snow begins to sluff off on it's own, especially if the tent is heated. We have had to bump it from inside the tent a few times to facilitate the sliding. Just bumping it with a broom or shovel or whatever long handled item you have around. Never have had any issues with snow load if you just take a little bit of time to make sure it doesn't accumulate.
Our tarp setup is a 20x30 heavy gray tarp. We put grommets in where the vertical supports for the tent come through at either end and we cut out the stove pipe hole and lined it with heat reflective tape. We are able to have a 12' long awning out in front of the tent that is effectively weather proof and that is where we do all our cooking when we have larger groups in camp. It is a great area to have for storage out of the weather as well.
I'm sure I have a picture on my hard drive at home, I'll take a look tonight.
I have made the tarps for both mine just like you did. When I am not using the stove it has a flap like the stove jack.
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We haven't gone as far as the flap because we're pretty much always using the stove. :chuckle: Really though if we're in the wall tent, we're using the stove not just for heating/drying but for cooking as well. We cook a fair amount of our easy meals, coffee, plain old hot water, etc.. on the wood stove. If the weather is inclement enough to warrant the stove/wall tent, we usually just sleep in the back of the truck, smaller tent, tarp shelter, etc...
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We haven't gone as far as the flap because we're pretty much always using the stove. :chuckle: Really though if we're in the wall tent, we're using the stove not just for heating/drying but for cooking as well. We cook a fair amount of our easy meals, coffee, plain old hot water, etc.. on the wood stove. If the weather is inclement enough to warrant the stove/wall tent, we usually just sleep in the back of the truck, smaller tent, tarp shelter, etc...
Oh yeah I like the stove.
But I don't cook in the wall tents.
And during muzzy in this state , fire restrictions keep us from setting up the stoves. We always have them with us incase the weather changes.
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You also get to spend a month or more in camp, we haven't gotten to do that in a long time! The wall tent that time of year makes a lot more sense for you. Just a little jealous.
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You also get to spend a month or more in camp, we haven't gotten to do that in a long time! The wall tent that time of year makes a lot more sense for you. Just a little jealous.
True
I enjoy a lot of time in the wall tents. I pay for it through the year often working 10 day stretches. Three hours sleep in 24 hrs this week. And the phone rings most nights at home. I am salary so I log the extra hours as comp time and take them during the slow season which happens to be hunting season.
Best sleep I get is in a wall tent with no cell service.
Two more years and I am going to double up on wall tent time.
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Nobody has crushed tent snow story? :dunno:
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Nobody has crushed tent snow story? :dunno:
Run a tarp tight and it won’t ever happen!
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You can see in this pic the difference between the heated and non heated portions of the tarp. We woke up about 6” on snow that morning. The nonheated part of the tarp was sagging with the snow. The heat part just melted or slid off.
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Not sure if this is a wall tent :dunno: tip/trick or just a cheap skate HACK.
6" flue from 55 Gallon wood stove in tent.
I plan on putting a chimney brush in the top most section of pipe.
IMO it should act as a pretty good spark arrestor without inhibiting flow...
thoughts???
AND if the stack needs cleaning.... well I'm one step closer than most :)
Jeff
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Not sure if this is a wall tent :dunno: tip/trick or just a cheap skate HACK.
6" flue from 55 Gallon wood stove in tent.
I plan on putting a chimney brush in the top most section of pipe.
IMO it should act as a pretty good spark arrestor without inhibiting flow...
thoughts???
AND if the stack needs cleaning.... well I'm one step closer than most :)
Jeff
Ummm
I have no idea.
But I would bet that it plugs up depending on wood you are burning.
In Eastern wa it’s hard to get away without burning pine.
I have not found a arrestor that doesn't t plug up. So I run with a elbow on top of my stack.
I minimize sparks not only for fire safety but tent safety, by not using kindling, cedar, or paper in any of the tent stoves. We use fire starter and hand propane torches with the driest wood we can find.
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Not sure if this is a wall tent :dunno: tip/trick or just a cheap skate HACK.
6" flue from 55 Gallon wood stove in tent.
I plan on putting a chimney brush in the top most section of pipe.
IMO it should act as a pretty good spark arrestor without inhibiting flow...
thoughts???
AND if the stack needs cleaning.... well I'm one step closer than most :)
Jeff
I think this will work too well, depending on what your burning, you'll more than likely plug that sucker up. You'll most likely see some draft issues as well.
If you need one, just hose clamp a piece of SS 1/4" mesh on the end of the pipe. Simple and effective, won't clog up very easily, and easy to clean when/if it does.
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Like others have said I think that will clog for sure. Of course my spark arrestor plugs also. I just think that one will clog faster and also create lack of draft issues as mentioned above.
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Thank you all for the great comments!!
I am going to do a test burn this weekend to check the up-draft and clogging... as best I can
Its not going to be -3 in WA this weekend... and I do not have the hunt area logs to burn :)
I am very worried about sparks getting out and landing on the tent. My tent <See restoration post here https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,240936.0.html (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,240936.0.html)> is old enough, I don't need any more holes in it.
I know that "no sparks" means a tight mesh/low draft....
I feel like there is a trade off, or happy medium that will come out of this
Jeff
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Hey Ghost Hunter where did you buy that cleaner?
Thanks
Elksnout
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Bought it From Reliable Tent and Tipi. But ebay has it.
Search on line.
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Bought it From Reliable Tent and Tipi. But ebay has it.
Search on line.
Thanks!
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What are you guys using for floors? I need to replace the tarp I’ve been using, and was wondering if there is something quieter and lays flatter.
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What are you guys using for floors? I need to replace the tarp I’ve been using, and was wondering if there is something quieter and lays flatter.
My #1 tent came with a poly floor that snaps in.
My #2 tent came with a heavy poly floor.
I put a regular tarp under both keeps them cleaner.
I have a coupe four foot runner mats I throw down in the traffic area.
In the cook shack we use straw to keep the dust down.
Under the wood stove we use one of those oil drip pans for you garage. We write on the drip pan every where the tent was set up and the year.
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I throw a tarp down then I have a big heavy canvas tarp for the floor
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Tarp and then a big leftover piece of carpet from when we recarpeted the house. So nice to step into that in the middle of the night instead of a cold trap or canvas.
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Tarp and then a big leftover piece of carpet from when we recarpeted the house. So nice to step into that in the middle of the night instead of a cold trap or canvas.
Pretty much what I’m doing now, must be the way to go.
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I use bath and shower mats I front of my tent door and along next to my cot.
Sure make those cold mornings a lot mor pleasant.
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:yeah: I like to use small carpets at the cots.
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My tent/floor isn't cold when we wake up...we run a diesel heater all night and it stays atleast 60+ in the tent..nice and toasty
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Thank you all for the great comments!!
I am going to do a test burn this weekend to check the up-draft and clogging... as best I can
Its not going to be -3 in WA this weekend... and I do not have the hunt area logs to burn :)
I am very worried about sparks getting out and landing on the tent. My tent <See restoration post here https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,240936.0.html (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,240936.0.html)> is old enough, I don't need any more holes in it.
I know that "no sparks" means a tight mesh/low draft....
I feel like there is a trade off, or happy medium that will come out of this
Jeff
FAIL :bash: :bdid:
Ran the stove this weekend for only a couple of hours. Dry Cedar to test the spark arrestor function of the cleaner. (That part worked AMAZING)...
But it also caught EVERYTHING... so I can see how it would clog for sure after many hours of sustained use.
PLAN B: wire mesh insert like others have used
Jeff
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Thanks for the update
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These lux pro lights are pretty amazing. They are small and compact, they put out a ton of light and they hang with magnets to the tent frame. I will be purchasing 6 more for camp life. :tup: :tup:
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These lux pro lights are pretty amazing. They are small and compact, they put out a ton of light and they hang with magnets to the tent frame. I will be purchasing 6 more for camp life. :tup: :tup:
Those are real nice.
I am a sucker for lights. My wife says when I am gone she will have to have sale of just lights. I love lights :tup:
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We are using these hung from carabiners on Ridge.
Three packs from Costco. Very bright.
Also have red setting and blink too.
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We are using these hung from carabiners on Ridge.
Three packs from Costco. Very bright.
Also have red setting and blink too.
What kind of battery do those take? I went and bought three more packs of the lux pro tonight while they are still on sale. Now I have 10 lights. I am thinking of getting one of their 1000 lumen lanterns too. If I had one or two of the lanterns I could leave all the propane lanters at home. I also like lights.......I love the idea of not worrying about the glass globes of the lanterns......I have broken my fair share.
https://www.amazon.com/LUX-PRO-LP371-Variable-Broadbeam-Lantern/dp/B06XKBDX8C/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=lux+pro+1000+lumen+lantern&qid=1563940678&s=gateway&sr=8-3
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We are using these hung from carabiners on Ridge.
Three packs from Costco. Very bright.
Also have red setting and blink too.
What kind of battery do those take? I went and bought three more packs of the lux pro tonight while they are still on sale. Now I have 10 lights. I am thinking of getting one of their 1000 lumen lanterns too. If I had one or two of the lanterns I could leave all the propane lanters at home. I also like lights.......I love the idea of not worrying about the glass globes of the lanterns......I have broken my fair share.
https://www.amazon.com/LUX-PRO-LP371-Variable-Broadbeam-Lantern/dp/B06XKBDX8C/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=lux+pro+1000+lumen+lantern&qid=1563940678&s=gateway&sr=8-3
AA
And they come with them .Three per lantern.
Iran them for two weeks at night.
Left one on for three weeks outside tent for nature calls on red.
Costco,Burlington had them 20.00 at first than had them 8.00 off two weeks ago.
Bought three more packs.
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I’m starting to read the whole thread over, again. Does anybody have a list that they can post up that people could print off if we were so inclined?
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I’m starting to read the whole thread over, again. Does anybody have a list that they can post up that people could print off if we were so inclined?
List of what?
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I’m starting to read the whole thread over, again. Does anybody have a list that they can post up that people could print off if we were so inclined?
List of what?
Everything you bring with you for the tent.
A lot of my gear needs to be taken from either my camper or my backpacking tote. I’d hate to forget my coffee pot, or Johnny Pee.
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I’m starting to read the whole thread over, again. Does anybody have a list that they can post up that people could print off if we were so inclined?
List of what?
Everything you bring with you for the tent.
A lot of my gear needs to be taken from either my camper or my backpacking tote. I’d hate to forget my coffee pot, or Johnny Pee.
Wood stove
Firestarter
Tent
Fly
Tent stakes
Frame
Tent floor
Table
Cot
Chair
Cook kit
Cook stove
Battery lanterns
Stakes
Rope
Flashlight
Potty
Ladder
Water
Shovel
Rake
Bale of seedless straw
Ground tarp
Door mat
Propane torch
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Thanks, that’s a great start.
Has anyone tried one of those sun screens you put in a car window to deflect the heat on the tent wall? I typically use a piece of corigated roofing tin, but I’m trying to lighten and uncluttered what I take.
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Thanks, that’s a great start.
Has anyone tried one of those sun screens you put in a car window to deflect the heat on the tent wall? I typically use a piece of corigated roofing tin, but I’m trying to lighten and uncluttered what I take.
I guess you are talking behind the wood stove?
I use to worry about it but now that I have logged 100 plus days in the tent. I don't put any thing behind the store.
Some folks have used welding blankets and survival blankets.
Under the stove I use a oil drip tray like you use in your garage. I record every where the tent is set up each year on the drip tray. I also marked where the tray goes on the floor to cut down on set up time.
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Under the stove I use a oil drip tray like you use in your garage. I record every where the tent is set up each year on the drip tray. I also marked where the tray goes on the floor to cut down on set up time.
Help my stupid out here.. what is the purpose of setting them in there, to keep off the floor? Aren't they usually plastic, no concern there?
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Under the stove I use a oil drip tray like you use in your garage. I record every where the tent is set up each year on the drip tray. I also marked where the tray goes on the floor to cut down on set up time.
Help my stupid out here.. what is the purpose of setting them in there, to keep off the floor? Aren't they usually plastic, no concern there?
They are made of metal, not plastic..
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Under the stove I use a oil drip tray like you use in your garage. I record every where the tent is set up each year on the drip tray. I also marked where the tray goes on the floor to cut down on set up time.
Help my stupid out here.. what is the purpose of setting them in there, to keep off the floor? Aren't they usually plastic, no concern there?
They are made of metal, not plastic..
Yep metal
I crowd the stove to the back edge so when you open the door any hot stuff falls on the metal.
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Thanks, that’s a great start.
Has anyone tried one of those sun screens you put in a car window to deflect the heat on the tent wall? I typically use a piece of corigated roofing tin, but I’m trying to lighten and uncluttered what I take.
I guess you are talking behind the wood stove?
I use to worry about it but now that I have logged 100 plus days in the tent. I don't put any thing behind the store.
Some folks have used welding blankets and survival blankets.
Under the stove I use a oil drip tray like you use in your garage. I record every where the tent is set up each year on the drip tray. I also marked where the tray goes on the floor to cut down on set up time.
I’m thinking to deflect the back into the tent. Right now we use a street sign in the back and one under the stove.
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I would leave that at home and get a wood stove fan.
My two tents are 10x12s and my stove heat them real well.
Our cook shack is 10x 20 and the Three dog keeps it 60.
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These lux pro lights are pretty amazing. They are small and compact, they put out a ton of light and they hang with magnets to the tent frame. I will be purchasing 6 more for camp life. :tup: :tup:
I picked up a pair of the lights over the weekend.
They are a lot smaller then I expected, and not as bright as I expected.
But, then I realized, inside a tent at night, they would be perfect. The last thing I want is a gazillion lumin light at night in my tent, LOL
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Under the stove I use a oil drip tray like you use in your garage. I record every where the tent is set up each year on the drip tray. I also marked where the tray goes on the floor to cut down on set up time.
Help my stupid out here.. what is the purpose of setting them in there, to keep off the floor? Aren't they usually plastic, no concern there?
They are made of metal, not plastic..
Thanks. I've only seen plastic ones.
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These lux pro lights are pretty amazing. They are small and compact, they put out a ton of light and they hang with magnets to the tent frame. I will be purchasing 6 more for camp life. :tup: :tup:
I picked up a pair of the lights over the weekend.
They are a lot smaller then I expected, and not as bright as I expected.
But, then I realized, inside a tent at night, they would be perfect. The last thing I want is a gazillion lumin light at night in my tent, LOL
4 of them in my 15x18 was very bright. I also bought two of the 1000 lumen lux pro lanterns....now those are stupid bright!!!!! :yike: :yike: I love how small and compact the triangle lights are for packing. I also love how they stow to protect the lenses. I own 10 of them now for my tent / camp.
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I also picked up some fantastic small form factor flashlights from Coast that put out 345 lumens and only 3 inches long, running two AAs.
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Ooooh
1 month 3 days away from 20 days in the wall tent. Can’t wait. Time to get organized.
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I have to wait till mid November :bash:
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Since the wall tent tips and tricks thread is 34 pages long, it would very much seem that the "trick" is to NOT have one :yike:
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I have to wait till mid November :bash:
Me too normally but we are headed to montana next weekend and taking the wall tent. Looking forward to getting a little extra use this year.
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Since the wall tent tips and tricks thread is 34 pages long, it would very much seem that the "trick" is to NOT have one :yike:
Lots of great ideas and advice for the guy just coming along into wall tents.
Most this stuff we had to learn the hard way.
I don’t think wall tents are that hard andI am 68this year. But there was a learning curve.
And good info like “ When your stove pipe came loose in the wind, where did it separate?”
Well everyone who had that happen said”at the stove”
Good I tell right there. Secure the pipe to the stove with screws or wire.
Priceless info for the beginner. :tup:
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:yeah:
I don’t use a wall tent, I use a Cabelas Wind River 9’ x 12’ dome tent. But most of these tips and tricks can be used by any one who likes to tent.
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Since the wall tent tips and tricks thread is 34 pages long, it would very much seem that the "trick" is to NOT have one :yike:
Lots of great ideas and advice for the guy just coming along into wall tents.
