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Title: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 05, 2015, 07:47:14 PM
Well itching to get out and try out my new 10X12 wall tent and Three dog stove. But with work,family and weather just cant get away right now. So I set down today and scanned every wall tent and stove thread on here up to page 57.

Lots of good info. But thought, sure be great if all those great ideas were on one thread. :drool:

Seems like a lot of guys took up wall tents in the past five years on here. So what is your best wall tent or wall tent stove tips? After the purchase.

What did you learn after you bought your tent and used it a while?

Maybe we can help the new guys who are thinking of buying one. 

Lets try to only address canvas wall tents and stoves you can use in them.

Maybe this could become a sticky at the top of the page for easy reference by new Wall Tenters.


Tip....Never ever put your tent away wet.



Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on July 05, 2015, 09:20:44 PM
Will be following!

I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.

There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.

Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.

Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.

A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: rtspring on July 05, 2015, 09:43:48 PM
Always buy bigger than what you think you need.

Get a 6-8 foot 1/2 piece of pipe, hang it from your rafters down about a foot from both ends .  Makes a perfect clothes line..  Bring hangers and hang wet clothes up
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Bigshooter on July 05, 2015, 09:49:34 PM
Always buy bigger than what you think you need.

Get a 6-8 foot 1/2 piece of pipe, hang it from your rafters down about a foot from both ends .  Makes a perfect clothes line..  Bring hangers and hang wet clothes up

 :yeah:

And make sure it is dry before you put it away.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 05, 2015, 09:58:39 PM
Always buy bigger than what you think you need.

Get a 6-8 foot 1/2 piece of pipe, hang it from your rafters down about a foot from both ends .  Makes a perfect clothes line..  Bring hangers and hang wet clothes up

Now that's a good idea.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 05, 2015, 10:00:10 PM
Will be following!

I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.

There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.

Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.

Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.

A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.

What stove?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Crunchy on July 05, 2015, 10:00:46 PM
Will be following!

I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.

There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.

Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.

Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.

A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.

Never cook inside of your tent because everything that is in it will smell like what you cooked.

Dig a trench around your tent to keep rain water from coming inside.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 05, 2015, 10:08:51 PM
My tent has a snap in floor. I wanted to protect it from sparks out front of stove.
Looked at several options and decided on a flexible semi ridge mat for under you BQ.
This one is spark resistant and about 3 ft square. Figure to just load it flat in bed of my truck. Has a hole for a handle.

Another thing I came up with. I am going to set the stove up in the tent at home on the mat. Once everything is located as it should me. I am going to mark the location of the mat on the tent floor with a sharpie. Also mark the locTion of stove legs on mat.
That should speed upset up in camp.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 05, 2015, 10:21:33 PM
Will be following!

I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.

There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.

Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.

Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.

A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.

Never cook inside of your tent because everything that is in it will smell like what you cooked.

Dig a trench around your tent to keep rain water from coming inside.

Yeah my plan is to cook outside or in the group camps we have a cook shack.

I have never trenches around a tent mainly because I always use a rain fly that goes out away from the tent.
I made a tarp rain fly for my new tent with stove pipe cut out . It hangs 12 inches on back 6 ft on front. And 16 inches of each side.

Many guys don't use the tarp. I like it because it has always kept my tents cleaner and dry inside. It also in heavy rain channels water out away from tent sides.
I am confident my new tent is water proof because I hosed it down good and the water beaded and ran off. The fly just add more protection.

I also hang my fly differnt than most. It only May touch the ridge other wise it is 12 inches above the canvas. Allows good air flow and lets canvas breath.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 05, 2015, 10:52:15 PM
When I cut out my tarp for stove flap I lined it on all sides with this heat duck tape.
Figured it would ad extra strength.

I also added a flap of heavy vinyl to cover it if not using stove.(note shown)
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: toyman2 on July 06, 2015, 10:47:36 AM
Always stake it down, all the way around the bottom as well as ropes off the side.
2 years ago in a nasty rain and wind storm, I came back from a morning hunt to find my 12x14 tent 30ft away and upside down. I did have all the ropes staked down but the ground was to hard on part of it and couldn't get all of the bottom.
The other thing I do, for my floor I bought a tarp the size of my tent and fold 1/3 back under its self so the entry way and stove are dirt. This allows for me to have a place to take off boots or wet closes etc and not get my floor all nasty. I also have small chunks of carpet at the bed sides.
My wood stove has a 3 Gal water tank on it, I dig a cereal bowl size hole under the spout so the water can gather to seep into the dirt or a place to dump coffee or whatever.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Colville on July 06, 2015, 11:11:35 AM
Storage is always at a premium.  This only works for interior framed tents. I cut some plywood in 6 inch planks and slightly longer than the distance between 2 poles.  I then used a circle bit to notch out the plank (half circle) on one side where it then is lined up to two poles.  Drill holes on both sides of the plank for 550 cord and then hang them tied off above the cot in that space.  Nothing heavy, but headlamps, ammo, beanie hat, bowl n spoon etc.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Roost Run on July 06, 2015, 03:23:17 PM
If its the 1st time setting it up.  Wet it down with the hose once you get it staked down and let it dry on the frame.  It will fit your frame so much better after sitting rolled up for a year. Sounds weird I know but trust me
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 06, 2015, 05:53:42 PM
If its the 1st time setting it up.  Wet it down with the hose once you get it staked down and let it dry on the frame.  It will fit your frame so much better after sitting rolled up for a year. Sounds weird I know but trust me

I believe that. Read some where that canvas will Relax after a couple days.
Saw a video of a guy who stretched a tent 5-6 inches by puting blocks under.the legs every couple days an staking it tight.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on July 06, 2015, 07:03:38 PM
Will be following!

I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.

There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.

Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.

Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.

A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.

What stove?

I decided to go with a kni-co Alaskan Jr. Partly due to being on a budget. I read a lot between the four dog and kni-co stoves. The four dog seems to be superior, but I thought I'd try my luck with the kni-co. So we'll see. Tent is 10x14.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: RG on July 06, 2015, 07:35:48 PM
I second trenching the tent. I don't care what kind of tarp you have, when the big thunder storm soaker rain comes through, and it has to me multiple times over 35 years of wall tenting, you will think you are on the set of the movie "a river runs through it" if you don't trench at the edges of the walls.  This is especially true if there's any kind of uphill slope nearby.  Take my word for it.  If you have a floor that isn't completely waterproof it will get damp eventually.  Make the trench.  Also, bring mouse traps.  Nothing is more irritating than a mouse or chipmunk scratching around at 0200 after you hiked 10 miles today.  The "snap" and squeak is a very satisfying sound.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: muledeer78 on July 06, 2015, 08:04:48 PM
 :yeah:100 percent agree
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Netminder01 on July 07, 2015, 09:06:47 AM
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Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: birddogdad on July 07, 2015, 09:31:51 AM
post use DRY and store, I suspend in garage in bag with a sash of mothballs in each tent bag to keep out rodents or your tent can quickly get chewed up!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 07, 2015, 04:59:13 PM
I put chair rubbers on my tent legs to protect the sod cloth from downward weight.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: T Pearce on July 07, 2015, 06:55:39 PM
When using the wood stove, I cover the wall behind the stove with a mylar sheet. This reflects heat and keeps the wall cool. Mylar on the wall opposite the stove makes it feel like you have a second stove in the tent and you dont have to move the stuff you have hanging to dry.

I no longer use the stove mounted water heater, (too much steam) we have a 20 qt pot with spout and lid. Preheat on the camp chef then bring in for simmer if needed. A five gallon water jug (insulated) keeps warm water on hand for washing dirty fingers away from the tent.

Large cots have 18" of room under them for duffel bag storage.
Shovel a couple scoops of soil into the stove prior to using. This insulates the bottom metal.

Note... trenching is a good idea. Pay attention to drainage, I've returned to water flowing under the floor tarp due to the two track above us not having a diversion. Quick fix but I should have seen it coming. All stayed dry with the floor tarp on top the sod cloth.

When the weather cools down some the flame baffle is coming out of the new stove. It effects loading and restricts the burn.

Stake it down. As mentioned in another post. Watch for widow makers. Lodge pole thickets make good wind breaks and fit in the stove without splitting.

Edit to add: SECURE THE STOVE JACK FLAP and keep an eye on it. A friend burned his camp down due to if touching the stove pipe one season.

T
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 07, 2015, 07:13:16 PM
Mylar umm Good idea.

How many guys use something behind their stoves to protect the wall?

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: T Pearce on July 07, 2015, 07:57:09 PM
Mylar umm Good idea.

How many guys use something behind their stoves to protect the wall?


Ghost,
I use the mylar for a heat reflector first. The fact that the frost stays on the wall outside convinced me that it works very well for that. I have had the wood stoves and pipe glowing in an effort to dry things out and I believe the high temps can't be good for the canvas.

The mylar would prevent drying this portion of the wall too, so remember to take it down and let the walls dry prior to folding and storage.
T
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Axle on July 07, 2015, 08:18:02 PM
if the canvas isn't sealed, set it up when the weather will be warm and dry for a few days. Then take your garden sprayer and fill it with Thompsons original and spray it down good.
Then it will last much longer! Otherwise they can rot out real fast.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Jason on July 07, 2015, 09:52:17 PM
Mylar umm Good idea.

How many guys use something behind their stoves to protect the wall?
I had two stove jacks installed in my tent when I bought it from Davis, one just to the right and 2/3rds to the front and the other in the front right side wall. When i setup the stove to the use the stove jack in the side wall it does get really hot on the canvas and i starting using a sheet of aluminum to block the heat, but I found its easier to heat the whole tent with using less wood when the stove is in the center of the tent.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Shawn Ryan on July 08, 2015, 10:22:18 AM
If space is a premium--mine usually is--then getting stuff off the floor has helped.  The first and last photos are a simple system for hanging stuff (packs, bows, etc.).  The second 2 photos are a clothes rack that lets clothes dry by the stove and gets them out of the way.  I also use bright colored line/rope for staking out the walls to help avoid tripping/collisions.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Stein on July 08, 2015, 10:38:21 AM
I used scrap wood to make a nice looking gun rack that attaches with bolts to the end of one cot.  The other cot received a drying rack made from PVC.  Both projects were $0 out of pocket.

Bring/cut about 3x the amount of wood you think you need.

Bring good food to cook, with daylight during the winter months in the north you will have plenty of time after dark.  Also bring games to play.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on July 08, 2015, 10:43:38 AM
Anyone know where I can get a stove jack retro-installed in a tent and tarp?  I already own the tent and tarp, would be willing to send it out if needed but prefer in state.
Bravo, site sponsor, from Camas Washington works on all makes of tents to do repairs and modifications.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on July 08, 2015, 11:07:16 AM
Anyone know where I can get a stove jack retro-installed in a tent and tarp?  I already own the tent and tarp, would be willing to send it out if needed but prefer in state.
Bravo, site sponsor, from Camas Washington works on all makes of tents to do repairs and modifications.

Called them last week for stove jack install. Said he is pretty well booked up and busy thru October or somewhere close to there.

Beckel Canvas co in portland also does em. I'll b taking mine there tomorrow. They said 3-4 week turn around.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 08, 2015, 12:12:14 PM
Anyone know where I can get a stove jack retro-installed in a tent and tarp?  I already own the tent and tarp, would be willing to send it out if needed but prefer in state.

I ordered a stove jack on line and took it to my local upholstery guy for our cook shack.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on July 08, 2015, 12:16:40 PM
Anyone know where I can get a stove jack retro-installed in a tent and tarp?  I already own the tent and tarp, would be willing to send it out if needed but prefer in state.

I ordered a stove jack on line and took it to my local upholstery guy for our cook shack.
Good idea there, maybe a guy that does boat tops or something like that could get it done and be closer to you.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Blade on July 08, 2015, 12:42:58 PM
I use snap hooks on the end of my guy lines, tie a good permanent knot to the snap hook and then use the snap hook to attach to the grommet or in my case D ring on the eaves,  saves time setting up and is much easier than untying wet or frozen rope.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on July 08, 2015, 12:48:33 PM
I use ratcheting motorcycle straps as tie down ropes.  They get it really tight and if they loosen just a couple of clicks and you are tight again, no need to untie and retie the ropes.  I just bought 5 four packs at Big Lots for $7 or $8 a four pack.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Shawn Ryan on July 08, 2015, 01:12:17 PM
I use snap hooks on the end of my guy lines, tie a good permanent knot to the snap hook and then use the snap hook to attach to the grommet or in my case D ring on the eaves,  saves time setting up and is much easier than untying wet or frozen rope.

Or just leave the lines tied (permanently) to the D ring/eve end with a bowline hitch and put a taught line hitch on the stake end that can be adjusted when things loosen up.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 08, 2015, 06:29:24 PM
My tent came with eve grommets and reinforced plastic eve loops.

I tied a bowline loop on end of each guy rope than snapped in a carabiner.
At set up or take Dow I just snap the guy lines on and off as needed.
The other end has the loop created by the tensioner. I just slip that over my metal stakes.

Things loosen up I just adjust the tensioner.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 09, 2015, 10:23:54 PM
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Canvas+Wall+Tents&Form=VQFRVP#view=detail&mid=0F67C5279BDA23177EB70F67C5279BDA23177EB7
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 10, 2015, 11:42:27 PM
Who uses a propane lantern in their wall tent?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on July 11, 2015, 08:32:42 PM
Who uses a propane lantern in their wall tent?
I have a row of construction lights down the center of my tent that I run off of a generator.  I also hang two battery powered fluorescent lanterns for temporary use. The construction lights are what I use at night for dinner, the lanterns are for first thing in the morning and stoking the fire in the middle of the night.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 11, 2015, 08:42:15 PM
I have never used a propane lantern in my. Tents. I have used a big buddy.

Our cook shack which is a Costco canopy we use two lanterns on trees in there.

But in my sleep tents I have only used battery lights.

I often put a lantern on a tree about 5 ft in front of the tent. And the glow from that lights up the tent some.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 3dvapor on July 11, 2015, 08:47:26 PM
I use a homemade gravity feed pellet stove.  No cutting or splitting wood in my camp!  I have to admit though sometimes its hard to beat a good woodstove.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 11, 2015, 08:54:20 PM
Wow
What's that baby weigh?
How many pellets you go through in a week.?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 3dvapor on July 11, 2015, 09:02:15 PM
Weighs about 40lbs maybe and goes thru about a bag every 2 days.  I probably buy 5 to 6 bags for a 2week period.  Clarry made the first generation but didnt do well in higher elevations.  I nearly have it perfected.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: T Pearce on July 11, 2015, 10:06:49 PM
Who uses a propane lantern in their wall tent?
The new LED lanterns are my new fav for inside the tent.
Propane in the cook shack.

Three months to go. I can hardly wait.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: HoofsandWings on July 12, 2015, 08:02:12 AM
I use that green astroturf found in hardware stores. Two side by side strips. One shorter so there will be bare ground under the stove.
I put sand and gravel at the bottom of the stove so the bottom does not get hot. Also adds weight so it does not tip. My water heater does not steam. I cook on the stove. I guess the items I cook are not very smelly and there is plenty of ventilation. I set out a bucket with a wire and empty roll of toilet paper covered in peanut butter and filled with a few inches of water. It cuts down the mouse problem. I put tarps on the roof with a cutout for the stove jack.
I have 5 foot high sidewalls so all of the space is utilized. Folding camp bed works great. My personal preference is a rope along the ridge tied to trees. The tent poles are at the entrance and back of the tent. The rope is used to hang clothes to dry and works great in high winds.
And I bring a garden rake along to rake the ground where the tent is to go. When I expect rain or snow, I bring a welcome mat at the entrance.
Kindling is stored behind the stove as is some larger stuff. I use a double bladed axe that is real sharp and I tape one blade. When the other blade dulls, I take off the tape and use that blade. The tent poles are long dowels found in lumber stores. The side poles are from the lumber yard and are cut to length. I put a nail at one end and put it in the grommets.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 12, 2015, 09:28:43 PM
I lay down a tarp over top of sod cloth. Than snap in floor. 2x4 floor mats up the center to catch any dirt. And those locking foam pads next to the cots for your feet.

Straw out side the door. For those bare foot calls at night.

I also have a motion sensing light near the door. If you get up at night it comes on and lights the door up.

One out side too.

Use solar lawn lights around camp to mark hazards and the path to the out house.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: HoofsandWings on July 12, 2015, 09:40:54 PM
I remember some hunters who thought straw was a great idea and put it on the floor. They put their sleeping bags on the straw and
thought it was great until the mice discovered the straw. There were dozens that ran over the straw, their sleeping bags and their faces.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ipkus on July 13, 2015, 10:11:35 PM
Most of my 25+ years in wall tents are late season, or high altitude where rodents are not normally an issue.  Several things we do have already been mentioned.

1.) Straw, around the base of the outside of the tent, is a huge insulator.  The colder it is the more it matters.  About 1 1/2 bails for a 12x14' tent.

2.) Tarp over the tent.  Cut a hole for the stove pipe.  It really helps keep heat in the tent, and snow does not build up/slides off easily.

3.) We run a 5 gallon propane bottle outside the tent with hose up to the rafter to two lanterns inside.  The fittings will start to freeze up in cold weather without a little assistance.  A lighter to the outside of them for 30 seconds cures the problem.

4.) In tents with internal frames, parachute cord can be tied at multiple heights across the tent to hang things from.

5.) Astroturf is the best flooring I've found for a wall tent.  It used to be completely waterproof, and we've set the tent up on 1'+ of compact snow before and had dry feet the whole week.  On newer versions the coating on the bottom isn't as thick and often isn't sealed/waterproof.  Nothing a can or two of FlexSeal can't cure!  At the end of the season, hang it up, hose it off, let it dry.  It also handily stores all of our tent poles, we roll them up like burritos.

6.) A $20 set of plastic shelves(4' tall, 3/4 shelves) gives you tons of storage space for all your kitchen stuff.

7.) Supplement your wood stove with charcoal when it gets really cold.  It's cheap, and burns extremely well and warm through those long November nights.



Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on July 14, 2015, 07:24:58 AM

7.) Supplement your wood stove with charcoal when it gets really cold.  It's cheap, and burns extremely well and warm through those long November nights.
I have never heard of this, I will have to give it a try and see how it works.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: skeeter 20i on July 14, 2015, 08:04:18 AM
This is the next idea I was toying around with doing.  I found this on the good ol' google last night.  The owner used a dimmer switch and a deep cycle battery.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: skeeter 20i on July 14, 2015, 07:47:23 PM
I also spray paint my fittings which makes it easier to set up especially if I have "help"
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 15, 2015, 06:26:51 PM
I did much the same thing only I used different colored electrical tape.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Buzz2401 on July 16, 2015, 05:45:57 AM
I've been using a inverter and a deep cycle battery for years.  Just hit a switch and you have light. No noise and plenty of light.  We use a 25w flouro bulb and get about a week before battery needs recharge. 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ballpark on July 16, 2015, 07:19:54 AM
I use a 3' x 3' piece of 1/4" cement board(lite) to sit my stove on, takes up no space.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on July 16, 2015, 09:28:05 AM
I did much the same thing only I used different colored electrical tape.
:yeah:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 16, 2015, 09:25:05 PM
I've been using a inverter and a deep cycle battery for years.  Just hit a switch and you have light. No noise and plenty of light.  We use a 25w flouro bulb and get about a week before battery needs recharge.

Got a photo of each part?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 16, 2015, 09:29:23 PM
In our cook shack we took a truck cargo net with carabiners and streached it out along the inside ridge about 4 feet wide.
We throw bread,buns and paper up there to keep away from critters. You could do the same in your wall tent I think.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: farmin4u_98948 on July 16, 2015, 10:30:16 PM
Great info.    Thanks
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 17, 2015, 08:46:17 PM
So the question came up tonight from a friend who is getting ready to order a stove for his wall tent.

How important is it to have the stove pipe above the ridge of the tent?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ipkus on July 17, 2015, 09:18:57 PM
The most important thing is to get it high enough that you don't get ember burns on the tent when you really stoke it up or burn some lively wood.  As long as it's over 2.5-3' above where it comes through the tent shouldn't have any issues.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 18, 2015, 03:16:22 PM
Has any one ever had the smoke stack come loose in the wind?
If so where did it disconnect? At the stove? One of the joints?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Miles on July 18, 2015, 03:21:20 PM
Has any one ever had the smoke stack come loose in the wind?
If so where did it disconnect? At the stove? One of the joints?

