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Title: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Scruffy on December 14, 2021, 09:03:07 PM
I seen this on FB tonight and didn't see anyone talking about it here so wanted to share.

At tonight's WDFW public meeting the WDFW Director stated that there is a petition to establish a spring 2022 bear season to be voted on during the Jan 21 2022 commission meeting and that it is imperative to let the commissioners know your position or they may not take up the petition.

Here is a link to contact the commission: https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/contact Hope this helps.

i

Washington Department of FISH and WILDLIFE
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: cem3434 on December 14, 2021, 09:58:50 PM
Comment sent, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: huntnnw on December 14, 2021, 10:05:44 PM
every member on here should be commenting on this even if you dont hunt bears
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 14, 2021, 10:10:56 PM
 :yeah: YES take a few minutes to stand up for our rights to hunt. Our voices are making an impact.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: elkrack on December 14, 2021, 10:13:59 PM
Message sent!

Mods can you guys send out pms site wide cause not everyone reads the bear thread?
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: DryFlyGuy on December 14, 2021, 10:20:17 PM
Message sent. I saw in today's Spokesman review that one of the anti hunting commissioners has stepped down. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/dec/13/washington-wildlife-commissioner-resigns-citing-po/
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: bullfever on December 14, 2021, 10:34:27 PM
Sent. Thanks for spreading the word.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: huntnnw on December 14, 2021, 10:35:01 PM
this should be posted as the first thread on every topic on this page so its seen and commented on
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: KFhunter on December 14, 2021, 10:36:42 PM
Message sent!

Mods can you guys send out pms site wide cause not everyone reads the bear thread?

I do not have that ability  :sry:
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: elkrack on December 14, 2021, 10:38:40 PM
Message sent!

Mods can you guys send out pms site wide cause not everyone reads the bear thread?

I do not have that ability  :sry:

Better start sending individuals  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Mulie87 on December 14, 2021, 10:41:06 PM
Done. Thanks for bringing this to the forumís attention.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: hunter399 on December 15, 2021, 01:16:27 AM
Message sent. I saw in today's Spokesman review that one of the anti hunting commissioners has stepped down. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/dec/13/washington-wildlife-commissioner-resigns-citing-po/
Good good.
Taken out the 🗑
That kettle range conservation
"He was a champion"
He was a joke ,a laughing stock,resigns because of political reasons,well don't let your political emotion get in the way of science.
Can't take the heat ,get out the kitchen ,is all this is.

YOU ARE THR WEAKEST LINK,BYE BYE NOW.
You'll be missed by no one .
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: 92xj on December 15, 2021, 05:11:02 AM
Does someone know how to put this link and words into an instagram post so we can @ folks like Phelps, *censored*, Dan Staton, etc.? 
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: JeepWrangler on December 15, 2021, 06:13:18 AM
Good News
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: trophyhunt on December 15, 2021, 06:32:38 AM
Done
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2021, 06:35:58 AM
Here is the letter I sent:

I understand there is a petition to establish a spring 2022 bear season to be voted on during the Jan 21 2022 commission meeting.  I strongly request that this is taken up and re-assessed.  It appears that the cancelation of this season was made in haste, and based on feelings rather than data.

As an active Hunters Education Instructor  and Master Hunter I have been giving back to the WDFW and hunting community for many years and this is the first time I have taken the time to reach out in this manner.  I am hopeful that this wrong can be righted and with that decision a some restoration of faith in Fish and Wildlife leadership by the hunting community.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: RugerRay on December 15, 2021, 06:40:38 AM
Comment sent. Thank you for posting.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Tpetie3509 on December 15, 2021, 06:45:40 AM
Done
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: johnbmyersii on December 15, 2021, 06:48:56 AM
done, thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on December 15, 2021, 06:54:36 AM
Done!
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: nwwanderer on December 15, 2021, 07:09:05 AM
Rob, keep sending it, over and over again, cc elected types in your area, show up at WC meetings and say it again, thanks
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Ghost Hunter on December 15, 2021, 07:34:57 AM
Done
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: ShedHead20 on December 15, 2021, 07:43:15 AM
Comments sent to the Commission. Here is what I said.