Most this stuff we had to learn the hard way.
I don’t think wall tents are that hard andI am 68this year. But there was a learning curve.
And good info like “ When your stove pipe came loose in the wind, where did it separate?”
Well everyone who had that happen said”at the stove”
Good I tell right there. Secure the pipe to the stove with screws or wire.
Priceless info for the beginner. :tup:
I was poking some fun
There really is nothing like wall tent camping in later seasons :tup:
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Has anyone used straw for a floor inside the tent? Obviously with carpet by the cot and something under the stove.
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Has anyone used straw for a floor inside the tent? Obviously with carpet by the cot and something under the stove.
No, it would make a mess inside my tent :dunno:
Sorry, could not refuse. :chuckle:
Would it attract or hide mice?
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Has anyone used straw for a floor inside the tent? Obviously with carpet by the cot and something under the stove.
No, it would make a mess inside my tent :dunno:
Sorry, could not refuse. :chuckle:
Would it attract or hide mice?
I don’t use straw inside the tent. However I do sprinkle some lightly on the ground under the ground cloth. Makes clean up lots nicer. I do spread straw around the outside of the tent so in heavy rain dirt doesn’t splat up on the canvas.
We do have a Costco canopy cook shack and we do use the straw on the floor to keep dust down.
Last year I tried something new. I put 24 hour mouse traps around the cook shack and 50 feet away I used cotton balls around two tents with peppermint oil on them.
In. 14 days I never had a mouse around the tents but caught several around the cook shack.
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Two years ago was the first time I added mouse traps to my camp box. I can't tell you how many we've caught now. It's quite satisfying to be lying on your cot listening to fire crackle in the stove as you drift off to sleep and hear a loud SNAP! from outside the tent. I sleep quite soundly now.
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I got a 16x20 wall tent for christmas last year, and I am psyched to use it this year. This thread has been great for information! I'm gonna pick up some of those Luxe lights before the season.
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We’ve never had an issue with mice in our tent. We camp in dispursed campsites, not a camp ground, maybe that’s the difference?
Also considering going floor less this year with the exception of a rug next to my cot. Trying to down size from a 20’ horse trailer, dad brings a lot of extra stuff, to just a Ford Ranger with canopy and small open utility trailer.
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We’ve never had an issue with mice in our tent. We camp in dispursed campsites, not a camp ground, maybe that’s the difference?
Also considering going floor less this year with the exception of a rug next to my cot. Trying to down size from a 20’ horse trailer, dad brings a lot of extra stuff, to just a Ford Ranger with canopy and small open utility trailer.
We camp in u developed areas too. Just depends on the area I think. Down at Bethel never see a mouse. Up at Twisp all over the place.
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We don’t use straw in the tent but late season hunts when it is really cold we will use a bail spread out around the perimeter of the tent and it really helps seal up any drafts around the bottom. It makes a noticeable difference.
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We don’t use straw in the tent but late season hunts when it is really cold we will use a bail spread out around the perimeter of the tent and it really helps seal up any drafts around the bottom. It makes a noticeable difference.
:yeah: :tup:
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Lux pro lights worked pretty well in the tent last week.
The Q stove did not perform so well. :(
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Any idea how much coal It takes to keep a 12x14 warm all night long? I have access to a unlimited amount, but don’t want to bring too much.
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Any idea how much coal It takes to keep a 12x14 warm all night long? I have access to a unlimited amount, but don’t want to bring too much.
Never used it in a tent ,wish I could find a supply of coal I would love to use it. I did use coal years ago in a kitchen wood stove . Was in a cabin my first wife and I rented before were married. It did not take a very much to turn the stove top red out. Couple softball size chunks.
I worried about it because the stove was about 16 inches from the Kitchen sink. Got up one night to get a glass of water at the sink. Back than I slept in the buff. Backed up to far one night and end up with my rear in the sink soothing the burn I got from that red hot coal fired stove. :sry: :bdid:
Two large gunny sacks of coal should do it for 10 days or more if you mix a little wood in.
Coal can be left out in the weather too. :twocents:
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i have never used coal either, curious to why? does it burn for a long time,hot etc? we keep trying to figure out how to keep the fire going in the night i hate the 3am shiver and crawl to the stove to re light a fire. does the coal burn clean or wil it "soot" the chiminey real bad
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i have never used coal either, curious to why? does it burn for a long time,hot etc? we keep trying to figure out how to keep the fire going in the night i hate the 3am shiver and crawl to the stove to re light a fire. does the coal burn clean or wil it "soot" the chiminey real bad
I've read several times to throw coal in at night to keep the fire going all night long. I'm hoping it at least keeps enough coals going that I can throw a chunk of wood on at that 2am pee break. Also when I leave the tent in the morning I'm hoping it'll keep the chill away until I return at noon.
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Soo as my wall tent time is only 5 days away. I got to thinking about my wood stoves. Has any one ever burned pellets in the wood stove like wood?
Not with a hopper just take a scoop or two and throw in at night with the coals.
I usually get a good bed of coals going before bed and than throw in a couple pressed logs with some wood and cut the air down.
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My wood recipe, use doug fir to get a good bed of coals going. Stuff full of oak, and damper down. Should burn 6-7 hrs no problem. The trick is getting your hands on the oak. Not as easy to find as doug fir.
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Soo as my wall tent time is only 5 days away. I got to thinking about my wood stoves. Has any one ever burned pellets in the wood stove like wood?
Not with a hopper just take a scoop or two and throw in at night with the coals.
I usually get a good bed of coals going before bed and than throw in a couple pressed logs with some wood and cut the air down.
I tried pellets like described a couple of years ago. I didn’t see an improvement, so won’t be doing that again. I’ve had decent luck with Crunchy receipt, except I’ve used locust instead of oak.
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If you know anyone that does hardwood floors they often just take scraps to the dump to get rid of it. I got a bunch from my neighbor one year, cut it down to length if it was necessary and took it to camp in a couple of Rubbermaid containers. That combined with some of those compressed sawdust logs and we had fire all night no problem. not quite as nostalgic as a pile of wood stacked outside but I didn't have to mess with a chainsaw and gas.
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The biggest thing that helped for me is to get that thing as full as possible, I have a Davis stove and it's pretty long, so I had to learn to cut my wood a little longer to prevent having wasted space, also I split some of my wood down into real small pieces to stuff in as many gaps as possible after putting a few large pieces on. Then get the air flow just right, too much and your sweating for a few hours then freezing, too little it just goes out and you freeze. Also for their guys burning pressed logs, have you ever had issues with them? On my first trip with the wall tent I figured I would just use those and leave the chainsaw at home, well they burned really slow and cold! After freezing for a couple nights I used the axe to cut some small wood and spent the rest of the nights in my boxers it was so warm. I'm not sure if I had bad quality pressed logs or if maybe it was the altitude, I was at 10000ft in Colorado.
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The biggest thing that helped for me is to get that thing as full as possible, I have a Davis stove and it's pretty long, so I had to learn to cut my wood a little longer to prevent having wasted space, also I split some of my wood down into real small pieces to stuff in as many gaps as possible after putting a few large pieces on. Then get the air flow just right, too much and your sweating for a few hours then freezing, too little it just goes out and you freeze. Also for their guys burning pressed logs, have you ever had issues with them? On my first trip with the wall tent I figured I would just use those and leave the chainsaw at home, well they burned really slow and cold! After freezing for a couple nights I used the axe to cut some small wood and spent the rest of the nights in my boxers it was so warm. I'm not sure if I had bad quality pressed logs or if maybe it was the altitude, I was at 10000ft in Colorado.
They do burn slower and often stay in their form until you move them around. I like them because they keep hot coals going all night. I stir them up about o300 on my trip by the stove and throw some wood on.
I think coal would be the best all night option, but hard to find.
Just bought 10 bundles of 6 for camp. Two per night for two stoves goes about 15 days.
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It would be interesting to try coal, I might have to do a test burn with some. If I get a chance I'll report back.
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I have seen a few tents with stove jacks out the sides or ends. Not a real fan of that design.
Use to have stove jack out end of our cook shack. Was always a pain to support it.
What’s your preference?
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Mine goes out the side and I use this tripod stand to hold mine up.
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I have seen a few tents with stove jacks out the sides or ends. Not a real fan of that design.
Use to have stove jack out end of our cook shack. Was always a pain to support it.
What’s your preference?
Out the side with a 90 and an aluminum pike pole for support
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I have seen a few tents with stove jacks out the sides or ends. Not a real fan of that design.
Use to have stove jack out end of our cook shack. Was always a pain to support it.
Whats your preference?
Out the side wall. Pipe supported by a bolt together framework.
Elksnout
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Out the side. No support but use a couple of sheet metal screws at each joint.
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Hunting camp 2019 is set up.
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I have seen a few tents with stove jacks out the sides or ends. Not a real fan of that design.
Use to have stove jack out end of our cook shack. Was always a pain to support it.
What’s your preference?
Another vote for out the side. No worries about rain/snow coming in and also easier to cover the tent with a tarp
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I bought a couple sets of the foam puzzle board squares for flooring. I run them from the door to in-between the cots. keeps things very well insulated for walking in socks.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Greatmats-25-Pack-24-in-x-24-in-Black-Loose-Lay-Foam-Tile-Multipurpose-Flooring/1000159227
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I have seen a few tents with stove jacks out the sides or ends. Not a real fan of that design.
Use to have stove jack out end of our cook shack. Was always a pain to support it.
What’s your preference?
I definitely like straight up through the roof the best, for a couple reasons. First, you are less likely to have an accident where someone or something bumps the stack and it falls apart. But the big reason for me is creosote. It's not a big deal for a week to 2 week camp, but if you are doing a long term camp out in cold weather you do a lot of turning the damper down to slow the burn and creosote builds up on the inside of your pipe. With a straight up pipe you can tap the pipe with a branch or something similar and the creosote will break loose and fall down into the stove. Easy cleaning. With a pipe out the side or back wall you will have a couple 90s and creosote will build up and there is no way to get it out without taking the pipe apart which creates a big mess.
I learned this the hard way when I spent a couple winters on Afognak Is. near Kodiak. My first wall tent had the stack go out the back wall And about once a month I'd have to take the pipe apart and clean it.
One other thing I learned was the placement of the stove in the tent. When the stove was in the back of the tent (no back door), if it got too warm in the tent it wasn't easy to cool things down and packing wood through the whole tent was messy. Inevitably bark would fall off and create something else to clean up. With the stove near the front of the tent opening the flap lets heat out faster. And you don't have to bring wood through the whole tent. Since that first tent, I've always had my wall tents arranged with the stove in the front of the tent and the pipe goes straight through the roof.
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I have seen a few tents with stove jacks out the sides or ends. Not a real fan of that design.
Use to have stove jack out end of our cook shack. Was always a pain to support it.
What’s your preference?
Another vote for out the side. No worries about rain/snow coming in and also easier to cover the tent with a tarp
That was my worry on my first wall tent. But since then I always have a stove jack installed in my fly to match up with the jack hole in the roof of my tent. Have never had a problem with leaks because of it. And I have used it in some very rainy places.
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I have seen a few tents with stove jacks out the sides or ends. Not a real fan of that design.
Use to have stove jack out end of our cook shack. Was always a pain to support it.
What’s your preference?
Another vote for out the side. No worries about rain/snow coming in and also easier to cover the tent with a tarp
That was my worry on my first wall tent. But since then I always have a stove jack installed in my fly to match up with the jack hole in the roof of my tent. Have never had a problem with leaks because of it. And I have used it in some very rainy places.
Only wall tent I have owned has the side jack so my experience is limited :chuckle:
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We have three tents, 2 with the stove jack on top in front of tent and 1 with stove jack out side. Nice thing about out side is that their are zero holes in tent after 25 years and we don't ever use a tarp or cover. The one downside I find is that they don't seem to draft quite as well as the straight up ones. They all burn hotter then hell but when turned down you get more smoke in tent with the side jack. Also no water gets in on the side jack. one of our tents has a few small holes from the top jack and it is only about 10 years old.
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I bought the Lux Pro lights to give them a try, and we loved them. I have 6 for my 16X20 and they were plenty bright. The battery life only lasted about three days for us, but that was with a fair amount of use on their brightest setting. I wasnt too worried about that, each only takes 4 AAA batteries, and not having the noise from the loud propane lantern was terrific.
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These?
https://www.amazon.com/LUX-PRO-LP364-Lumen-Broadbeam-Light/dp/B071WN3K12/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&hvadid=77721781715800&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=lux+pro+light&qid=1571150514&sr=8-10
how do you mount them? sit them on the floor?
quiet would be nice. although the heat from the propane lamps is nice...
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When ordering our very valued wall tent from site sponsor BRAVO Manufacturing had the stack placement conversation. Hands down straight up to make sure you always have draft. Way to many negative issues with side wall termination and smoking out the tent. With the snow slide installed we have had no water leakage around opening.
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These?
https://www.amazon.com/LUX-PRO-LP364-Lumen-Broadbeam-Light/dp/B071WN3K12/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&hvadid=77721781715800&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=lux+pro+light&qid=1571150514&sr=8-10
how do you mount them? sit them on the floor?
quiet would be nice. although the heat from the propane lamps is nice...
The are magnetic. They stick to your tent poles. We used ours for the elk season this year. We used them in the morning and for an hour or so at night before bed. We used them for 8 days with the same batteries. They work really well. My guess is we have 20+- hours on original batteries.
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These?
https://www.amazon.com/LUX-PRO-LP364-Lumen-Broadbeam-Light/dp/B071WN3K12/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&hvadid=77721781715800&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=lux+pro+light&qid=1571150514&sr=8-10
how do you mount them? sit them on the floor?
quiet would be nice. although the heat from the propane lamps is nice...
The are magnetic. They stick to your tent poles. We used ours for the elk season this year. We used them in the morning and for an hour or so at night before bed. We used them for 8 days with the same batteries. They work really well. My guess is we have 20+- hours on original batteries.
They also have a hook that folds out so you can hang them as well. You can see it on the lft side in that pic.
I will just set mine on my cot side table.
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nice. well priced too
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A lot of lite, in a small package.
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Well just back from 20 days in the tent and ran my mouse experiment again this year. (2nd Year) I put 24 hour mouse traps around our cook shack and caught 25 mice. And there still was some mice running around.
Both Canvas tents 100 ft away. Had cotton balls around them with pure Peppermint oil. No mice not one in either tent.
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Did you have mousetraps in tent that had peppermint oil?
How many cotton balls to secure the perimeter? Inside or outside the tent?
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:yeah:
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We got 28 in our cooking area, peanut butter roll can, and .410 shooting.🤣
One I shoot crawled off and when we took down the tent he was under the wall seam being eaten by his buddy.🤮
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Did you have mousetraps in tent that had peppermint oil?
How many cotton balls to secure the perimeter? Inside or outside the tent?
No traps inside.
Three balls per side.
Hint..when the bottle is empty seal it in a bag of cotton walls they will pick up the Oder.
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What do ya'll use as tent stakes? Do you have different stakes for soft ground and hard ground?
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I use barbed wire fence t-posts, I cut them to 18" and drill a hole in the top to hook my cargo ratchet straps to.
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Both my tents came with quality stakes.
I bought my 2nd tent from a buddy and he had 24 real heavy stakes 16 inches long ,double tops and 3/4 rebar like.
I only take two or three with me because they are so heavy.
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I know I will forget by next year but your peppermint cotton ball trick sounds neat as can be.
Try it on your steelhead egg clusters too.
If all else fails and your mattress goes flat you can sleep on the cotton balls.
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For several years I had rodent problems with them getting into my vehicles and destroying the wiring. Not cheap to replace wiring harnesses. I did some research and found out about peppermint oil. The last three years since using peppermint oil we have not suffered any rodent damage during the winters.
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I know I will forget by next year but your peppermint cotton ball trick sounds neat as can be.
Try it on your steelhead egg clusters too.
If all else fails and your mattress goes flat you can sleep on the cotton balls.