Never have, but I use some small screws on each section.  Better safe then sorry.  Here's a picture of my set-up and I've never had hot embers burn holes in the tent.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: pd on July 18, 2015, 10:05:01 PM
Mylar umm Good idea.

How many guys use something behind their stoves to protect the wall?

Most of you guys will hate this answer.  I know of an elk camp that uses an old asbestos board.  Don't hate on me.  It really works.  Just don't scratch & breath.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 18, 2015, 10:22:49 PM
I bought this BQ mat that is fire resistant for under my stove at Lowes.
Thinking about buying another to hang from the eve rail behind the stove.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 18, 2015, 10:31:24 PM
So the question came up tonight from a friend who is getting ready to order a stove for his wall tent.

How important is it to have the stove pipe above the ridge of the tent?


My friend posed the question to the owner of the wall tent shop.

He replied..........
THE WIND FLOW DOESNíT REALLY MATTER, IT IS THE PREVAILING WIND Ė IF THE WIND IS ALWAYS BLOWING AWAY FROM THE RIDGE LINE THEN NO PARTICULAR BIG DEAL Ė STOVE PIPE HEIGHT NEEDS TO BE ABOVE RIDGE IF THE WIND MAY BLOW THAT WAY, THUS HAVING THE RIDGE CATCHING THE SPARKS, ETC. HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THE COOLING

SCREWS NOT NECESSARY

Someone on another forum posted that having your pipe above the ridge caused cooling in the pipe.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Jason on July 18, 2015, 11:08:18 PM
Has any one ever had the smoke stack come loose in the wind?
If so where did it disconnect? At the stove? One of the joints?
Mine did two seasons ago during west side rifle elk. Drove into camp and noticed the stove pipe was missing coming out the top of my tent, opened up the door, stepped back and took a couple deep breaths and ran inside and dragged the stove out. Windy as hell that day, It came apart at the joint going through the stove jack, the rest of the pipe stayed together inside and smoked out my tent and lucky enough it didn't do to much damage to the roof of my tent since the area around the stove jack is reinforced and I had the stove dampened way down, everything smelled like smoke real bad  :'( in years past I would screw each section together but quit doing it a few years prior to this happening  :bash: After that lesson it all gets a screw.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: j_h_nimrod on July 18, 2015, 11:10:06 PM
So the question came up tonight from a friend who is getting ready to order a stove for his wall tent.

How important is it to have the stove pipe above the ridge of the tent?


My friend posed the question to the owner of the wall tent shop.

He replied..........
THE WIND FLOW DOESNíT REALLY MATTER, IT IS THE PREVAILING WIND Ė IF THE WIND IS ALWAYS BLOWING AWAY FROM THE RIDGE LINE THEN NO PARTICULAR BIG DEAL Ė STOVE PIPE HEIGHT NEEDS TO BE ABOVE RIDGE IF THE WIND MAY BLOW THAT WAY, THUS HAVING THE RIDGE CATCHING THE SPARKS, ETC. HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THE COOLING

SCREWS NOT NECESSARY

Someone on another forum posted that having your pipe above the ridge caused cooling in the pipe.

I don't think having the pipe above the ridge, a foot or two anyway, causing cooling is any concern.  My recollection is that you want the stack about 2' above the peak of a structure for optimum pipe draw/stove performance.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Miles on July 19, 2015, 07:34:27 AM
You can see how far mine sticks above the ridge, and I've never had any problems with the stove pipe cooling and/or not pulling very good.   In fact sometimes it will sound like a damn torch when you open the vent/door cause it's pulling so hard.   

Again, putting a few small screws in each section is cheap insurance.  I use the same holes year after year, and just put the screws in a sealed container in the stove for storage when camp is packed up.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on July 19, 2015, 08:37:49 AM
Tagging.  Great thread.  :tup:   I have a 12x12 with 4 ft walls.  Just got the 4 dog stove with the water tank, table, and two elbows as my hole for the stove comes out one of my doors.  should be here this week.  Will put my tips in after I tinker w it.    Do wood stoves apply to a burn ban?  and does national forest in Idaho have a burn ban in sept? 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: royalbull on July 19, 2015, 01:19:58 PM
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Has any one ever had the smoke stack come loose in the wind?
If so where did it disconnect? At the stove? One of the joints?




our stove pipe came loose one year over on Glass Ridge in the Nile unit usually lash it down at the stove but that year we set up at midnight and got lazy woke up a few hours later with a smoke filled tent came off right at the stove, wind was blowing pretty hard, now its always lashed down no matter what time it gets set up, I've added a 4' section of pipe for 8' total above the elbow where it goes out my side wall the thing burns great, I also lay a tarp down in the tent cut out for stove and use 3- 6'X8' indoor outdoor carpet sections for in front of the cots, I used to have a welding blanket under my stove but found it was just easier to cut out a section of the tarp, I also cover my tent with a tarp mainly so the snow slides off easy if we get dumped on, I use battery lanterns and I never cook in the sleep tent 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: lewy on July 19, 2015, 01:23:26 PM
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Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: JJB11B on July 19, 2015, 02:45:27 PM
Question, If you wall tenters go out during the early season do you have a different tent? seems like a wall tent could get pretty hot in Sept. on the east side.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Jason on July 19, 2015, 05:16:44 PM
Question, If you wall tenters go out during the early season do you have a different tent? seems like a wall tent could get pretty hot in Sept. on the east side.
I use the same tent, I have a screen door on the front and screened window in the back of the tent.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 19, 2015, 05:48:06 PM
Tagging.  Great thread.  :tup:   I have a 12x12 with 4 ft walls.  Just got the 4 dog stove with the water tank, table, and two elbows as my hole for the stove comes out one of my doors.  should be here this week.  Will put my tips in after I tinker w it.    Do wood stoves apply to a burn ban?  and does national forest in Idaho have a burn ban in sept?

In my area, Skagit County there is a total ban on anything that creates a ember or spark. Even in the NF.
Propane ok , wood or charcoal no way.
Unless your only source of heat at home.

My stove sitting waiting for the break in burns. Was 90 plus in Mount Vernon today.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 19, 2015, 05:54:49 PM
Question, If you wall tenters go out during the early season do you have a different tent? seems like a wall tent could get pretty hot in Sept. on the east side.
I use the same tent, I have a screen door on the front and screened window in the back of the tent.

Same here,but I always set up my tents in the shade just for that reason. A tarp stretched over your tent in the shade only touching the ridge and above the eves aids cooling by a lot. Still going to be sleeping on top of the sheets in this weather.

They do make tent fans. Anyone use one?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 24, 2015, 12:07:50 AM
When you consider the price of a wall tent these days and other gear.
This just might be worth it.


http://campingalarms.com/
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Miles on July 24, 2015, 05:16:01 AM
Question, If you wall tenters go out during the early season do you have a different tent? seems like a wall tent could get pretty hot in Sept. on the east side.
I use the same tent, I have a screen door on the front and screened window in the back of the tent.

Same here,but I always set up my tents in the shade just for that reason. A tarp stretched over your tent in the shade only touching the ridge and above the eves aids cooling by a lot. Still going to be sleeping on top of the sheets in this weather.

They do make tent fans. Anyone use one?

I picked a tent with doors on each end for this reason.  It's easy to open each end up and get some air flow if needed.   If the option is here to have a door on each end, I would take it.   If one zipper fails during a hunt, you could always velcro/tie it up and use the door on the other end.   It's also nice having the option of putting the stove in the "back" of the tent, or the "front". 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on July 24, 2015, 10:02:06 AM
That's a good tip there.  I might modify mine to have two doors.  Would open it up a ton with two awnings set up on each end.  I just got my four dog stove in the mail with water tank and table!!!  Thing is slick!   :IBCOOL:  can't wait for elk camps this year.  Three differnt elk camps planned. More than any year yet.  Three planned means I'll hunt three to four multi day trips and a lot of weekends.  Can't wait.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 28, 2015, 11:48:36 AM
Has any one ever had the smoke stack come loose in the wind?
If so where did it disconnect? At the stove? One of the joints?

Never have, but I use some small screws on each section.  Better safe then sorry.  Here's a picture of my set-up and I've never had hot embers burn holes in the tent.

So looking at your Ridge Tire down out the front. Is that line in a grommet?
And if so how are you attaching. Knot inside?

Mine has a grommet front and back but I have been coming out the ridge pole hole and tying .
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 28, 2015, 12:00:34 PM
Picked up this light for in my tent at Lowes.
All the light you would need.

3 D Cells

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: sureshotpaleface on July 28, 2015, 12:05:27 PM
Wish i had the time to mess with my new to me wall tent...darn graveyard this summer and kids sports is gonna have me scrambling...don't like that feeling all ready!!..😡

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Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on July 28, 2015, 01:42:35 PM
Has any one ever had the smoke stack come loose in the wind?
If so where did it disconnect? At the stove? One of the joints?

Never have, but I use some small screws on each section.  Better safe then sorry.  Here's a picture of my set-up and I've never had hot embers burn holes in the tent.

So looking at your Ridge Tire down out the front. Is that line in a grommet?
And if so how are you attaching. Knot inside?

Mine has a grommet front and back but I have been coming out the ridge pole hole and tying .
Not sure on his but mine has a grommet and that is what I use.  I have the high wind package on my Bravo so I am not worried about tearing the grommet out.  Tying to the inside frame would work also I guess, never thought of that.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 28, 2015, 08:38:28 PM
Well in Miles photo it looks like his ridge rope is coming straight out the top. If he has a grommet he must be trying a knot on inside or using something to anchor it.

On mine I have a grommet and I put the rope though tha out the ridge pole hooded opening and tie a knot.

Been playing with other options in my head.

I wouldn't tie to the frame because in heavy wind I think it's better to have the tent free floating over the frame.

With the tent well staked and all guy lines tight the frame is Locke in place.

:twocents:
Here a couple pics of my current rigging.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 29, 2015, 09:23:27 PM
BQ Matt from Lowes under stove.
Used marker to mark for for faster set up.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 29, 2015, 09:44:20 PM
You can have some fun.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on July 30, 2015, 09:06:36 AM
 :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 01, 2015, 10:04:15 AM
As noted on stove thread . Going to need more protection under stove to feel safe.
BQ Matt is conducting heat. And is too hot to touch.

Going to have to have something else under it.

Ummmm need another Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: JJB11B on August 01, 2015, 02:35:05 PM
Have you tried putting an emergency foily blanket down over the matt to reflect the heat away?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 01, 2015, 10:16:03 PM
Have you tried putting an emergency foily blanket down over the matt to reflect the heat away?

No

But that's not a bad idea.

I think it would be ok if raised it one or two inches to create a air pocket.

Ummmm thinking.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Blade on August 03, 2015, 09:28:48 AM
I use a welding blanket, as others have said on here.  They are cheap and compact.  I double it up and leave a generous amount out front to catch any sparks or embers that my escape when the door is open.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: T Pearce on August 08, 2015, 08:25:45 AM
Have you tried putting an emergency foily blanket down over the matt to reflect the heat away?



No

But that's not a bad idea.

I think it would be ok if raised it one or two inches to create a air pocket.

Ummmm thinking.

My floor is cut 4' from the corner. I fold this back. I use a shovel under the stove legs to level after setup. Mylar under the stove..... haven't tried that. I normally rake to clean ground and shovel some in if hole is too deep after raking.

This emergency blanket trick is something I've been using for over 20 years. It's amazing how something so thin completely insulates the tent wall.

When not using, it gets rolled up and stashed in the Chuck box. They're small and light.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: T Pearce on August 08, 2015, 08:32:59 AM
When setting up, we chainsaw disc (1/2"thick) for leveling cots and tables. The bigger the disc... the less likely to slip off.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 08, 2015, 05:24:40 PM
When setting up, we chainsaw disc (1/2"thick) for leveling cots and tables. The bigger the disc... the less likely to slip off.

We usually have 3 inch squares with us branded with the camp logo. To level tables and cots.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: T Pearce on August 08, 2015, 07:38:37 PM
Looks good.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: T Pearce on August 08, 2015, 07:44:27 PM
Ghost,
I have to ask. How did your camp get its name?
T
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 08, 2015, 08:29:10 PM
Ghost,
I have to ask. How did your camp get its name?
T

Well back In the start late 80s. We didn't have a name . We would put out a bunch of Jack O Lanterns so people got calling us Punkin Camp. That didn't really stick.
Some other camps back than around our hunting area had names couple even had signs.
There was John Deere Camp up Poorman Crk, Sheep Creek Camp and Owl Camp up Little Bridge Creek.

We decided we needed a name. Ummmmm
I use to bring hunting magazines to read to camp. One day I am reading this article about bears titled something like " Black Ghost of the Forests"
Than I saw another one about elk that was Ghosts of the Timber.

Well it struck me that all the animals we hunted were at times like ghosts.
So I said instead of deer or elk camp , grouse or bear, let's call it Ghost Camp.

Than we stared looking for a crest,or logo, or avatar. I asked my wife to draw us a ghost some were kind of scary looking. But in the end the ghost you see today drawn by my wife became our sign.

Than came,shirts,hats,chits,flags and business size cards. Every were we travel to hunt we leave chits or cards In Restaurants with our generous tips. Letting restaurants know that hunters are part of their customer base.

At the Wood Shed in Eagle Rock and in Twisp there are waitresses that collect the chits or cards we leave. With the names of the guys who were there,the year and animal hunted.
We have been told that waitresses have even argued over us when we come in because they wanted us seated in their section.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 08, 2015, 08:30:03 PM
 :jacked: :jacked:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: T Pearce on August 08, 2015, 09:08:00 PM
Ghost,
I have to ask. How did your camp get its name?
T

Well back In the start late 80s. We didn't have a name . We would put out a bunch of Jack O Lanterns so people got calling us Punkin Camp. That didn't really stick.
Some other camps back than around our hunting area had names couple even had signs.
There was John Deere Camp up Poorman Crk, Sheep Creek Camp and Owl Camp up Little Bridge Creek.

We decided we needed a name. Ummmmm
I use to bring hunting magazines to read to camp. One day I am reading this article about bears titled something like " Black Ghost of the Forests"
Than I saw another one about elk that was Ghosts of the Timber.

Well it struck me that all the animals we hunted were at times like ghosts.
So I said instead of deer or elk camp , grouse or bear, let's call it Ghost Camp.

Than we stared looking for a crest,or logo, or avatar. I asked my wife to draw us a ghost some were kind of scary looking. But in the end the ghost you see today drawn by my wife became our sign.

Than came,shirts,hats,chits,flags and business size cards. Every were we travel to hunt we leave chits or cards In Restaurants with our generous tips. Letting restaurants know that hunters are part of their customer base.

At the Wood Shed in Eagle Rock and in Twisp there are waitresses that collect the chits or cards we leave. With the names of the guys who were there,the year and animal hunted.
We have been told that waitresses have even argued over us when we come in because they wanted us seated in their section.

Thanks for sharing.
Good story..... we might consider a thread for this topic, I see alot of signs out there.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 09, 2015, 08:36:55 AM
Think I started one awhile back??
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 20, 2015, 06:28:21 PM
Anyone use a fan in their tent to keep cool or move heat?

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on August 20, 2015, 07:02:07 PM
Anyone use a fan in their tent to keep cool or move heat?


Where'd ya pick that one up at? I've been looking for a decent battery powered fan.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 20, 2015, 08:47:01 PM
K mart Burlington
In Sporting goods.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on August 20, 2015, 08:59:20 PM
K mart Burlington
In Sporting goods.

Thanks, I haven't looked around much. The sound of a fan going at night helps me sleep. Dang tinnitus. Helps to drown out some of the snoring in camp too.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 20, 2015, 09:03:16 PM
K mart Burlington
In Sporting goods.

Thanks, I haven't looked around much. The sound of a fan going at night helps me sleep. Dang tinnitus. Helps to drown out some of the snoring in camp too.

It has two speeds , blows real good. Folds flat to go back in box.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on August 21, 2015, 07:51:28 AM
Anyone use a fan in their tent to keep cool or move heat?
I use and Ecofan in my tent.  It sits on top of the stove in the back corner and works off of the heat of the stove.  As the stove heats up the blades start turning, no power or batteries, as the stove cools down the fan spins slower.  Doesn't make any noise and needs no power to operate. They have a bunch of different versions, gas, wood or pellet stove in different blades configurations for different volumes of air movement.

I love mine and would highly recommend one to anyone with a wall tent.
http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-95622685483394/caframo-ecofan-for-wood-stoves-black-and-nickel-57.gif
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 22, 2015, 03:49:21 PM
Anyone use a fan in their tent to keep cool or move heat?
I use and Ecofan in my tent.  It sits on top of the stove in the back corner and works off of the heat of the stove.  As the stove heats up the blades start turning, no power or batteries, as the stove cools down the fan spins slower.  Doesn't make any noise and needs no power to operate. They have a bunch of different versions, gas, wood or pellet stove in different blades configurations for different volumes of air movement.

I love mine and would highly recommend one to anyone with a wall tent.
http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-95622685483394/caframo-ecofan-for-wood-stoves-black-and-nickel-57.gif

Yes I considered one of those. But decide to try to kill two birds. Cooling fan for hot summer nights and move heat around fan on those cold winter trips.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: kevinlisa06 on August 25, 2015, 10:20:55 PM
Internal frames are so easy to set up and take the work out of set up in my opinion. You can also as previously mentioned dry clothes easier. I purchased one of those little fans to set on the stove to circulate the heat better. Always dug a trench on the uphill side of the tent just incase, yes I learned the hard way. We also always tapped the tent keeps it cleaner and helps keep more heat in. Always go bigger in wall tents and stoves in my opinion if you can. We got a larger stove just so we didn't have to get up in the night to stoke the fire.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: huntnfmly on September 20, 2015, 01:13:07 PM
Don't do this burn holes in your roof first time out lol but if you do roll a sock up and stick in hole it will keep rain out
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on September 20, 2015, 03:03:07 PM
How did that happen?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 20, 2015, 03:38:26 PM
Damn ...you are getting serious about this tent stuff ....Lmao ... I may need to buy a bigger tent next year ...I like the idea of the stove ...haha  I did set mine up for a week at Roosevelt ...Worked great so far !
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on September 20, 2015, 03:45:17 PM
Ya that is a good tent. I loved it. But I wanted something with a stove I could set up by myself.
A little a Buddy will heat your tent well.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: huntnfmly on September 20, 2015, 03:49:22 PM
How did that happen?
1 am stoking the stove looked up and there it was 2 big holes still burning had to throw water on them.i guess the spark arrestor missed 2 lol
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: spin05 on October 11, 2015, 03:42:09 AM
We run ice fishing shack LED rope lights . Hooked up to 2 6 volt Trojan deep cycles. Then a 1,000watt inverter to run TV ,sony play station for movies and a ipod speaker for sound. Run all that for nearly week before i need to charge. I want to add a small solar cell trickle charger thou.  We run a tarp down first same size as tent. Then indoor /outdoor carpet thru the whole thing except 4ft by the door. We run one og those cheap transmission drip pans from wally world under the stove to catch any embors out of the door. Built some cloths drying racks this year will see how they work come november. Never had to trench around tent yet.  Also read somewere about putting one screw in chimmney at top and one at bottom. Then spiral wire around it between them to hold the chimmney together in the wind.   
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 11, 2015, 04:00:09 AM
Nice

First official hunt in my tent now over. Muzzy elk.  Two of us just right. Added my grandson on another cot little crowded. No stove due to fire restrictions in the Naches.

Picked up one of those closet organizers that hang on rod at G sale. Worked great hanging from the side rail holding all the keys and stuff.

Off in three days for modern deer. Just me , So will be taking the new Three Dog and trying it out. I bought my tent for these kind of of solo or one buddy min. hunts.

Got the big camp on the trailer in the drive way ,going to empty out and take a  small camp. Might even take my new hunting ride. :chuckle: ( Another Thread)

Good Wall tenting all.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on October 11, 2015, 09:02:23 AM
Archery elk the four dog got me thirteen nights between two camps.  No elk but great times!  Good warm sleep too.  I need a bigger tent.  Has anyone ever just set two up length wise together?  Another 12x12 and that stove would heat both.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: swift on October 12, 2015, 06:28:23 AM
Yes many times it works great ! We set them 10 feet apart and tarp between makes a good cook/storage spot 😀 I now have frame pipes that go from one tent to the other but use to just rope one to the other to support tarp
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: haugenna on October 12, 2015, 07:25:03 AM
Good thread.