"I understand there is a petition to establish a 2022 Spring Bear Special Permit Season and to be voted on during the Jan 21, 2022, commission meeting.  I strongly request that this is re-assessed and voted in favor of a 2022 Special Permit Spring Bear Season. I have been a licensed hunter for 20 years in Washington and given many dollars in the form of tags, licenses, special permits, raffles, and discover passes. It would be a disservice to ALL of our stateís great sportsmen and sportswomen to take away yet another hunting and fishing opportunity. Your own commission even states that this decision was not made of science or by biologist recommendations. WDFW is agreeing and siding with people who are NOT sportsmen and sportswomen and who, for the majority, have NOT contributed to WDFW funds in anyway. Some of which are not even from the State of Washington.
Please unsuspend and vote in favor of the 2022 Spring Bear Special Permit."


Everyone should take 5 mins to do this. You can even copy and paste mine.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: lewy on December 15, 2021, 07:44:19 AM
Sent! Encourage all your friends/family to help us flood them with replies
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Dhoey07 on December 15, 2021, 07:49:44 AM
Done  :tup:
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: BreezyBear on December 15, 2021, 07:59:00 AM
Also submitted, thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: JBar on December 15, 2021, 08:00:43 AM
 :tup: :tup:Submitted
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: wazzu99 on December 15, 2021, 08:01:31 AM
done
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Weatherby92 on December 15, 2021, 08:07:16 AM
Done. Thanks to the forum for the information sharing.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Special T on December 15, 2021, 08:24:31 AM

I seen this on FB tonight and didn't see anyone talking about it here so wanted to share.

At tonight's WDFW public meeting the WDFW Director stated that there is a petition to establish a spring 2022 bear season to be voted on during the Jan 21 2022 commission meeting and that it is imperative to let the commissioners know your position or they may not take up the petition.

Here is a link to contact the commission: https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/contact Hope this helps.

i

Washington Department of FISH and WILDLIFE


Anyone  know what day this was stated or which topic they were speaking about?

https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/meetings/2021

The last commission meeting was the Dec 2-4 so it would have to be a different one.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: RB on December 15, 2021, 08:27:02 AM
Done!
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Stein on December 15, 2021, 08:29:51 AM
I'm slow, is there an actual petition to sign or just comment through the link in the 1st post?

Should we also be contacting our friend Larry to suggest he reconsider his vote?
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: saylean on December 15, 2021, 08:33:22 AM
https://www.change.org/p/jay-inslee-bring-back-spring-bear-hunting-for-washington-state-2022-season?redirect=false

This is the only petition I know of currently. Like special t said, Iíd like to see the meeting where this was stated. Regardless we should all be contacting the commission about this showing our disgust with the vote and desire for a spring bear season.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: RB on December 15, 2021, 08:37:37 AM
I'm slow, is there an actual petition to sign or just comment through the link in the 1st post?

Should we also be contacting our friend Larry to suggest he reconsider his vote?

I followed the link in the first post that takes you to the comment page for the commissioners, then pasted the comment from word that I had typed up. It has you fill in name, address, ETC. then a place for comment, and to add a file if need be. In a nut shell asked them to add spring bear to the agenda in January and vote with the science not the emotion.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: harveymarv on December 15, 2021, 08:49:53 AM
dun
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Scruffy on December 15, 2021, 08:50:44 AM

I seen this on FB tonight and didn't see anyone talking about it here so wanted to share.

At tonight's WDFW public meeting the WDFW Director stated that there is a petition to establish a spring 2022 bear season to be voted on during the Jan 21 2022 commission meeting and that it is imperative to let the commissioners know your position or they may not take up the petition.

Here is a link to contact the commission: https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/contact Hope this helps.

i

Washington Department of FISH and WILDLIFE


Anyone  know what day this was stated or which topic they were speaking about?

https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/meetings/2021

The last commission meeting was the Dec 2-4 so it would have to be a different one.

I seen it posted yesterday 12/14 and the post was an hour old.  I agree we don't know what meeting the OP was referring to.  Maybe I was being too hopeful but it does talk about a vote on Jan 21, 22.  Can someone find out to verify there is a vote on Jan 21st?   Either way we are making some noise to the commission.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: The Fin on December 15, 2021, 08:52:11 AM
I just put in my two cents.  Lorna Smith has to go!   :bash:
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: andersonjk4 on December 15, 2021, 08:56:38 AM
I'm slow, is there an actual petition to sign or just comment through the link in the 1st post?