Not so much on the cotton balls / peppermint oil. Had a good run of mouse activity this year. They even crapped on the cotton balls and were making a nest in the woodpile with them.
Put out the traps and broke their little necks....old school always works.
Elksnout
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What’s everyone do setting up in snow. 12 inches or more.
Do you scape down to bare ground or stomp it down.?
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i always try to shovel most of it out
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i always try to shovel most of it out
:yeah:
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Shovel it down the best I can.
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What do ya'll use as tent stakes? Do you have different stakes for soft ground and hard ground?
We made our own stakes, I bought the longest spikes (big nails) that I could find and we welded large washers 1.5 inches from the nail head, that way when you drive the stake in tight to the ground and it freezes or ices up you can still get a hold of the nail head real easy with a hammer to pull it out. These have worked great for us, we made them nearly 20 years ago after getting frustrated with the ones we bought that didn't work well or bent all the time. I have several 5 gallon buckets of them, we use them every year.
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What’s everyone do setting up in snow. 12 inches or more.
Do you scape down to bare ground or stomp it down.?
Shovel it or you will have slush when the tent starts warming up.
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we camp at the same spot every year, im thinking about taking a floor with me, cutting 4 logs as close to the same size as i can and then laying them like floor joists. then screwing plywood to the logs. if i make this the correct size, my tent should drape right over the side of the elevated floor and i dont have to worry about any rain or snow coming under the wall onto my current "tarp floor". the plywood would be easy to load/trasnport. put them on the bed of the truck or trailer and stack my other gear on top. anyone ever try a wooden floor?
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wouldn't it be a yurt then?
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we camp at the same spot every year, im thinking about taking a floor with me, cutting 4 logs as close to the same size as i can and then laying them like floor joists. then screwing plywood to the logs. if i make this the correct size, my tent should drape right over the side of the elevated floor and i dont have to worry about any rain or snow coming under the wall onto my current "tarp floor". the plywood would be easy to load/trasnport. put them on the bed of the truck or trailer and stack my other gear on top. anyone ever try a wooden floor?
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What’s everyone do setting up in snow. 12 inches or more.
Do you scape down to bare ground or stomp it down.?
We carry a Stihl leaf blower. Used to blow out debris from tent site, blow small to medium accumulations of snow and used to clean out tent floor on a daily basis.
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Lux pro lights worked pretty well in the tent last week.
The Q stove did not perform so well. :(
Curious how the Q stove did not work out so well?
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Lux pro lights worked pretty well in the tent last week.
The Q stove did not perform so well. :(
Curious how the Q stove did not work out so well?
I think that it could if I worked with it more.
My tent has a side wall stove jack. To make the Q work I got a 45 degree bend for it but the stove is tall and I had to keep it really close to the wall to get it out the wall.
A roof jack would have been better for getting it out into the room better. I think it would have heated better and drafted better.
I have since used it on my back patio with the vertical pipe and it works much better.
I bought a house, 110volt, pellet stove for late archery. It takes just as long to heat up the tent but keeps it at a constant temperature. It has a thermostat. It also has an exhaust blower fan so there is no draft-smoke issue. You do need a generator going but my buddy runs one for his trailer 24/7 so no issue there.
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Interesting. It looks real good in the tent! The 110v stove is a good idea. Set up our tent a few weeks ago at the place here to do some R&D. Got some Idaho Energy logs from Coastal. Put three in the stove and got a strong 7-8hr burn keeping tent cozy at about 30-35 degs out.
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Thanks.
When I originally got the tent I was told side jack was the way to go to prevent water leaks. I agree but it does present draft issues. Maybe I would have draft issues with a roof jack when the stove is dampened down at night.
I have a cylinder stove and getting a consistent burn temp through the night has always been an issue. I have my wife and daughters tag along with me and they expect a constant temperature and don’t like the smoke that I get with some nights.
I tried to solve the problem with a pellet attachment to the cylinder stove. It was good but couldn’t keep the tent warm enough when outside temps were below ten degrees, 15x15 tent.
When I saw the Q stove I was told that it would do the 15x15 tent no problem and I think it might if I wasn’t battling the side jack draft issue and the need for it to be so close to the wall to exit the side jack.
The 110v pellet did an amazing job with the thermostat, controlled burn and exhaust blower fan. It kept the tent 71 degrees at the stove and comfortable in all corners constantly. It burned one bag of north Idaho pellets every 10-12 hours at night, 15 degrees outside, and 1/2-3/4 of a bag during the 12 hour day when it was 28-34 degrees outside.
I still brought the cylinder stove with me and will continue to do so. If something goes wrong with the pellet stove you can’t cram wood in it.
Also the 110v pellet stove does weigh about 200 pounds. I have it strapped to a hand truck.
Pellets are clean burning and you find them at most locations. At some point we always end up in town halfway through the hunt for one thing or another so I don’t need to take 10 days worth of pellets initially to camp.
It didn’t take any time to heat up the tent from 36 degrees to 71 degrees so you could easily just use it at night and only go through ten bags. With the thermostat option I can program it to come on at 5 pm and run until 5am when we leave in the mornings.
Stove cost $1,100 and exhaust pipes were about $200 more. Pellets are cheap, clean and take up less space than the firewood needed for the same burn time.
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A couple woodstove/wall tent tips for cold weather camping;
1.) Depending on how cold it is or is expected to be, you can set up a wall tent on top of packed/cold snow if you use astroturf for a floor. If it is below freezing and won't come above, the rubber backing on the astroturf and the turf itself insulates enough we have set up on top of 15" of packed snow and never got wet inside the tent for 6 days.
2.) You can buy 1 or 2 of the silver sun reflectors for the front window of your car and use them along the wall of the tent behind the stove. It is amazing how much heat they reflect back into the tent that you normally lose out the sidewall behind the stove. They take up little space and weigh nothing but are increasingly helpful as the temperature gets colder and colder.
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Interesting run with pellet stove Rainier10. We haven't stayed in our tent for any long periods of teens or lower. Gonna keep our tent up through winter here in the gorge. Due some R&D when we get low temps? With global warming might not get it.LOL. I like the pellet stove idea but weight and pellets definitely a turn off for me. There seems to be trend for small compact pellet stoves for small home applications these days. I'm sure there will be one that will fulfill the wall tent class soon enough. Another thought would be a high efficiency propane type heater. Maybe to supplement the woodstove? Big Buddies come to mind.
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I thought about propane but have heard they create a bunch of moisture. All of the rest of our camp is in trailers using propane furnaces. They go through $120-$150 in propane over the course of the 9 days. My 10 bags of pellets at $4 a bag had them thinking of how to retrofit a pellet stove into their trailers. :chuckle:
Side note when I was away at deer camp the furnace at my office went out. Got back in town and setup the stove in my office while I was waiting on a new furnace install. My office staff was hoping I would keep the stove. Not sure what the fire department would have thought about that.
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Loos like a solid install! I like it! :tup: That is a very good point on PROPANE cost versus pellets.
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Interesting idea to use reflectors!
I can attest to propane burning moist... i tried it on a 10 day trip and my normally dry big horn became a moisture dome. Literally raining inside at times! When the outside humidity is low propane works well, but it it is raining outside, it will be raining inside too!
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You can buy a lot of propane for 1,300 in stove plus pellets. At 80 a trip difference, it takes more then a decade to break even.
I used a little buddy and kept my tent HOT with less than 1 tank burned in 3 nights. Costs about 15 dollars to fill but I don’t run it all day. If I’m not there, I don’t need the heat.
Not that any of us do this to make money!
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That’s true. I looked at their $24,000 trailers and asked why are you concerned About a $120 propane bill?they paid twice that in fuel to tow it there, three times that to insure it for the year, tabs for it were expensive and storage costs. Propane really isn’t that big of a deal for them in my mind.
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You can buy a lot of propane for 1,300 in stove plus pellets. At 80 a trip difference, it takes more then a decade to break even.
I used a little buddy and kept my tent HOT with less than 1 tank burned in 3 nights. Costs about 15 dollars to fill but I don’t run it all day. If I’m not there, I don’t need the heat.
Not that any of us do this to make money!
I also use a Little Buddy, they work great and don’t break the bank on propane. They do tend to cause some serious condensation though. On my tent the condensation is on the rainfly so I don’t worry about brushing up against it and getting all wet.
This year I stayed in a campground that had power and water. I used a Tornado electric heater for the three nights it got into the low 20s and had no condensation at all. The Big Agness side sleeping bag was almost too warm.
Also used the Lux Pro LED lights, I only used at night and one set of batteries lasted the full eight nights. Fantastic light for a tent!
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A little new years update with our R&D with home manufactured barrel stove. As stated previously the ID energy logs did real good. Have a bag of mesquite lump cool in the shop. With the talk about burning coal my light bulb came on. Grabbed up some of the biggest pieces and gave it a test. Worked real well. One real issue is when first put in and while it gets going it sparks and pops alot and they have the tendency to end up out the door onto the ground. Not a big big deal breaker but need to be aware. It burned long and hot and easy controlled with air vent.
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Where do you get that stuff?
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Where do you get that stuff?
I’ve gotten it at Walmart, they sell if for barbecues, not all the pieces in the bag are that big though.
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Where do you get that stuff?
Cash N Carry. I use it when smoking meats in my UDS. Ugly Drum Smoker. Once you get it going in the woodstove it's great to spear a chuck of venison and slow role it over the coals or just a hot dog. Great flavor! The bags average 30-40% bigger pieces. The piece I'm holding is definitely about the biggest you'll see then they scale down from there to dust. Think it was 15$ a bag?
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Had some serious rain last week or so. Lots of water came down the stove pipe. Came up with this idea when not using the woodstove. Don't want t use a China cap as it deflects sparks embers down onto tent.
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I just put a elbow on top,as we keep the stones going around the clock mostly.
But that’s a good idea.
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@ghosthunter where do you get your peppermint oil? Did some R&D and found the peppermint extract works but evaporated fast due to the alcohol. Maybe I should mix extract with cooking oil? :dunno:
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Easiest to buy it on amazon.
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:tup:
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@ghosthunter where do you get your peppermint oil? Did some R&D and found the peppermint extract works but evaporated fast due to the alcohol. Maybe I should mix extract with cooking oil? :dunno:
I bought at the food co op . Just because I am the kind of guy that likes to walk in ,touch something and pay cash.
If I had too, I would buy on line. But I don’t.
Everything I read said pure peppermint . No extract. But never tried it.
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Seen folks insulating there Yurts with various different stuff. Bubble Foam to ridged foam. Anybody doing this with there wall tents? I would think it would not let tent breath if you rolled out bubble wrap over the roof. :dunno:
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I was thinking about slipping some 1/2"or 1" rigid foam insulation in between the frame posts and the canvas material. First thought was at the ceiling but then I was concerned the snow wouldn't melt and come off. Next thought was around the perimeter walls. My buddy was thinking bubble wrap sheets on the inside of the framing. :dunno: If I try it this year I will definitely post up a report.
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@ghosthunter where do you get your peppermint oil? Did some R&D and found the peppermint extract works but evaporated fast due to the alcohol. Maybe I should mix extract with cooking oil? :dunno:
I bought at the food co op . Just because I am the kind of guy that likes to walk in ,touch something and pay cash.
If I had too, I would buy on line. But I don’t.
Everything I read said pure peppermint . No extract. But never tried it.
Rite Aid has it in the essential oils area, most drug stores probably do.👍
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@ghosthunter where do you get your peppermint oil? Did some R&D and found the peppermint extract works but evaporated fast due to the alcohol. Maybe I should mix extract with cooking oil? :dunno:
I bought at the food co op . Just because I am the kind of guy that likes to walk in ,touch something and pay cash.
If I had too, I would buy on line. But I don’t.
Everything I read said pure peppermint . No extract. But never tried it.
Rite Aid has it in the essential oils area, most drug stores probably do.👍
Kim
Hey thanks for the tip! Would have never looked in that area for our mouse deterrent but I have been there for other ointments of concern......... :chuckle:
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What type of outhouse is everyone using when hunting/camping out of a wall tent?
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Nowadays just dig a hole. Leave shovel next to it. Cover the damage as you go. Years back we got a little more fancy, but we dont spend enough time around camp to do that these days.
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What type of outhouse is everyone using when hunting/camping out of a wall tent?
Well our deer camp is 12 to 15 . With some ladies too. So we spend a little time making it comfortable.
Last few years it’s been a Chair with a seat on it over a hole,with a double bull blind over that.
Motion sensing interior light. And solar lights marking the trail.
Use a red blinker on top to indicate in use.
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Setting up our tent to do winter R&D would I ever even thought I'd still have it up now for possible quarantine chamber. Getting escentuals into the Canvas Hospital and hope not to have to use it for the Virus.
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Ice
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This shut down is cutting into my turkey wall tent time. :bash:
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:yeah:
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This shut down is cutting into my turkey wall tent time. :bash:
Well ours is still up with turkeys all the way around it every day. The ice idea was great till it ran out. :chuckle: How much could a person charge to stay in tent and take pics of the turks?
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This shut down is cutting into my turkey wall tent time. :bash:
Well ours is still up with turkeys all the way around it every day. The ice idea was great till it ran out. :chuckle: How much could a person charge to stay in tent and take pics of the turks?
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
That was supposed to be “Nice”
:chuckle: :chuckle: :tung:
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This shut down is cutting into my turkey wall tent time. :bash:
Well ours is still up with turkeys all the way around it every day. The ice idea was great till it ran out. :chuckle: How much could a person charge to stay in tent and take pics of the turks?
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
That was supposed to be “Nice”
:chuckle: :chuckle: :tung:
Been wonder what ice was.🤣
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Well got the tents up even though it was only one night and I never got to sleep in them. Due to the ill fated turkey hunt.
Took them down in the rain. So got them up today and cleaned up in the sun.
Fold up the sides so the slugs don’t get on them overnight. Or some arrant dog.
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Lookin good Ghosty! Sorry to here your turk hunt went south but the grandkid will live with those memories for life! So with fire season upon us it's time to drop the wall tent and get ready for fall hunts. The ground dried up hard at the tent stakes and proved hard to get out. So with some Red Neck Trade Specific enginudity and the kids in tow we done figured it out! After we scoured the shop for anything possible to pull out these tent stakes, besides hauling down the bumper jack and a piece of chain we found it! The ultimate stake puller and you can all thank us at a latter time of life. So here it is a freaking Conduit Bender 1/2" that I have made a living with for 30 yrs! Life is good!
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That a great idea. I made some pullers that fit in each tent box out of water shut off keys but that looks great. I am going to try it.
Thanks
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Great idea with the conduit bender. I got in the trade in 1995. I think this will be the most enjoyment I get out of mine. Thanks for the tip.
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Well it’s time wall tenters to start looking at that tent, finding the stakes and poles. Getting things ready.
Now that I got the cylinder stove sold and picked up another used three dog. I am going through the stoves making sure they are ready. Each one stocked with supplies for first night fire. And great time for a new coat of paint.
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Got to keep the family strong.
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Each stove will have, wood, starter, torch,hatchet, press log,clean out shovel,hot pad, some kind of fire extinguisher, needle nose vice grips and some wire.
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asking for a friend......@Pathfinder101
Any tips on fixing a bent frame?
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asking for a friend......@Pathfinder101
Any tips on fixing a bent frame?
Bent pole, heat it and bend it back.😉
If it breaks get a new pole.🤣
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asking for a friend......@Pathfinder101
Any tips on fixing a bent frame?
Bent pole, heat it and bend it back.😉
If it breaks get a new pole.🤣
Solid tactic. Hoping that this comment finds it's way to @Pathfinder101 soon. LOL
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@Pathfinder101
The “@“ thing only works when mods do it for some reason.
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asking for a friend......@Pathfinder101
Any tips on fixing a bent frame?
Bent pole, heat it and bend it back.😉
If it breaks get a new pole.🤣
Solid tactic. Hoping that this comment finds it's way to @Pathfinder101 soon. LOL
https://makeitfrommetal.com/how-to-properly-bend-metal-pipe-and-tube-at-home/
Is one pipe bent, or is your whole frame tweaked?