Two words. Propane oven.

We freeze precooked casseroles ahead of time in meatloaf containers in individual servings. Come in from the hunt, turn on the propane oven and pop in the meals. Do a few chores, hang up wet clothes, and are eating in 30 minutes. Fold up container and throw away. No dishes.

It has two burners on top if we need to boil some water.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: losdaddy7 on October 12, 2015, 07:25:27 AM
I picked up a hanging organizer at VV a few years ago for a couple bucks.  It wraps around my frame pole with velcro and provides great storage.  Most are canvas material and collapse for easy storage/packing.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 12, 2015, 07:40:13 AM
Good thread.

Two words. Propane oven.

We freeze precooked casseroles ahead of time in meatloaf containers in individual servings. Come in from the hunt, turn on the propane oven and pop in the meals. Do a few chores, hang up wet clothes, and are eating in 30 minutes. Fold up container and throw away. No dishes.

It has two burners on top if we need to boil some water.

Yeah a oven is nice ,we packed one for many years . Our old guy would come in half day when he got cold and make pies for us.  Havent taken it in the past few years too much stuff.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Gamblin Guy on October 12, 2015, 09:28:38 PM
Archery elk the four dog got me thirteen nights between two camps.  No elk but great times!  Good warm sleep too.  I need a bigger tent.  Has anyone ever just set two up length wise together?  Another 12x12 and that stove would heat both.

I have two 12x16's that I put together some years for archery elk.  I picked up the second one from a member here a few years ago, zippered doors on both ends of it so it butts up against my first one.  I'll see if I can find some pictures, makes it pretty nice having a kitchen/gathering area and a sleeping quarters.

I also made wooden boxes for the tents and the frames for storage/transportation, they double as tables in the tent after we set them up.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on October 14, 2015, 07:28:30 AM
Genius.  :yeah:  I hate being hunched over a tote to eat. 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: birddogdad on October 14, 2015, 07:45:00 AM
Archery elk the four dog got me thirteen nights between two camps.  No elk but great times!  Good warm sleep too.  I need a bigger tent.  Has anyone ever just set two up length wise together?  Another 12x12 and that stove would heat both.

I have two 12x16's that I put together some years for archery elk.  I picked up the second one from a member here a few years ago, zippered doors on both ends of it so it butts up against my first one.  I'll see if I can find some pictures, makes it pretty nice having a kitchen/gathering area and a sleeping quarters.

I also made wooden boxes for the tents and the frames for storage/transportation, they double as tables in the tent after we set them up.

love this wood box idea , should help with rodent issues in storage too.. would add mothballs in when stored. mice and rats hate mothballs...
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: birddogdad on October 14, 2015, 07:51:09 AM
Anyone use a fan in their tent to keep cool or move heat?

find that all my wet stuff dries much faster with a fan to circ the air...
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Gamblin Guy on October 14, 2015, 09:49:29 AM
Here's a pic of the two tents together.

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Here is a pic of how we use the storage boxes.  This was the year before I bought the second wall tent but the boxes for both are the same.  The long one against the back of the tent is the box for the frame, no fires during archery season so the tent heater sits on the box along with the propane boot dryer.

The square box on the right side is for the tent, flooring and the tarp that goes down under the flooring.  The propane stove/oven on the left is sitting on top of the box I built for it also.  Everything stacks nicely in the garage for storage, no mice, no moths etc.  I always make sure the tents are dry before they get packed up.

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Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: TheHunt on October 14, 2015, 10:03:56 AM
WOW, that is a nice camp.   
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on October 15, 2015, 06:21:30 AM
Yeah nice work.  I need Windows. Too dark in my tent .
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Gamblin Guy on October 15, 2015, 07:54:34 AM
I added a 6ft porch frame that can be used on both tents and then bought a clear 20x24 tarp that covers the tent and acts as the porch.

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I still need to add a second tarp that will cover both tents when I have them set up together, these guys have good prices on the clear tarps.

http://www.a1tarps.com/clear-tarps.html
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: bwhntr2819 on October 15, 2015, 02:52:19 PM
A question for everyone about drying your canvas tent before storing it.  I bought a Kodiak Canvas tent last year.  After using it for late archery elk in the rain I set it up in my garage and ran a heater and fan in it for several days.  It seemed pretty dry when I put it way, but when I used it this spring I found some small spots that must be mold.  Am I overreacting?  It doesn't seem like widespread mold.  Seems like it would be nearly impossible to completely dry a canvas tent used during the rainy cold season. 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: toyman2 on October 16, 2015, 09:15:21 AM
I hang mine from ropes I stretch across the shop and let it hang for 2 to 3 weeks.
I try to open the doors from time to time to let the moisture out
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: skeeter 20i on October 16, 2015, 09:32:15 AM
I bring mine into the house and use the living room and drape it all over the furniture for sometimes weeks if I don't get back to putting it away.  The wife absolutely loves it when I leave the wall tent in the living room.  It really works out well, try it once or twice and see.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: bwhntr2819 on October 17, 2015, 02:24:10 PM
Thanks for the replies. Sounds like I need to be more patient and let it hang longer.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on October 19, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Does anyone have a good idea for a solid floor material.  I've thought about heavy rubber stall mats but that's a lot of weight.  I considered sheet covering pallets with 1/4 inch plywood but once again its not a easy haul.  I would like to come up with something to give me a couple of inches off the ground that I can cover with a outdoor rug.  Maybe solid insulation panels with some kind of a backing that makes them less prone to poking and holes.  Any ideas?
I have a Bravo tent and ordered a heavy tarp floor for mine.  It is really durable and I put carpet over that and it works great.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: huntnfmly on October 19, 2015, 06:52:40 PM
I bought a tarp floor from Davis tents when I bought my tent works great
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: toyman2 on October 20, 2015, 09:00:02 AM
Don't be in any hurry letting your tent dry.
if it was a bad year, I set up my tent in the yard and hose as much of the dirt off as I can.
After a day or 3, I will take it down and hang it in the shop for a few weeks, if it is real bad I will run a fan to move air around.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 24, 2015, 10:03:04 PM
Well I did the same thing tonight. I set mine up in the drive way. Hosed all the loose dirt off it and put the three dog in it to help it dry. Than i take it to my walk in actic in the G and lay it out . About 60 up there all the time. twice a week I go up and flip it.

This was the first year using it and I made a error. I put a spark ares-tor on the pipe and soot built up on it. That is OK except it rained and the soot dripped on the tent. Think I have a stain for good. Will use a elbow next time.

Couple of clips like close pins works well to keep the store port flap up out of the way.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 24, 2015, 10:23:36 PM
Picked up this light for in my tent at Lowes.
All the light you would need.

3 D Cells

Tell you what I was out hunting 24 days and ran three of those lights, one in tent one outside tent ,one in kitchen and never changed the batteries.
 Much easier than propane lights and three times brighter.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: spin05 on October 25, 2015, 04:34:22 AM
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This was the first year using it and I made a error. I put a spark ares-tor on the pipe and soot built up on it. That is OK except it rained and the soot dripped on the tent. Think I have a stain for good. Will use a elbow next time.
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Speaking of spark arresters. I had the same problem i took my off and threw it away first time it got plugged.  I hear just run it strait and drill holes in the top 12-20in for burning and cooling the embers. But some states require a actual forest approved spark arrester.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 25, 2015, 10:14:05 AM
[quote
This was the first year using it and I made a error. I put a spark ares-tor on the pipe and soot built up on it. That is OK except it rained and the soot dripped on the tent. Think I have a stain for good. Will use a elbow next time.


Speaking of spark arresters. I had the same problem i took my off and threw it away first time it got plugged.  I hear just run it strait and drill holes in the top 12-20in for burning and cooling the embers. But some states require a actual forest approved spark arrest-er.
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Yeah heard that myself. I think I am just going to add a elbow to the top. I really don't worry to much about sparks, because I don't use paper or cedar which cuts down on the sparks.
Plus I camp where I can drive so usually a beat down camp spot.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: toyman2 on October 27, 2015, 09:45:30 AM
The spark arrestor is a novel idea, but they plug up to fast and in my opinion is a danger.
I only set up my tent for elk season, I don't even waist my time on a spark arrestor.

You shouldn't have to flip your tent, if it is hanging and can get air all around it just leave it.
Stains are part of the tent, there will be more to come.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 2MANY on October 27, 2015, 10:13:22 AM
I would pack an extra section of pipe before I packed a spark arrestor. They suck.
Also refrain from burning small branches as that is a huge factor in ember output.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 28, 2015, 10:21:43 PM
Anybody ever use any kind of cleaner on their tent?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Gamblin Guy on October 28, 2015, 10:49:04 PM
I have used oxyclean on stains.  I usually set it up in the yard in July/August when we are getting a few good warm days and hit mine with the pressure washer but I don't use any cleaner on the entire tent, just on the occasional stain.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 28, 2015, 11:01:53 PM
Any effect on water repelent ?

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Gamblin Guy on October 29, 2015, 06:49:46 AM
Not that I have noticed.  My tents were factory treated and I have never treated them with anything else. 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on November 28, 2015, 01:31:55 PM
Since I could never fold my tent small enough to get it into the canvas bag it came in . I switched over to using a high quality decoy bag with carry straps and waist band for transporting the tent. At home I un pack it and lay it over a rack in my upstairs storage room after it has been dried.

Makes it easy to transport to and from camp.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: BoomWhop on November 28, 2015, 01:45:02 PM
I put 400.00 down on a Bravo Wall tent and will soon have to decide on a size.  12x15 or 15x18? I know bigger is usually better but was wondering about weight and difficultly on solo hunts. (Plus cost)  Any thoughts? Late hunts with 2-4 people. 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on November 28, 2015, 02:01:36 PM
I put 400.00 down on a Bravo Wall tent and will soon have to decide on a size.  12x15 or 15x18? I know bigger is usually better but was wondering about weight and difficultly on solo hunts. (Plus cost)  Any thoughts? Late hunts with 2-4 people.

A  12x15 for one guy is a castle.

I would say look at what the realistic use is going to be. If you and maybe one other, A 12 X15 is plenty. Also are you going to cook in it? If so the tables and cook ware eat up some space.

Take your basic gear and set it up in your garage or drive way. cots, stove ect. Than measure it. Chalk out the 12 X15 .
If your plan is to be putting it up and down by yourself , 12X15 would be my limit. I went with a 10x12 just for that reason. Like being independent.
A lot depends on your age and patience level too. I am 64.
I know guys who put up bigger tents on their own.
But I wanted a set up I could run by myself for the rest of my hunting life. 

Remember the wood stove needs some dead space around it. Maybe three feet between cot and stove.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on November 28, 2015, 02:12:21 PM
I ran this set up during deer. Mild temps.
10x12 two guys and gear ,three dog stove.
Cooked under tarp on left.

Very comfortable for ten days.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: BoomWhop on November 28, 2015, 02:37:17 PM
Thanks so much. Yes long term will mean me setting it up alone. I am 47 but want to use this for many years. I just got a 4 dog stove in good shape on Craigslist for 100.00  :tup:  most times will be 2-3 guys the smaller tent would allow for a nice floor tarp or snow slide. 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: skeeter 20i on November 28, 2015, 02:39:41 PM
Here's the setup for my boys and I when all three of us go replace one of the cots with a bunkbed cot setup.  To give u an idea of room vs. stuff hope it helps its a 12x14 davis.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: BoomWhop on November 28, 2015, 10:24:58 PM
Yeah that helps... Looks like it is perfect for 2, or 3 with bunk beds.  Looks like getting 4 would be tight if you needed a stove.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: skeeter 20i on November 28, 2015, 11:00:12 PM
Yeah 4 would be tight.  We're actually going to add a cook shack off the front , I thought about adding a second smaller cook tent but I don't want to have to mess with a second source of heat to keep things from freezing.  I actually over sized my stove it's a four dog model which will be just right for the added cook shack.  With the tent being a 12x14 the four dog was too warm even dampered & using a pipe damper.  The trick for us was keeping the teenage hunters to keep cleaning up after themselves.   :bash:

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: skeeter 20i on November 29, 2015, 01:51:30 PM
Here's the other end without the woods stove.  I use a big buddy heater, fully expand the cook station and upgrade the table to a 6'.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on November 29, 2015, 02:19:19 PM
Does your big buddy heater keep it warm? I was thinking about going this route next year
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: haugenna on November 29, 2015, 03:42:23 PM
We have two big buddy heaters for a 12x14 wall tent. One is for a drying corner and one for heat. We shut them down to low for night time and stay very warm.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: skeeter 20i on November 29, 2015, 04:59:51 PM
They work great.  We've always just run one and it's been plenty.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on November 29, 2015, 05:10:32 PM
That's what I was hoping to hear....its nice to have a wood stove but getting up 2-3 times a night isn't much fun
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: jackelope on November 29, 2015, 07:52:26 PM

I put 400.00 down on a Bravo Wall tent and will soon have to decide on a size.  12x15 or 15x18? I know bigger is usually better but was wondering about weight and difficultly on solo hunts. (Plus cost)  Any thoughts? Late hunts with 2-4 people.

Go 15x18. That's the only way you'll be good with 4 guys.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: scoyoc5 on November 29, 2015, 08:03:22 PM
Sleep all night long with this set up..
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 29, 2015, 08:13:27 PM
That's two different stoves?  :dunno:
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Post by: scoyoc5 on November 29, 2015, 08:32:30 PM
Same.. I have a write up about it in another thread
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 29, 2015, 08:33:48 PM
Same.. I have a write up about it in another thread

Link?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: scoyoc5 on November 29, 2015, 08:35:56 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,170072.msg2449282.html#msg2449282
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: BoomWhop on November 29, 2015, 09:42:41 PM

I put 400.00 down on a Bravo Wall tent and will soon have to decide on a size.  12x15 or 15x18? I know bigger is usually better but was wondering about weight and difficultly on solo hunts. (Plus cost)  Any thoughts? Late hunts with 2-4 people.

Go 15x18. That's the only way you'll be good with 4 guys.

Thanks. I think after seeing the pics of 12x14 I will go bigger.  I really  appreciate all the input from the guys on the site,  especially the photos .
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Miles on November 29, 2015, 09:46:13 PM
I've got a 14x16 and we can fit 4 in comfortably.  Sometimes I wish I had a little smaller for when it's just myself and one other.  It's also easier to find spots to set up in treed locations with something a little smaller.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: skeeter 20i on November 29, 2015, 10:03:25 PM
Thats why i went 12x14 for 2 its easy to use and set up with 3 or 4 ill put up the cook shack which will free up the main tent to sleep up to 4 if needed.  From the time i shut the truck off i can have the 12x14 set up in 20 to 30 minutes.  Its a fine line between "comfortable" and too much stuff. 

Hope the pics helped visualize what will work best for you. :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on March 12, 2016, 05:55:28 PM
Itching to get out in my wall tent again. So thought I would get this thread fired up again.

Bought one of these to light my wood stove with. No more matches.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on March 12, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
Does anyone have a good idea for a solid floor material.  I've thought about heavy rubber stall mats but that's a lot of weight.  I considered sheet covering pallets with 1/4 inch plywood but once again its not a easy haul.  I would like to come up with something to give me a couple of inches off the ground that I can cover with a outdoor rug.  Maybe solid insulation panels with some kind of a backing that makes them less prone to poking and holes.  Any ideas?

Mine came with a poly snap in floor.i bought a brown 12x10 tarp which I lay on ground. Than snap in floor over that. Keeps the poly floor cleaner when we break camp.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on March 12, 2016, 06:17:56 PM
I always have some little coaster size squares in my tent gear. Made of wood or cardboard to put under cot feet. In case I am over some soft ground saves from punching a hole in the floor.


Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on March 12, 2016, 06:22:06 PM
A little straw out side the entrance keeps the mud and dirt down. And provides a clean place to stand when taking that 2 am leak. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: haugenna on March 12, 2016, 07:00:18 PM
A little straw out side the entrance keeps the mud and dirt down. And provides a clean place to stand when taking that 2 am leak. :chuckle:

That's what a wiiiiiiiiiiiiddddeeeee mouth Gatorade bottle is for
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: skeeter 20i on March 13, 2016, 08:41:08 AM
Itching to get out in my wall tent again. So thought I would get this thread fired up again.

Bought one of these to light my wood stove with. No more matches.

thats what we used last year and it works great :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on March 14, 2016, 03:29:33 PM
Itching to get out in my wall tent again. So thought I would get this thread fired up again.

Bought one of these to light my wood stove with. No more matches.

thats what we used last year and it works great :tup:
:yeah:  Been using one for a few years now, definitely the way to go.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ruttnbuck on March 14, 2016, 08:04:19 PM
Where looking to buy a tent here soon and seen the frame kits are priced pretty high but also seen you can use 1 inch emt conduit  for frame,  just wondering if 1 inch would be big enough because it looked like in some of the pictures here the frame poles where bigger then that . 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: thegeneral on March 15, 2016, 10:40:40 AM
16' x 20' Davis Tent with a Peak Stove on order should be here around end of the month.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on March 15, 2016, 10:52:56 AM
That's a great deal they are having right now!  I got the same set up on the way!  Cant wait to test it out this spring!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on March 15, 2016, 10:57:44 AM
Where looking to buy a tent here soon and seen the frame kits are priced pretty high but also seen you can use 1 inch emt conduit  for frame,  just wondering if 1 inch would be big enough because it looked like in some of the pictures here the frame poles where bigger then that .
Pretty sure my frame is made from at least 1 1/4" and I think it is 1 1/2".  I don't think I would go with 1", that seems awfully small.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Jason on March 15, 2016, 12:22:07 PM
Where looking to buy a tent here soon and seen the frame kits are priced pretty high but also seen you can use 1 inch emt conduit  for frame,  just wondering if 1 inch would be big enough because it looked like in some of the pictures here the frame poles where bigger then that .
Pretty sure my frame is made from at least 1 1/4" and I think it is 1 1/2".  I don't think I would go with 1", that seems awfully small.
1" EMT is plenty strong enough. I have a davis 16x20 and I run the 1" EMT, I thought the same thing when I bought it that theres no way that 1" emt pipe would be strong enough, but its plenty strong.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on March 15, 2016, 12:56:11 PM
Where looking to buy a tent here soon and seen the frame kits are priced pretty high but also seen you can use 1 inch emt conduit  for frame,  just wondering if 1 inch would be big enough because it looked like in some of the pictures here the frame poles where bigger then that .
Pretty sure my frame is made from at least 1 1/4" and I think it is 1 1/2".  I don't think I would go with 1", that seems awfully small.
1" EMT is plenty strong enough. I have a davis 16x20 and I run the 1" EMT, I thought the same thing when I bought it that theres no way that 1" emt pipe would be strong enough, but its plenty strong.
Good to know, thanks, :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ruttnbuck on March 15, 2016, 07:23:00 PM
Perfect thanks for the info,  I'll go with 1" . I think where going with a 16x14 tent from wall tent shop.com and they said they would send a cut sheet too make our own frame, so I thought that was nice on there part to at least give me the option.  Can't wait to get it and try it out this year.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 4fletch on March 16, 2016, 02:07:11 PM
Didn't read all the posts so if you add length to the ridge pole at the entrance cover it with a tarp you will have added covered space. A cooking area / storage
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: haugenna on March 16, 2016, 07:33:53 PM
Perfect thanks for the info,  I'll go with 1" . I think where going with a 16x14 tent from wall tent shop.com and they said they would send a cut sheet too make our own frame, so I thought that was nice on there part to at least give me the option.  Can't wait to get it and try it out this year.

With the dollar the way it is, I would be looking at Canadian manufacturers. Save 25-30% right out of the gate.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on March 17, 2016, 11:18:57 AM
Perfect thanks for the info,  I'll go with 1" . I think where going with a 16x14 tent from wall tent shop.com and they said they would send a cut sheet too make our own frame, so I thought that was nice on there part to at least give me the option.  Can't wait to get it and try it out this year.

With the dollar the way it is, I would be looking at Canadian manufacturers. Save 25-30% right out of the gate.