Should we also be contacting our friend Larry to suggest he reconsider his vote?

I believe it is a formal petition, not the change.org petition.  I am not sure who, or how many have been submitted, but this is the form and the RCW

https://ofm.wa.gov/sites/default/files/public/legacy/reports/petition.pdf (https://ofm.wa.gov/sites/default/files/public/legacy/reports/petition.pdf)

https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=34.05.330 (https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=34.05.330)

Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: X-Force on December 15, 2021, 09:08:12 AM
Fill out the formÖ

Took 10 min.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Bullkllr on December 15, 2021, 09:38:25 AM
New comments sent.

We need to keep this going.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Special T on December 15, 2021, 09:41:31 AM
I hate to be a Buzz kill but the directors statement seems to refute this. go to the 14 min 30 second mark


Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: saylean on December 15, 2021, 09:49:16 AM
Must have been this meeting
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: andersonjk4 on December 15, 2021, 09:58:53 AM
I hate to be a Buzz kill but the directors statement seems to refute this. go to the 14 min 30 second mark



This video was from the 12/7 South Central open house.  The more recent open house on 12/14 provided more information.

Here is a link to a clip I pulled from the most recent open house meeting.  Sounds like the petition information may be more recent than the 12/7 meeting.

Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Special T on December 15, 2021, 10:10:16 AM
I hate to be a Buzz kill but the directors statement seems to refute this. go to the 14 min 30 second mark



This video was from the 12/7 South Central open house.  The more recent open house on 12/14 provided more information.

Here is a link to a clip I pulled from the most recent open house meeting.  Sounds like the petition information may be more recent than the 12/7 meeting.


Great find, its not yet posted on the WDFW youtube page
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 15, 2021, 10:21:45 AM
Its been 10 minutes since this was bumped so here's a TTT! Everyone should be filling this out. Hell I just had my wife submit a a comment.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: LongBomb on December 15, 2021, 10:29:45 AM
 :tup: submitted
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Rainier10 on December 15, 2021, 11:17:18 AM
Done.   :tup:



I am writing to let you know I am strongly in favor of a spring bear season as vital management tool for our state wildlife. I would suggest that you look at expanding the spring bear season to other units. Since the ban on baiting bears went into effect it has become increasingly difficult to field judge bears and make sure you are taking out mature males. You need to have time to do that and what is happening now is bears are being taken by opportunity only, not by targeting mature males or females without cubs. A broader spring bear season would give hunters more time to view more bears and make sound decisions on whether to take a bear or not. The bear population must be kept in check to allow our ungulate population to be at its target levels as well.

I hope that you will look at reinstating the spring bear season and will also look to expand the GMU's that are open for spring bear hunting in the name of sound wildlife management.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 15, 2021, 11:27:42 AM
My mom is so cool! She just submitted her comments, emailed our legislators as well as the governors office to urge all parties to manage based on science and follow the wdfw bio's recommendation to have a 2022 spring season. AS A NON HUNTER!
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: buckfvr on December 15, 2021, 11:28:58 AM
What really chaps my behind is that a commissioner used her agenda driven OPINION to override the scientific evidence provided by WDFW bios.

That should not have been allowed.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Viking360 on December 15, 2021, 11:42:44 AM
Done, sent.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Cougeyes on December 15, 2021, 11:52:57 AM
I didn't see anyone mention this.  My understanding is on 21 January, the commission has to either accept the formal petition that is challenging the rule making decision on spring bear (likely reinstating the season for 2022), or deny the petition (not having a 2022 season). With Koontz gone there are 7 commissioners, 3 of which voted against spring bear and 4 that voted to have the hunt. If this petition is voted on, then I would surely hope that the original 4 that voted in favor of having the spring bear hunt would all vote in favor again.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Rainier10 on December 15, 2021, 11:59:03 AM
This is no time to assume or hope for anything.