If the whole thing is tweaked you might have multiple poles bent.
But you still have to bend them one at a time to fix them.🤣
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asking for a friend......@Pathfinder101
Any tips on fixing a bent frame?
Bent pole, heat it and bend it back.😉
If it breaks get a new pole.🤣
Solid tactic. Hoping that this comment finds it's way to @Pathfinder101 soon. LOL
OK, so.... Hunt-WA 101...
When you log on and see a number in your profile that says "mentions", you click on it. That brings you to the thread you were "mentioned" in. Then you read through it and your elk hunting partner is proposing a backyard project involving a firepit and your wall tent that will allow your wall tent door to close the way it's supposed to (just in case elk camp gets another 3 feet of snow and the temp drops to negative wind chills again this year)... :chuckle: :chuckle:
@coryTDF... you busy this weekend...? :chuckle:
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@CoryTDF
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@CoryTDF
Jeez.. as if you poor moderators didn't already have enough to do... :rolleyes:
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@CoryTDF
Jeez.. as if you poor moderators didn't already have enough to do... :rolleyes:
:chuckle: I believe the tech guys are working on it. For now I just know it doesn't work unless you are a mod. If I see one I just redo it so the member gets notified. You only got the one mention correct? You should have received two if it was working correct.
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@CoryTDF
Jeez.. as if you poor moderators didn't already have enough to do... :rolleyes:
:chuckle: I believe the tech guys are working on it. For now I just know it doesn't work unless you are a mod. If I see one I just redo it so the member gets notified. You only got the one mention correct? You should have received two if it was working correct.
Just got a 1
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WoW! What a wealth of knowledge in this thread. For a guy with a new wall tent and preparing for its maiden voyage, a very valuable resource. It only took me 3 days to read through the 42 pages :chuckle:
Thanks to everyone for their contributions and advice. A few questions.
1) I read several guys stating that they use battery lights inside the tent instead of propane. Is this a safety issue or personal preference? The camps I have been in used propane with no problem, at least not that I was aware of. My plan was to use propane, big bottle-tree-lantern.
2) How many of you guys leave your tent up mid-week while you aren't there? Say between the end of elk and beginning of deer (Eastside).
3) My plan was to use a plastic tarp over the back half of my tent to add another layer of protection from weather (snow) and to help keep any embers from burning holes. I don't plan on tarping the front half because I don't want to deal with working the tarp around the stove chimney and jack. Thoughts?
Thanks
-Slammer
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I'd say there is nothing unsafe about propane light, its just preference. The new LED lights are way brighter and last very long with good batteries, and way easier to move around or grab and go to pack meat out at odark thirty. A safety part for us using LED is our kids 5 and 10 are in camp for 3 weeks and its one less hot something to touch.
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As for your tent being up for a period of time. There's a 14 day stay rule which is up to you to decide how to maneuver?
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WoW! What a wealth of knowledge in this thread. For a guy with a new wall tent and preparing for its maiden voyage, a very valuable resource. It only took me 3 days to read through the 42 pages :chuckle:
Thanks to everyone for their contributions and advice. A few questions.
1) I read several guys stating that they use battery lights inside the tent instead of propane. Is this a safety issue or personal preference? The camps I have been in used propane with no problem, at least not that I was aware of. My plan was to use propane, big bottle-tree-lantern.
2) How many of you guys leave your tent up mid-week while you aren't there? Say between the end of elk and beginning of deer (Eastside).
3) My plan was to use a plastic tarp over the back half of my tent to add another layer of protection from weather (snow) and to help keep any embers from burning holes. I don't plan on tarping the front half because I don't want to deal with working the tarp around the stove chimney and jack. Thoughts?
Thanks
-Slammer
I moved from propane lights to battery three years ago. Never go back. Propane is brighter some times ,but they are way more sensitive than battery and take up a lot more room. propane seemed to get broke globes .
I set my tents up at beginning of season till day after it ends. But we always have folks in camp.
You can make your own rain fly out of a white tarp in a couple hours. I have two one for each tent. Cut the pipe hole out square 8 inches from stove jack hole on tent. Do it in the back yard. 16 inch eves each side ,12 inches in back , 6 feet out over the door. Mark the fly with marker on all corners where it matches tent frame, Mark it on edge front and back, and center. Makes for easy fitting over tent.
Many guys don't do it , But if you want to cut down on a lot of maintenance and keep it looking good well worth the time to fit a total fly. Eastern WA pitch is a bugger on canvas.
Practice no spark fires. NO Paper burning, no kindlin, use fire starter
Heavy rain dripping in dirt along your tent will make a heck of a mess of your tent. Fly that goes out past the tent helps a lot.
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Like this
Well actually that’s two tarps.
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Better fly shot ,no fires season.
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Both
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Like this
Well actually that’s two tarps.
Social distancing or day 4 of no showers? :chuckle:
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Like this
Well actually that’s two tarps.
Social distancing or day 4 of no showers? :chuckle:
2 years ago
chilli night before :chuckle:
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So we are in our 3rd season with our wall tent set up. As stated before thanks to everyone contributing to Ghosties Tent Tricks thread! :tup: When I moved tent up to shop to clean from being up all winter I decided to try the ratchet strap through the pole fittings to keep frame together as i solely set up the tent to keep frame from sliding apart. It worked so well we did it this week at our elk camp. But it doubled as more easy hanging for wet towels and clothes. It also keeps the stuff off of the walls which allows better faster drying . Think I remember someone relaying this idea on here or maybe I had to much ICE. :chuckle:
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@HuntinCouple, good point about kids and propane. I guess I was more asking if anyone has left a camp up midweek unattended, have they ever had theft issues. Should have used specific wording. The 14 day rule doesn't bother me.
@Ghosthunter, I like your idea of cutting out a hole. Its more work than I wanted to do, but probably worth it.
Thanks!
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asking for a friend......@Pathfinder101
Any tips on fixing a bent frame?
Bent pole, heat it and bend it back.😉
If it breaks get a new pole.🤣
Solid tactic. Hoping that this comment finds it's way to @Pathfinder101 soon. LOL
Waddaya talkin' about "bent poles"...? My tent door closes... :chuckle:
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@HuntinCouple, good point about kids and propane. I guess I was more asking if anyone has left a camp up midweek unattended, have they ever had theft issues. Should have used specific wording. The 14 day rule doesn't bother me.
@Ghosthunter, I like your idea of cutting out a hole. Its more work than I wanted to do, but probably worth it.
Thanks!
When I had the wall tent I left it up all summer and had no problems even left food and drink available in the food boxes and would be gone at times for 10 days to 2 weeks.
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@HuntinCouple, good point about kids and propane. I guess I was more asking if anyone has left a camp up midweek unattended, have they ever had theft issues. Should have used specific wording. The 14 day rule doesn't bother me.
@Ghosthunter, I like your idea of cutting out a hole. Its more work than I wanted to do, but probably worth it.
Thanks!
Someone asked about leaving a camp and security awhile back.
I have done it. Left it up came back to west side for three days. A lot depends on where you are and what your camp looks like from the road. If it looks vacant you might have problems. We ever had. I think for several reasons.
Battery lights. You can leave the on for days with no danger.
Leave a radio playing.
Solar lights that light up after dark.
And Brad. We leave brad there. Good weather around the fire pit, Bad weather under a tarp at cook shack with his back to road.
Or in a tent with light on.
We had folks walk up and talk to him. Put a vest on your Brad.
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@HuntinCouple, good point about kids and propane. I guess I was more asking if anyone has left a camp up midweek unattended, have they ever had theft issues. Should have used specific wording. The 14 day rule doesn't bother me.
@Ghosthunter, I like your idea of cutting out a hole. Its more work than I wanted to do, but probably worth it.
Thanks!
Someone asked about leaving a camp and security awhile back.
I have done it. Left it up came back to west side for three days. A lot depends on where you are and what your camp looks like from the road. If it looks vacant you might have problems. We ever had. I think for several reasons.
Battery lights. You can leave the on for days with no danger.
Leave a radio playing.
Solar lights that light up after dark.
And Brad. We leave brad there. Good weather around the fire pit, Bad weather under a tarp at cook shack with his back to road.
Or in a tent with light on.
We had folks walk up and talk to him. Put a vest on your Brad.
Nothing less than genius... :bow:
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@HuntinCouple, good point about kids and propane. I guess I was more asking if anyone has left a camp up midweek unattended, have they ever had theft issues. Should have used specific wording. The 14 day rule doesn't bother me.
@Ghosthunter, I like your idea of cutting out a hole. Its more work than I wanted to do, but probably worth it.
Thanks!
Someone asked about leaving a camp and security awhile back.
I have done it. Left it up came back to west side for three days. A lot depends on where you are and what your camp looks like from the road. If it looks vacant you might have problems. We ever had. I think for several reasons.
Battery lights. You can leave the on for days with no danger.
Leave a radio playing.
Solar lights that light up after dark.
And Brad. We leave brad there. Good weather around the fire pit, Bad weather under a tarp at cook shack with his back to road.
Or in a tent with light on.
We had folks walk up and talk to him. Put a vest on your Brad.
Brad says splitting wood is for youngsters, im so old my bones hurt :chuckle:
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@HuntinCouple, good point about kids and propane. I guess I was more asking if anyone has left a camp up midweek unattended, have they ever had theft issues. Should have used specific wording. The 14 day rule doesn't bother me.
@Ghosthunter, I like your idea of cutting out a hole. Its more work than I wanted to do, but probably worth it.
Thanks!
Someone asked about leaving a camp and security awhile back.
I have done it. Left it up came back to west side for three days. A lot depends on where you are and what your camp looks like from the road. If it looks vacant you might have problems. We ever had. I think for several reasons.
Battery lights. You can leave the on for days with no danger.
Leave a radio playing.
Solar lights that light up after dark.
And Brad. We leave brad there. Good weather around the fire pit, Bad weather under a tarp at cook shack with his back to road.
Or in a tent with light on.
We had folks walk up and talk to him. Put a vest on your Brad.
Brad says splitting wood is for youngsters, im so old my bones hurt :chuckle:
Yeah he is not much of a worker, mostly a sitter, he likes to supervise though, kinda like a state worker. :chuckle:
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@HuntinCouple, good point about kids and propane. I guess I was more asking if anyone has left a camp up midweek unattended, have they ever had theft issues. Should have used specific wording. The 14 day rule doesn't bother me.
@Ghosthunter, I like your idea of cutting out a hole. Its more work than I wanted to do, but probably worth it.
Thanks!
Someone asked about leaving a camp and security awhile back.
I have done it. Left it up came back to west side for three days. A lot depends on where you are and what your camp looks like from the road. If it looks vacant you might have problems. We ever had. I think for several reasons.
Battery lights. You can leave the on for days with no danger.
Leave a radio playing.
Solar lights that light up after dark.
And Brad. We leave brad there. Good weather around the fire pit, Bad weather under a tarp at cook shack with his back to road.
Or in a tent with light on.
We had folks walk up and talk to him. Put a vest on your Brad.
Brad says splitting wood is for youngsters, im so old my bones hurt :chuckle:
Yeah he is not much of a worker, mostly a sitter, he likes to supervise though, kinda like a state worker. :chuckle:
Atleast he wont drink all the beer :chuckle:
You should start a thread titled "The adventures of Brad" :tup:
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@HuntinCouple, good point about kids and propane. I guess I was more asking if anyone has left a camp up midweek unattended, have they ever had theft issues. Should have used specific wording. The 14 day rule doesn't bother me.
@Ghosthunter, I like your idea of cutting out a hole. Its more work than I wanted to do, but probably worth it.
Thanks!
Someone asked about leaving a camp and security awhile back.
I have done it. Left it up came back to west side for three days. A lot depends on where you are and what your camp looks like from the road. If it looks vacant you might have problems. We ever had. I think for several reasons.
Battery lights. You can leave the on for days with no danger.
Leave a radio playing.
Solar lights that light up after dark.
And Brad. We leave brad there. Good weather around the fire pit, Bad weather under a tarp at cook shack with his back to road.
Or in a tent with light on.
We had folks walk up and talk to him. Put a vest on your Brad.
Brad says splitting wood is for youngsters, im so old my bones hurt :chuckle:
Yeah he is not much of a worker, mostly a sitter, he likes to supervise though, kinda like a state worker. :chuckle:
Atleast he wont drink all the beer :chuckle:
You should start a thread titled "The adventures of Brad" :tup:
I think I did? Can’t remember.
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@HuntinCouple, good point about kids and propane. I guess I was more asking if anyone has left a camp up midweek unattended, have they ever had theft issues. Should have used specific wording. The 14 day rule doesn't bother me.
@Ghosthunter, I like your idea of cutting out a hole. Its more work than I wanted to do, but probably worth it.
Thanks!
Someone asked about leaving a camp and security awhile back.
I have done it. Left it up came back to west side for three days. A lot depends on where you are and what your camp looks like from the road. If it looks vacant you might have problems. We ever had. I think for several reasons.
Battery lights. You can leave the on for days with no danger.
Leave a radio playing.
Solar lights that light up after dark.
And Brad. We leave brad there. Good weather around the fire pit, Bad weather under a tarp at cook shack with his back to road.
Or in a tent with light on.
We had folks walk up and talk to him. Put a vest on your Brad.
Brad says splitting wood is for youngsters, im so old my bones hurt :chuckle:
Yeah he is not much of a worker, mostly a sitter, he likes to supervise though, kinda like a state worker. :chuckle:
Atleast he wont drink all the beer :chuckle:
You should start a thread titled "The adventures of Brad" :tup:
I think I did? Can’t remember.
Some funny chit right there. lol
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@HuntinCouple, good point about kids and propane. I guess I was more asking if anyone has left a camp up midweek unattended, have they ever had theft issues. Should have used specific wording. The 14 day rule doesn't bother me.
@Ghosthunter, I like your idea of cutting out a hole. Its more work than I wanted to do, but probably worth it.
Thanks!
Mine stays up from the weekend before deer season through elk season.
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asking for a friend......@Pathfinder101
Any tips on fixing a bent frame?
Bent pole, heat it and bend it back.😉
If it breaks get a new pole.🤣
Solid tactic. Hoping that this comment finds it's way to @Pathfinder101 soon. LOL
Waddaya talkin' about "bent poles"...? My tent door closes... :chuckle:
LOL @Pathfinder101 it "almost" closes. I think we need to do some work on it soon.
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asking for a friend......@Pathfinder101
Any tips on fixing a bent frame?
Bent pole, heat it and bend it back.😉
If it breaks get a new pole.🤣
Solid tactic. Hoping that this comment finds it's way to @Pathfinder101 soon. LOL
Waddaya talkin' about "bent poles"...? My tent door closes... :chuckle:
LOL @Pathfinder101 it "almost" closes. I think we need to do some work on it soon.
When this smoke goes away we need to get together for a firepit/bbq/pole-bending party in my backyard. I wanted to do it last weekend but we'd all be in the hospital if we had... :dunno:
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Got my stove and angle kit. Canvas should be here soon. So excited!
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Picked up a older, but in fantastic shape, 14X16 Green Cabela's wall tent for $250 off CL. IT has 30'' walls with a peak height of about 8'5''. Ordering a frame angle kit and going to get this bad boy into the wilds!
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Nice, that's a good find, enjoy. Post some pics when it's all said and done.
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Here is the tent that I picked up. It is 14x16 and we made a 7' porch area too. Pretty excited about this bad boy! We have about $600 into it thus far. Feels like a pretty decent deal on a solid tent.
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Here is the tent that I picked up. It is 14x16 and we made a 7' porch area too. Pretty excited about this bad boy! We have about $600 into it thus far. Feels like a pretty decent deal on a solid tent.
Heck ya! :tup:
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So the directions with my stove said to burn it for an hour outdoors before any tent use to burn off any residue. While doing this initial burn, I noticed my stove pipe became discolored. The bottom stove pipe turned sort of matte gray instead of shiny chrome. Have any of you experienced this? I am a little worried maybe it got too hot, but I don't know.