Any suggestions on manufacturers?  That's not a bad idea!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on March 19, 2016, 08:57:26 PM
http://capitalcanvas.ca/
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: pawpaw1934 on March 22, 2016, 06:38:44 PM
Lots of good suggestions here, but for any one who has not purchased a tent....contact Bravo Tents. There are no better constructed at any cost. Head and shoulders above all others. Don't take my post...look at them. Last bit of advice...buy 3 ft larger than you thought you needed and you, your kids, and your grand kids wont regret it. John at Bravo has the worst business model around. Build a product that lasts well beyond others, no built in failure area's, and something that will outlast all others if you take the most basic of care of it....
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Buzz2401 on March 22, 2016, 07:53:59 PM
 We have a 20x14 and a 12 x 14 and one has a wall exit stove pipe and one has a top stove pipe hole.  The side wall exit is harder to set up but it really limits the black particles and burns on the tent.  Also doesn't alow any water to drop down onto stove at night.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on April 18, 2016, 12:20:23 PM
Back to cleaning.
I see one vote for oxy clean on spots.

Anyone use anything else over the counter?

Got mine in the driveway right now and got a couple spots I would like to work on.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 21, 2016, 08:24:44 AM
Well with the good weather decided to get the tent up in the yard and work on those stains I got when it blew over in the drive way after a hunting trip.

I got some oxy clean spray and wet the spots down , soft brush, let sit for a hour. than rinsed off.

Did not remove completely but for sure lightened them up a lot. 

The stain were over a year old.   At first I could still see the spots like they were discolored. But after two days in the sun. That went away. I think the solution may be to have a bottle in my kit and hit the bad stains as they happen.  :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: lastmk8 on August 21, 2016, 12:25:05 PM
Ahh, the Wall Tent Thread, I miss mine, but it went to a young fella who will get much more use of it than myself, shifted over to Kodiak Canvas and smaller groups.  Lots of great ideas across this thread so I thought I'd share a couple of ours from years gone by.  Some are still applicable as we have a 10' X 20' Costco type portable garage for our kitchen tent that we run the wood stove in. 

Think our best modification was using some steel conduit and built a hanging "horseshoe from the ridge pole and secured to the eaves around the wood stove.  Man can that set-up dry clothes FAST.  Clothes, hats, gloves, packs, boots, you name it, we have hung it. 

Like the Cabelas Cot Trees for the cots, but they need modification also.  Product called "Gear Pockets" are perfect companion with the cot trees.  Vertical storage at the head or foot of the bed.  Holds all the undergarments, socks, gloves, T-shirts, etc. etc you have.  I like the nine pocket version, beats digging through your tote for these things.

Starting the wood stove.... always a chore after the third day in the rainforest.  But fear no more, one day while burning weeds around the homestead with the flamethrower torch, it hit me.....why in the heck wouldn't I take this to camp to start the wood stove or campfire in a November downpour.....???  I wouldn't, not anymore.  That "tool" has become one of the most useful in camp, so much so that we have named him TANK (I guess because he is attached to the propane tank).  Old faithful hasn't missed a camp in a number of years.

There are many other little things we do, but those three are pretty useful that I don't know that we would do without anymore.  I'll see if I can dig up any pics of any of it and throw them out here.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: lastmk8 on August 21, 2016, 12:38:29 PM
Found a couple.  Gear pockets, Conduit Clothes Dryer, Kitchen Tent with wood stove, and the Kitchen tent converted into sleeping quarters when someone blew a transmission in the RV going over the pass one year.... unloaded into a Uhaul trailer and headed for the mountains...
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: opdinkslayer on August 21, 2016, 12:50:01 PM
 Interested to know what everyone is using for lighting? We have used generator and electric lights before but am real interested in a 12v bat/led setup to eliminate the generator and the noise.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: lastmk8 on August 21, 2016, 01:00:22 PM
Interested to know what everyone is using for lighting? We have used generator and electric lights before but am real interested in a 12v bat/led setup to eliminate the generator and the noise.

Earlier in this thread a couple posts about 12V deep cycle set-ups, getting about a week of lighting before charge required.  I may look into that as well.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on August 21, 2016, 02:37:29 PM
I picked up a 400 watt inverter at a garage sale a few weeks back and I just got some led rope lights I'll be trying out with one of those big jump starter packs...I'm going to test it out and see how long it will run the lights before I need them
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: BoomWhop on August 21, 2016, 04:05:56 PM
So funny this thread came back to life today.  Just setup my bravo 12x18 for the first time today. 👍 My understanding is you are supposed to soak them when they are new to shrink them down. What a well built tent. 1st time up 1 hour 2 guys... 2nd time up 20 minutes one guy. (Painting the joints rocks).
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: haugenna on August 21, 2016, 09:59:44 PM
I picked up the Makita battery operated fan and lantern. They even have a battery operated coffee maker.

The light throws out some good light.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: follow maggie on August 21, 2016, 10:30:16 PM
If your tent shrinks, it's because you didn't take care of it. Anchor the bottom & eave to the ground tight, don't put it away wet, and it should never shrink. Assuming it's pre-shrunk canvas, of course, which I think all of them are, now.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 22, 2016, 11:21:34 AM
So funny this thread came back to life today.  Just setup my bravo 12x18 for the first time today. 👍 My understanding is you are supposed to soak them when they are new to shrink them down. What a well built tent. 1st time up 1 hour 2 guys... 2nd time up 20 minutes one guy. (Painting the joints rocks).

Make sure you stake it down well and allow it to completely dry. When you wet it down.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 22, 2016, 11:28:50 AM
So funny this thread came back to life today.  Just setup my bravo 12x18 for the first time today. 👍 My understanding is you are supposed to soak them when they are new to shrink them down. What a well built tent. 1st time up 1 hour 2 guys... 2nd time up 20 minutes one guy. (Painting the joints rocks).

At your peak, I don't see a rain cover where the ridge pole goes through or is it folded inside.

I would make sure a ridge line is attached front and back in those grommets, and the grommet pulled a little out  past the walls before wetting and su regular use to keep rain from leaking in or I guess a rain fly?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 22, 2016, 11:33:49 AM
So funny this thread came back to life today.  Just setup my bravo 12x18 for the first time today. 👍 My understanding is you are supposed to soak them when they are new to shrink them down. What a well built tent. 1st time up 1 hour 2 guys... 2nd time up 20 minutes one guy. (Painting the joints rocks).

At your peak, I don't see a rain cover where the ridge pole goes through or is it folded inside.

I would make sure a ridge line is attached front and back in those grommets, and the grommet pulled a little out  past the walls before wetting and su regular use to keep rain from leaking in or I guess a rain fly?

Here is mine.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: opdinkslayer on August 22, 2016, 12:34:29 PM
Does anybody have any idea a couple led shop lights used with a deep cycle battery/inverter would last as far as battery life goes?

 Also Ray Davis at Davis tents told me there was no need to wet the tent down and shrink it. We should have our new 14x16 Davis in a couple weeks and can't wait to spend 10 days in it chasing deer & elk in Montana.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on August 22, 2016, 01:03:04 PM
I know when I got my Bravo tent 10 or 15 years ago I was told to set it up loose on the frame, wet the inside and outside down and let it dry.

On my frame after I set it up I put colored electric tape on the joints and pipes to color code everything.  I was concerned about the paint rubbing off on the tent.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 22, 2016, 01:29:31 PM
Year I did the same with the electric tape.

Never heard of putting tent loose on frame. Everyone I know stakes them down so they don't shrink too small.

That's what I did and mine fits frame perfect.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: BoomWhop on August 22, 2016, 06:27:04 PM
Ok ya made me go look.  There are flaps that I did not have placed correctly. I am lucky no paint bleeding into the canvas from the poles. Tent did not shrink at all after 3 soakings inside and out. So exited to use it.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: losdaddy7 on September 07, 2016, 12:21:24 PM
I never get tired of reading through this thread.  I'm hoping to contribute something after this season.....  Thanks for the great ideas. :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on September 07, 2016, 06:37:01 PM
 :yeah: I've read through it 4-5 times  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on September 09, 2016, 06:12:42 AM
I bring my four dog everywhere. But my 12x12 doesn't need it during early sept and it can heat the tent plus the two 10x10 kitchen/porch setup as well makes it nice in Washington even next week w the high temps everything is damp after a few days in the jungle.  Dry out, warm up and sleep good is critical to staying after it.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on September 22, 2016, 07:38:44 AM
Well 6 days from leaving for Muzzy elk and I have been in my pre hunt sleep cycle for over a week.
What this means is I wake up in the middle of the night with solutions to camp problems.

Setting up my wall tent ,I set it up ,pull down the sides go inside and snap in the floor. This involves lifting the tent legs and putting the floor under them.

Woke up last night thinking, Leave the walls up, lay out the floor and work from the out side, pulling the floor towards me. UMMMM I am going to give that a try next Wednesday when I set it up at camp. :chuckle: :tup:

Any other ideas?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on October 01, 2016, 07:10:31 PM
Hopefully someone can help, I got a used tent and I have a frame kit I am cutting for it.  How tight do you want the tent and the frame to fit?  Do I want it to feel right when I slip the frame in, or is a little loose OK?  I don't wanna cut to the wrong length.  Thanks
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 01, 2016, 08:13:31 PM
Do you have a cut list or did you measure the tent?  I got a used tent with frame and the previous owner had my rafters 3" too long and I have to cut them off...I wasn't able to get it setup before I used it for elk camp this year and it made zipping up the door a little difficult so having the right lengths will help. You can see in this pic my rafter is a little long but I made it work...you want it to be snug...you don't want a loose tent flapping around

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Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on October 01, 2016, 09:09:00 PM
No cut list, just the parts and the tent.  I figured measure the inseams and cut for that. 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on October 01, 2016, 09:30:03 PM
Does anybody have any idea a couple led shop lights used with a deep cycle battery/inverter would last as far as battery life goes?

 Also Ray Davis at Davis tents told me there was no need to wet the tent down and shrink it. We should have our new 14x16 Davis in a couple weeks and can't wait to spend 10 days in it chasing deer & elk in Montana.
We just got back from 2 weeks in Idaho.  My deep cell inverter setup made it close to a week running led Christmas lights, and charging cell phones nightly.  I am going to pick up a solar charger for next year that should give us enough juice for the second week.   This time we just used jumper cables, and charged the battery off of the truck which worked fine as well.

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Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 02, 2016, 01:57:13 PM
No cut list, just the parts and the tent.  I figured measure the inseams and cut for that.

http://www.walltentshop.com/pages/how-to-measure-a-wall-tent

There's videos also  :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: opdinkslayer on October 09, 2016, 08:24:04 AM
Does anybody have any idea a couple led shop lights used with a deep cycle battery/inverter would last as far as battery life goes?

 Also Ray Davis at Davis tents told me there was no need to wet the tent down and shrink it. We should have our new 14x16 Davis in a couple weeks and can't wait to spend 10 days in it chasing deer & elk in Montana.
We just got back from 2 weeks in Idaho.  My deep cell inverter setup made it close to a week running led Christmas lights, and charging cell phones nightly.  I am going to pick up a solar charger for next year that should give us enough juice for the second week.   This time we just used jumper cables, and charged the battery off of the truck which worked fine as well.

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Sweet we are gonna try batt/inverter with a LED shoplight on our MT hunt.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Colville on October 09, 2016, 09:41:28 AM
The spark arrestor is a novel idea, but they plug up to fast and in my opinion is a danger.
I only set up my tent for elk season, I don't even waist my time on a spark arrestor.

You shouldn't have to flip your tent, if it is hanging and can get air all around it just leave it.
Stains are part of the tent, there will be more to come.

I make an arrestor each year. I use hardware cloth. I cut a circle to the pipe diameter with two wings about an inch wide and 4 long.  You put the damper spindle through the wings and the screen hangs in the pipe beneath the damper

Never plugs, doesnt burn out in a week or more. Not as effective as the cap style but a great improvement over none.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Bigshooter on October 09, 2016, 10:48:43 AM
Lots of good stuff in here.  One thing that I really like to have is fire starter logs and compressed logs.  I like compressed logs that burn 8hrs or more to put in at night. 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 25, 2016, 11:23:14 AM
Well just got back fro three weeks in my tent.

My new hint.

Put a little straw under the floor or ground cloth.
And out front of door. and 12 inches around the sides. (when it rains the dripping wont splash muddy crap along the bottom of your tent. )
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 25, 2016, 03:36:22 PM
Great idea....I'll try that out in 2 weeks  :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: bigjohn98591 on October 25, 2016, 04:22:14 PM
So much good info!! I can't wait to set up my tent for the first time. I bought a Cabelas 12x20 Alakanak with a free vestibule, back when they were 20% off and free shipping. My brother in law bought the  stove. We leave for Idaho on the 10th on November.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: conwaydave on October 25, 2016, 08:19:47 PM
Nice thread here! I did not see much talk on people using rain fly's. I don't have a factory rain fly for my wall tent, I bought my tent used and it did not come with one. Just wanted to share if you don't have a rain fly, a tarp over your tent roof keeps the inside of tent drier feeling. Inside roof does not get that cold, damp feeling when it is raining a lot or there is snow on roof. And I think it retains the heat inside tent. I do not cover the ends of roof so I do get some air movement. I know, a tarp on the tent may not look very good, I try to use a grey or brown tarp. But I may have had to use a blue one once or twice  :yike:Good luck hunting everyone!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 25, 2016, 08:54:13 PM
I made my own.. Posted pics in this thread.
You an buy white tarps at Hardware sales in Bellingham.

Flys protect the top from embers and other. Falling junk.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on October 25, 2016, 10:38:04 PM
I have a Bravo tent and got rain/snow fly from him, it's white and super light weight.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on November 05, 2016, 05:14:22 PM
I stock my stove when I put I away,with everything I need to start the first nights fire.
Fire starter
Electric start touch
Some dry wood or presto log.
Ash shovel

I just bought my 2 nd canvas tent. Used from a buddy.
10x12 Tent
Two doors
Two windows
Rain fly
Floor
Conduit frame
Fire matts
Four dog wood stove with water jacket.
Extended stakes
And some other extras

Used about 6 days. In new condition
I paid $1200.00 total.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: losdaddy7 on November 06, 2016, 09:25:38 AM
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Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on November 06, 2016, 10:15:27 AM
Where did get the fly losdaddy?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: losdaddy7 on November 06, 2016, 12:26:30 PM
Where did get the fly losdaddy?

PTM Tarps.  14 mil  they have a nice variety of sizes.  This was 16X24, then cut stove jack hole with the instructions from other members here.

http://www.ptmtarps.com/clear-heavy-duty-tarps/
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on November 06, 2016, 12:34:57 PM
Mylar umm Good idea.

How many guys use something behind their stoves to protect the wall?
I had two stove jacks installed in my tent when I bought it from Davis, one just to the right and 2/3rds to the front and the other in the front right side wall. When i setup the stove to the use the stove jack in the side wall it does get really hot on the canvas and i starting using a sheet of aluminum to block the heat, but I found its easier to heat the whole tent with using less wood when the stove is in the center of the tent.

Another way to spread the heat is to get one of those non electric fans that works from the heat of the stove.  These work really well. Just set it on top of your stove and they go to work.

http://www.garrettwade.com/caframo-ecofans-gp.html?scid=W6071005&gclid=CO6V04z9lNACFQ9EfgodZPQGzg
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on November 06, 2016, 05:11:55 PM
I looked at those,but they were $100.00 plus a pop in my area.
I went to k mart and got battery fan. Use it for moving heat or cool air in summer.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: opdinkslayer on November 28, 2016, 06:36:17 AM
 Just thought I would add an update on our maiden outing with our new Davis 14x16 setup. We spent 4 days in snow and some wind in the Little Belt Mtns and it was outstanding! Have a stove that we picked up from the boys in-law and refurbished it a bit. After figuring how to set it at night, woke up a bit cold 1st night  :chuckle:, it held a fire and heat all nite. Used a deep cycle battery-inverter with a 4 ft LED shoplight and it worked great. ran it about 4-5 hrs a day and it lasted 4 days on 1 battery.

 Took us about 2 1/2 hrs to tear down and move east to deer hunt and maybe 2 hrs to set it back up. We got an extra set of angles for a kitchen awning and used a seperate tarp for that we paid 45 bucks for. Worked great. All in all cant say enough good about Davis tents and our set up. Can't wait for the next trip already :)
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on November 28, 2016, 07:32:44 AM
Excellent

I know that I cant wait to get back out in my 10x12 tents . :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on November 28, 2016, 08:58:53 AM
Here is a photo of our Bravo tent and snow fly. Main tent is 15x15 with a 15x9 cooking/mud room area. The snow fly covers the entire 15x24 setup. We use motorcycle ratchet straps to secure the tent. They really tighten it down and don't come loose.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on January 03, 2017, 07:30:01 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on January 03, 2017, 07:32:52 PM
I have been playing around with pressed logs in my dog stoves.

Seems to me that the round logs burn hotter and longer than the square ones.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Magnum_Willys on January 03, 2017, 07:47:48 PM
One LED shop light uses 36 watts = Four 60 watt equilvalent LED bulbs = two LED Bulbs for the tent, one for cookshack and one for the park area. 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 08, 2017, 08:50:27 PM
How do you run your LEDs? This is something I want to do this year instead of lanterns
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 08, 2017, 09:06:43 PM
What do you guys use for tent stakes? The ones that came with my tent bent at the bottom
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 3dvapor on January 08, 2017, 09:13:56 PM
1/2 rebar sharpened to a point with welded hook at end.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Oh Mah on January 08, 2017, 09:15:28 PM
What do you guys use for tent stakes? The ones that came with my tent bent at the bottom
I use 45 nail stakes from walmart and they work great.,45 because i use bungies all around to hold tarp.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on January 09, 2017, 08:06:10 AM
My Reliable TP and Tent, Wall tent came with 12 inch heavy stakes with almost full curL on top. They work well.

My 2nd tent , came with after market 16 inch stakes out of rebar. Bought on line.

I have seen guys use four metal fence poles and string a line around them. Than take all the eve lines to the rope.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: bracer40 on January 09, 2017, 08:22:45 AM
We used 2' sections of rebar driven at an angle so logs (6-8') could be laid down between the stakes and lower tent ground section. This to help prevent the tent from being lifted by the wind (it blew pretty hard on a regular basis where we were).
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on January 09, 2017, 08:56:59 AM
I took 5 foot barbed wire fence posts and cut them up 18" long and drilled a hole in the top.  Pound them in at an angle and then hook the motorcycle hook through the hole and to the tent D ring.  Rock solid.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: kckrawler on January 09, 2017, 10:45:17 AM
What do you guys use for tent stakes? The ones that came with my tent bent at the bottom

I use forming nails, they don't bend. Just make sure you bring a sledge hammer to drive them in  :tup:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Blue-Hawk-Steel-Rebar-Pins-Common-0-75-in-x-24-in-Actual-0-75-in-x-24-in/4008157
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ac_156 on February 23, 2017, 08:49:27 PM
How much clearance do I need for the stove pipe. Right now my stove pipe fits through the hole but touches the fabric on all sides. I can freely move the material around without moving the stove pipe. Is that OK or do I need to trim it
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on February 23, 2017, 08:53:25 PM
Center the pipe in the hole.

Is your pipe 5 inch or 6 nch is the stove jack the same?

Just touching is not a problem.

My Three and Four dog stoves get the hottest, center top and sides.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on February 23, 2017, 08:57:42 PM
Like this 5 inch pipe and jack.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ac_156 on February 23, 2017, 09:25:19 PM
Yes its a 5 inch pipe looks like this
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on February 24, 2017, 07:08:15 PM
I would trim it to just shy of the first thread line from the pipe.

But take a vote here. Who agrees ,disagree .?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Buzz2401 on February 24, 2017, 08:17:49 PM
I've been using a 6 inch pipe that fits pretty much like the picture above for over 20 years with no problem but I also have a side jack and not a top jack.  Just bought a second tent and it came with a top jack, not sure how I am gonna like it but it was cheaper that way.  My friends tent has a top jack and it seems to drop water in on stove when it is raining hard, that will get annoying.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: j_h_nimrod on February 24, 2017, 08:25:52 PM
Tight is fine with most current materials, most of those silicone collars can withstand temps approaching 1000 degrees just fine. The worst that will happen is the material scorches, I would not trim the collar for a looser fit to be more water tight.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on February 24, 2017, 08:31:24 PM
I've been using a 6 inch pipe that fits pretty much like the picture above for over 20 years with no problem but I also have a side jack and not a top jack.  Just bought a second tent and it came with a top jack, not sure how I am gonna like it but it was cheaper that way.  My friends tent has a top jack and it seems to drop water in on stove when it is raining hard, that will get annoying.