We need to send a loud clear message that will let the entire commission know this is a hot topic and they should all vote in favor of it.  I assure you the opposite side is going to be expressing there desire to keep the season cancelled and will be in full force knowing they are down a vote.  They are going to try very hard to swing more votes in their favor.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: andersonjk4 on December 15, 2021, 12:00:15 PM
I didn't see anyone mention this.  My understanding is on 21 January, the commission has to either accept the formal petition that is challenging the rule making decision on spring bear (likely reinstating the season for 2022), or deny the petition (not having a 2022 season). With Koontz gone there are 7 commissioners, 3 of which voted against spring bear and 4 that voted to have the hunt. If this petition is voted on, then I would surely hope that the original 4 that voted in favor of having the spring bear hunt would all vote in favor again.

From what I gathered from what Director Susewind said in the video clip above is that the original proposal for the 2022 season is done and over with. The petition is to propose a new rule for a 2022 season.

I am guessing now, but I think that if the commission accepts the petition that the WDFW would then come back with a proposal for a 2022 season (likely the same proposal they originally presented). But not knowing what the petition says this is pure speculation.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Tbar on December 15, 2021, 12:02:54 PM
I didn't see anyone mention this.  My understanding is on 21 January, the commission has to either accept the formal petition that is challenging the rule making decision on spring bear (likely reinstating the season for 2022), or deny the petition (not having a 2022 season). With Koontz gone there are 7 commissioners, 3 of which voted against spring bear and 4 that voted to have the hunt. If this petition is voted on, then I would surely hope that the original 4 that voted in favor of having the spring bear hunt would all vote in favor again.
What are the rules when a topic is brought back? Does it need a new cr101? Cr102? Also what are the timelines for a response vs an action?
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: trophyhunt on December 15, 2021, 12:06:29 PM
My mom is so cool! She just submitted her comments, emailed our legislators as well as the governors office to urge all parties to manage based on science and follow the wdfw bio's recommendation to have a 2022 spring season. AS A NON HUNTER!
God bless her!!!  That's very cool.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Russ McDonald on December 15, 2021, 12:48:28 PM
Imagine that a turkey organization is going to get involved with bear hunting.  I contacted the NWTF and we are sending a letter to the commission.  I am also asking that it also gets sent to the governor.  Even if people don't hunt bear we should all be involved.  This is just a prelude to what could be coming. 
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 15, 2021, 12:59:07 PM
Imagine that a turkey organization is going to get involved with bear hunting.  I contacted the NWTF and we are sending a letter to the commission.  I am also asking that it also gets sent to the governor.  Even if people don't hunt bear we should all be involved.  This is just a prelude to what could be coming.
good to hear! Their attacks are incremental and what's starts with bears will end with small game and birds. All these organizations should be speaking up.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Goose74 on December 15, 2021, 01:06:21 PM
Done!
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: mcrawfordaf on December 15, 2021, 01:10:07 PM
Busy day for Nikki today  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Tbar on December 15, 2021, 01:13:47 PM
Imagine that a turkey organization is going to get involved with bear hunting.  I contacted the NWTF and we are sending a letter to the commission.  I am also asking that it also gets sent to the governor.  Even if people don't hunt bear we should all be involved.  This is just a prelude to what could be coming.
Thanks Russ. I think it's worth noting that the deviation started with forest grouse. Blatant disregard and arbitrary decision. There was some great conversation on here about that decision but little to no action at the commission. The GMAC provided input to the commission but it seemed to fall on deaf ears.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: lewy on December 15, 2021, 01:18:55 PM
Great job everyone, keep it up. Send it to everyone you know hunters or not, have them write in to support us as conservationist. Lets keep flooding them!
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Wunderlich33 on December 15, 2021, 01:26:39 PM
Done!
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: .257mag on December 15, 2021, 01:55:35 PM
Comments sent. 
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: bustedoldman on December 15, 2021, 02:00:24 PM
Done....Plus the entire family!
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: wadu1 on December 15, 2021, 02:55:22 PM
Done and comments sent.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: saylean on December 15, 2021, 03:49:13 PM
Donít forget to post it on your social media as well. You can add click links directly to your stories by highlighting and copying the web address, click on the square icon with the smiley face on the upper right on Instagram story menu and click on the ďlinkĒ icon with the paper clip graphic. Then paste the web address and move the icon to where you want it on your story.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: actionshooter on December 15, 2021, 06:15:50 PM
Commented and shared on FB... It's time we take control of our future in hunting.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: lewy on December 15, 2021, 06:25:42 PM
Yep! The antiís are hell bent so we need to be as well!!!
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Rbob on December 15, 2021, 06:47:01 PM
Submitted.

Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: harveymarv on December 15, 2021, 07:16:07 PM
Below is the response I received today, to the petition I submitted (i'll try to attach). I believe other individuals and organizations have, or are in the process of, submitting similar petitions. Hopefully all of these drops in the bucket will flood ol Lorna out and get us our bear season back, and send a message. I realize my letter only makes a couple of the many points that can be made, and I only mention one law when many have been broken, but I wanted to keep this petition simple and to the point (and I'm no lawyer). I'll be listening to the meeting Jan 21. I am not surprised it is not open to public comment. Let's keep the pressure on!"

"Good afternoon Mr. Cannon,
 
On December 10, 2021, the Department of Fish and Wildlife received a petition from you requesting repeal of the ďCommission vote on WAC 220-415-080 resulting in removal of 2022 Spring Bear Hunting Season.
 
The Commission will formally consider your petition as one of our agenda items during a web conference scheduled Friday, January 21, 2021, at 1:00 p.m. You can find the link, when available, to listen to the meeting on the Commissionís website here.
No public input will be accepted during the meeting. It will be recorded, and the audio/video will be available on the Commission website the following week. You will be sent a letter with information about the outcome immediately following the Commissionís decision.
Attached is your petition and initial letter for consideration. If you have additional questions please let me know.
Thank you for bringing your concerns forward and proposing solutions through the rule making process.
Happy Holidays!
 
Nikki Kloepfer
Fish and Wildlife Commission"

 
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: jackelope on December 15, 2021, 08:05:16 PM
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Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: hunter399 on December 15, 2021, 08:41:35 PM
Done!!!!!!!!!
Like midday today ,I'll go check and make sure I got confirmation in a min.

Mine was short and sweet.
Reinstate spring bear or revote ,harvest is minimal ,blah,ect,blah.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Lucky1 on December 15, 2021, 09:07:14 PM
I contacted them to encourage them to have a spring bear season.
I donít hunt spring bear.
  :tup:
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: hunter399 on December 15, 2021, 09:13:09 PM
I didn't get confirmation.
I'll go on there later tonite or mourning ,go to WDFW website and fill out contact form ,and cut and paste my email from today.

I sent it to
Commission@dfw.gov
Email I used before ,but maybe with increased email traffic lately ,I'll have to go with contact form,so that I get that canned email confirmation.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Scruffy on December 15, 2021, 09:15:14 PM
Just throwing this out there.  Is anyone involved with the Mule Deer Foundation or Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation enough to get these groups to support us?  There may be other conservation groups that I am not aware of.  But if they will support us by writing the WDFW it may help.  We doing it as individual is good but if we had organizations backing us it would be even better.  I belong to the RMEF but wouldn't know who to contact or probably could explain it well enough to get them to get involved.  The more voice the better.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: snake on December 15, 2021, 09:16:03 PM
I contacted them to encourage them to have a spring bear season.
I donít hunt spring bear.
  :tup:
No ones perfect! :)
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: hunter399 on December 15, 2021, 09:21:29 PM
Just throwing this out there.  Is anyone involved with the Mule Deer Foundation or Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation enough to get these groups to support us?  There may be other conservation groups that I am not aware of.  But if they will support us by writing the WDFW it may help.  We doing it as individual is good but if we had organizations backing us it would be even better.  I belong to the RMEF but wouldn't know who to contact or probably could explain it well enough to get them to get involved.  The more voice the better.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea ,but I've went down that path before on agenda I was trying push at the commission.
I will say Goodluck with it ,send out more emails.
But you might be surprised how little they care about your fight. But never hurts to try .

That kettle range conservation that called the recent Commissioner that steped down a "champion" would be a perfect example of about two faced as it gets.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: hunter399 on December 15, 2021, 10:21:12 PM
There done and done!!!

Short and sweet.

Please put spring bear hunt at the top of the agenda.
Please reinstate or revote for spring season.
Spring Bear harvest is very minimal.