Thanks
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So the directions with my stove said to burn it for an hour outdoors before any tent use to burn off any residue. While doing this initial burn, I noticed my stove pipe became discolored. The bottom stove pipe turned sort of matte gray instead of shiny chrome. Have any of you experienced this? I am a little worried maybe it got too hot, but I don't know.
Thanks
Perfectly normal. Over time most of the pipe will do that.
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Here is the tent that I picked up. It is 14x16 and we made a 7' porch area too. Pretty excited about this bad boy! We have about $600 into it thus far. Feels like a pretty decent deal on a solid tent.
:tup:
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Thank you Rainier10.
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Deer/elk camp is up. Bought a Davis Tent poly rain tarp this year since the old blue tarp wore out after last season. Planing on spending two weeks in the tent.
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Well now my hunt of three weeks is over. I spent the day putting tents up to dry and burning out stove pipe.
We have a four hour drive home and a two hour take down for our camp.
I always bring the pipes for the three stoves home put together. Than clean them at home.
Once home I separate the five sections for each stove.
Start a campfire and lay a couple sections in.
Than I take a weed burner and stick in a section. Burning out the creosote.
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You have to watch it. You can melt the pipe.
The pipe is clean when the outside turns a light mustard color.
I use a wood stick to remove the section from the fire and stand the section on end while rattling it on the stick.
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Than I take a leaf blower and blow out any ash left in the stoves. Shop vac works too.
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We did some high winds wall tent camping
Learned that stakes are super important, and you need lots and lots of them!
I used a rubber bungie on the stovepipe, just hooked the S hook over the top, then tensioned the bungie with some rope to a stake, that kept the stovepipe rock soilid..
Two other guys lost stovepipes in the wind
It was kinda miserable not knowing if the tent would survive the night, I slept in some clothing with a headlamp and had plans to sleep in the truck if the tent blew away
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We did some high winds wall tent camping
Learned that stakes are super important, and you need lots and lots of them!
I used a rubber bungie on the stovepipe, just hooked the S hook over the top, then tensioned the bungie with some rope to a stake, that kept the stovepipe rock soilid..
Two other guys lost stovepipes in the wind
It was kinda miserable not knowing if the tent would survive the night, I slept in some clothing with a headlamp and had plans to sleep in the truck if the tent blew away
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Good info of bungie for stove pipe! :tup:
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Ya, it worked very well! The bungie was on the side facing the wind, I had a plan to run 2 bungies and run a line vlear over the tent but 1 was enough.
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We also ran 3 lines over the tents and staked separately to keep them from ballooning up in the wind, that worked really well.
The lines did rub want to rub a hole in the tarp, not the tent itself though. A cloth or hose would prevent them rubbing.
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We also ran 3 lines over the tents and staked separately to keep them from ballooning up in the wind, that worked really well.
The lines did rub want to rub a hole in the tarp, not the tent itself though. A cloth or hose would prevent them rubbing.
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I always rig for wind, because it always comes up.
I run a line front and back from the ridge angle.
I wire my stove pipe down inside to the stove. Been in some strong winds.
Our cook shack has held up well in winds too. We stake each leg and throw a rope over the top and anchor to a tree on each side.
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I never had a wall te t, but these guts been doing it a long long time, I learned a lot and even contributed a few ideas.
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Pretty sure I don't want one now lol
Interested in the kodiak canvas tents
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Well every year we come up with a new idea.
After three weeks plus in the wall tents and cook shack and feeding three stoves every day. One issue has been the wood ends don’t burn up under the baffle. So when you chunk the stove. In am you have to drag those ends towards the door, before adding wood.
Our small stove shovels were not always the best tool for the job.
My handy friend saw the problem and when we got back he made three of these for the stoves. Plate oN One side and pick on other. Three feet long to reach all the way back in those hot stoves.
Very nice. Using one in the house fire place.
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:tup: Ghosthunter. very handy tool. On the subject of wood stoves and tents I will add 2 more important tools. Nothing worse than packing up your stove pipes without cleaning all the creasote out of them. Next time you try to pull them apart they are welded together. I have a scraper made from a section of a coffee can attatched to a handle that makes a great scraper and then I found a flue brush on a twisted metal rod about 3' long that I chuck up in a cordless drill. Couple of strokes with that and the pipes are clean as a whistle and slide together and apart like they were brand new....
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:tup: Ghosthunter. very handy tool. On the subject of wood stoves and tents I will add 2 more important tools. Nothing worse than packing up your stove pipes without cleaning all the creasote out of them. Next time you try to pull them apart they are welded together. I have a scraper made from a section of a coffee can attatched to a handle that makes a great scraper and then I found a flue brush on a twisted metal rod about 3' long that I chuck up in a cordless drill. Couple of strokes with that and the pipes are clean as a whistle and slide together and apart like they were brand new....
We've always drug a big wad of green branches down through them, twisting as you go. Cleans a majority of the buildup out. A wire sweep would be ideal though, I just haven't found one that fits the smaller pipe. Havent really looked though.
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and if you old stove pipes stick together...just heat them up.
slip right out with a little "encouragement"
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:tup: Ghosthunter. very handy tool. On the subject of wood stoves and tents I will add 2 more important tools. Nothing worse than packing up your stove pipes without cleaning all the creasote out of them. Next time you try to pull them apart they are welded together. I have a scraper made from a section of a coffee can attatched to a handle that makes a great scraper and then I found a flue brush on a twisted metal rod about 3' long that I chuck up in a cordless drill. Couple of strokes with that and the pipes are clean as a whistle and slide together and apart like they were brand new....
We've always drug a big wad of green branches down through them, twisting as you go. Cleans a majority of the buildup out. A wire sweep would be ideal though, I just haven't found one that fits the smaller pipe. Havent really looked though.
Coastal sells 3,4,6, and 8” brushes for stove pipes.😉
The one in Mt Vernon is out right now of 3 and 4.🤬
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Looking for Eastern Washington based tent repair. Need a new entry zipper. Any suggestions? Live in Leavenworth. Thanks.
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Looking for Eastern Washington based tent repair. Need a new entry zipper. Any suggestions? Live in Leavenworth. Thanks.
Yakima tent and awning does good work. Have had them replace two zippers in one tent and repair seam tears in my other, price is reasonable sort of, but you’re paying for a service that many cannot do so I just bit the bullet and had the work done.
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Lots of great stuff on this thread. Absolutely love hunting out of a tent instead of an rv. The extra room and woodstove make the difference. Lessons do come the hard way if you are new to it. Keep a set of heavy duty welding gloves near the stove for unforeseen disasters with a hot stove. We had a snow bomb fall out of an old growth at St.Helens an t-bone the corner next to the stove one night. It bent the corner and tore the stovepipe off. Some quick scrambling and got it reattached before anything worse. We have a wall jack, a 5" 90 placed in the top of your 6" pipe helps greatly when the wind is squirrely. Lights are a combo of a propane lantern, a couple of battery lanterns and a couple of strings of white led Christmas lights run off the generator. 3 -3/16" cables, turnbuckles and hardware to hold the frame together. You can have them made or diy from Home Depot. The ratchet straps looked great also. Mice, foam earplugs soaked in bacon grease. They will pack them off, eat them and die. We seem to buy a couple of new tarps every year, sure we could of bought a couple of canvas by now. However my partner is pretty good with duct tape making a shield above the stovepipe to keep water from dripping in. Only takes a half moon cut in the tarp. No, shower? I spent 18$ on a portable with a rechargable battery this year, that is a game changer. The guys talking about the wind are spot on, I won't go into that one, please read what they say twice !
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Anyone using eco fans on their wood stoves?
Thinking about getting one.
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Anyone using eco fans on their wood stoves?
Thinking about getting one.
We don't have one yet. I've checked them out on home woodstoves and seems like the cats meow.
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Anyone using eco fans on their wood stoves?
Thinking about getting one.
We don't have one yet. I've checked them out on home woodstoves and seems like the cats meow.
Coastal has several models going on their stoves in show room. Seem like they work well.
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They work surprisingly well. The guy in the corner opposite the stove should pay for it! 😂
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Anyone using eco fans on their wood stoves?
Thinking about getting one.
We don't have one yet. I've checked them out on home woodstoves and seems like the cats meow.
Coastal has several models going on their stoves in show room. Seem like they work well.
CoryTDF showed up with one this year. Not gonna lie... it was pretty cool... :tup: We stayed toasty and the weather in Idaho was NOT nice. :P
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I picked up a couple of these for the home insert. Been very happy with them.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075F36YNK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I don't know enough about the fans to know if the Amazon $35 versions are the same or worse than the 90-150 dollar ones costal has.
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Anyone using eco fans on their wood stoves?
Thinking about getting one.
We don't have one yet. I've checked them out on home woodstoves and seems like the cats meow.
Coastal has several models going on their stoves in show room. Seem like they work well.
CoryTDF showed up with one this year. Not gonna lie... it was pretty cool... :tup: We stayed toasty and the weather in Idaho was NOT nice. :P
but he said that's cuz you guys zipped your sleeping bags together
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Anyone using eco fans on their wood stoves?
Thinking about getting one.
We don't have one yet. I've checked them out on home woodstoves and seems like the cats meow.
Coastal has several models going on their stoves in show room. Seem like they work well.
CoryTDF showed up with one this year. Not gonna lie... it was pretty cool... :tup: We stayed toasty and the weather in Idaho was NOT nice. :P
but he said that's cuz you guys zipped your sleeping bags together
...ya do whatcha gotta do... :dunno:
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Anyone using eco fans on their wood stoves?
Thinking about getting one.
We don't have one yet. I've checked them out on home woodstoves and seems like the cats meow.
Coastal has several models going on their stoves in show room. Seem like they work well.
CoryTDF showed up with one this year. Not gonna lie... it was pretty cool... :tup: We stayed toasty and the weather in Idaho was NOT nice. :P
but he said that's cuz you guys zipped your sleeping bags together
...ya do whatcha gotta do... :dunno:
As the theme to Brokeback mountain start playing, on a banjo :peep:
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Eco fans work nice, they work off a thermoelectric pad between the top side (cooler) and bottom side (hot side) the heat differential from the base to the top part of the fan generates a small charge and spins the fan once the woodstove hits 150+ degrees, so the base must have good flat contact with the hot stove top.
1 fan doesn't move a lot of air, but better than no fan. Helps dry stuff faster hanging near the woodstove.
Worth it IMO
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I'll second the Eco fan in the alaknak tent as it seems to get more condensation. This definitely keeps the corners circulating better so that you don't get wet walls.
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Anyone using eco fans on their wood stoves?
Thinking about getting one.
We don't have one yet. I've checked them out on home woodstoves and seems like the cats meow.
Coastal has several models going on their stoves in show room. Seem like they work well.
CoryTDF showed up with one this year. Not gonna lie... it was pretty cool... :tup: We stayed toasty and the weather in Idaho was NOT nice. :P
but he said that's cuz you guys zipped your sleeping bags together
...ya do whatcha gotta do... :dunno:
I have long maintained that you have never truly been cold until you had to snuggle with another dude. LOL
Back on topic though, those fans are really nice. For $35 and no additional cost it was money well spent and it certainly helped dry our wet gear.
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I have long maintained that you have never truly been cold until you had to snuggle with another dude. LOL
SERE school
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I have long maintained that you have never truly been cold until you had to snuggle with another dude. LOL
SERE school
Lotta dude snuggling must be going on in 117.
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I have long maintained that you have never truly been cold until you had to snuggle with another dude. LOL
SERE school
:chuckle:
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In a effort to make things a little easier in my senior years, I got one of. These for each of my wall tents.
It holds the stove all the ropes, stakes, angles, ground cloth and extras. Just roll it up the trailer ramp and go.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-Tough-Chest-38-in-63-Gal-Mobile-Tool-Box-DWST38000/205502769?MERCH=REC-_-pipsem-_-207138341-_-205502769-_-N&
There is a tray not pictured inside to hold small stuff. You can set the tray in the handle .
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Well the tents are stored away in their barrels and I am going through tent Boxes and cleaning things up.
I just bought my 3 rd 10x12 from a member here complete with a cylinder stove. Putting together a tent box for it now. Got all the frame marked with colored electrical tape for quick set up.
Ordered a 18 oz Tarp for its floor off Amazon . Saved $50.00.
Ordered 24. New stakes to match my other tents. Reliable Tent and Tipi.
Ordered frame bags from Wall Tent Shop.
Still have to get
Tarp to make fly. White
Ash shovel
Torch
Stove fan
Stove pad
Than some nice weather to really get it dialed in for upcoming hunting and fishing trips.
Real happy with finding this tent. Just like my number #2 tent except one door, no windows, two stove jacks.
I have a plan to ultilize the back wall stove jack as a window for ventilation.
I love messing with these tents.
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Thats a great acquisition to your portfolio of wall tents! Team Rascals set our main tent up today to run R&D testing since we got a bout of winter and looks like it might be here for awhile? We shall see? The main testing this winter is the propane Mr. Heaters and longevity of the propane jugs? We ran our homemade hillbilly stove hard last winter and it is proven. Works great unti it rusts out then we engineer another.
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Nice
Wish I was doing that. :chuckle:
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Don't know if its been said, but buy a bigger one then u think you'll need. You'll enjoy the extra room. I've got a 13x27 alakniak and a 10x 14 bow flex, love them both
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Don't know if its been said, but buy a bigger one then u think you'll need. You'll enjoy the extra room. I've got a 13x27 alakniak and a 10x 14 bow flex, love them both
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I approached a little different.
I can set up 10 x 12 all day long by my self at 69.
But anything bigger I wouldn’t be able to lift by myself.
If you got help every time go bigger. But if you only need that much space once in awhile, I think you have more options with two 10 x 12 than one big tent. You can put them together for more room. Space them apart with a cook area between or adapt to smaller campsites. A lot of options.
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Buddy made these handy stake puller for me.
My back says thanks.
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Don't know if its been said, but buy a bigger one then u think you'll need. You'll enjoy the extra room. I've got a 13x27 alakniak and a 10x 14 bow flex, love them both
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I approached a little different.
I can set up 10 x 12 all day long by my self at 69.
But anything bigger I wouldn’t be able to lift by myself.
If you got help every time go bigger. But if you only need that much space once in awhile, I think you have more options with two 10 x 12 than one big tent. You can put them together for more room. Space them apart with a cook area between or adapt to smaller campsites. A lot of options.
:twocents:
If you have a big tent and a small tent it is nice but a big tent can limit your options. Bigger footprint needs bigger camp/flat area. It also makes it not as efficient if you only have 2-3 people. We sold our 16x20 wall tent and went to a flexbow that is where we sleep and then a pop up canopy outside for cooking. Pretty versatile but only limitation is if more than 3 guys it wouldn't work. I am actually fine with that as most guys I hunt with snore like chainsaws so they can bring their own tent. :chuckle:
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Foam ear plugs to sleep are a must with partners who snore.
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Foam ear plugs to sleep are a must with partners who snore.
Oh ya, I don't leave home without them. I do have one hunting buddy, if whiskey is involved, makes it so ear plugs are pointless :yike: :chuckle:
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I gave my grandson the option to have his own tent or sleep in with me because not everyone was in camp till later in the hunt. I was crushed when he chose his own tent.
You snore grandpa. :bash:
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Snoring is a real problem. I try and hit the hay first....if I don’t it is like trying to get to sleep in a thunderstorm. :chuckle: :chuckle: Earplugs help but only a little bit.
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Snoring is a real problem. I try and hit the hay first....if I don’t it is like trying to get to sleep in a thunderstorm. :chuckle: :chuckle: Earplugs help but only a little bit.
Hahaha, I always seem to wake up with one earplug in and can't find the other, it never makes sense :dunno: and by the end of a 6 day hunting season I always end up with 2 or 3 earplugs in the bottom of my sleeping bag. :chuckle:
My hunting buddy Tyson snores like no other. He just laughs and says "All you have to do is fall asleep before me"..lol
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Don't know if its been said, but buy a bigger one then u think you'll need. You'll enjoy the extra room. I've got a 13x27 alakniak and a 10x 14 bow flex, love them both
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I approached a little different.
