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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: jasnt on July 05, 2019, 06:00:54 PM
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First component of the build got picked up today.
Savage 112 target magnum in 338 lapua. I was going to sell this barrel but I just couldn’t help but play with it. Loaded up a preasure test with h1000 and 300 gr bergers. Found a nice node at 2935. I’ll play with that till she levels out. The target accu trigger is nice. Set at 1.5lbs for now, may lighten it up a bit more. Brake definitely tames the recoil, was like shooting a 308
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Sweet.! I can't wait to see the progress.
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That’s moving for a factory 338 LM.
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That’s moving for a factory 338 LM.
my thoughts too. Had a slight crater of the firing pin but nice round conners and no ejector swipe. Bolt opens with one finger. 2975 has slightly stiff bolt lift and I backed off
Using magneto speed so I trust the speed
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Not sure what was up with my v3 yesterday day but could not duplicate that load today. Speeds where all over with es of 45. Dropped down to 94gr h1000 and 2816fps. With es of 3 and 1/2 moa. Hope to stretch it out tomorrow.
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Am I reading that right, you dropped down to 94gr H1000?! And that's with the 300 or 250 gr. Bergers?? Either way and even seated way out, that's well above book max. With 300's you're almost 10gr above Berger's book max and with 250's your 4gr above their book max.
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Yes 300gr and yes 94gr. No preasure signs what so ever. With hornady brass no less and cci 250’s and jammed 20k. I’m comfortable with the load
This scale has never been calibrated so who knows what the charge really weighs. All my cartridges end up over book max
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This is from Hodgdon. I’m 2gr over their max listed and not compressed. My col is 3.930
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I would have expected you col to be quite a bit longer.
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I would have expected you col to be quite a bit longer.
it would be if I hadn’t sent yorke his unithroater back lol. This thing could be taken out quite a bit. Should have my new barrel ready to mount up in a couple months or so. May just ream this barrel to 33xc since I’ll have the dies and go/gage anyway
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94 gr is max on my 3.95 coal 300 gr Lapua but thats with 215 primers and SMK's. With a slow batch of h1000 and cci's with Bergers I could could squeeze in another grain.
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Dropped down to 94gr h1000 and 2816fps. With es of 3 and 1/2 moa.
This is where I'm at with H1000 and a 28" tube. Generally use rl33 or n570 to get up in the 2845-2870 range
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Die set is on its way and brass will be next week. Still waiting for reamer and gages
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Hurry up and build this! I'm out of good ideas and I need to live vicariously through you. :chuckle:
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Hurry up and build this! I'm out of good ideas and I need to live vicariously through you. :chuckle:
its coming along. Looking forward to getting it up and running
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Dies came today and barrel and reamer are ordered.
338 Lapua left 37 xc right
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Happy camper
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Happy camper
Looks like someone scored and has a lighter wallet.
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What the hell are you hunting with that thing, rhino?
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What lot of H1000 is that?
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What the hell are you hunting with that thing, rhino?
squatch :o :chuckle: mostly rocks and steel.
What lot of H1000 is that?
ill have to go check
Happy camper
Looks like someone scored and has a lighter wallet.
:IBCOOL: Hows your build coming along
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You better hope your barrel like H1000! :chuckle:
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You better hope your barrel like H1000! :chuckle:
picking up a jug of retumbo next week hopefully. But all my other guns love h1000 so it’s a win win
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Happy camper
Looks like someone scored and has a lighter wallet.
[/quote] :IBCOOL: Hows your build coming along
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I’ve got everything to finish, I’m just lacking the time to get it put together and painted, once I get the action and barrel duracoated then I can get the stock bedded and painted.
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T5 terminator should be here Friday
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T5 terminator should be here Friday
Excellent choice! Those brakes are amazing.