Good point. I don't think the fact that it is touching is going to hurt anything.

My pipe has about a 1/8 inch clearance. But in heavy rain I have had some rain come down the pipe. But if the stove is cooking it sizzles off fast.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ac_156 on February 24, 2017, 09:29:50 PM
Ok thanks I will just leave it alone.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: rosscrazyelk on February 26, 2017, 03:30:38 PM
Where did get the fly losdaddy?

PTM Tarps.  14 mil  they have a nice variety of sizes.  This was 16X24, then cut stove jack hole with the instructions from other members here.

http://www.ptmtarps.com/clear-heavy-duty-tarps/
How did the tarp hold up? very interested in this method
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: rosscrazyelk on February 26, 2017, 03:34:11 PM
This is the next idea I was toying around with doing.  I found this on the good ol' google last night.  The owner used a dimmer switch and a deep cycle battery.
How can I get a break down on this?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: losdaddy7 on February 28, 2017, 05:49:05 PM
Held up great.  Very nice quality and I like the clear tap for the added light in the tent.  I only wish I would have started using this setup earlier!


Where did get the fly losdaddy?

PTM Tarps.  14 mil  they have a nice variety of sizes.  This was 16X24, then cut stove jack hole with the instructions from other members here.

http://www.ptmtarps.com/clear-heavy-duty-tarps/
How did the tarp hold up? very interested in this method
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on February 28, 2017, 08:20:08 PM
Held up great.  Very nice quality and I like the clear tap for the added light in the tent.  I only wish I would have started using this setup earlier!


Where did get the fly losdaddy?

PTM Tarps.  14 mil  they have a nice variety of sizes.  This was 16X24, then cut stove jack hole with the instructions from other members here.

http://www.ptmtarps.com/clear-heavy-duty-tarps/
How did the tarp hold up? very interested in this method

I have been using white tarps for rain flys. My thinking was allowed light put gave some protection and maybe uv protection.

Any idea if this clear fly gives any uv protection. I bought a 2nd new tent from a hunting buddy last fall and need a fly for it.
I like to use different colored tarps for a different purpase. All black tarps are ground tarps or floors ,all white are flys,etc.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Reidus on February 28, 2017, 10:06:49 PM
Their website says they offer 100% uv protection.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on April 27, 2017, 07:02:16 PM
How's everyone store your canvas tent when not in use ?

I have a walk in attic where I hang it with a small heater in the room.
When I transport it I put in a large back pack decoy bag to protect to and from camp.

Some guys store their tents in drums or garbage cans.

How do you do It.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: firepin on April 27, 2017, 07:32:47 PM
Big g-can with wheels, easy to move.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: duckman18 on April 27, 2017, 09:00:48 PM
50 gallon Rubbermaid tote holds 14x16 tent, angle kit, ropes, rain fly.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Miles on April 28, 2017, 05:33:18 AM
Mine came with a canvas storage bag.  It works great.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on April 28, 2017, 08:01:01 AM
Mine came with a canvas storage bag.  It works great.
:yeah:
Mine is a bravo, came in canvas storage bag as well.  Tent connector joints came in their own bag and the pipe for the frame was in it's own bags made from the same heavy duty material used on the floor.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on April 28, 2017, 11:28:18 AM
Both of mine came with canvas bags ,but prefer not to use them for the tents. Like something a little tougher and bigger.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on June 15, 2017, 09:16:06 PM
Well now that good weather is coming, I am thinking of working on my two canvas tents. I bought my 2 nd 10x12 after deer camp last year from my buddy.
It came with conduit frame ,lots of extras and a four dog stove. I have the stove dailed in for use in our cook shack and plan to buy a new three dog for the tent.

I haven't set this tent up yet so planning to do so soon. And tweet it to my system.
Marking the poles with colored electrical tape.

I already bought new stakes for it that match my other tent.

I stock my stoves with everything I need for the first nights fire. Often we are beat the first day in camp because we got up at 2am,drove 5-8 hours and set up a cook shack and several tents. Nice to not have to cut wood the first day.

So I stock my stoves. With
Nesting pipe
Damper
Propane torch
Dural fire starter bars
two or three pressed logs.
Side shelves
Clean out shovel
Pot holder
Ready to go once the tent is up"

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on June 19, 2017, 11:25:45 AM
Sooo for you Pellet stove guys out there, Is there any advantage to just throwing some pellets in your stove at night with the wood?

No hopper or anything ,just couple scoops of pellets. Anyone ever try it?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on June 20, 2017, 09:16:33 PM
Well I. Got my # 2 tent frame out and set it up this afternoon. My buddy I bought it from complained he couldn't put it up by himself because the conduit poles came apart on him.

I couldn't understand the problem because my # 1 tent has a aluminum frame and the pole ends have raised areas so they stay plugged into the angle better.

But this conduit frame slips in the angles kind of loose. I set down and looked at it for awhile and came up with the idea of stretching a 30 inch bungee between the angles.
That's about 6 inches shorter than the distance.
Snap
It pulled the frame right in tight. Excellent
Nine bungees will solve the problem. Now you might not have the problem with two guys. But I set up alone.
And once the tent is on the frame the issues goes away.

A bonus is the bungees also provide a place to hang light weight items.

I guess you could do the same thing with a rachet stap or some rope.

I also marked all my poles and angles with colored electrical tape for faster build when I have novice helper.
Match the colors.

Some pics.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Miles on June 20, 2017, 09:20:43 PM
I use some little self tapping screws for the same issue.  Usually only have to do the first side.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on June 20, 2017, 09:22:36 PM
I do the same thing with the colored electric tape.  I like the bungee idea.  Thanks,
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on June 23, 2017, 06:34:28 AM
So

How many of you tuck your mud flap under your tent legs.

And if you do, how do you lift the leg and pull the flap under by yourself, or with help.

I have done it and also not worried about it. The neatness part of me wants to tuck it, but I need to figure a way to lift the leg and pull the flap under by myself in old age if that's what I am going to do.
The last couple times I didn't worry about it.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: fishngamereaper on June 23, 2017, 06:44:28 AM
So

How many of you tuck your mud flap under your tent legs.

And if you do, how do you lift the leg and pull the flap under by yourself, or with help.

I have done it and also not worried about it. The neatness part of me wants to tuck it, but I need to figure a way to lift the leg and pull the flap under by myself in old age if that's what I am going to do.
The last couple times I didn't worry about it.  :dunno:

My mudflaps (sod cloth) stay on the outside so rain drains away. I put some rocks on it to keep it in place. Also just an idea for you. The tape for color coding works for a while but moisture and use it will eventually wear off. From my experience anyway. A couple years ago I put my frame together and color coded the joints with spray paint. Its held up great so far.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on June 23, 2017, 07:01:30 AM
I don't usually have a problem with draining as I put a rain fly tarp I made over the tents the Eve's are out two feet from the tent that's has worked well for me. We had some real heavy rain last year near Twisp.

I have found with the sod cloth out if it does get rain the water tends to pool on them.

Yeah the tape can wear some. I am about three years into that system and have had to redo a couple.
I keep a supply of colored tape in my tent box.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on June 23, 2017, 07:06:44 AM
I have my # 2 tent setup for the first time since I bought it from a buddy.

Changing some ,
Ropes,stakes, color coding.
Picking up another stove from a member on here in the am.

Got the sides up so my daughters rat dog doesn't pee on it.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on June 23, 2017, 08:04:48 AM
So I bought those bases that cabela's has for my tent legs.  With those on and before you stake the tent down I tuck the sod cloth under them.  Just lift the leg with one hand and pull the cloth under, then you can pull the cloth with both hands and the base slides on it pretty easy. You can get it really tight and then stake the edges down.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on June 29, 2017, 06:30:51 PM
Well finished up working on the #2 tent today.
I was walking around Lowes the other day and came across those long handled water keys you use to turn water valves.

Gave me a idea.

I bought a couple broke off the fork and bent a hook on the end. Works great for pulling tent stakes and hooking the ends of frame tubes on the ground to pick them up.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: bracer40 on June 29, 2017, 08:17:55 PM
I like the way you think. Great idea!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on June 29, 2017, 08:38:11 PM
I like the way you think. Great idea!

Trying to make so I can wall tent into my elderly years. Saves the back a little.
Pulling stakes is my least favorite chore.

Just added it up. Slept 59 days in a wall tent over two years. Wish it were double that.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: bracer40 on June 29, 2017, 08:51:14 PM
I envy that number...
Gotta few more years before I can see those sort of numbers.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on June 29, 2017, 09:14:47 PM
I envy that number...
Gotta few more years before I can see those sort of numbers.

Started a log book for each tent where it was set up,who was there, weather,any issues
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 02, 2017, 06:01:39 PM
Can you guess what these are for.?

I made them out of odds and ends on my work bench.

Yes the saddles are different sizes just because that's what I had.

Hint....The far left is one of my tent legs.

You'll have to wait till next weekend for a demo. Out of time.

This idea is untested. But two bottles of Pepsi thought went in to it. :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: bracer40 on July 02, 2017, 07:33:06 PM
Good tease!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 06, 2017, 08:29:15 PM
As far as the conduit frame coming apart while setting up by yourself I use duct tape and tape all the joints together so they don't fall out. After the first setup I did this and it works great. Eventually I'll get the snap together frame and not worry about it
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 08, 2017, 07:10:35 PM
Well while the wife was away , I got tent # 1 up today.

I used those two sticks with hoops above.

The idea was ,that setting up by myself ,it was awkward to lift the frame and hold a leg to shove in a angle at the same time.

I slid the two hoops on the frame between the 1&2 legs,and the 3&4 legs than lifted the frame with both hands.
The sticks rotated down as I lifted creating to teporary legs. Than it was easy to walk a long and install the legs.
When all legs were installed the sticks were a inch off the ground and easy to remove.

The smaller hoop worked better than the larger ,so I am going to change the large one for a small one.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 08, 2017, 07:14:59 PM
Once tent one was up I took advantage of our good weather and used some ISSO on the dirt spots. Hosed it down good.

This nice weather is great for working on the tents.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Oh Mah on July 10, 2017, 11:38:46 AM
very good idea,i will try this one
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 10, 2017, 01:55:43 PM
Has anyone added eve sleeves to their tent? I got a used  tent last year and it has a ridge pole sleeve but no corner sleeves. I'd like to extend the frame with all 3 poles instead of just the ridge pole to make it sturdier. I don't wanna just cut holes and risk having it start splitting. I thought about getting some vinyl like wall tentshop.com does for their tents and glue it in the corners so it doesn't tear when I cut slits. Has anyone done this?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 13, 2017, 12:44:26 PM
Has anyone added eve sleeves to their tent? I got a used  tent last year and it has a ridge pole sleeve but no corner sleeves. I'd like to extend the frame with all 3 poles instead of just the ridge pole to make it sturdier. I don't wanna just cut holes and risk having it start splitting. I thought about getting some vinyl like wall tentshop.com does for their tents and glue it in the corners so it doesn't tear when I cut slits. Has anyone done this?

I think you could get the job done by adding loops the size of your frame. That way no harm if you don't like it or don't need them.
Kind of like a exterior frame tent.

If I were doing it, I would have webbing loops sew along the eves evenly spaced and slip the frame through the loops. Have to decide how big the loops should be. If you are cutting frame material where you camp you might need 3-4 inch loops. :dunno:

ummm there might be a way to have a adjustable loop ???

Maybe something like a webbing belt, fold in half and sew to the eve, than adjust size with a buckle??????
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 03, 2017, 05:03:52 PM
Well I ordered a set of nesting pipe from four dog to replace the pipe that came with the cylinder stove I bought on here.
The pipe was ok but Ididnt like that the cylinder stove pipe gets bigger at the top.
Made it tough to push through the jack from inside. So I just bought a new set.

Burned off the coating with the weed burner.

And got the idea to cut small notches in each section to show the order they go together. The four dog pipe comes stamped with a number but over time it's hard to see.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 17, 2017, 10:40:31 PM
Anyone ever use these sleeves.

Thinking of using them on my #2 tent to conserve space.


https://www.walltentshop.com/collections/tent-camping-gear/products/rafter-sleeve-10
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on September 29, 2017, 01:45:46 PM
Don't own a walltent yet but here's an idea we use in one of our pop up blind locations. Cut out the bottom of a 5 gallon paint bucket. Pick a corner where you can fold back the floor. Dig the bucket into ground so just even with ground level. Place lid over bucket fold floor over top. You now have a boys and girls #1 Place to go at night. Absolutely no #2's in the tent!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on September 29, 2017, 07:18:05 PM
Well while the wife was away , I got tent # 1 up today.

I used those two sticks with hoops above.

The idea was ,that setting up by myself ,it was awkward to lift the frame and hold a leg to shove in a angle at the same time.

I slid the two hoops on the frame between the 1&2 legs,and the 3&4 legs than lifted the frame with both hands.
The sticks rotated down as I lifted creating to teporary legs. Than it was easy to walk a long and install the legs.
When all legs were installed the sticks were a inch off the ground and easy to remove.

The smaller hoop worked better than the larger ,so I am going to change the large one for a small one.

Great idea!  :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on September 29, 2017, 07:22:16 PM
I like it :tup:


Ok for the younger folks, little risky for us seniors. :yike:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: asmith on April 14, 2018, 12:59:52 PM
Since I'm looking at getting a wall tent, figured I would bump this up again.  A lot of good info in here.  I may have missed this in here already, but is it worth getting an aluminum frame over a steal frame?  I won't be packing this tent in, just unloading it from the truck and setting it up so weight isn't that much of a deal.  Didn't know if steel would be better if I'm going to be hanging a bunch of additional things from the frame.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: CastleRocker on April 14, 2018, 07:22:03 PM
Glad to see this thread again!  I bought two of those PTM tarps.  Now we can have a big overhang, or set up an entire cook shack.

As to pole material; either aluminum or steel poles works fine, I've had both. 

We now use a military surplus SHA stove. 
It can burn wood, coal, three different grades of jet fuel, kerosine, or just plain diesel.  It burns about 5 gallons per week if it's cold.  Kind of nice reaching over and turning a knob up or down, to adjust the temperature of the tent.  Every season, camp gets a little better!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 3dvapor on April 14, 2018, 09:17:24 PM
I have a 12 x18 wall tent and use 48 inch bungees as tie downs.  Work great and provide plenty of stretch in windy conditions plus are extremely fast to attatch and store.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: skeeter 20i on April 20, 2018, 07:33:42 AM
Glad to see this thread again!  I bought two of those PTM tarps.  Now we can have a big overhang, or set up an entire cook shack.

As to pole material; either aluminum or steel poles works fine, I've had both. 

We now use a military surplus SHA stove. 
It can burn wood, coal, three different grades of jet fuel, kerosine, or just plain diesel.  It burns about 5 gallons per week if it's cold.  Kind of nice reaching over and turning a knob up or down, to adjust the temperature of the tent.  Every season, camp gets a little better!

How big of a tent are you heating with one and do you ever have a problem with smell on your clothes?  I've been curios about one of these for a while now.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on April 23, 2018, 03:40:29 PM
A electric leaf blower works real good at getting that last little bit of ash out of your wood stove when you get home.  :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: RightPlace-RightTime on May 15, 2018, 11:09:10 PM
Question

Has anyone Sprayed there wall tent with Thompson's water seal?
 
If so.  What are the pro's and con's?  Was is stiff? etc  Did it seal good?

Someone mentioned it a while ago and I was considering trying this out.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Miles on June 10, 2018, 01:11:30 PM
Anyone have any pictures of stove side boot dryers they made?   We're hunting 3rd season Colorado this year with 5 of us and I'm trying to put something together.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: kevinlisa06 on July 04, 2018, 09:51:05 PM
1/2 rebar sharpened to a point with welded hook at end.

We use Spikes aka very large nails with a washer so the rope doesnít slip off.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 06, 2018, 10:45:39 PM
Surprised to find this online. But remember a member here making the same claim.

I think his spark arrestor issues are common to anyone who has used one.

And I think the slack on the frame could be solved, but that wouldnít bother me.

I have a 10 x 12 I bought used from a buddy and I like it fine.

Any how food for thought if you are looking for a tent.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xxQirdi0rUs

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 25, 2018, 09:25:02 PM
Bought a couple of these food grade barrels to store my tents in.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 28, 2018, 08:37:54 AM
Good idea  :tup: I may have to do this, mines just in the corner of my garage and always worried about mice or rats or somthing chewing on it
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 30, 2018, 07:22:32 PM
I was thinking today about summer camping. In the wall tent. I have some Battery fans I run during hot months.

But I Was  wondering if leaving the stove jack open and putting some bug screen over it to keep bugs out would aid in cooling? Since heat rises.

Anyone done anything like that?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: outdooraddict on July 31, 2018, 02:38:35 PM
I need to have a stove jack sewn in and a couple seems sewed up at the peak, anyone know in eastern Washington where to take the tent, and where do I fin d the stove jack thing to have sewn in.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: gaddy on July 31, 2018, 03:22:47 PM
Ghosthunter, I had a thought about this with my brothers tent. The thought was, if you opened the flaps on the eves  (if equipped for rope support) And ran a pipe under the tent mid-way on the shade side, it would create air flow. Cooler air from the bottom of the shade side venting out the top of the tent as it heats. A battery fan on the exit points would only increase air flow. Just make sure to zip tie some fine mesh on the bottom pipe for critters. It was a thought that never was tested. Just made sense to me. The heat coming from the exit points, combined with the outflow of air would keep the bugs out.
Just a thought !
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Dale Gribble on July 31, 2018, 04:14:58 PM
I need to have a stove jack sewn in and a couple seems sewed up at the peak, anyone know in eastern Washington where to take the tent, and where do I fin d the stove jack thing to have sewn in.

The Wall tent shop in Moscow Id, or Yakima tent in Yakima, Wa.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 31, 2018, 07:13:50 PM
I need to have a stove jack sewn in and a couple seems sewed up at the peak, anyone know in eastern Washington where to take the tent, and where do I fin d the stove jack thing to have sewn in.

The Wall tent shop in Moscow Id, or Yakima tent in Yakima, Wa.

You can get stove jacks on line from almost any tent maker.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 06, 2018, 11:31:44 AM
Well I was reading on another thread that folks were having trouble with moisture forming between their sleeping pad and cot in a wall tent.

I have never had this problem in my wall tents. I did experience it in a friends one year.

I think the solution is not to have dead air space under your cot or empty air space. And more padding between you and cot.

Anyone else. ?????
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on August 06, 2018, 11:36:41 AM
I think part of the problem is the pad that I am using is a cloth wrapped foam pad, not one of those air up pads where you open the valve and it airs up.  The material on those would hold up better to the moisture I would think.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on August 06, 2018, 11:37:49 AM
Also we keep a pan of water on the stove for moisture in the tent.  My daughter gets bloody noses from the dry air sleeping in the wall tent with the wood stove blazing.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: vandeman17 on August 06, 2018, 11:46:36 AM
Also we keep a pan of water on the stove for moisture in the tent.  My daughter gets bloody noses from the dry air sleeping in the wall tent with the wood stove blazing.

I am considering doing the same this year but also am doubting that we will be able to have a fire so might not work quite as well. No fun sleeping with tp stuffed up your nose.  :o
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 06, 2018, 11:50:36 AM
I use a high loft bag with a foam pad under it and under that I have the bag stuff bag and other odd end bags. I store my clothes bags under my bunk. and keep all window cracked about four inches. No moisture issues.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on August 06, 2018, 12:00:42 PM
Also we keep a pan of water on the stove for moisture in the tent.  My daughter gets bloody noses from the dry air sleeping in the wall tent with the wood stove blazing.

I am considering doing the same this year but also am doubting that we will be able to have a fire so might not work quite as well. No fun sleeping with tp stuffed up your nose.  :o
No and when she gets them they are bad, big blood clots.  She has the same issue at our cabin in the winter, the air is so cold and dry outside and then dry wood heat in the cabin.  One step that we take is she puts Aquafor on a Q tip and coats the inside of her nostrils with that.  That seems to help as well.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 15, 2018, 07:49:09 PM
 I have two wall tents.

One with the stove jack to the right of the door. Tent #1

The other has a door each end with the stove jack to the back right, or front left depending how I set it up. Tent #2

For some reason I like tent # 1 layout best even though #2 is a better tent.