I can set up 10 x 12 all day long by my self at 69.
But anything bigger I wouldn’t be able to lift by myself.
If you got help every time go bigger. But if you only need that much space once in awhile, I think you have more options with two 10 x 12 than one big tent. You can put them together for more room. Space them apart with a cook area between or adapt to smaller campsites. A lot of options.
:twocents:
If you have a big tent and a small tent it is nice but a big tent can limit your options. Bigger footprint needs bigger camp/flat area. It also makes it not as efficient if you only have 2-3 people. We sold our 16x20 wall tent and went to a flexbow that is where we sleep and then a pop up canopy outside for cooking. Pretty versatile but only limitation is if more than 3 guys it wouldn't work. I am actually fine with that as most guys I hunt with snore like chainsaws so they can bring their own tent. :chuckle:
Now with a few seasons under our belts. The main tent 12x18 as stated above i would not go any bigger. I can set it up by self but see issues with age if doing it by self and or a injury say 'back and it would be a no go. Anybody looking into wall tents should take to heart ❤ getting two smaller tents as stated and have way more options for set up. The weight of just cavas of the 12x18 is #80 lbs.
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I bought a 10*12 thinking of weight n setting up by myself. Wish I would have gone 12*14. The amount of floor space between the two is substantial. I will now probably just by a flexbow n have two tents. Decisions decisions lol
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Here’s the best tip I’ve got.
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Holy cow! Do you call it the Four Seasons?
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Holy cow! Do you call it the Four Seasons?
Right? You could play hockey in that thing!
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great tent! Is your tip "to hunt in nice weather!" Looks warm and dry at camp :)
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3 days after that picture was taken I was chained up and wondering if we would get to camp for the opener. Weather changes quick at 8,500’ in November.
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Miles, I have been looking at that tent picture since your post. Hats off to you and crew!!!! Please post more pics with snow and dead stuff. :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:
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Wow!
For years I have been cutting back and minimizing as much as possible, without cutting what comfort there is.
That tent, it is one tent correct? Is humongous!
It looks like close to a cord of wood split and stacked as well. How long and how many people does that beast take to setup!
Honestly, I have seen many large camps, but that thing is by far the biggest I have seen.
When I first saw this, I was in my garage, I looked at my truck with a 5.5” bed, with Bakflip tonneau cover, that all my deer camp gear can fit under.
How in the world do you pack that puppy and all the stuff to fill it?
Do you have any pics of the inside?
Seriously impressive tent!
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Found one of these under the tree. Cant wait to try it out.
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Long lost cousin hooked us up as well!! Set it in the tent and works awesome! Ran one Buddy heater 24/7 on low 4,000 BTU setting and went strong 80hrs to burn 4.5 gallons of propane.
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Turkey season is coming.
Little tent porn.
https://blog.whiteduckoutdoors.com/the-pros-and-cons-of-wall-tents
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Might be in the market for some one to repair one of my Canvas Wall tents. Its a Tent Shop Tent I bought from a member here last year. Seems like someone on here was saying they repaired tents.
Any suggestions???
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Might be in the market for some one to repair one of my Canvas Wall tents. Its a Tent Shop Tent I bought from a member here last year. Seems like someone on here was saying they repaired tents.
Any suggestions???
John at BRAVO does tent repairs and is a site sponsor.
It was noted earlier in this thread Yakima Tent and Awning does as well.
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It might already be in here lots of pages to read.
A buddy has a wall tent and had his stove pipe out the top. But kept getting soot running down the pipe into the tent. So he switched it to the side of the tent. Doesn’t seem very efficient. To many bends? Doesn’t burn as good. Still drips but at least it is out of the tent. Ideas? Wood type?
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It might already be in here lots of pages to read.
A buddy has a wall tent and had his stove pipe out the top. But kept getting soot running down the pipe into the tent. So he switched it to the side of the tent. Doesn’t seem very efficient. To many bends? Doesn’t burn as good. Still drips but at least it is out of the tent. Ideas? Wood type?
Use dry wood. Possibly damping down to low which causes to not burn hot which creates creosote. There are thermometers to put on stove which will show the burn temperature to maintain so creosote is not formed. Hope that helps!
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It might already be in here lots of pages to read.
A buddy has a wall tent and had his stove pipe out the top. But kept getting soot running down the pipe into the tent. So he switched it to the side of the tent. Doesn’t seem very efficient. To many bends? Doesn’t burn as good. Still drips but at least it is out of the tent. Ideas? Wood type?
Use dry wood. Possibly damping down to low which causes to not burn hot which creates creosote. There are thermometers to put on stove which will show the burn temperature to maintain so creosote is not formed. Hope that helps!
Never had that problem ,but have had creosote build up over a week. One thing I did is ditch the damper. I found I could control burn and heat better with air adjustment. Burn stove hot hour or so before bed time. Load up at bedtime and reduce air to control temp. Nighttime nature call open draft on way out door. Back in stoke stove, cut air back to bed.
Once you figure out where the air needs to be it’s easy.
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We fought out the side venting in our cook shack for years. Than put in a roof jack and never looked back.
We never burn paper or cedar in the tent stoves because those items let a lot of sparks or incomplete burned embers that could get on the tent.
We use dural flame log fire starters and a Plummer’s torch to start fires.
We also run a 90 elbow on the top.
Slipping the whole stack off every five days and taping out takes just a few minutes but helps a lot.
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Another thread got me thinking.
Anyone ever just throw some pellets in with the wood in your tent stove?
How’s that work?
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Another thread got me thinking.
Anyone ever just throw some pellets in with the wood in your tent stove?
How’s that work?
Good idea! Will have to try this at elk camp or next winter R&D here at the place.
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I've thought about that for my Seek titanium stove, but I have not done it yet.
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About three weeks I will have three tents up turkey hunting. Might give it a try.
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Another thread got me thinking.
Anyone ever just throw some pellets in with the wood in your tent stove?
How’s that work?
My guess is that with out wood coals under them they’ll smother out. The pellet stoves made for wall tents create their own draft to keep them burning.
But hey you never know.🤣
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Presto logs
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Presto logs
Basically a big wood pellet
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Your local outdoor supply store carries bear bricks or similar rectangular presto logs that work great. But a teepee generally means packin so sticks are what you work with
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Presto logs
Basically a big wood pellet
We tried this once. Worked OK. Got more burn time before we had to wake up and restoke it. Just feels wrong using presto logs at elk camp though... :chuckle:
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When I was guiding, we always put in boot scrapers at the entrance of the tent.
We'd excavate a place in front, like you were pouring a slab.
We'd then put 3-4 pieces of split firewood, with the thin edges up, then backfill the hole with the firewood buried, proud, sticking out.
Good and packed, makes a good door mat for cleaning muddy boots.
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I am a little, lets say crazy about my tent care. The canvas bags they come with are less than adequate for transport in my opinion. So I come up with different solutions for moving them around.
I have a large over size decoy bag I have used for one tent with a very durable fabric. But the best thing I have ever found was a soft car top carrier at a G sale. It unzips a huge opening ,which you can roll the tent into and zip shut. Protects the tent from moisture, snags and such.
I like this method so much I bought a new soft car top cargo carrier for my 3rd tent.
I only use them for transport from storage to camp and back.
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I hate the bags tents come in. Seriously why make a bag, that is all but Impossible to get the tent back in Once you use it. :bash:
LOL
I use clear plastic bins.
All my tent stuff go in one bin. My cooking stuff in another, and the in tent stuff in a Third. I put my dry food in a different type of bin, with easy access.
Makes it really easy to pack and keep everything together.
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Yea I did some thing similar for all the tent stuff except the tent, because I dry the tents when I get home.
The angle,stove,stakes , ground cloth ,ropes ,stove fan, all go in these plastic tool boxes that roll up my trailer ramp.
Kitchen in one
Food in another
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What kind of spark arrestor are people using with their tent stoves? Any DIY ones people can't live without?
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What kind of spark arrestor are people using with their tent stoves? Any DIY ones people can't live without?
I use the standard fair when I have too. They all clog up if you are in camp using them every day. I like a elbow on the top that I turn depending on wind.
My buddy wants to try one of those spinning ones. But he is going to custom make them.
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Well I ha e been waiting for a stretch of this nice cooler weather to do my annual tent maintenance.
So first up is tent #3. Which I bought from a member here. It came with a cylinder stove which I have not used yet or even set up. We took all three tents turkey hunting but did not need the stove.
So out it came tonight set up and do some gentle cleaning on a couple spots. Got the poles all color taped and going to make custom rain fly this weekend.
I got this tent for a killer good price and really like it.
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Very nice!
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Finished cleaning tent tonight so while it drys I got out the cylinder stove and revisited why I have never liked them. Pulled out stove pipe almost new but seems like cylinder stoves always have inverted stove pipes compared to my dog stoves.
5 1/4 going in the stove 6 inch on the top. Won’t go through the stove jack assembled. Have to poke it through third section up and add the other two sections. :bash: So taking it out you have a better than 50% chance of dropping creasolte on the tent.
I could cut the stove jack bigger but I just don’t like the pipe bigger at top smaller at bottom.
Think I will order a new pipe set so all the stoves are the same.
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Finished cleaning tent tonight so while it drys I got out the cylinder stove and revisited why I have never liked them. Pulled out stove pipe almost new but seems like cylinder stoves always have inverted stove pipes compared to my dog stoves.
5 1/4 going in the stove 6 inch on the top. Won’t go through the stove jack assembled. Have to poke it through third section up and add the other two sections. :bash: So taking it out you have a better than 50% chance of dropping creasolte on the tent.
I could cut the stove jack bigger but I just don’t like the pipe bigger at top smaller at bottom.
Think I will order a new pipe set so all the stoves are the same.
Well got ahold of Don at Four Dog Stove Company, had him send me two new sets of nesting pipe.
Also got out the #2 tent today for some maintenance . Scrub it down letting dry in the good weather.
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Well been a few weeks and now the weather is heating up. So I got out Tent # 1 for cleaning and maintenance.
Hosed it down , scrub it tomorrow and dry it till weekend. Will be all ready. Just need a season with access.
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What kind of soap are you using when cleaning?
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Seems weird that you guys clean your tents before season and not after the seasonal use and before storage.
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If you need repairs to your tent, there is a great place to work with in Poulsbo WA.. Tarp Innovators... Can manage any size and issues...
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Seems weird that you guys clean your tents before season and not after the seasonal use and before storage.
Well depends on weather. All my tents were turkey hunting in April. Nothing but rain when we got back. When we took them down they were dry because it was 7o plus during the hunt every day. So all that was on them was a little dust and such. So stored till weather turned nice. Get them out during the heat and clean as best ya can. Take care of loose treads or whatever and back in bag for hunt. After fall hunt bad weather again so dry in arctic than store in barrel till good weather or next hunt.
Depends on what you have to work with. If ya got a big shop you can clean them and dry them. That's not me. Some guys dry them in their living room.
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What kind of soap are you using when cleaning?
Depends
Nothing harsh for sure. ISSO works ok. I have used dawn dish soap in cold water . No matter what you use sooner or later they start to show their age.
Around doors and stove jacks. I go out of my way to try to keep them clean at camp. But stuff happens. The worst is if you have helpers who want to walk on the canvas with buddy boots. Boots prints are super tough for some reason.
None of my tens touch the ground except a bottom of frame when set up. I have a ground cloth for each i lay out next to the frame. All the folding and unfolding happens on the tarp. I also have a fly over them in camp.
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The outside of mine is still bright, the inside has a tan tone to if from the smoke. Does the washing get that off?
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The outside of mine is still bright, the inside has a tan tone to if from the smoke. Does the washing get that off?
Maybe ,maybe not.
Look for a marine canvas cleaner. Like they use on sails.
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I never wash the inside, because it stays clean. When I fold them I keep all the sod covers together. Inside to inside, out to out.
I pull it off the left side on to a tarp ,ridge to left, Even The sod covers, than bring the ridge back to right. Now it’s 1/4 size , roll back to door.
I do it the same way every time. So next time I roll it down the left side and it’s ready to go over frame.
Keeps inside clean.
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Seems weird that you guys clean your tents before season and not after the seasonal use and before storage.
I think the only reason to clean before would be to shrink the canvas. I wash mine after and then hang it in the shop to dry…..then it goes on the shelf till the following season. Never used detergent on my canvas tents either. Broom off the dried debris, hose off the rest and then let dry. Easy as that.
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Looking good Ghost!!!! :tup:
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Seems weird that you guys clean your tents before season and not after the seasonal use and before storage.
I think the only reason to clean before would be to shrink the canvas. I wash mine after and then hang it in the shop to dry…..then it goes on the shelf till the following season. Never used detergent on my canvas tents either. Broom off the dried debris, hose off the rest and then let dry. Easy as that.
Pretty much same process on my end. Although, every other year or two I will set mine up in the summer months for a week or so just for the hell of it.
I’m definitely not knocking on a guy (Ghost) who takes great care and pride in his equipment.
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i have mine stored in rolling wheel trash cans. the 16x20 is tough to manage one person and this works well to store... also a sash of mothballs to keep rodents out of the can sitting inside.
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Going to buy a wall tent. Looking for input on which is the best. Something around 16 x20 and a lighter material than the heavy canvas. Our hunting party in on the older side . I have a good wood stove and will be hunting with snow at times. Thanks Larry
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Going to buy a wall tent. Looking for input on which is the best. Something around 16 x20 and a lighter material than the heavy canvas. Our hunting party in on the older side . I have a good wood stove and will be hunting with snow at times. Thanks Larry
I would look into the Cabelas Bighorn and Alaknak if you are wanting lighter material
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Going to buy a wall tent. Looking for input on which is the best. Something around 16 x20 and a lighter material than the heavy canvas. Our hunting party in on the older side . I have a good wood stove and will be hunting with snow at times. Thanks Larry
Montana Canvas are the heaviest but last excellent
The Wall Tent Shop has a much lighter canvas, they are good tents too, I have several
Relite is lighter than canvas (google relite tents)
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Going to buy a wall tent. Looking for input on which is the best. Something around 16 x20 and a lighter material than the heavy canvas. Our hunting party in on the older side . I have a good wood stove and will be hunting with snow at times. Thanks Larry
I would look into the Cabelas Bighorn and Alaknak if you are wanting lighter material
:yeah:
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Does anyone have any knowledge of the Artic oven tent ? Sure are spendy
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Going to buy a wall tent. Looking for input on which is the best. Something around 16 x20 and a lighter material than the heavy canvas. Our hunting party in on the older side . I have a good wood stove and will be hunting with snow at times. Thanks Larry
I would look into the Cabelas Bighorn and Alaknak if you are wanting lighter material
I can’t find alaknak tents new anymore
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Going to buy a wall tent. Looking for input on which is the best. Something around 16 x20 and a lighter material than the heavy canvas. Our hunting party in on the older side . I have a good wood stove and will be hunting with snow at times. Thanks Larry
I would not buy a large tent. If I needed that much room I would buy two small tents. Hunting camp populations go up and down with two smaller tents you have more flexibility.
If you got one big tent and nobody wants to go. The tent stays home and that’s a shame.
I have three 10 x 12 tents. Elk camp this year four guys. Two tents up and the extra frame between them for a kitchen. The big cook shack stays on the trailer.
From there straight to deer camp 15 folks all three of my tents full and the big cook shack is up. The other nine folks bring their own.
Want to go buy yourself one 10 x12 is a palace with a wood stove.
A lot easier.
One of my tents is 10 oz with aluminum frame from Reliable Tent and Tipi. It’s my favorite.
Tent # 1 back in this thread.
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Bump to the top and tagging to read through later.
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Not knowing your age but as the years get added on the 16 x 20 will be neigh on impossible to put up by yourself, at least it was for me personally I would recommend a 12 x 16 at the biggest if there is a possibility of having to put it up alone. Even then can be a challenge.