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T5 terminator should be here Friday
Excellent choice! Those brakes are amazing.
great reviews, few folks recommended the t4 but for a sub 25lb .375 I’ll go T5. Plus the T4 would be smaller than my muzzle
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I used a T4 on the 338 SnipeTac rifle and a T5 on the pistol. Both guns were the same weight but the T5 was noticeably more effective, and noticeably louder! :chuckle:
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I used a T4 on the 338 SnipeTac rifle and a T5 on the pistol. Both guns were the same weight but the T5 was noticeably more effective, and noticeably louder! :chuckle:
i figure the t5 will grow with my obsession.
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One more peace checked off
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That there is a beautiful thing!
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My thoughts exactly
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My thoughts exactly
Unless your hands are very small that thing is huge, I like it.
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My thoughts exactly
Unless your hands are very small that thing is huge, I like it.
13.5 OZ. DIMENSIONS – 4.45″ LONG X 1.50″ O.D.
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Sweet! I have a T4 and like it but didnt find it better than 5 port mbm brake made in idaho for much less. With that rifle anything less than T5 hurts to think about.
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Sweet! I have a T4 and like it but didnt find it better than 5 port mbm brake made in idaho for much less. With that rifle anything less than T5 hurts to think about.
it helps when your an ogre, it’s more like an anvil behind the rifle than a person. :chuckle:
But it’s also nice to spot your own hits
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BlkLeBkctn8
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Just the waiting game now. Everything is ordered including a good stash of components
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Just the waiting game now. Everything is ordered including a good stash of components
:tup: Can't wait to see the progress! Please list the parts of your build.
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The waiting, is always the worst part.
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Just the waiting game now. Everything is ordered including a good stash of components
:tup: Can't wait to see the progress! Please list the parts of your build.
McGowen 1:10 32” straight/no taper barrel threaded 7/8x20 and t5 muzzle brake. Ptg custom reamer
Tubbs die set. Pretty much just a barrel swap on the savage 112
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Been looking at getting a chassis for this thing but not liking the options. Stock is ok and I did bed it and does have pillars but it just doesn’t fit me quite right and cheek rest could be higher.
338 barrel has smoothed out nice. Was able to drop down to 93gr of h1000 and still stay in my node at 2825.
I hate waiting!!!!
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Thats the same load i use in my 338 Edge. Having guns built is a very difficult wait.
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Been looking at getting a chassis for this thing but not liking the options. Stock is ok and I did bed it and does have pillars but it just doesn’t fit me quite right and cheek rest could be higher.
338 barrel has smoothed out nice. Was able to drop down to 93gr of h1000 and still stay in my node at 2825.
I hate waiting!!!!
Do you have an idea what kind of chassis you're looking for? It's tough to find them for single shot rifles.
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Been looking at getting a chassis for this thing but not liking the options. Stock is ok and I did bed it and does have pillars but it just doesn’t fit me quite right and cheek rest could be higher.
338 barrel has smoothed out nice. Was able to drop down to 93gr of h1000 and still stay in my node at 2825.
I hate waiting!!!!
Do you have an idea what kind of chassis you're looking for? It's tough to find them for single shot rifles.
dosent need to be a single shot chassis. It will fit any la savage chassis with top bolt release. I’m only running front and rear action screws now and it shoots better than it did. Need long forend, adjustable length and cheek and buttpad cant. Wanted an other XLR evolution but they don’t do la savage. May go mdt and use XLR buttstock also looking at vendetta precision but they are new and no reviews plus this is their first run of chassis so I’m nervous but the price is low due to preorder. I’d like to keep it under 1400
http://vendettaprecision.com/vp-cbrc-savage-la-rifle-chassis-kit/
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Brass came in today
Left to right
308, 338 Lapua, 37XC.
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That will eat up some powder :tup:
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Jasnt, Which trigger is in this beast? How does it feel and what are the pull weights you are getting?
I’m thinking of getting a rifle basix trigger for mine. Not sure though. I have discovered that Rem 700 platforms have way more trigger options.
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Jasnt, Which trigger is in this beast? How does it feel and what are the pull weights you are getting?