That's it ,that's all I put. I'm not writing an essay on it.
But will throw my support in .
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Special T on December 15, 2021, 11:32:48 PM
Just throwing this out there.  Is anyone involved with the Mule Deer Foundation or Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation enough to get these groups to support us?  There may be other conservation groups that I am not aware of.  But if they will support us by writing the WDFW it may help.  We doing it as individual is good but if we had organizations backing us it would be even better.  I belong to the RMEF but wouldn't know who to contact or probably could explain it well enough to get them to get involved.  The more voice the better.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea ,but I've went down that path before on agenda I was trying push at the commission.
I will say Goodluck with it ,send out more emails.
But you might be surprised how little they care about your fight. But never hurts to try .

That kettle range conservation that called the recent Commissioner that steped down a "champion" would be a perfect example of about two faced as it gets.

Most Criter organizations are habitat focused. They have Zero desire to get into advocacy if the answer isnt habitat. Some may be better than others at how much $ stays in state and what they accomplish but they will avoid advocacy on predators with as much tact and Texas 2 step as possible.

IMO we need Advocates that support sportsmen rights and Predator control.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: hunter399 on December 16, 2021, 06:02:06 AM
Just throwing this out there.  Is anyone involved with the Mule Deer Foundation or Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation enough to get these groups to support us?  There may be other conservation groups that I am not aware of.  But if they will support us by writing the WDFW it may help.  We doing it as individual is good but if we had organizations backing us it would be even better.  I belong to the RMEF but wouldn't know who to contact or probably could explain it well enough to get them to get involved.  The more voice the better.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea ,but I've went down that path before on agenda I was trying push at the commission.
I will say Goodluck with it ,send out more emails.
But you might be surprised how little they care about your fight. But never hurts to try .

That kettle range conservation that called the recent Commissioner that steped down a "champion" would be a perfect example of about two faced as it gets.

Most Criter organizations are habitat focused. They have Zero desire to get into advocacy if the answer isnt habitat. Some may be better than others at how much $ stays in state and what they accomplish but they will avoid advocacy on predators with as much tact and Texas 2 step as possible.

IMO we need Advocates that support sportsmen rights and Predator control.
I Agree we need advocates that sportsman opportunity.
Bottom line,That represents. I'm not giving money to political crap.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: jackelope on December 16, 2021, 07:36:11 AM
Just throwing this out there.  Is anyone involved with the Mule Deer Foundation or Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation enough to get these groups to support us?  There may be other conservation groups that I am not aware of.  But if they will support us by writing the WDFW it may help.  We doing it as individual is good but if we had organizations backing us it would be even better.  I belong to the RMEF but wouldn't know who to contact or probably could explain it well enough to get them to get involved.  The more voice the better.

I have some contacts with the local MDF. I'm assuming they're still involved, but it's been a few years. I'll report back with what they have to say.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Special T on December 16, 2021, 09:40:02 AM
Just throwing this out there.  Is anyone involved with the Mule Deer Foundation or Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation enough to get these groups to support us?  There may be other conservation groups that I am not aware of.  But if they will support us by writing the WDFW it may help.  We doing it as individual is good but if we had organizations backing us it would be even better.  I belong to the RMEF but wouldn't know who to contact or probably could explain it well enough to get them to get involved.  The more voice the better.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea ,but I've went down that path before on agenda I was trying push at the commission.
I will say Goodluck with it ,send out more emails.
But you might be surprised how little they care about your fight. But never hurts to try .

That kettle range conservation that called the recent Commissioner that steped down a "champion" would be a perfect example of about two faced as it gets.

Most Criter organizations are habitat focused. They have Zero desire to get into advocacy if the answer isnt habitat. Some may be better than others at how much $ stays in state and what they accomplish but they will avoid advocacy on predators with as much tact and Texas 2 step as possible.

IMO we need Advocates that support sportsmen rights and Predator control.
I Agree we need advocates that sportsman opportunity.
Bottom line,That represents. I'm not giving money to political crap.