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I have had a Cabela's 8 person Westwind tent, 12' x 14'x 6' 8" height, for 9 years now. It has been an outstanding tent!
You can hunt 3 people with cots, all their gear, and a 3' x 4' center table comfortably.
I have been using it solo for the last 8 years, and I even bring a coat rack. Yes I bring way too much stuff to deer camp, LOL.
It has withstood 45 - 60 MPH winds that lasted all night with no damage at all. It was not pleasant by any means while going through it, but the tent held up just fine. The best part, I can put it up by myself in about and hour.
The only drawback I have noticed, is if you have to use a propane heater (Buddy Heater), there is condensation on the inside walls like all nylon tents until it drips off. I love the vestibule. I keep all my coolers, beer, Irish whiskey, and my boots in the vestibule. Helps keep the interior a bit cleaner especially in a wet year.
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Not exactly a wall tent but figured adding in my experience. We had a 16x20 wall tent with stove that was pretty darn awesome but like others have mentioned, does have downsides. The footprint would limit some of the places we could set it up along with it being a longer process to put up that needed multiple people. Add to that the overall bulk of all the parts would fill half the bed of your pickup plus if you only had 2 people it was overkill. We ended up moving to the Kodiak Canvas 10x14 with a pop up canopy in front of it. The tent is perfect size for 2 guys and still plenty doable for 3. Its easy to put up by yourself, waterproof and heats quickly with just a buddy heater.
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Not exactly a wall tent but figured adding in my experience. We had a 16x20 wall tent with stove that was pretty darn awesome but like others have mentioned, does have downsides. The footprint would limit some of the places we could set it up along with it being a longer process to put up that needed multiple people. Add to that the overall bulk of all the parts would fill half the bed of your pickup plus if you only had 2 people it was overkill. We ended up moving to the Kodiak Canvas 10x14 with a pop up canopy in front of it. The tent is perfect size for 2 guys and still plenty doable for 3. Its easy to put up by yourself, waterproof and heats quickly with just a buddy heater.
I also use a pop-up 12x12 canopy with a bug net around it for my camp kitchen. Works great!
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The bottom inch or so of my tent is wet from last nights rain. I’m headed home in the morning, but will be setting my tent back up on Monday. Am I ok to leave it rolled up until Monday?
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I think you will be fine. If you can open it up till Monday in a dry place so air can get to it all the better.
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The wind blew pretty good last night so I just rolled it up and crossed my fingers.
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The wind blew pretty good last night so I just rolled it up and crossed my fingers.
You will be fine. Its takes at least a handful of days and warmer temps for mold/mildew to form. :twocents:
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I've had wet tents sit around in the shop for a month or two in cold weather a few times before I was able to get them opened up and dried, they were fine. But if you take them indoors or if it's warm outside you must act much faster.
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I have played around with different security for my tents while camping. We have never had a issue but with all the property crime going on I am looking for more options for the up coming season.
I have used these battery operated alarms around my property to supplement my cameras. They make a good bit of racket and go months without new batteries. Might put them in my tents up high.
Just another cheap option.
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I never set up camp where I was worried about it.
Obviously don’t leave high dollar items laying around, but normal camp gear I’ve never been worried about.
That’s the plus of being so far up in the mountains, all the lower camps are low hanging fruit.🤣
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Well it’s almost time to pull the wall tents out for another season. Turkey opens next week and for my wall tents it’s their first outing of the year. They are sound asleep right now in there food grade barrels. Where they were stuffed after hanging and drying after last deer season.
Going to pull them out on the next sunny day. Re-roll them for the trip to the NE.
Back in December I came across these solar motion sensing lights at Harbor freight. Bought one and taped some magnets to the back so I could move it around my driveway on metal objects. It has worked great all winter and gets a enough light to provide some security light around the yard.
Thinking of getting one for the wall tents ,for those old man trips in the middle of the night.
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Well it’s almost time to pull the wall tents out for another season. Turkey opens next week and for my wall tents it’s their first outing of the year. They are sound asleep right now in there food grade barrels. Where they were stuffed after hanging and drying after last deer season.
Going to pull them out on the next sunny day. Re-roll them for the trip to the NE.
Back in December I came across these solar motion sensing lights at Harbor freight. Bought one and taped some magnets to the back so I could move it around my driveway on metal objects. It has worked great all winter and gets a enough light to provide some security light around the yard.
Thinking of getting one for the wall tents ,for those old man trips in the middle of the night.
Great idea with the magnets.
Lowes had a Bargain Bin sale of two, two packs, they stuck together for $19, of these similar Solar motion activated LED lights.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Utilitech-2-Pack-800-Lumen-7-5-Watt-Black-LED-Motion-Sensor-Wall-Pack-Light/5001749123
I snagged them and put one at each corner of my house up on the fascia. The work great.
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Well good weather is on the way. Good time to dig those tents out and give a good inspection ,scrub and general maintenance before the serious hunting starts.
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Anyone use the Kodiak tents? I actually just bought one of the 9x8 kodiak flex bow tents. My hunting partner and I go east deer hunting every year, and each have our own smaller tents. I think the 9x8 will fit me and my gear perfect. Actually going to put it up for the first time this weekend and see how my gear will fit.
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OK I admit I am a littl obsessed with LED light, :chuckle:
I found these stick on LED lights about the size of a quarter. They come in a five pack for a couple bucks at Lowes.
I put one on each side wall of my truck bed, and the work great.
I have not us d them in my tent yet, but they put out a lot of light in a tiny package.
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OK I admit I am a littl obsessed with LED light, :chuckle:
I found these stick on LED lights about the size of a quarter. They come in a five pack for a couple bucks at Lowes.
I put one on each side wall of my truck bed, and the work great.
I have not us d them in my tent yet, but they put out a lot of light in a tiny package.
No worries there is always someone worse. I found those colored cabinet lights that work on remote. I lay in bed at night in the tent and dim the lights to a soothing color. Tell my buddies I am setting the mood for the next days hunt.
They grown roll over and cover their heads. :chuckle:
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Anyone use the Kodiak tents? I actually just bought one of the 9x8 kodiak flex bow tents. My hunting partner and I go east deer hunting every year, and each have our own smaller tents. I think the 9x8 will fit me and my gear perfect. Actually going to put it up for the first time this weekend and see how my gear will fit.
I have the 10x14 flexbow and its perfect size for 2 guys and gear. We have ran it in the summer all the way down to 20 degrees during late season with no issues.
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Does anyone have a queen sized-ish bed in the wall tent when your wife comes along? Mine isn’t to fired up about sleeping on her own cot. I have a few ideas like two cots side by side with plywood cut to fit, then some sort of mattress on top .. but i think there’s gotta be a better way.
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Does anyone have a queen sized-ish bed in the wall tent when your wife comes along? Mine isn’t to fired up about sleeping on her own cot. I have a few ideas like two cots side by side with plywood cut to fit, then some sort of mattress on top .. but i think there’s gotta be a better way.
Though you lose the storage space underneath the cot, a queen sized blow up mattress/bed would work just fine.
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Does anyone have a queen sized-ish bed in the wall tent when your wife comes along? Mine isn’t to fired up about sleeping on her own cot. I have a few ideas like two cots side by side with plywood cut to fit, then some sort of mattress on top .. but i think there’s gotta be a better way.
Though you lose the storage space underneath the cot, a queen sized blow up mattress/bed would work just fine.
I forgot to add, not interested in air mattresses :tup:
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Does anyone have a queen sized-ish bed in the wall tent when your wife comes along? Mine isn’t to fired up about sleeping on her own cot. I have a few ideas like two cots side by side with plywood cut to fit, then some sort of mattress on top .. but i think there’s gotta be a better way.
I think they make double sized folding cots. That with some memory foam might work. Not quite a queen but better than two single cots
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Does anyone have a queen sized-ish bed in the wall tent when your wife comes along? Mine isn’t to fired up about sleeping on her own cot. I have a few ideas like two cots side by side with plywood cut to fit, then some sort of mattress on top .. but i think there’s gotta be a better way.
Though you lose the storage space underneath the cot, a queen sized blow up mattress/bed would work just fine.
Blow up on milk crates will work.
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When my wife would come camping, I use a queen sized blow-up mattress. Most come with a battery powered air pump to inflate them as well. If it gets cold, remember to put a blanket or comforter between you/her and the mattress. The air inside the mattress can get a bit cold. She also preferred a couple comforters on top, over the zip together large sleeping bags.
And do not forget the pillows.
PS: We bought one that had it's own frame one summer. It did not last two nights, and was very uncomfortable.
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Does anyone have a queen sized-ish bed in the wall tent when your wife comes along? Mine isn’t to fired up about sleeping on her own cot. I have a few ideas like two cots side by side with plywood cut to fit, then some sort of mattress on top .. but i think there’s gotta be a better way.
Though you lose the storage space underneath the cot, a queen sized blow up mattress/bed would work just fine.
Blow up on milk crates will work.
Interesting idea with the milk crates I actually have about 20 of those laying around that were left when I bought my new house
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When my wife would come camping, I use a queen sized blow-up mattress. Most come with a battery powered air pump to inflate them as well. If it gets cold, remember to put a blanket or comforter between you/her and the mattress. The air inside the mattress can get a bit cold. She also preferred a couple comforters on top, over the zip together large sleeping bags.
And do not forget the pillows.
PS: We bought one that had it's own frame one summer. It did not last two nights, and was very uncomfortable.
:yeah: about the cold.
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funny story about a blow up mattress. we did that during deer season one year with the mattress on the floor. woke up to a blood-curdling scream..... Mouse had just run across my wifes head. that was the last year we did that...
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Well I got all my honey do projects complete. Now it’s tent time. Going to take advantage of the good weather and get the three tents set up in the yard. Go through them and check for any maintenance issues. Loose strings and such.
My go to solution for loose threads is to trim them short and super glue the end. One drop.
Anyone do something different?
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Well I got all my honey do projects complete. Now it’s tent time. Going to take advantage of the good weather and get the three tents set up in the yard. Go through them and check for any maintenance issues. Loose strings and such.
My go to solution for loose threads is to trim them short and super glue the end. One drop.
Anyone do something different?
Well got one up and 2 started.
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#2 up just one more to go.
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And than there was three.
1&2 look good as far as clean they were used turkey season and got hosed off when we got back. They need other minor work though.
# 3 got dried after deer season but not cleaned because of weather in October. So it’s getting hosed down and some scrubbing around the bottom. Before other work.
Be busy all week working on my baby’s.
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Better photo of 2
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I met her on a sunny day. Introduced to me by my friend Alex. She was white, tight and trim. She was his for now,but soon he would loose interest in her and she would become mine.
I caressed her and pampered her. I marked her limbs to show my possession. Checking her out from every angle. She spoke to me of years gone by, of others like her who had come and gone during the days of old.
Her nostalgia seeped into my soul and I could not wait for the night when I would sleep in her for the first time. That night came in October 2017. We were together for 10 days and I enjoyed every minute of it.
Others called her by different names, but I just called her Wall Tent #2, like her sister #1 she whispered to me in the dark of the night and the dawning light about the adventures that had come and gone . She promised me more dark rainy nights and frost covered mornings. I slept the best I would sleep all year with her. As each day closed the breeze on her sides and sounds of the night would lull me to sleep.
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Having a Twofer with sisters, how could life get better :dunno:
:chuckle:
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Having a Twofer with sisters, how could life get better :dunno:
:chuckle:
Now’s there three. :yike:
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One thing you can do for security of your tent should it ever be stolen is to take photos of unique characteristics of your tent. A patch here a stain there a special mark on a rafter.
I bought a tent last year my #3 from a member here. It had a patch on the inside, right side of door.
Can’t be seen from outside. It is unique one of a kind, so I have a photo of it.
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There is a lot of options for tent I’d. Sure you got to find the stolen tent first. But if you are lucky enough to catch the slime with it in his truck it will go along way with the LE if you have photos on your phone matching the tent in the truck.
Geo tags
Your business card in the frame tubes
A sequence of colored tape on the stake loops.
Sure it can all be defeated, but it takes time.
And with more than one means of ID the bad guy might miss something.
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Down in 40 minutes. Not bad for a 71 year old ,fat guy.
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End,It was hot.
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Down in 40 minutes. Not bad for a 71 year old ,fat guy.
But you are still out there getting it done :tup:
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Down in 40 minutes. Not bad for a 71 year old ,fat guy.
But you are still out there getting it done :tup:
Well ya got to love it. I like messing with the tents.
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One thing you can do for security of your tent should it ever be stolen is to take photos of unique characteristics of your tent. A patch here a stain there a special mark on a rafter.
I bought a tent last year my #3 from a member here. It had a patch on the inside, right side of door.
Can’t be seen from outside. It is unique one of a kind, so I have a photo of it.
We engraved our last name on all the frame connectors. Even though a file or grinder would remove it .
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One thing you can do for security of your tent should it ever be stolen is to take photos of unique characteristics of your tent. A patch here a stain there a special mark on a rafter.
I bought a tent last year my #3 from a member here. It had a patch on the inside, right side of door.
Can’t be seen from outside. It is unique one of a kind, so I have a photo of it.
We engraved our last name on all the frame connectors. Even though a file or grinder would remove it .
Good idea.
I guess my thinking is you come back to camp and your tent is gone, if there are limited routes out, you might get lucky and catch them on the road.
Nice to stand there with the sheriff and rattle off all your security features.
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It’s almost time. :IBCOOL:
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We're in the middle of our 4th archery elk with our BRAVO tent. It's very dialed in to say the least. The kiddos 12 and 7 now fight over who puts the most pieces together fastest! Good times for sure. Only issue which I brought up before and I failed to get the filter is the propane with 5 gallon jug with interconnting hoses leaching the oil into the heaters and Colman cook stove. Caught it and have been using the 1lb cylinders which we refill. So frustrating. Will order up filters asap. As Bone noted in his resent post this age thing sucks........ :chuckle:
Hope everyone has a great and safe Wall Tent experience this fall season!
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We're in the middle of our 4th archery elk with our BRAVO tent. It's very dialed in to say the least. The kiddos 12 and 7 now fight over who puts the most pieces together fastest! Good times for sure. Only issue which I brought up before and I failed to get the filter is the propane with 5 gallon jug with interconnting hoses leaching the oil into the heaters and Colman cook stove. Caught it and have been using the 1lb cylinders which we refill. So frustrating. Will order up filters asap. As Bone noted in his resent post this age thing sucks........ :chuckle:
Hope everyone has a great and safe Wall Tent experience this fall season!
I love the wall tents. We bought a small trailer couple years ago, because the wife wanted more comfort. But I can’t wait to get in the wall tent or mess with the wall tents.
It always saddens me a bit when I see someone post their tent for sale. It’s like part of the experience is dying. But someone else buys it and hopefully uses it.
Good luck wall tenters. Hope you make a lot of memories.
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We're in the middle of our 4th archery elk with our BRAVO tent. It's very dialed in to say the least. The kiddos 12 and 7 now fight over who puts the most pieces together fastest! Good times for sure. Only issue which I brought up before and I failed to get the filter is the propane with 5 gallon jug with interconnting hoses leaching the oil into the heaters and Colman cook stove. Caught it and have been using the 1lb cylinders which we refill. So frustrating. Will order up filters asap. As Bone noted in his resent post this age thing sucks........ :chuckle:
Hope everyone has a great and safe Wall Tent experience this fall season!
Can you explain what the filter is needed for please?
I have been using 5 gallon propane bottles for 20 years with a tree on top. Hose out of tree for BBQ and another hose for two burner Coleman grill. And a propane light on top of the tree.
Another 5 gallon bottle is used with a Little Buddy Heater, but I have not had to us it since 2015.
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We're in the middle of our 4th archery elk with our BRAVO tent. It's very dialed in to say the least. The kiddos 12 and 7 now fight over who puts the most pieces together fastest! Good times for sure. Only issue which I brought up before and I failed to get the filter is the propane with 5 gallon jug with interconnting hoses leaching the oil into the heaters and Colman cook stove. Caught it and have been using the 1lb cylinders which we refill. So frustrating. Will order up filters asap. As Bone noted in his resent post this age thing sucks........ :chuckle:
Hope everyone has a great and safe Wall Tent experience this fall season!