I’m thinking of getting a rifle basix trigger for mine. Not sure though. I have discovered that Rem 700 platforms have way more trigger options.
its a target accu-trigger. It’s set at 1.5lbs. I like it much better than my timmeny
I’m a rem fan through and through but this savage is making me smile!
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Jasnt, Which trigger is in this beast? How does it feel and what are the pull weights you are getting?
I’m thinking of getting a rifle basix trigger for mine. Not sure though. I have discovered that Rem 700 platforms have way more trigger options.
its a target accu-trigger. It’s set at 1.5lbs. I like it much better than my timmeny
I’m a rem fan through and through but this savage is making me smile!
Lowest I can get mine down to is 3.5lbs. You may have this new build finished before i get mine done..lol
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tag!
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Jasnt, Which trigger is in this beast? How does it feel and what are the pull weights you are getting?
I’m thinking of getting a rifle basix trigger for mine. Not sure though. I have discovered that Rem 700 platforms have way more trigger options.
its a target accu-trigger. It’s set at 1.5lbs. I like it much better than my timmeny
I’m a rem fan through and through but this savage is making me smile!
Lowest I can get mine down to is 3.5lbs. You may have this new build finished before i get mine done..lol
the target accu trigger is different from the normal accu trigger. It can be turned down to 8oz. it comes set at 1.5 and I’m happy with that.
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Jasnt, Which trigger is in this beast? How does it feel and what are the pull weights you are getting?
I’m thinking of getting a rifle basix trigger for mine. Not sure though. I have discovered that Rem 700 platforms have way more trigger options.
its a target accu-trigger. It’s set at 1.5lbs. I like it much better than my timmeny
I’m a rem fan through and through but this savage is making me smile!
Lowest I can get mine down to is 3.5lbs. You may have this new build finished before i get mine done..lol
the target accu trigger is different from the normal accu trigger. It can be turned down to 8oz. it comes set at 1.5 and I’m happy with that.
I’ll search around and see if I can find one. I’m sure it will fit a standard 116 action.
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If you lived closer I’d let you come try it out
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Not bad for a factory rifle
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You're going to burn up that barrel before you can get your 37xc built. :chuckle:
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You're going to burn up that barrel before you can get your 37xc built. :chuckle:
😂 who cares. It’s a consumable that’s keeping me pacified till then
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You're going to burn up that barrel before you can get your 37xc built. :chuckle:
Can’t blame a guy for keeping the rust off!
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Barrel showed up yesterday. Reamer should ship next week
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Barrel showed up yesterday. Reamer should ship next week
That’s like a 3lb brake..lol. :tup:
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Barrel showed up yesterday. Reamer should ship next week
That’s like a 3lb brake..lol. :tup:
13 1/2 oz if I remember right
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holy cow, that really puts the size into perspective!
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It’s a bit nose heavy in this stock. I may have to build a Bi-Pod extension if I keep this stock. It’s not horrible but could use some red neck engineering lol
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What is your expected weight going to be?
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I haven’t given it much thought
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Barrel is almost 10 lbs with the break. I’ll have to weigh it once I get it together
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Barrel is almost 10 lbs with the break. I’ll have to weigh it once I get it together
I’m guessing you’ll be around 21lbs.
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Ya that sounds about right and I’m ok with that. This won’t be anything other than a long range rig and the Occasional rogue coyote.
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Ya that sounds about right and I’m ok with that. This won’t be anything other than a long range rig and the Occasional rogue coyote.
I kinda figured this beast wouldn’t be a hunting gun, I mean what are you going to shoot T-Rex? I‘ve been looking at the bipods that some of these extreme long range shooters are using with their heavy guns.
What are you thinking for extending your bipod over the forend? Picatiny rail?
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ama_Z_Iqn8M
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Left to right
Warner flatline 361gr, 308, 300wm, 338 Lapua, 37XC w/350gr smk,37XC w/361gr flatline
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Reamer shipped today
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Do you already have a 416 Barrett and a .50BMG Ackley improved? Ackley should improve the 50bmg
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Do you already have a 416 Barrett and a .50BMG Ackley improved? Ackley should improve the 50bmg
Lots of room between this and the big 50. Suprised more hasn't been done in the world of wildcats to fill this gap.