Do you have a preference and why?

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 7mmfan on August 15, 2018, 08:23:48 PM
I have only known stove on the left and you walk in. I could hardly imagine any other configuration. But I dislike change too :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 15, 2018, 08:27:57 PM
I think the reason I like the stove near the entrance is itís easy to grab some wood just outside on same side. It might have to do with being right handed. :dunno:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 7mmfan on August 15, 2018, 08:56:36 PM
I like that it keeps the mud/muck to a minimum at the entrance by keeping the ground dry there. Helps minimize mess the rest of the way into the tent. Also, when it gets to warm, you seem to be able to cool the tent down easier with stove by the door.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on August 20, 2018, 08:04:48 AM
What do all of you guys do about patches for holes? Do you sew it or is there a good glue to use with some small patches
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Oh Mah on August 24, 2018, 07:51:43 AM
Canvas iron on's.With the tent up in backyard after a season if i see a hole needs repair i set up tent to dry,air out.I'll use iron on patches. work great,Have had some on for nearly 10 years now.Just have someone hold appropriate size piece of wood on inside and iron on from outside.  :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on August 26, 2018, 06:30:51 PM
Thx  :tup: I ended up finding some glue and used some spare canvas leftover from getting a new door put on and it's worked great...will get to test it out in 2 weeks at elk camp  :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: j_h_nimrod on August 26, 2018, 11:07:01 PM
I want to build a frame for a 14x16 tent and have found a few places for angle pieces but wondering if there are any recommendations for frame parts?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: G-S on August 27, 2018, 04:04:47 AM
I want to build a frame for a 14x16 tent and have found a few places for angle pieces but wondering if there are any recommendations for frame parts?


Go to the walltentshop.com the guy has every thing you need for your frame and has youtube videos showing how to meassure your tent to cut all your conduit
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on August 27, 2018, 08:02:38 AM
Conduit is alot cheaper than buying an aluminium frame, wall tent shop.com has lots of options for angles, I'd recommend a 4 rafter frame for that size tent
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: follow maggie on September 17, 2018, 11:39:59 PM
I want to build a frame for a 14x16 tent and have found a few places for angle pieces but wondering if there are any recommendations for frame parts?

Electrical conduit from Hme Depot is the best way. Fast easy & relatively cheap.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on September 18, 2018, 09:23:15 AM
I was thinking today about summer camping. In the wall tent. I have some Battery fans I run during hot months.

But I Was  wondering if leaving the stove jack open and putting some bug screen over it to keep bugs out would aid in cooling? Since heat rises.

Anyone done anything like that?


A window shacker A/C unit with Honda 2000 works great!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on September 18, 2018, 09:24:08 AM
Inside tent pic.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on September 27, 2018, 09:04:47 PM
Since I'm looking at getting a wall tent, figured I would bump this up again.  A lot of good info in here.  I may have missed this in here already, but is it worth getting an aluminum frame over a steal frame?  I won't be packing this tent in, just unloading it from the truck and setting it up so weight isn't that much of a deal.  Didn't know if steel would be better if I'm going to be hanging a bunch of additional things from the frame.

I have two tents . One aluminum frame,one conduit. The conduit frame tent is a better tent with doors both ends and two windows. However I find if I only need one I tend to lean to the aluminum frame just because it is so much lighter and the rafters are two piece. So easier to transport.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on September 27, 2018, 09:07:59 PM
Has anyone tried pure peppermint oil to keep mice away from your tent while hunting?

Going to give it a try this year. Boy is that stuff strong.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on September 28, 2018, 08:49:32 AM
Has anyone tried pure peppermint oil to keep mice away from your tent while hunting?

Going to give it a try this year. Boy is that stuff strong.
What do you do with the peppermint oil?  Pour it around the perimeter?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 7mmfan on September 28, 2018, 08:51:10 AM
I haven't tried any deterrent, just traps. Have killed a lot of mice.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on September 28, 2018, 11:04:01 AM
Has anyone tried pure peppermint oil to keep mice away from your tent while hunting?

Going to give it a try this year. Boy is that stuff strong.
What do you do with the peppermint oil?  Pour it around the perimeter?

Put a couple drops on cotton balls around out side of tent.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: spin05 on October 04, 2018, 12:41:36 AM
Has anyone tried pure peppermint oil to keep mice away from your tent while hunting?

Going to give it a try this year. Boy is that stuff strong.

nope a mouse trap on each corner and each side of the door and ive usually got most of em by day 4.  2017 was a new rodent record for me

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 04, 2018, 04:07:00 AM
I used chain link fence rails & attachments for my frame which matched my commercial one closely.  Used hole saw to trim ends for welding angle pieces.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 23, 2018, 07:51:06 PM
Well was out 20 days. Caught 7 mice in 24 hour traps around cook shack.
Used the perpetmint oil around the tents and not one mouse seen in 20 days.

The cook shack was 15 feet from the tent in elk camp.

I think the peppermint oil worked.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 23, 2018, 07:55:05 PM
How much oil? Cotton balls every 6 ft or what?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 23, 2018, 07:58:09 PM
So I had all three stoves going this trip.
Three dog,four dog and a cylinder stove from UT.

One thing I tried was running them without dampers. I really do t see a need for a damper. The dog stoves have a baffle at pipe outlet to keep heat down.

The dampers seem to clog  after a week of use with chealsote.

They all were easy to control heat out put by controlling air intake.

Anyone tried this?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 23, 2018, 08:01:27 PM
How much oil? Cotton balls every 6 ft or what?

I put three cotton  balls on each side of a 10x12 tent.
I used four drops of oil per ball.

Peppermint oil runs about 15.00 for a small bottle.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 23, 2018, 08:11:04 PM
One of my messy chores is getting the chesolte out of the pipes for storage and getting that last bit of ash out of the stoves.

The best method for the pipes I ha e found is to put them in a camp fire. And pick them off with a 5ft rod. Tap while hot and they come real clean.

Getting the last bit of ash out, I have e tried several things.  Just canít get it all out at camp by dumping. The best method I have found is leaf blower through the pipe hole.
Now this is messy for the surrounding area,so I suggest you do it when the wife is not home. And if you live in a apartment complex forget it.
But it does the job.

Any other methods?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 23, 2018, 08:16:52 PM
Only used dampers with super dry wood or tamarack when its not too cold out so you dont get blown out with heat.  If cold out controlling air intake is all i need.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on October 24, 2018, 12:03:04 PM
For cleaning the pipes out I use a branch off of a douglas fir tree.  Use it like a chimney sweep brush and get all the soot out.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 24, 2018, 12:23:02 PM
One of my messy chores is getting the chesolte out of the pipes for storage and getting that last bit of ash out of the stoves.

The best method for the pipes I ha e found is to put them in a camp fire. And pick them off with a 5ft rod. Tap while hot and they come real clean.

Getting the last bit of ash out, I have e tried several things.  Just canít get it all out at camp by dumping. The best method I have found is leaf blower through the pipe hole.
Now this is messy for the surrounding area,so I suggest you do it when the wife is not home. And if you live in a apartment complex forget it.
But it does the job.

Any other methods?

I use a bunch of old socks that I lay out on top of each other and place a rope in the middle then zip tie it.👍
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 25, 2018, 03:06:24 PM
Anyone have any tips for camp showers?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 25, 2018, 03:12:35 PM
I gave up on camp showers a few years ago. Got tired of setting them up.

A hunting partner has one of those Cabela's water heater shower things. He strips naked and takes a shower right out in the open on a rubber mat.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on October 25, 2018, 03:24:40 PM
Anyone have any tips for camp showers?
We go into town 3-4 days into the hunt, rent a hotel, everyone takes a shower. Then we grab a bite to eat in town and head back to camp.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Alchase on October 25, 2018, 05:32:48 PM
Anyone have any tips for camp showers?

Hit up the closest State Park, I used Pearygin every other day. A $1.00 in quarters and I am a happy camper again.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 25, 2018, 06:38:49 PM
Yeah

Eagle Rock Resort for those hunting around 410. Has pay showers.

And around Twisp the laundry mat near hanks has pay showers.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 28, 2018, 04:54:41 PM
Just use baby wipes while your at camp....it refreshes u  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 28, 2018, 05:06:29 PM
Yeah I use them every night and morning ,but after 10 days of a 24 day hunt even baby wipes donít do the trick. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: highside74 on October 28, 2018, 05:12:04 PM
Anyone have any tips for camp showers?

I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Alchase on October 28, 2018, 06:26:40 PM
I use the bath wipes you get in Hospitols. You can do your whole body with one anticeptic wipe.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Assurance-Premium-Extra-Large-Disposable-Washcloths-XL-144-Ct/24360534?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=4195&adid=22222222228017436207&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=40754593832&wl4=pla-78606705992&wl5=1024220&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=24360534&wl13=4195&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwPzYn7-q3gIViNlkCh1iugtlEAQYAiABEgJof_D_BwE
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: snake on October 28, 2018, 06:36:03 PM
I usually lay a tarp down for the floor, then lay carpet on top of that.  The carpet was really heavy and took up 1/2 of my toyota bed.  Anyone have any ideas for a CHEAP and light floor?  I checked the indoor/outdoor carpet from home depot but it was about $1.50 SF.  that will cost way too much for me in my 12x20 tent. Thanks.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: j_h_nimrod on October 28, 2018, 06:49:02 PM
Home Depot has the smaller, pre-cut indoor/outdoor carpets that I think are 5íx10í. They are the more woven fiber vs Astro turf type. They fold up small and you could use 3-4 for the whole floor, pin the edges with sod staples. Easier to clean up and all 4 would fit in a medium tote. I think they ran about $20 each iirc. I use one for in front of my trailer door and it works perfect.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: snake on October 28, 2018, 07:07:21 PM
thanks I will look for them tomorrow.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 28, 2018, 07:36:23 PM
Whatever you do figure on a ground  cloth. A tarp works well for a ground cloth than when you tear down you just fold the muddy side in and hose it off at home.

I label my ground cloth, tent floors, and flys front and back and what tent they go too.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 28, 2018, 07:38:28 PM
If you have a salvage store in your area sometimes they have turf they bought from schools cheap.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: snake on October 28, 2018, 08:26:19 PM
So a tarp alone would work fine as a floor?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 29, 2018, 02:36:27 AM
Anyone have any tips for camp showers?

I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.

Thatís bad ass dude! Might need to figure out how to make one myself thatís what I had in mind. Thereís no showers or state parks where I go in Idaho or I would hit them up!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: trophyhunt on October 29, 2018, 07:04:11 AM
Anyone have any tips for camp showers?

I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.

Thatís bad ass dude! Might need to figure out how to make one myself thatís what I had in mind. Thereís no showers or state parks where I go in Idaho or I would hit them up!
You can also just put a big pot on a stove/burner, buy an RV pump and hoses.  Put a shower head on on end, put the suction part in the pot when warm and have at it.  It works really well.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on October 29, 2018, 11:32:33 AM
So a tarp alone would work fine as a floor?
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Basically, Yes.
The problem with a  tarp is it will tend to bunch up when you walk on it. This could be over come with a couple throw rugs in the traffic area. I would get two standard tarps if you go that route as one will likely get dampish from the ground. A little straw under the floor is a good thing too if you have it.

Most wall tent floors you buy are just heavy tarps. They can be hard to unroll and smooth out in cold weather.

If you do tarps by about 6 inches bigger on all sides than you need. Helps seal the floor.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: steeleywhopper on October 29, 2018, 12:03:37 PM
I usually lay a tarp down for the floor, then lay carpet on top of that.  The carpet was really heavy and took up 1/2 of my toyota bed.  Anyone have any ideas for a CHEAP and light floor?  I checked the indoor/outdoor carpet from home depot but it was about $1.50 SF.  that will cost way too much for me in my 12x20 tent. Thanks.

We use dryer felt for a floor in our tents and it works great.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: KopperBuck on October 29, 2018, 12:29:28 PM
Anyone have any tips for camp showers?

I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.

Thatís bad ass dude! Might need to figure out how to make one myself thatís what I had in mind. Thereís no showers or state parks where I go in Idaho or I would hit them up!

Go to your local feed store. They sell them as hot water heaters for bathing horses.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: CoryTDF on October 29, 2018, 12:42:16 PM
Asking this for Pathfinder101. I dont have time to look back through all 24 pages so if this has been mentioned already please forgive me.

During our Idaho hunt we hit some pretty good rain and the wall tent did not hold up. Yes, I know that we should have had a tarp over it. Anyway, is there some kind of magic tent treatment that will restore the water repellent of the canvas? some kind of spray or something? 

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: KopperBuck on October 29, 2018, 02:25:48 PM
We've treated with Canvak and had good luck.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: KopperBuck on October 29, 2018, 02:26:58 PM
Anyone have any tips for camp showers?

I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.

I'm glad you posted this. We've owned a couple of them and I never even thought about using it on myself. Great post.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on November 05, 2018, 09:11:30 AM
I run a tarp on the ground then I have a big canvas tarp I lay on the floor of my tent...works great
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: skeeter 20i on November 05, 2018, 11:57:02 AM
Going with a Honda generator this year.  What is everyone using for light in their tents that uses a generator.  I was thinking these shatterproof led ones?  Thoughts?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4XMN38/ref=twister_B07GJYSGV5?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

Jason




Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 05, 2018, 12:06:33 PM
Going with a Honda generator this year.  What is everyone using for light in their tents that uses a generator.  I was thinking these shatterproof led ones?  Thoughts?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4XMN38/ref=twister_B07GJYSGV5?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

Jason

On sale at Costco now for 38.99 in Burlington, I have them in my barn there tough.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: spin05 on November 06, 2018, 01:06:54 AM
I usually lay a tarp down for the floor, then lay carpet on top of that.  The carpet was really heavy and took up 1/2 of my toyota bed.  Anyone have any ideas for a CHEAP and light floor?  I checked the indoor/outdoor carpet from home depot but it was about $1.50 SF.  that will cost way too much for me in my 12x20 tent. Thanks.

I do the same. I bought the thinner blue black stuff not the astro turf style. It was only .87 cent a foot
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 06, 2018, 05:15:55 AM
Might as well make your camping quarters as comfy as possible with the longer time spent in there.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Jason on November 06, 2018, 05:31:32 AM
We have a tarp that stretches across the back half of my tent. And then I have 3'x5' strips of carpet remnants that we put in front of each cot or between two cots depending on how many people we have that year.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Alchase on November 06, 2018, 05:43:12 PM
I use old bath mats in front of my cot and doorway.
I also use an older down sleeping bag between my cot pad and my sleeping bag. Keeps the backside nice and warm all night.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: rosscrazyelk on November 11, 2018, 06:13:47 PM
I usually lay a tarp down for the floor, then lay carpet on top of that.  The carpet was really heavy and took up 1/2 of my toyota bed.  Anyone have any ideas for a CHEAP and light floor?  I checked the indoor/outdoor carpet from home depot but it was about $1.50 SF.  that will cost way too much for me in my 12x20 tent. Thanks.

I do the same. I bought the thinner blue black stuff not the astro turf style. It was only .87 cent a foot
I used these with a inverter and a marine battery. Worked great. Nice and quiet
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on November 11, 2018, 06:34:40 PM
Going with a Honda generator this year.  What is everyone using for light in their tents that uses a generator.  I was thinking these shatterproof led ones?  Thoughts?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4XMN38/ref=twister_B07GJYSGV5?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

Jason

Well I have a generator but didnít even run it this year at camp.

Two years ago I switched the whole camp over to battery lanterns . We were out 24 days and only put new batteries in three lanterns out of 12.
Quite

Cook shack and tents. Used one propane lantern next to cook stove.

I hate hearing the hummm of a generator instead of the sounds of the mountains.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: pd on November 11, 2018, 09:37:53 PM
Anyone have any tips for camp showers?

I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.

This is pure genius!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Alchase on November 12, 2018, 10:07:07 AM
Ghosthunter, I use a similar setup as your last pic, a Costco folding table, for the BBQ and Grill, hosed to a propane tree with a lantern on top.
One more addition, I added the battery powered LED work lights, they run 100 hrs on 4 AA batteries, at 240 Lumins. Tough little lights, they we in the bargain bin at Lowes for $4.99
No more Lanterns with 4 D size,, that last a few hours.


https://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Compact-Technology-Batteries-Included/dp/B01BCMXJES/ref=sr_1_30_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1542045335&sr=8-30-spons&keywords=battery+led+worklight&psc=1
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on November 12, 2018, 11:30:13 AM
Ghosthunter, I use a similar setup as your last pic, a Costco folding table, for the BBQ and Grill, hosed to a propane tree with a lantern on top.
One more addition, I added the battery powered LED work lights, they run 100 hrs on 4 AA batteries, at 240 Lumins. Tough little lights, they we in the bargain bin at Lowes for $4.99
No more Lanterns with 4 D size,, that last a few hours.


https://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Compact-Technology-Batteries-Included/dp/B01BCMXJES/ref=sr_1_30_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1542045335&sr=8-30-spons&keywords=battery+led+worklight&psc=1

I will check those out.

I have had good luck with battery maintenance. D cells. Always looking for better ideas. But running a generator takes away from the hunt for me. My buddies all know it so they run theirs mid day while I am hunting. When the sun goes down I like hearing the woods .
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Alchase on November 12, 2018, 06:19:03 PM
I have been using it his two tube Coleman lanterns that run off four D size batteries for years. This year the lead lights with twice the light and ten times the charge off a couple of AA batteries, got to love technology, lol

Had to replace my old sunbeam BBQ after over ten years of hard use.
Went with the Char-Broil Portable Gas Grill 240, sturdy little sucker.


Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 12, 2018, 08:02:51 PM
Anyone have any tips for camp showers?

I built this. It runs off a battery and uses an RV pump to either suck water out of a barrel or creek. Piping hot showers with 40 degree water.

This is pure genius!


 :yeah: Enginutity at best!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: snake on November 26, 2018, 06:05:34 PM
How often do you guys have to clean your stove pipe and or spark arrestor?  My spark arrestor gets plugged about every other day if not  every other day.  i am burning good wood, dry lodgepole or Tamarack.  Is it because i choke my stove down really low at night so it burns longer? 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on November 26, 2018, 06:27:21 PM
Well I got rid of the spark arester. I take one with me but seldom use it.

This year I also took out the damper. I found in the three stoves I have I can control heat with air flow.

But in 20 days I cleaned the two tent stoves once during the trip. And cleaned them up when I got home.
The third stove in the cook shack pipe stayed clean for 20 days, but we run that stove wide open all the time.

The best way I found to get the build up out is to put them on the campfire get hot gently tap.
Sometimes I use a weed burner.
You can get them too hot so donít over do it.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 26, 2018, 06:28:09 PM
Gotta scrap it or move to bottom of pipe next to stove where it will burn itself clean. 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on November 26, 2018, 08:18:46 PM
This year my wife and kids were in camp all day with the stove dampened down. Three days in I needed to clean the pipe.

I just let it cool off, break it down and use a Doug fir branch and needles to brush it out.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 7mmfan on November 27, 2018, 08:26:20 AM
This year my wife and kids were in camp all day with the stove dampened down. Three days in I needed to clean the pipe.

I just let it cool off, break it down and use a Doug fir branch and needles to brush it out.

This is what I've always done. Often just a couple good drops on the ground and some slaps on the side will get a large amount of the build up out. When we remember them, we have a pair of welders gloves we bring so we can heat the pipe up and do this, works exceptionally well.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: snake on November 27, 2018, 11:20:08 AM
Thanks for the advice guys.  I am heading back up for another 4-5 days.  I will have to throw the pipe in a fire i guess and get all the build up out.  Seems like the guys who burn their stove  hot all the time have less build up. 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on November 27, 2018, 11:27:51 AM
Thanks for the advice guys.  I am heading back up for another 4-5 days.  I will have to throw the pipe in a fire i guess and get all the build up out.  Seems like the guys who burn their stove  hot all the time have less build up.

That's been the result for me burning three stoves. The cook shack is 10X20 and drafty so that stove is full bore all the time. And stays cleaner.
Little tougher in the 10x12  wall tents. Running those three dogs at full throttle will melt the legs of my cot. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: snake on November 27, 2018, 12:04:32 PM
yeah that's about it. I'm in a 12x20. with a 4 dog.  it will burn you out in a hurry if you let it roar. main reason i choke it down so much is so i don't have to get up much in the middle of the night.  Usually get up 1 time.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Night goat on November 27, 2018, 12:44:39 PM
I was told burning a beer can would clear it out with a hot fire going ans would prevent buildup :dunno:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Alchase on November 27, 2018, 07:11:07 PM
Lessons learned tip from this last hunting trip.