Can you explain what the filter is needed for please?
I have been using 5 gallon propane bottles for 20 years with a tree on top. Hose out of tree for BBQ and another hose for two burner Coleman grill. And a propane light on top of the tree.
Another 5 gallon bottle is used with a Little Buddy Heater, but I have not had to us it since 2015.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=filter+needed+to+run+buddy+heater+on+5+gal+tank&docid=608024725134918015&mid=54C6CD961C6CF4003B0C54C6CD961C6CF4003B0C&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
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We're in the middle of our 4th archery elk with our BRAVO tent. It's very dialed in to say the least. The kiddos 12 and 7 now fight over who puts the most pieces together fastest! Good times for sure. Only issue which I brought up before and I failed to get the filter is the propane with 5 gallon jug with interconnting hoses leaching the oil into the heaters and Colman cook stove. Caught it and have been using the 1lb cylinders which we refill. So frustrating. Will order up filters asap. As Bone noted in his resent post this age thing sucks........ :chuckle:
Hope everyone has a great and safe Wall Tent experience this fall season!
Can you explain what the filter is needed for please?
I have been using 5 gallon propane bottles for 20 years with a tree on top. Hose out of tree for BBQ and another hose for two burner Coleman grill. And a propane light on top of the tree.
Another 5 gallon bottle is used with a Little Buddy Heater, but I have not had to us it since 2015.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=filter+needed+to+run+buddy+heater+on+5+gal+tank&docid=608024725134918015&mid=54C6CD961C6CF4003B0C54C6CD961C6CF4003B0C&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
:yeah:
You will get away with not using a filter for a few years, then one day it will not light and all the cleaning in the world will not help. The you will youtube how to do it and it will end up a pile of parts in your garage. At that point you will go buy a new one, and a filter, then live happily ever after. The End :)
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Thank you for that video Ghosthunter!
I did not buy my hoses from Littles Buddy. I bought three 6’ hoses from a propane company. If what I am correct, is it only the Little Buddy hoses that have this problem :dunno:
Or not :o
Ironically I did have my Little Buddy get clogged up back in 2012. But when I researched it, all pointed to possible spiders clogging the output valve. I took it apart and blew out the pieces, and has worked great since.
So question, are other hoses besides the Little Buddy sold hoses subject to the same problem :dunno:
And was the cleaning and spray out I did, possibly not caused by critters like I was told :dunno:
It would suck to have to buy three separate filters, but preventive maintenance is always a good idea.
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I had some problem years ago without filter and different hoses.
Since I got filters no more issues.
Good luck.
Bobby
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I had some problem years ago without filter and different hoses.
Since I got filters no more issues.
Good luck.
Bobby
Thanks for the info!
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We're in the middle of our 4th archery elk with our BRAVO tent. It's very dialed in to say the least. The kiddos 12 and 7 now fight over who puts the most pieces together fastest! Good times for sure. Only issue which I brought up before and I failed to get the filter is the propane with 5 gallon jug with interconnting hoses leaching the oil into the heaters and Colman cook stove. Caught it and have been using the 1lb cylinders which we refill. So frustrating. Will order up filters asap. As Bone noted in his resent post this age thing sucks........ :chuckle:
Hope everyone has a great and safe Wall Tent experience this fall season!
Can you explain what the filter is needed for please?
I have been using 5 gallon propane bottles for 20 years with a tree on top. Hose out of tree for BBQ and another hose for two burner Coleman grill. And a propane light on top of the tree.
Another 5 gallon bottle is used with a Little Buddy Heater, but I have not had to us it since 2015.
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Thanks Ghost for posting video! We ran all our propane stuff off the tree with hoses for years as well. The old hoses began cracking so what the heck we will get new hoses.......... Get the Buddy hoses from Bi Mart and heck couple new heaters to. Couple seasons into it the same exact thing happened to one of the heaters noted in video. Seems there may be two different grad of hoses Buddy sells??? Maybe one hose with the elastisamers that plage the system and a hose that does not? Will need to check part numbers once back from elk camp!!! Thank God for our homemade redneck/hillbilly enginudeity fabricated deluxe woodstove! Weather's turning tomorrow.
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We're in the middle of our 4th archery elk with our BRAVO tent. It's very dialed in to say the least. The kiddos 12 and 7 now fight over who puts the most pieces together fastest! Good times for sure. Only issue which I brought up before and I failed to get the filter is the propane with 5 gallon jug with interconnting hoses leaching the oil into the heaters and Colman cook stove. Caught it and have been using the 1lb cylinders which we refill. So frustrating. Will order up filters asap. As Bone noted in his resent post this age thing sucks........ :chuckle:
Hope everyone has a great and safe Wall Tent experience this fall season!
Can you explain what the filter is needed for please?
I have been using 5 gallon propane bottles for 20 years with a tree on top. Hose out of tree for BBQ and another hose for two burner Coleman grill. And a propane light on top of the tree.
Another 5 gallon bottle is used with a Little Buddy Heater, but I have not had to us it since 2015.
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Thanks Ghost for posting video! We ran all our propane stuff off the tree with hoses for years as well. The old hoses began cracking so what the heck we will get new hoses.......... Get the Buddy hoses from Bi Mart and heck couple new heaters to. Couple seasons into it the same exact thing happened to one of the heaters noted in video. Seems there may be two different grad of hoses Buddy sells??? Maybe one hose with the elastisamers that plage the system and a hose that does not? Will need to check part numbers once back from elk camp!!! Thank God for our homemade redneck/hillbilly enginudeity fabricated deluxe woodstove! Weather's turning tomorrow.
Thank you I appreciate it.
I have been lucky the last 5 years. I have been Deer camping in a campground, that has electrical and water hookups. Only 20 miles from where I hunt.
My buddy heater has not been lit since. I will have to break it out and do some testing. :tup:
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We're in the middle of our 4th archery elk with our BRAVO tent. It's very dialed in to say the least. The kiddos 12 and 7 now fight over who puts the most pieces together fastest! Good times for sure. Only issue which I brought up before and I failed to get the filter is the propane with 5 gallon jug with interconnting hoses leaching the oil into the heaters and Colman cook stove. Caught it and have been using the 1lb cylinders which we refill. So frustrating. Will order up filters asap. As Bone noted in his resent post this age thing sucks........ :chuckle:
Hope everyone has a great and safe Wall Tent experience this fall season!
Can you explain what the filter is needed for please?
I have been using 5 gallon propane bottles for 20 years with a tree on top. Hose out of tree for BBQ and another hose for two burner Coleman grill. And a propane light on top of the tree.
Another 5 gallon bottle is used with a Little Buddy Heater, but I have not had to us it since 2015.
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Thanks Ghost for posting video! We ran all our propane stuff off the tree with hoses for years as well. The old hoses began cracking so what the heck we will get new hoses.......... Get the Buddy hoses from Bi Mart and heck couple new heaters to. Couple seasons into it the same exact thing happened to one of the heaters noted in video. Seems there may be two different grad of hoses Buddy sells??? Maybe one hose with the elastisamers that plage the system and a hose that does not? Will need to check part numbers once back from elk camp!!! Thank God for our homemade redneck/hillbilly enginudeity fabricated deluxe woodstove! Weather's turning tomorrow.
Thank you I appreciate it.
I have been lucky the last 5 years. I have been Deer camping in a campground, that has electrical and water hookups. Only 20 miles from where I hunt.
My buddy heater has not been lit since. I will have to break it out and do some testing. :tup:
Also check out thread: Wall Tent Heater Source from 2016. Some more details about the issues.
Anytime! :tup:
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One guy in our camp showed up with Ozark wall tent from wall mart.
Looked real good for a cheaper option
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These guys were thick on my tent this year.
Northern conifer seed bug.
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One guy in our camp showed up with Ozark wall tent from wall mart.
Looked real good for a cheaper option
Pics ??? Or it didn't happen.........lol...
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Had billions of those seed bugs at our house in Northern ID this year. They dont smell great when you move them.
The turkeys love them though!
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Had billions of those seed bugs at our house in Northern ID this year. They dont smell great when you move them.
The turkeys love them though!
We always have a ton of those bugs in the ne corner. They are stinky little buggers.
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Just glad my wife did not know about them before we moved out here! Might have been a deal killer as she hates them
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The warm weather this past season got me thinking about solar lighting for my cook shack and tents.
Anyone using solar lighting in your tent. What’s your set up?
I have portable 80 watt panel for my Rv. Thinking of using it hunting too.
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https://www.bing.com/videos/search?&q=turkey+huntingin+wall+tent&view=detail&mid=99B8692DAC6A53C3701E99B8692DAC6A53C3701E&FORM=VDMCNR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dturkey%2Bhuntingin%2Bwall%2Btent%26FORM%3DVDRESM&ajaxhist=0&rvsmid=F9045961C0FF486F0B1DF9045961C0FF486F0B1D
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About four weeks before pulling out the wall tents for the first hunt this year. Turkey.
Can’t wait to get some nights in here.
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Looking for someone to repair my wall tent.
Got a 4 inch tear. Not sure how it happen.
Anyone got a place North of Seattle?
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Everett tent and
Awning…never has
Dissappointed
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Everett tent and
Awning…never has
Dissappointed
Well after watching a Davis tent repair video, I am going to patch it myself.
Got 1 & 2 up for Maintenance, nine days alone while the wife travel to visit our daughter. And good weather too.
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I want to get new eave rope for my 12x14x5 tent. Any idea how much I'll need?
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I have a 14x16 Davis, came with 20 ropes 10' long. Mine has 8 attachment points, 2 ropes per corner.
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That's helpful, thank you.
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Well, its getting to be that time of year when I break out the tent and try and improve camp life over the previous year.
This years improvements are not original ideas, but I finally made them to help out.
Tarp clamps from PVC pipe, and a hanging shelf from some scrap plywood and paracord.
The length of the PVC clips was limited to the height I could cut on my bandsaw. The gap was trial and error, I have some that are SNUG and a few that are going to hold.
The shelf is 4' long, and 16" deep with a cedar rip left over from my fence project. nailed and glued to the plywood.
I plan on making a few of these to have one for each hunter, and at least one in the kitchen too!!
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more pics of the PVC clamp
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Nice
Yep breaking out the tents this week.
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I know this has been awhile but to anyone who has a bloody nose that won't stop take a roll of tissue paper, toilet paper, whatever you've got and roll it up like a cigar, wet it slightly and put it under your top lip, it'll stop the worst of them. It's just using that pressure point. Needs to be a pretty good size though. Seen it work on a diabetic drunk that was bleeding like a stuck hog.
Also we keep a pan of water on the stove for moisture in the tent. My daughter gets bloody noses from the dry air sleeping in the wall tent with the wood stove blazing.
I am considering doing the same this year but also am doubting that we will be able to have a fire so might not work quite as well. No fun sleeping with tp stuffed up your nose. :o
No and when she gets them they are bad, big blood clots. She has the same issue at our cabin in the winter, the air is so cold and dry outside and then dry wood heat in the cabin. One step that we take is she puts Aquafor on a Q tip and coats the inside of her nostrils with that. That seems to help as well.
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For people that use wood stoves. Dampener or not. We have one but I'm thinking of taking it out. If you close it things in tent get smokey also bothers my breathing. I have a partner that likes to close it at night. Says it keeps the heat in.
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For people that use wood stoves. Dampener or not. We have one but I'm thinking of taking it out. If you close it things in tent get smokey also bothers my breathing. I have a partner that likes to close it at night. Says it keeps the heat in.
Damping the stove correctly will not result in smoke in the tent.
You're basically trying to slow the airflow through the fuel in the stove with a combination of the stove-pipe damper and the air intake holes so that the fuel still burns, but doesn't burn as hot and will last longer.
Get a good solid bed of hot coals, then FILL the stove to it's maximum capacity with large pieces of dry wood. Let it get ripping for a few minutes, then damp it down (not closed!) and leave enough of a slit in air intake to supply just enough air for an efficient burn. My outfitter sized Cylinder stove only needs a toothpick sized slit to provide enough O2 for long-term combustion. This will burn a long time with minimal soot build-up. If you damp it down to the point where it's just a lukewarm smudgepot (especially with wood that sucks), you're going to get a ton of soot buildup in the pipe like a clogged artery and your stove will burn like crap until you kill the stove and clean out the pipe.
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There was some chatter about Diesel heaters in tents on another thread. Thought it would be a good topic here.
I watched some videos on Diesel heaters and I find them intriguing but not ready to give up my wood stove to run one. I can see they would be great if you were hunting in an area with no wood supply.
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There was some chatter about Diesel heaters in tents on another thread. Thought it would be a good topic here.
I watched some videos on Diesel heaters and I find them intriguing but not ready to give up my wood stove to run one. I can see they would be great if you were hunting in an area with no wood supply.
My concern was odor and mess. I had also seen used motor oil drip systems and was concerned about odor and mess.
Curious if anyone has had luck with either.
At this point I don’t see myself every going away from my pellet stove.
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There was some chatter about Diesel heaters in tents on another thread. Thought it would be a good topic here.
I watched some videos on Diesel heaters and I find them intriguing but not ready to give up my wood stove to run one. I can see they would be great if you were hunting in an area with no wood supply.
My concern was odor and mess. I had also seen used motor oil drip systems and was concerned about odor and mess.
Curious if anyone has had luck with either.
At this point I don’t see myself every going away from my pellet stove.
We used a Nu-Way Diesel heater for many years, no odor. It was a drip system with a 1/2-gallon tank on the side. It was good for 8+ hours on one fill-up. The only issue way soot in the stack when be packed up camp.
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Do they attract moisture like Propane does?
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I just got one in the mail. Silvel Amazon heater. Kicks out good dry heat. Plan to use it at whitetail camp in a few weeks, but I'm currently trying to figure out a good power source for it. Leaning towards the deep cycle lithium battery, that can work well at cold temperatures.
I Jerry rigd the power source to a car lighter plug I got at o'reilly's, and bootlegged a bigger fuse so it wouldn't blow out on warming up the glow plug.
Worked fine with the car running through the warm-up phase, which takes more power.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231104/0f1d1aa66ee5b3d701d3aed90f49627f.jpg)
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There was some chatter about Diesel heaters in tents on another thread. Thought it would be a good topic here.
I watched some videos on Diesel heaters and I find them intriguing but not ready to give up my wood stove to run one. I can see they would be great if you were hunting in an area with no wood supply.
I use a Space Heater Arctic stove. It's actually pretty amazing. Small in size, I unzip the stove spot in the floor of the tent, and put it on an old heat blanket, (the ones we use at work when cutting/welding around sensitive materials). With no legs, it will heat the tent almost to the floor. It will burn wood, coal, 3 or 4 different grades of jet fuel, kerosene (#1 diesel, or stove oil, (#2 diesel). I have a squirt bottle of fuel so I don't have to use the little cup to start the fire. I also have some good rubber gloves that I use when starting, or fueling it. Depending on how hot it's cranked up, it burns about 1 1/4 gallon of diesel per night. I usually fire it up right when we get back to camp, so it runs about 10-12 hours a day. If I can find pictures I'll post them. It is a military stove made by Hunter. There is a military video on YouTube somewhere too. I hang little battery operated fans above our boots at night, so they are warm and dry in the morning, along with all our clothing.
At the price of off-road diesel, it's worth it to me to not have to bring firewood, or a saw/gas/bar oil/file/bar wrench/extra chain and then go find firewood when I should be scouting or hunting. I used to fall timber, so my only saw is somewhat large, and takes up quite a bit of room. (066 Stihl with 36" Windsor bar). Great old saw, but the older I get, the less I like packing around.
Two cans of diesel for the Hunter SHA, and we are warm for 10 days, and nights. I've never burned any of the other fuels in it. I think it would burn out in a few years if one used wood all the time.
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Looking foreword to getting back in the tent.