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I’ve been thinking I’d like a 416 barret for my next build. But by then I may change my mind. But for now stock and optics are my next upgrades.
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That little Win Mag looks cute compared to the 375. :chuckle:
I've been thinking hard about a 416 Barret but I don't like the massive BMG actions. I had a reamer drawn up for a 458 off of the Barret case and I was very close to building it but found a good deal on a CheyTac action and got distracted. A 458 would give you more powder options, but fewer bullet choices.
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Got the barrel chambered about 1/4+ of the way. Only 3 more inches to go lol
458 would have better splash. When you go that big there are really only a few good choices any way. 650gr Lazer would definitely kick some splash
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What sort of chambering setup you got?
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What sort of chambering setup you got?
I chamber by hand like you would with a T handle from a tap and die set. It’s slow but has worked out well so far
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What sort of chambering setup you got?
I chamber by hand like you would with a T handle from a tap and die set. It’s slow but has worked out well so far
Interesting... What about threading?
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What sort of chambering setup you got?
I chamber by hand like you would with a T handle from a tap and die set. It’s slow but has worked out well so far
Interesting... What about threading?
all threading was done by McGowen. Barrel nut barrel
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Barrel is chambered. Got it just right so my brake is timed too :whoo:
Just gotta get it cleaned out and start working on load development. Some how my dummy rounds ended up .010” jammed.....just right :hunt2: :bfg:
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You still want that 8lb'er of Retumbo, no worries if you don't. I actually have two 8lb'ers if you're interested.
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That sounds like a lot of work to hand chamber a barrel. Curious to how aligned with the bore it ends up.
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You still want that 8lb'er of Retumbo, no worries if you don't. I actually have two 8lb'ers if you're interested.
yes I do!! both!!That sounds like a lot of work to hand chamber a barrel. Curious to how aligned with the bore it ends up.
last one I did Shot pretty good. The pilot follows the bore. It is a lot of work, but I enjoy it.
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You still want that 8lb'er of Retumbo, no worries if you don't. I actually have two 8lb'ers if you're interested.
yes I do!! both!!
Ok, was just checking to be sure.
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First 3 rounds down the tube
Just shot at the blank paper, then aimed at the bullet hole for next 2. Then legal shooting light ended
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I'd say that's a pretty good start!
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This thing is a pleasure to shoot! Less kick than my 243, can watch the bullet hits in my scope. Wow is it loud! About half way done with load development but have no clue on speed yet. Going to have to shoot it with out the break to use my magneto speed as the brake is too long. I did strap it on using the spacers and strap had to be on the brake. Bad idea. Strap was clean of the port but sill burnt the strap a bit and I quit that real quick. Starting load was 2900 with the 350gr smk. Been having troubles with cci 250’s. Two different lots and both are bad :bash: bunch of duds and few went off after 4th time the firing pin hits them. Switched to federal 215m and no issues. So far the worst load was 3/4 moa. Will check back when I finish load work and get speeds. Wish I had a lab radar for this.
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Wish we were neighbors haha!
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Wish we were neighbors haha!
Luckily most my neighbors are half deaf
I’d let ya shoot it
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Seems to be coming along good, speeds are definitely up there for the heavies. I would like to have one of the Labradars too, hopefully here in the future I'll buy one. I'm still using the old style Caldwell chrono which shows 1 of 3 shots :bash:
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Psa
Found out ms makes an adapter for huge mb’s.
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This may or may not interest you but thought I'd pass it along anyway, Hornady is coming out with a new 390gr .375 Cal A-Tip bullet. Per Hornady G1 .987 G7 .497
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If your having misfires with CCI 250’s you most likely have something wrong with your ignition in the bolt. I would first check firing pin fall. Pretty easy to do. You want to me at least .240”. I have seen this happen with certain triggers and the action not being timed. It does effect accuracy as well.