Saying i dont like politics  because of xyz reason or group is ceeding the ground to your opponet. I get it, its a messy and you can get burned. As sportsmennwe have to educate ourselves and or find groups you can trust.  Groups like you stated  exert political will even tho they come across as softer and more reasonable. Sportsmen has been on the defensive side for too long. It good to see people fired up.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: TRD1911 on December 16, 2021, 09:54:25 AM
Thanks for posting the link. I've never had the opportunity to hunt spring bear but understand the impact that this can have on our deer and elk population. This can affect these species negatively for years to come. I personally believe that this is an effort to intentionally lower ungulate populations and make hunter-based management strategies obsolete. The argument will start with "deer and elk numbers are historically low so we need to remove or reduce tags in units XYZ...a couple years later..."we need to remove OTC tags to limit the number of game taken"...so on and so forth....
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: raydog on December 16, 2021, 10:03:55 AM
Below is the response I received today, to the petition I submitted (i'll try to attach). I believe other individuals and organizations have, or are in the process of, submitting similar petitions. Hopefully all of these drops in the bucket will flood ol Lorna out and get us our bear season back, and send a message. I realize my letter only makes a couple of the many points that can be made, and I only mention one law when many have been broken, but I wanted to keep this petition simple and to the point (and I'm no lawyer). I'll be listening to the meeting Jan 21. I am not surprised it is not open to public comment. Let's keep the pressure on!"

"Good afternoon Mr. Cannon,
 
On December 10, 2021, the Department of Fish and Wildlife received a petition from you requesting repeal of the ďCommission vote on WAC 220-415-080 resulting in removal of 2022 Spring Bear Hunting Season.
 
The Commission will formally consider your petition as one of our agenda items during a web conference scheduled Friday, January 21, 2021, at 1:00 p.m. You can find the link, when available, to listen to the meeting on the Commissionís website here.
No public input will be accepted during the meeting. It will be recorded, and the audio/video will be available on the Commission website the following week. You will be sent a letter with information about the outcome immediately following the Commissionís decision.
Attached is your petition and initial letter for consideration. If you have additional questions please let me know.
Thank you for bringing your concerns forward and proposing solutions through the rule making process.
Happy Holidays!
 
Nikki Kloepfer
Fish and Wildlife Commission"

Did you mail in the form for the official petition? Or were you able to do it online. Iíd like to figure out how to fill out this petition.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: pickardjw on December 16, 2021, 10:20:41 AM
Done. My letter for anyone that needs a template:

I am writing in favor of the petition to reinstate the 2022 Spring Bear season to be discussed and voted on during the January 21, 2022 meeting. Per RCW 77.04.055, "The commission shall maximize fishing, hunting, and outdoor recreational opportunities compatible with healthy and diverse fish and wildlife populations." All available data from the WDFW indicates that the Spring Bear hunt complies with the latter part of this statute and is not detrimental to overall bear populations. Furthermore, it is a limited tag, draw only hunt in specific areas where bear numbers well above objective and/or a known detriment other parts of the ecosystem. Management of predators is critical to the recovery of our ungulate species.

I would ask that Commission members abstain from letting their personal convictions about predator hunting affect their vote, and that they vote in accordance with the recommendations of the WDFW and GMAC.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Rainier10 on December 16, 2021, 10:24:02 AM
Done. My letter for anyone that needs a template:

I am writing in favor of the petition to reinstate the 2022 Spring Bear season to be discussed and voted on during the January 21, 2022 meeting. Per RCW 77.04.055, "The commission shall maximize fishing, hunting, and outdoor recreational opportunities compatible with healthy and diverse fish and wildlife populations." All available data from the WDFW indicates that the Spring Bear hunt complies with the latter part of this statute and is not detrimental to overall bear populations. Furthermore, it is a limited tag, draw only hunt in specific areas where bear numbers well above objective and/or a known detriment other parts of the ecosystem. Management of predators is critical to the recovery of our ungulate species.

I would ask that Commission members abstain from letting their personal convictions about predator hunting affect their vote, and that they vote in accordance with the recommendations of the WDFW and GMAC.

Very well written.  thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: jowings22 on December 16, 2021, 10:24:08 AM
Message sent. Personal feelings and opinion are irrelevant to the task at hand when the WDFW biology supports the hunt. This should have never been cancelled.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: luvmystang67 on December 16, 2021, 11:13:30 AM
Commented, urged them to follow the science.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: harveymarv on December 16, 2021, 12:01:11 PM
Below is the response I received today, to the petition I submitted (i'll try to attach). I believe other individuals and organizations have, or are in the process of, submitting similar petitions. Hopefully all of these drops in the bucket will flood ol Lorna out and get us our bear season back, and send a message. I realize my letter only makes a couple of the many points that can be made, and I only mention one law when many have been broken, but I wanted to keep this petition simple and to the point (and I'm no lawyer). I'll be listening to the meeting Jan 21. I am not surprised it is not open to public comment. Let's keep the pressure on!"