Donít forget the propane hose for your Little Buddy Heater in the garage when going on a 7 day hunt with nights in the low 20s!

And if your sleeping bag zipper partially tore away from the bag about a six inch length on your last hunting trip, it is a fantastic idea to remember to replace it ďbeforeĒ your next hunt that you forgot your propane hose on!

Just saying
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on November 28, 2018, 01:29:12 PM
Couple of great tips right there. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 2MANY on November 28, 2018, 01:32:16 PM
I was wondering if these wall tents have a roof or only walls?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: skeeter 20i on November 28, 2018, 01:35:03 PM
I was wondering if these wall tents have a roof or only walls?

Nope you have to buy those separate.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 2MANY on November 28, 2018, 02:41:16 PM
If that's the case I might go with a roof tent first.
At least it protects from the rain.

Then as the budget allows I could add a wall at a time.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 28, 2018, 02:42:08 PM
If that's the case I might go with a roof tent first.
At least it protects from the rain.

Then as the budget allows I could add a wall at a time.

 :o
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on November 28, 2018, 02:56:21 PM
 :fishin: :camp:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 28, 2018, 03:14:16 PM
I was wondering if these wall tents have a roof or only walls?
Most Tipi versions only have walls but some only roof. 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: BULLBLASTER on November 28, 2018, 09:22:18 PM
I was wondering if these wall tents have a roof or only walls?
Most Tipi versions only have walls but some only roof.
How can you tell if you have a wall tepee or a roof tepee?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 2MANY on November 29, 2018, 09:09:29 AM
If you set up a tepee upside down does it have a roof?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 29, 2018, 09:10:26 AM
If you set up a tepee upside down does it have a roof?

Nope, now itís a funnel to your cot.😉
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 2MANY on November 29, 2018, 10:01:19 AM
Oh my.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: skeeter 20i on November 29, 2018, 10:08:50 AM
If you set up a tepee upside down does it have a roof?

Yes it's called a sun roof though, it's an option you can get.  IMHO it's not worth the extra money though it's not very good on windy days.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 2MANY on November 29, 2018, 10:10:41 AM
Sounds like you might need a single leg cot as well.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 29, 2018, 11:21:53 AM
Maybe I need to start making upside down tipi shelters.  I'm detecting some interest.

Sounds like you might need a single leg cot as well.

Just don't sit on it  :yike: :yike: :yike:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on November 29, 2018, 11:56:02 AM
is it just me or is anyone else lost?? :dunno:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 2MANY on November 29, 2018, 11:57:57 AM
Well obviously I'm lost.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: BULLBLASTER on November 29, 2018, 12:05:18 PM
Well obviously I'm lost.

Always sound advice to never sit on the one legged cot
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Night goat on November 29, 2018, 12:49:34 PM
Lets leave Jonathan_S alone so he can camp with his one legged cot and return to wall tents  :dunno:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 29, 2018, 07:52:54 PM
is it just me or is anyone else lost?? :dunno:

Not lost here just watch out for one legged cots in your elk camp........ :dunno: Oh ya always order the walls first so nobody sees the one legged cot. Then order the roof before fall rains down into the walls and floats the one legged cot over the walls flooding into neighboring wall renters with one legged cots surrounded by floating firewood from walls of fire wood...........  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 29, 2018, 07:56:22 PM
is it just me or is anyone else lost?? :dunno:

Not lost here just watch out for one legged cots in your elk camp........ :dunno: Oh ya always order the walls first so nobody sees the one legged cot. Then order the roof before fall rains down into the walls and floats the one legged cot over the walls flooding into neighboring wall renters with one legged cots surrounded by floating firewood from walls of fire wood...........  :chuckle:

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on November 29, 2018, 08:12:04 PM
Wth did I just open up  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on November 29, 2018, 08:21:11 PM
Wth did I just open up  :chuckle:

I been here since the beginning, and have no clue. Going to take my first drink in 30years and a cold shower , maybe it will clear when I look later. :bash:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Night goat on November 30, 2018, 10:13:15 AM
Is an Alaknak considered an ultralight in the world of wall tents?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 01, 2018, 06:27:01 PM
Wth did I just open up  :chuckle:

I been here since the beginning, and have no clue. Going to take my first drink in 30years and a cold shower , maybe it will clear when I look later. :bash:

I have some crown and coke here if you want to come have a drink and figure out what's going on  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 92xj on December 01, 2018, 06:29:57 PM
Is an Alaknak considered an ultralight in the world of wall tents?

Seek outside courthouse
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 01, 2018, 06:52:50 PM
Is an Alaknak considered an ultralight in the world of wall tents?
The Alaknak should be considered a half wall and roof tent.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Night goat on December 01, 2018, 11:14:42 PM
Is an Alaknak considered an ultralight in the world of wall tents?

Seek outside courthouse

now that's funny right there.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: CLARKTAR on December 02, 2018, 06:59:50 AM
Anyone have a good way of storing the tent and poles? Poles are so long they really don't fit into anything. I have my 14x16 Davis wall tent in it's bag just leaning against the wall in the shop. Maybe I'm just OCD with organizing but I hate having several sets of poles and the tent not all in one package.

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Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Jason on December 02, 2018, 07:40:06 AM
Anyone have a good way of storing the tent and poles? Poles are so long they really don't fit into anything. I have my 14x16 Davis wall tent in it's bag just leaning against the wall in the shop. Maybe I'm just OCD with organizing but I hate having several sets of poles and the tent not all in one package.

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Iíve seen pole bags that people have made. I just put each length together and wrap them tightly with electrical tape.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: firepin on December 02, 2018, 09:34:06 AM
I put my poles in a 10" pvc pipe cut a little longer than the rafter poles with caps on ends. I have a 10x12 and a 14x16 Davis tents. Two pieces of pvc mounted on my trailer, one for each tent. Keeps poles separated and a storage year round.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 02, 2018, 09:34:59 AM
I put my poles in a 10" pvc pipe cut a little longer than the rafter poles with caps on ends. I have a 10x12 and a 14x16 Davis tents. Two pieces of pvc mounted on my trailer, one for each tent. Keeps poles separated and a storage year round.

Great idea.👍
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 02, 2018, 02:15:50 PM
 :yeah: I'll be doing this now  :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on December 02, 2018, 02:51:43 PM
I put my poles in a 10" pvc pipe cut a little longer than the rafter poles with caps on ends. I have a 10x12 and a 14x16 Davis tents. Two pieces of pvc mounted on my trailer, one for each tent. Keeps poles separated and a storage year round.

That is a good idea. I have two bags for my conduit frame tent
One would be two heavy.
But the pipe would be more durabale.

My other tent is aluminum frame and a quarter of the weight.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: snake on December 02, 2018, 05:39:41 PM
What do you guys do for drying out your tent after use?  I have a few spots where it looks like mold is starting.  Are their any treatments for mold?  I do not have a heated shop and dry my tent out in my basement.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Crunchy on December 02, 2018, 05:46:52 PM
check weather report for dry day, set up tent and stove and burn.  As far as treating  maybe a spray bottle with a water and a little bleach.  Spray on lightly, and let it dry.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: RightPlace-RightTime on December 02, 2018, 05:54:33 PM
Never bleach
Use vinegar and water and a lemon squeezed in
Works wonders
Use sprayer

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: RightPlace-RightTime on December 02, 2018, 05:56:37 PM
I also cleaned my entire tent that way.
Once done we coated entire tent with Thompsons water seal with sprayer.  Let dry and pack up
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: trophyhunt on December 02, 2018, 06:08:17 PM
What do you guys do for drying out your tent after use?  I have a few spots where it looks like mold is starting.  Are their any treatments for mold?  I do not have a heated shop and dry my tent out in my basement.
This is why I sold my canvas tent and got the alaknak!  I put my canvas away dry as a bone, but stored it on my garage floor, molded up like crazy!  Spent 12 hours scrubbing with a bleach solution.  If I have to put my alaknak away wet, no problem! 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on December 02, 2018, 08:11:19 PM
I hang mine in the Arctic of my garage.
With a small heater going for a month.

Than I put it in a food 50 gal drum.

When the weather turns nice again I will set it up and hose it off, scrub any spots and dry on the frame roll up and back in drum. I also use this time to check for any problems.

Several of the tent companies have cleaners for canvas.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: snake on December 03, 2018, 04:41:18 PM
i will look for cleaners. i was planning on letting it dry out in my basement for about a week.  Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: outdooraddict on December 04, 2018, 04:10:19 AM
i have a wall tent if anyone is looking into getting one, i want to try the alaknak style, so might as well sell my tent to start saving for an alaknak. it measues 9x11, i think when you tighten the fram up its a 10x12, no floor  3 foot walls, metal frame, not perfect but for soeone starting out or wants to try the wall tent style hit me up  no stove jack either
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 2MANY on December 04, 2018, 12:00:40 PM
Why bother waterproofing a tent if your just gonna set it up in the garage?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on May 25, 2019, 07:34:30 PM
Time to get this warmed up again. Had my #1 tent out for turkey hunting. Missed being in it. We left the wood stove home because the forecast was for 52-80.
So we took the Big Buddy. Rained last three days andI missed the drying powers of the wood stove. Wonít do that again.

Was able to set it up on a nice day when we got home to clean it up and hose it down. Nice and dry. 140 days logged in the wall tents now.

Good time to get them out and work on them some.
Re- color coded my frame poles with colored tape.
Got some kayak fishing trips with the wall tents planned for this year , than hunting.

Come on fire up those canvas tent tips.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on May 25, 2019, 07:51:15 PM
Fired up my new Q pellet stove I got at the sportsman show and cured the paint. Hoping it keeps the tent warm this year. Taking the trusted cylinder stove just in case.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 7mmfan on May 25, 2019, 07:52:34 PM
I've never considered days logged in the wall tent before. First one was when I was 15, and it's been 10+ days a year since then. Some years significantly more than that. That was 20 years ago. 200+ days for sure.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on May 25, 2019, 08:03:16 PM
I've never considered days logged in the wall tent before. First one was when I was 15, and it's been 10+ days a year since then. Some years significantly more than that. That was 20 years ago. 200+ days for sure.

Fine living right there.

I keep a log / guest book in each tent box. We write in it each trip. Where we were, how many days,any special happening or things we wish we had in the tent.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on May 25, 2019, 08:04:05 PM
Fired up my new Q pellet stove I got at the sportsman show and cured the paint. Hoping it keeps the tent warm this year. Taking the trusted cylinder stove just in case.

Got any pics of it?

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on May 25, 2019, 08:13:05 PM
Fired up my new Q pellet stove I got at the sportsman show and cured the paint. Hoping it keeps the tent warm this year. Taking the trusted cylinder stove just in case.

Got any pics of it?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 7mmfan on May 25, 2019, 08:17:36 PM
I've never considered days logged in the wall tent before. First one was when I was 15, and it's been 10+ days a year since then. Some years significantly more than that. That was 20 years ago. 200+ days for sure.

Fine living right there.

I keep a log / guest book in each tent box. We write in it each trip. Where we were, how many days,any special happening or things we wish we had in the tent.

That's a great idea.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on May 25, 2019, 08:30:56 PM
Fired up my new Q pellet stove I got at the sportsman show and cured the paint. Hoping it keeps the tent warm this year. Taking the trusted cylinder stove just in case.

Got any pics of it?

Real curious how this works out...I almost pulled the trigger on this at the show
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on May 25, 2019, 08:38:09 PM
Fired up my new Q pellet stove I got at the sportsman show and cured the paint. Hoping it keeps the tent warm this year. Taking the trusted cylinder stove just in case.

Got any pics of it?

Real curious how this works out...I almost pulled the trigger on this at the show
I will be posting results for sure.

We normally hunt late season where high temp in camp is 30, lows are in the single digits some years.

This year Iím going to montana for September elk hunting. Gonna take it for that as well. Iím sure it will be fine for that. It will be nice to not have to get wood.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on May 25, 2019, 08:46:14 PM
Yeah that looks like it would take up less space too.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Crunchy on May 25, 2019, 10:13:06 PM
Is it September yet?  All this wall tent and wood stove talk has me dreaming of Oregon's archery elk Aug 24th opener!! 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on May 25, 2019, 10:31:42 PM
I canít wait ,so I am getting out on some four day scouting trips in the tent.
Each month.
Best sleep all year in a wall tent.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Crunchy on May 25, 2019, 10:47:36 PM
Last year made three trips to Oregon for a total of 15 days in the wall tent.  It just doesnt get any better.  Heck if my back yard was bigger I could see putting up the wall tent and spending a few nights a month sleeping in it  :chuckle: No TV, no computer, no screaming kids, no electricity.   :camp:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on May 27, 2019, 05:22:47 PM
Fired up my new Q pellet stove I got at the sportsman show and cured the paint. Hoping it keeps the tent warm this year. Taking the trusted cylinder stove just in case.

Got any pics of it?

Real curious how this works out...I almost pulled the trigger on this at the show
I will be posting results for sure.

We normally hunt late season where high temp in camp is 30, lows are in the single digits some years.

This year Iím going to montana for September elk hunting. Gonna take it for that as well. Iím sure it will be fine for that. It will be nice to not have to get wood.

I hunt late season in Idaho about 6500 ft and it gets cold there , that's why I contemplated it. My cousin brought a diesel heater last year and it burned us out of the tent. I'm just looking at other options when he can't bring his along.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on June 03, 2019, 11:32:38 AM
I noticed last season that a couple threads were coming loose on my door zipper of #2 tent.
Planning to set it up in couple weeks and work on that issue.

I have been thinking of cutting the treads and than putting a drop of super glue on the end.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on June 03, 2019, 03:31:27 PM
 my canvas tore in a couple spots by the zipper and I got strips of canvas for both sides and used this stuff and it worked great

(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/6udQJ7M0Bz6JyqnSybzI4g--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD00MDA7dz00MDA-/https://www.aleenes.com/content/images/thumbs/0003822_aleenes-super-fabric-adhesive.jpeg.cf.jpg)
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 13, 2019, 08:54:29 PM
Ok
Got # 2 up today after a extensive honey do list. Sitting in it now in the back yard as I post this. Wishing we were in the mountains.

So got this little issue on one door zipper. Last year I had to wiz like a race horse in the wee hours and couldnít get the zipper un stuck. We had the other door blocked with a table.
Vowed I would fix that problem before next camp.
So before I tackle this in am. Looking for any suggestions.

Hereís the photo.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 13, 2019, 08:57:24 PM
Another

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 13, 2019, 09:26:32 PM
I'd do fabric scissors, really fine ones, and trim that back. I have a pair I use for carpet. Really fine work.  Maybe hand stitch it back from the zipper.

Not a wall tent, but got my Seek Outside 8 man up, and it is huge.  Burned in the XL stove, last winter. Can't wait for cooler weather.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 13, 2019, 09:48:59 PM
I'd do fabric scissors, really fine ones, and trim that back. I have a pair I use for carpet. Really fine work.  Maybe hand stitch it back from the zipper.

Not a wall tent, but got my Seek Outside 8 man up, and it is huge.  Burned in the XL stove, last winter. Can't wait for cooler weather.

Yeah my wife said cut back and use fray stop.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Oh Mah on July 14, 2019, 09:30:06 AM
I suggest no cut back and just lay flat all frays and super glue to the side of tent  :twocents:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 14, 2019, 03:29:31 PM
I suggest no cut back and just lay flat all frays and super glue to the side of tent  :twocents:

Well did a little of both. But on most layer flat and glued with Bishs Tear Mender.
Little more forgiving than the super glue.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 14, 2019, 03:38:11 PM
All tackled the  mud drips from last year.
Had time to dry it out when I got home last year but no time to clean.

But got to it today.

Before and after.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 14, 2019, 03:41:11 PM
Used

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 15, 2019, 09:27:59 AM
Tear mender works great...I had the seam from my zipper rip and I had some scraps from the door getting replaced. So I cut strips for each size and sandwiched the tear and glued them together and it held up last season just fine
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 16, 2019, 07:33:03 AM
Letís talk about snow loads.

It has been 20 years since I was in a tent in heavy snow fall. That tent had a external frame and I woke up with it 4 inches from my face. Spent a cold night in the truck cab.

Now that I have a couple wall tents I been thinking of preventive measures.

For those of you have seen a wall tent crushed. Where were the weak spots?
I suspect the rafters.

And what can be done?  Extra upright pole inside to support ridge?
Flys help?

Planning for the big one.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 16, 2019, 07:41:29 AM
I haven't seen a crushed tent but I would think extra rafters would help tremendously and a tarp would let the snow slide off ..I have 4 rafters and use a tarp on my 15x17 and have had 3-4" of snow over night with no issues
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 7mmfan on July 16, 2019, 08:27:36 AM
We have a 15x18 Davis Tent with the external pole kit and the internal ridge with 1 support. We've had it in massive snow a few times. Our m.o. has always been to tarp our tent because snow slides off of it so much easier. Most of the time if you get more than a couple inches on it, the snow begins to sluff off on it's own, especially if the tent is heated. We have had to bump it from inside the tent a few times to facilitate the sliding. Just bumping it with a broom or shovel or whatever long handled item you have around. Never have had any issues with snow load if you just take a little bit of time to make sure it doesn't accumulate.

Our tarp setup is a 20x30 heavy gray tarp. We put grommets in where the vertical supports for the tent come through at either end and we cut out the stove pipe hole and lined it with heat reflective tape. We are able to have a 12' long awning out in front of the tent that is effectively weather proof and that is where we do all our cooking when we have larger groups in camp. It is a great area to have for storage out of the weather as well.

I'm sure I have a picture on my hard drive at home, I'll take a look tonight.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 16, 2019, 10:51:01 AM
We have a 15x18 Davis Tent with the external pole kit and the internal ridge with 1 support. We've had it in massive snow a few times. Our m.o. has always been to tarp our tent because snow slides off of it so much easier. Most of the time if you get more than a couple inches on it, the snow begins to sluff off on it's own, especially if the tent is heated. We have had to bump it from inside the tent a few times to facilitate the sliding. Just bumping it with a broom or shovel or whatever long handled item you have around. Never have had any issues with snow load if you just take a little bit of time to make sure it doesn't accumulate.

Our tarp setup is a 20x30 heavy gray tarp. We put grommets in where the vertical supports for the tent come through at either end and we cut out the stove pipe hole and lined it with heat reflective tape. We are able to have a 12' long awning out in front of the tent that is effectively weather proof and that is where we do all our cooking when we have larger groups in camp. It is a great area to have for storage out of the weather as well.

I'm sure I have a picture on my hard drive at home, I'll take a look tonight.

I have made the tarps for both mine just like you did. When I am not using the stove it has a flap like the stove jack.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 7mmfan on July 16, 2019, 11:14:40 AM
We haven't gone as far as the flap because we're pretty much always using the stove.  :chuckle: Really though if we're in the wall tent, we're using the stove not just for heating/drying but for cooking as well. We cook a fair amount of our easy meals, coffee, plain old hot water, etc.. on the wood stove. If the weather is inclement enough to warrant the stove/wall tent, we usually just sleep in the back of the truck, smaller tent, tarp shelter, etc...
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 16, 2019, 11:37:16 AM
We haven't gone as far as the flap because we're pretty much always using the stove.  :chuckle: Really though if we're in the wall tent, we're using the stove not just for heating/drying but for cooking as well. We cook a fair amount of our easy meals, coffee, plain old hot water, etc.. on the wood stove. If the weather is inclement enough to warrant the stove/wall tent, we usually just sleep in the back of the truck, smaller tent, tarp shelter, etc...

Oh yeah I like the stove.
But I don't cook in the wall tents.
And during muzzy in this state , fire restrictions keep us from setting up the stoves. We always have them with us incase the weather changes.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 7mmfan on July 16, 2019, 12:11:08 PM
You also get to spend a month or more in camp, we haven't gotten to do that in a long time! The wall tent that time of year makes a lot more sense for you. Just a little jealous.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 16, 2019, 07:40:01 PM
You also get to spend a month or more in camp, we haven't gotten to do that in a long time! The wall tent that time of year makes a lot more sense for you. Just a little jealous.