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If your having misfires with CCI 250’s you most likely have something wrong with your ignition in the bolt. I would first check firing pin fall. Pretty easy to do. You want to me at least .240”. I have seen this happen with certain triggers and the action not being timed. It does effect accuracy as well.
at .046 firing pin protrusion. Having the misfires in my 300wm aswell so I don’t think it’s the rifle. Both bad lots came from same store so I’m wondering if it’s a storage issue. Never had a problem with cci primers ever.
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This may or may not interest you but thought I'd pass it along anyway, Hornady is coming out with a new 390gr .375 Cal A-Tip bullet. Per Hornady G1 .987 G7 .497
may be worth a try if they will stabilize in 1:10
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It’s how much it falls measuring from the bolt head. Not how much it sticks out of the bolt face. It’s how much slam the firing pin has against the primer. Timney are known for this. Except the elite.
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Neither have a timmeny trigger. The 300 wm has punched 1047 cci primers with out an issue till these 2 cases has never had a hiccup
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Don't be a wimp, pull the brake and shoot it like a man to get your velocities. :chuckle:
I've never run my 338 CT pistol over a chronograph for the same reason. I got my muzzle velocity by zeroing at 100 with a know bullet then measuring drops out to 600 yards. It's a pain, but it's been close enough to get me on target to 1800 yards within 2 shots.
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I’ll probably shoot it with out the brake for speeds. Then verify at range. I know the brake can affect speed but how much idk. Figure it’s better than paying $150 for the adapter. That’s another box of bullets.
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I’ll see if I can get some kind of adapter made for the Magneto. The member formerly known as Jay_sharkbait owes me some work so I’ll get him to design and 3D print something to try out.
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I’ll see if I can get some kind of adapter made for the Magneto. The member formerly known as Jay_sharkbait owes me some work so I’ll get him to design and 3D print something to try out.
that would be awesome.
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Well I shot it with out the brake. Not bad at all really. I’m at 2945 without the brake. Screwed on the brake, held 14.5 moa high and nailed the 735 yard plate. I’m thinking I’m pretty close with speed but got plenty of room for more powder. Hopefully I’ll get more time this next week to play with it.
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37 is shooting great. May start playing with the flat lines this week if I get time
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Got around to testing the flatlines today. I’m at just over 1/2” at 100 and 3029 FPS with out the brake. Still playing with seating depth.
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Got the smk’s dialed in well today. Haven’t checked speed yet. As usual the poa is a bullet hole cause I never can seem to find my sharpies when I need them. 3shot group
120gr h1000
350gr smk
Fed 215m
Not bad for a hand chambered barrel and a factory action
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got some speeds today. Happy with this. 350gr smk
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Not too shabby. You're making me anxious to get my 26nosler together
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Not too shabby. You're making me anxious to get my 26nosler together
looking forward to your results
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Not too shabby. You're making me anxious to get my 26nosler together
looking forward to your results
I'd be happy with 1/2moa honestly
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Got the smk’s dialed in well today. Haven’t checked speed yet. As usual the poa is a bullet hole cause I never can seem to find my sharpies when I need them. 3shot group
120gr h1000
350gr smk
Fed 215m
Not bad for a hand chambered barrel and a factory action
:yike: :yike: :yike: :yike: :yike:
Holy crap.
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Got the smk’s dialed in well today. Haven’t checked speed yet. As usual the poa is a bullet hole cause I never can seem to find my sharpies when I need them. 3shot group
120gr h1000
350gr smk
Fed 215m
Not bad for a hand chambered barrel and a factory action
:yike: :yike: :yike: :yike: :yike:
Holy crap.
you can shoot it when you come this way
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Got the smk’s dialed in well today. Haven’t checked speed yet. As usual the poa is a bullet hole cause I never can seem to find my sharpies when I need them. 3shot group
120gr h1000
350gr smk
Fed 215m
Not bad for a hand chambered barrel and a factory action
:yike: :yike: :yike: :yike: :yike:
Holy crap.
:yeah: Looks like it’s coming along great!
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Got the smk’s dialed in well today. Haven’t checked speed yet. As usual the poa is a bullet hole cause I never can seem to find my sharpies when I need them. 3shot group
120gr h1000
350gr smk
Fed 215m
Not bad for a hand chambered barrel and a factory action
:yike: :yike: :yike: :yike: :yike:
Holy crap.
you can shoot it when you come this way
Sweet!
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It is, very happy with this build. I’ve considered getting some rcc brass for this thing. Would probably gain another 50-100 fps. It’s already barking on the heals of the Chet tac with less powder.
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Can’t go to my long spots yet so I did a little at home today. Some gusty winds but I think I did ok.
Was interesting watching the mirage today. Like watching on of those wind machine tube people.
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5” group at 760 with a 350 grain ! Yea I’d be happy.
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735 yards but yes I’m happy with that
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Got an XLR evolution ordered for this. Wanted an element but no inlet for la so I went with another evolution. Should be here in 4-8 weeks
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Why ? Curious have never shot a chassis yet but thinking about one.
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Got an XLR evolution ordered for this. Wanted an element but no inlet for la so I went with another evolution. Should be here in 4-8 weeks
That will be sweet! Except for the wait.
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It’s all about the fit. Plus I need a rail in front of my scope for a macro Charlie Tarac from tacomhq. I like me butt pad canted 10deg to the left and raised up till the top is even with top of action. Same chassis as my 243.
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Got it all mounted up. Maybe I’ll get a break in the rain tomorrow
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Looks good :tup:
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Looks good :tup:
thanks. Fits so well it’s like a glove
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Dang, that looks sweet!
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Man making me even more excited to get mine together. Looks amazing
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It’s shooting great. Robbed my 243 of the folder and diy bag rider.
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All set up and ready for the weekend. Hopefully I’ll get out to one of my spots and try my hand at 2480 Sunday.
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This morning didn’t go well. First I could not get my GoPro to work with my phone. By the time I did the battery was low and I left the extras on the charger at home. By this time the sun had risen and the rocks were light up good. Thought I got a range at 2480 but latter checked google earth and it said 2566. So I setup and the go pro was getting washed out. Had a heck of a time getting white balance right. Finally get set up and shoot. No spot, shoot one more and no eject. Had a bad peace of brass from load work that ended up getting a small chunk of rim bit off by my ejector and thought I had tossed it but it ended up loaded, when I slipped it in the rifle some how that bad spot lined up with my ejector claw. So peace of brass is stuck in my chamber and no cleaning rod to push it out. I fiddled with it for a min before throwing in the towel and heading home. Maybe next week
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That's how most of shooting trips go. :chuckle:
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That's how most of shooting trips go. :chuckle:
making a list for next trip. This spot I can park right at my shooting position
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I had a slightly wrong size shell holder in my priming tool I was tring to get by with and it scarfed case rims like that.
Had sessions like that - all ready then fog, or batteries dead, or lands grew overnight since last checked, or someone cutting wood where I was gonna setup, or wind is crazy, rain starts , etc. heh. Better luck next time out.
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I had a slightly wrong size shell holder in my priming tool I was tring to get by with and it scarfed case rims like that.
Had sessions like that - all ready then fog, or batteries dead, or lands grew overnight since last checked, or someone cutting wood where I was gonna setup, or wind is crazy, rain starts , etc. heh. Better luck next time out.
thanks mw yup bad days happen. Can’t complain too much, I was in the mountains after all. Think my biggest problem was being in a rush to leave. Should have just loaded up the night before
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Finally got a chance to get back up to my 2500 yard spot. 3rd round impact! Very happy with results.
2566
8 mph wind coming up the mountain had me dial 4 moa less elevation and left to right wind above los had me holding 3 moa left.
Target is red dot in pic
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