True

I enjoy a lot of time in the wall tents. I pay for it through the year often working 10 day stretches. Three hours sleep in 24 hrs this week. And the phone rings most nights at home. I am salary so I log the extra hours as comp time and take them during the slow season which happens to be hunting season.
Best sleep I get is in a wall tent with no cell service.

Two more years and I am going to double up on wall tent time.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 16, 2019, 07:41:32 PM
Nobody  has crushed tent snow story? :dunno:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ipkus on July 16, 2019, 08:45:08 PM
Nobody  has crushed tent snow story? :dunno:

Run a tarp tight and it wonít ever happen!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: MHWASH on July 16, 2019, 08:56:24 PM
You can see in this pic the difference between the heated and non heated portions of the tarp. We woke up about 6Ē on snow that morning. The nonheated part of the tarp was sagging with the snow. The heat part just melted or slid off.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Geoffphrye123456 on July 17, 2019, 02:05:10 PM
Not sure if this is a wall tent :dunno: tip/trick or just a cheap skate HACK.

6" flue from 55 Gallon wood stove in tent.
I plan on putting a chimney brush in the top most section of pipe.
IMO it should act as a pretty good spark arrestor without inhibiting flow...

thoughts???

AND if the stack needs cleaning.... well I'm one step closer than most :)

Jeff
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 17, 2019, 03:08:30 PM
Not sure if this is a wall tent :dunno: tip/trick or just a cheap skate HACK.

6" flue from 55 Gallon wood stove in tent.
I plan on putting a chimney brush in the top most section of pipe.
IMO it should act as a pretty good spark arrestor without inhibiting flow...

thoughts???

AND if the stack needs cleaning.... well I'm one step closer than most :)

Jeff

Ummm
I have no idea.

But I would bet that it plugs up depending on wood you are burning.
In Eastern wa itís hard to get away without burning pine.

I have not found a arrestor that doesn't t plug up. So I run with a elbow on top of my stack.
I minimize sparks not only for fire safety but tent safety, by not using kindling, cedar, or paper in any of the tent stoves. We use fire starter and hand propane torches with the driest wood we can find.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: baker5150 on July 17, 2019, 03:23:41 PM
Not sure if this is a wall tent :dunno: tip/trick or just a cheap skate HACK.

6" flue from 55 Gallon wood stove in tent.
I plan on putting a chimney brush in the top most section of pipe.
IMO it should act as a pretty good spark arrestor without inhibiting flow...

thoughts???

AND if the stack needs cleaning.... well I'm one step closer than most :)

Jeff

I think this will work too well, depending on what your burning, you'll more than likely plug that sucker up.  You'll most likely see some draft issues as well.

If you need one, just hose clamp a piece of SS 1/4" mesh on the end of the pipe.  Simple and effective, won't clog up very easily, and easy to clean when/if it does.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on July 17, 2019, 03:26:15 PM
Like others have said I think that will clog for sure.  Of course my spark arrestor plugs also.  I just think that one will clog faster and also create lack of draft issues as mentioned above.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Geoffphrye123456 on July 18, 2019, 10:08:27 AM
Thank you all for the great comments!!
I am going to do a test burn this weekend to check the up-draft and clogging... as best I can
Its not going to be -3 in WA this weekend... and I do not have the hunt area logs to burn :)

I am very worried about sparks getting out and landing on the tent. My tent <See restoration post here https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,240936.0.html (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,240936.0.html)> is old enough, I don't need any more holes in it.
I know that "no sparks" means a tight mesh/low draft....

I feel like there is a trade off, or happy medium that will come out of this

Jeff
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: elksnout on July 18, 2019, 09:30:08 PM
Hey Ghost Hunter where did you buy that cleaner?

Thanks
Elksnout
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 19, 2019, 11:45:02 AM
Bought it From Reliable Tent and Tipi. But ebay has it.

Search on line.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: elksnout on July 19, 2019, 08:09:49 PM
Bought it From Reliable Tent and Tipi. But ebay has it.

Search on line.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: MHWASH on July 20, 2019, 07:58:12 AM
What are you guys using for floors? I need to replace the tarp Iíve been using, and was wondering if there is something quieter and lays flatter.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 20, 2019, 08:55:15 AM
What are you guys using for floors? I need to replace the tarp Iíve been using, and was wondering if there is something quieter and lays flatter.

My #1 tent came with a poly floor that snaps in.

My #2 tent came with a heavy poly floor.

I put a regular tarp under both keeps them cleaner.

I have a coupe four foot runner mats I throw down in the traffic area.

In the cook shack we use straw to keep the dust down.

Under the wood stove we use one of those oil drip pans for you garage. We write on the drip pan every where the tent was set up and the year.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 20, 2019, 05:40:26 PM
I throw a tarp down then I have a big heavy canvas tarp for the floor
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 7mmfan on July 20, 2019, 05:44:47 PM
Tarp and then a big leftover piece of carpet from when we recarpeted the house. So nice to step into that in the middle of the night instead of a cold trap or canvas.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: MHWASH on July 20, 2019, 08:12:15 PM
Tarp and then a big leftover piece of carpet from when we recarpeted the house. So nice to step into that in the middle of the night instead of a cold trap or canvas.

Pretty much what Iím doing now, must be the way to go.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Alchase on July 21, 2019, 03:49:04 PM
I use bath and shower mats I front of my tent door and along next to my cot.
Sure make those cold mornings a lot mor pleasant.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: bearpaw on July 21, 2019, 04:01:12 PM
 :yeah:  I like to use small carpets at the cots.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 21, 2019, 09:03:53 PM
My tent/floor isn't cold when we wake up...we run a diesel heater all night and it stays atleast 60+ in the tent..nice and toasty
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Geoffphrye123456 on July 22, 2019, 08:45:22 AM
Thank you all for the great comments!!
I am going to do a test burn this weekend to check the up-draft and clogging... as best I can
Its not going to be -3 in WA this weekend... and I do not have the hunt area logs to burn :)

I am very worried about sparks getting out and landing on the tent. My tent <See restoration post here https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,240936.0.html (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,240936.0.html)> is old enough, I don't need any more holes in it.
I know that "no sparks" means a tight mesh/low draft....

I feel like there is a trade off, or happy medium that will come out of this

Jeff

FAIL :bash: :bdid:
Ran the stove this weekend for only a couple of hours. Dry Cedar to test the spark arrestor function of the cleaner. (That part worked AMAZING)...
But it also caught EVERYTHING... so I can see how it would clog for sure after many hours of sustained use.

PLAN B: wire mesh insert like others have used

Jeff
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 22, 2019, 11:56:51 AM
Thanks for the update
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: jrebel on July 23, 2019, 08:08:48 AM
These lux pro lights are pretty amazing.  They are small and compact, they put out a ton of light and they hang with magnets to the tent frame.  I will be purchasing 6 more for camp life.   :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 23, 2019, 08:24:22 PM
These lux pro lights are pretty amazing.  They are small and compact, they put out a ton of light and they hang with magnets to the tent frame.  I will be purchasing 6 more for camp life.   :tup: :tup:

Those are real nice.

I am a sucker for lights. My wife says when I am gone she will have to have sale of just lights. I love lights :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 23, 2019, 08:38:21 PM
We are using these hung from carabiners on Ridge.
Three packs from Costco. Very bright.
Also have red setting and blink too.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: jrebel on July 23, 2019, 08:58:42 PM
We are using these hung from carabiners on Ridge.
Three packs from Costco. Very bright.
Also have red setting and blink too.

What kind of battery do those take?  I went and bought three more packs of the lux pro tonight while they are still on sale.  Now I have 10 lights.  I am thinking of getting one of their 1000 lumen lanterns too.  If I had one or two of the lanterns I could leave all the propane lanters at home.  I also like lights.......I love the idea of not worrying about the glass globes of the lanterns......I have broken my fair share. 

https://www.amazon.com/LUX-PRO-LP371-Variable-Broadbeam-Lantern/dp/B06XKBDX8C/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=lux+pro+1000+lumen+lantern&qid=1563940678&s=gateway&sr=8-3
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on July 23, 2019, 10:02:06 PM
We are using these hung from carabiners on Ridge.
Three packs from Costco. Very bright.
Also have red setting and blink too.

What kind of battery do those take?  I went and bought three more packs of the lux pro tonight while they are still on sale.  Now I have 10 lights.  I am thinking of getting one of their 1000 lumen lanterns too.  If I had one or two of the lanterns I could leave all the propane lanters at home.  I also like lights.......I love the idea of not worrying about the glass globes of the lanterns......I have broken my fair share. 

https://www.amazon.com/LUX-PRO-LP371-Variable-Broadbeam-Lantern/dp/B06XKBDX8C/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=lux+pro+1000+lumen+lantern&qid=1563940678&s=gateway&sr=8-3

AA
And they come with them .Three per lantern.
Iran them for two weeks at night.
Left one on for three weeks outside tent for nature calls on red.
Costco,Burlington had them 20.00 at first than had them 8.00 off two weeks ago.
Bought three more packs.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: MHWASH on August 22, 2019, 05:59:14 PM
Iím starting to read the whole thread over, again. Does anybody have a list that they can post up that people could print off if we were so inclined?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 22, 2019, 06:15:33 PM
Iím starting to read the whole thread over, again. Does anybody have a list that they can post up that people could print off if we were so inclined?

List of what?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: MHWASH on August 22, 2019, 06:58:38 PM
Iím starting to read the whole thread over, again. Does anybody have a list that they can post up that people could print off if we were so inclined?

List of what?
Everything you bring with you for the tent.
A lot of my gear needs to be taken from either my camper or my backpacking tote. Iíd hate to forget my coffee pot, or Johnny Pee.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 22, 2019, 07:26:13 PM
Iím starting to read the whole thread over, again. Does anybody have a list that they can post up that people could print off if we were so inclined?

List of what?
Everything you bring with you for the tent.
A lot of my gear needs to be taken from either my camper or my backpacking tote. Iíd hate to forget my coffee pot, or Johnny Pee.

Wood stove
Firestarter
Tent
Fly
Tent stakes
Frame
Tent floor
Table
Cot
Chair
Cook kit
Cook stove
Battery lanterns
Stakes
Rope
Flashlight
Potty
Ladder
Water
Shovel
Rake
Bale of seedless straw
Ground tarp
Door mat
Propane torch

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: MHWASH on August 22, 2019, 08:09:31 PM
Thanks, thatís a great start.

Has anyone tried one of those sun screens you put in a car window to deflect the heat on the tent wall? I typically use a piece of corigated roofing tin, but Iím trying to lighten and uncluttered what I take.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 26, 2019, 12:10:06 PM
Thanks, thatís a great start.

Has anyone tried one of those sun screens you put in a car window to deflect the heat on the tent wall? I typically use a piece of corigated roofing tin, but Iím trying to lighten and uncluttered what I take.

I guess you are talking behind the wood stove?
I use to worry about it but now that I  have logged 100 plus days in the tent. I don't put any thing behind the store.

Some folks have used welding blankets and survival blankets.

Under the stove I use a oil drip tray like you use in your garage. I record every where the tent is set up each year on the drip tray. I also marked where the tray goes on the floor to cut down on set up time.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: KopperBuck on August 26, 2019, 01:00:12 PM

Under the stove I use a oil drip tray like you use in your garage. I record every where the tent is set up each year on the drip tray. I also marked where the tray goes on the floor to cut down on set up time.

Help my stupid out here.. what is the purpose of setting them in there, to keep off the floor? Aren't they usually plastic, no concern there?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Buckmark on August 26, 2019, 01:05:29 PM

Under the stove I use a oil drip tray like you use in your garage. I record every where the tent is set up each year on the drip tray. I also marked where the tray goes on the floor to cut down on set up time.

Help my stupid out here.. what is the purpose of setting them in there, to keep off the floor? Aren't they usually plastic, no concern there?
They are made of metal, not plastic..
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 26, 2019, 05:39:30 PM

Under the stove I use a oil drip tray like you use in your garage. I record every where the tent is set up each year on the drip tray. I also marked where the tray goes on the floor to cut down on set up time.

Help my stupid out here.. what is the purpose of setting them in there, to keep off the floor? Aren't they usually plastic, no concern there?
They are made of metal, not plastic..

Yep metal
I crowd the stove to the back edge so when you open the door any hot stuff falls on the metal.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: MHWASH on August 26, 2019, 07:19:20 PM
Thanks, thatís a great start.

Has anyone tried one of those sun screens you put in a car window to deflect the heat on the tent wall? I typically use a piece of corigated roofing tin, but Iím trying to lighten and uncluttered what I take.

I guess you are talking behind the wood stove?
I use to worry about it but now that I  have logged 100 plus days in the tent. I don't put any thing behind the store.

Some folks have used welding blankets and survival blankets.

Under the stove I use a oil drip tray like you use in your garage. I record every where the tent is set up each year on the drip tray. I also marked where the tray goes on the floor to cut down on set up time.

Iím thinking to deflect the back into the tent. Right now we use a street sign in the back and one under the stove.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on August 26, 2019, 07:28:41 PM
I would leave that at home and get a wood stove fan.

My two tents are 10x12s and my stove heat them real well.

Our cook shack is 10x 20 and the Three dog keeps it 60.


Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Alchase on August 27, 2019, 06:56:15 PM
These lux pro lights are pretty amazing.  They are small and compact, they put out a ton of light and they hang with magnets to the tent frame.  I will be purchasing 6 more for camp life.   :tup: :tup:

I picked up a pair of the lights over the weekend.
They are a lot smaller then I expected, and not as bright as I expected.
But, then I realized, inside a tent at night, they would be perfect. The last thing I want is a gazillion lumin light at night in my tent, LOL
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: KopperBuck on August 27, 2019, 06:58:31 PM

Under the stove I use a oil drip tray like you use in your garage. I record every where the tent is set up each year on the drip tray. I also marked where the tray goes on the floor to cut down on set up time.

Help my stupid out here.. what is the purpose of setting them in there, to keep off the floor? Aren't they usually plastic, no concern there?
They are made of metal, not plastic..

Thanks. I've only seen plastic ones.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: jrebel on August 27, 2019, 08:34:57 PM
These lux pro lights are pretty amazing.  They are small and compact, they put out a ton of light and they hang with magnets to the tent frame.  I will be purchasing 6 more for camp life.   :tup: :tup:

I picked up a pair of the lights over the weekend.
They are a lot smaller then I expected, and not as bright as I expected.
But, then I realized, inside a tent at night, they would be perfect. The last thing I want is a gazillion lumin light at night in my tent, LOL

4 of them in my 15x18 was very bright.  I also bought two of the 1000 lumen lux pro lanterns....now those are stupid bright!!!!!   :yike: :yike:  I love how small and compact the triangle lights are for packing.  I also love how they stow to protect the lenses.  I own 10 of them now for my tent / camp. 
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Alchase on August 28, 2019, 07:45:12 PM
I also picked up some fantastic small form factor flashlights from Coast that put out 345 lumens and only 3 inches long, running two AAs.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on September 01, 2019, 08:57:22 AM
Ooooh

1 month 3 days away from 20 days in the wall tent. Canít wait. Time to get organized.
 :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Alchase on September 01, 2019, 05:30:08 PM
I have to wait till mid November  :bash:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 01, 2019, 09:44:34 PM
Since the wall tent tips and tricks thread is 34 pages long, it would very much seem that the "trick" is to NOT have one  :yike:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on September 01, 2019, 10:47:26 PM
I have to wait till mid November  :bash:
Me too normally but we are headed to montana next weekend and taking the wall tent. Looking forward to getting a little extra use this year.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on September 02, 2019, 02:57:13 PM
Since the wall tent tips and tricks thread is 34 pages long, it would very much seem that the "trick" is to NOT have one  :yike:

Lots of great ideas and advice for the guy just coming along into wall tents.
Most this stuff we had to learn the hard way.
I donít think wall tents are that hard andI am 68this year. But there was a learning curve.

And good info like ď When your stove pipe came loose in the wind, where did it separate?Ē
Well everyone who had that happen saidĒat the stoveĒ

Good I tell right there. Secure the pipe to the stove with screws or wire.
Priceless info for the beginner. :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Alchase on September 02, 2019, 05:24:01 PM
 :yeah:

I donít use a wall tent, I use a Cabelas Wind River 9í x 12í dome tent. But most of these tips and tricks can be used by any one who likes to tent.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 02, 2019, 07:39:36 PM
Since the wall tent tips and tricks thread is 34 pages long, it would very much seem that the "trick" is to NOT have one  :yike:

Lots of great ideas and advice for the guy just coming along into wall tents.
Most this stuff we had to learn the hard way.
I donít think wall tents are that hard andI am 68this year. But there was a learning curve.

And good info like ď When your stove pipe came loose in the wind, where did it separate?Ē
Well everyone who had that happen saidĒat the stoveĒ

Good I tell right there. Secure the pipe to the stove with screws or wire.
Priceless info for the beginner. :tup:

I was poking some fun

There really is nothing like wall tent camping in later seasons :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: MHWASH on September 12, 2019, 07:30:07 PM
Has anyone used straw for a floor inside the tent? Obviously with carpet by the cot and something under the stove.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Alchase on September 12, 2019, 07:56:58 PM
Has anyone used straw for a floor inside the tent? Obviously with carpet by the cot and something under the stove.

No, it would make a mess inside my tent  :dunno:

Sorry, could not refuse.  :chuckle:

Would it attract or hide mice?
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on September 12, 2019, 08:36:19 PM
Has anyone used straw for a floor inside the tent? Obviously with carpet by the cot and something under the stove.

No, it would make a mess inside my tent  :dunno:

Sorry, could not refuse.  :chuckle:

Would it attract or hide mice?

I donít use straw inside the tent. However I do sprinkle some lightly on the ground under the ground cloth. Makes clean up lots nicer. I do spread straw around the outside of the tent so in heavy rain dirt doesnít splat up on the canvas.

We do have a Costco canopy cook shack and we do use the straw on the floor to keep dust down.
Last year I tried something new. I put 24 hour mouse traps around the cook shack and 50 feet away I used cotton balls around two tents with peppermint oil on them.
In. 14 days I never had a mouse around the tents but caught several around the cook shack.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: 7mmfan on September 13, 2019, 08:04:08 AM
Two years ago was the first time I added mouse traps to my camp box. I can't tell you how many we've caught now. It's quite satisfying to be lying on your cot listening to fire crackle in the stove as you drift off to sleep and hear a loud SNAP! from outside the tent. I sleep quite soundly now.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: frazierw on September 13, 2019, 08:14:00 AM
I got a 16x20 wall tent for christmas last year, and I am psyched to use it this year.  This thread has been great for information!  I'm gonna pick up some of those Luxe lights before the season.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: MHWASH on September 15, 2019, 08:22:50 AM
Weíve never had an issue with mice in our tent. We camp in dispursed campsites, not a camp ground, maybe thatís the difference?

Also considering going floor less this year with the exception of a rug next to my cot. Trying to down size from a 20í horse trailer, dad brings a lot of extra stuff, to just a Ford Ranger with canopy and small open utility trailer.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on September 15, 2019, 10:12:58 AM
Weíve never had an issue with mice in our tent. We camp in dispursed campsites, not a camp ground, maybe thatís the difference?

Also considering going floor less this year with the exception of a rug next to my cot. Trying to down size from a 20í horse trailer, dad brings a lot of extra stuff, to just a Ford Ranger with canopy and small open utility trailer.

We camp in u developed areas too. Just depends on the area I think. Down at  Bethel never see a mouse. Up at Twisp all over the place.

Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ipkus on September 15, 2019, 01:29:38 PM
We donít use straw in the tent but late season hunts when it is really cold we will use a bail spread out around the perimeter of the tent and it really helps seal up any drafts around the bottom.  It makes a noticeable difference.
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: ghosthunter on September 15, 2019, 01:48:59 PM
We donít use straw in the tent but late season hunts when it is really cold we will use a bail spread out around the perimeter of the tent and it really helps seal up any drafts around the bottom.  It makes a noticeable difference.

 :yeah: :tup:
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rainier10 on September 16, 2019, 01:24:04 PM
Lux pro lights worked pretty well in the tent last week.

The Q stove did not perform so well. :(
Title: Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
Post by: MHWASH on September 17, 2019, 11:52:01 AM
Any idea how much coal It takes to keep a 12x14 warm all night long? I have access to a unlimited amount, but donít want to bring too much.