"Good afternoon Mr. Cannon,
 
On December 10, 2021, the Department of Fish and Wildlife received a petition from you requesting repeal of the ďCommission vote on WAC 220-415-080 resulting in removal of 2022 Spring Bear Hunting Season.
 
The Commission will formally consider your petition as one of our agenda items during a web conference scheduled Friday, January 21, 2021, at 1:00 p.m. You can find the link, when available, to listen to the meeting on the Commissionís website here.
No public input will be accepted during the meeting. It will be recorded, and the audio/video will be available on the Commission website the following week. You will be sent a letter with information about the outcome immediately following the Commissionís decision.
Attached is your petition and initial letter for consideration. If you have additional questions please let me know.
Thank you for bringing your concerns forward and proposing solutions through the rule making process.
Happy Holidays!
 
Nikki Kloepfer
Fish and Wildlife Commission"

Did you mail in the form for the official petition? Or were you able to do it online. Iíd like to figure out how to fill out this petition.

i mailed it in. my completed petition is attached to my other post.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Rainier10 on December 16, 2021, 12:01:39 PM
Bumping this one to keep it on the recent topics banner.

Got a reply from Nikki saying comments had been forwarded.

Keep the emails going in and make sure our voice is heard.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Stein on December 16, 2021, 12:12:13 PM
Has anyone asked Nikki when the draw results will be posted yet?
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Tbar on December 16, 2021, 12:14:15 PM
Bumping this one to keep it on the recent topics banner.

Got a reply from Nikki saying comments had been forwarded.

Keep the emails going in and make sure our voice is heard.
:yeah:
Not to cast doubt but there is a high likelihood that the petition does not create an action. Even if this is the case it's imperative to maintain the momentum created so on future issues there is an opportunity to be proactive vs reactive. 
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: KFhunter on December 16, 2021, 09:17:39 PM
Just throwing this out there.  Is anyone involved with the Mule Deer Foundation or Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation enough to get these groups to support us?  There may be other conservation groups that I am not aware of.  But if they will support us by writing the WDFW it may help.  We doing it as individual is good but if we had organizations backing us it would be even better.  I belong to the RMEF but wouldn't know who to contact or probably could explain it well enough to get them to get involved.  The more voice the better.

I have some contacts with the local MDF. I'm assuming they're still involved, but it's been a few years. I'll report back with what they have to say.

We need to light a fire under their asses, remind them the online petition got over 5000 votes
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: dwils233 on December 16, 2021, 11:32:30 PM
To my knowledge there are 4 petitions that have been brought up for formal consideration by the commission. I know of at least 2 now on Jan 21st.

The other one was drafted by Inland Northwest Wildlife Council and co-signed by BHA, Wenatchee Sportsmen's Association, Inland Empire SCI, Hunters Heritage Council, WWC, Meateater and Blood Origins.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: JeepWrangler on December 17, 2021, 07:25:14 AM
Hi dwils233,

Quick question:

In your post you mentioned one of the co-signers as 'WCW'

Who is that?...

My only knowledge of a 'WCW' is Wildlife Committee of Washington in Bothell. (aka Kenmore Gun Range aka wcwshootingsports)

Thank-you

Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: dwils233 on December 17, 2021, 07:48:10 AM
Hi dwils233,

Quick question:

In your post you mentioned one of the co-signers as 'WCW'

Who is that?...

My only knowledge of a 'WCW' is Wildlife Committee of Washington in Bothell. (aka Kenmore Gun Range aka wcwshootingsports)

Thank-you

I got my acronym mixed up. Should be WWC- washingtonian's for Wildlife conservation
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: mdbuck5x5 on December 17, 2021, 07:49:00 AM
https://nwsportsmanmag.com/wdfw-commission-to-respond-to-3-spring-bear-petitions/?mc_cid=db82eacbf3&mc_eid=1693c19070
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: JeepWrangler on December 17, 2021, 10:38:06 AM
Hi dwils233,

Thank you for your response.

WWC (W4WC) is a great organization.

They have done terrific work for hunters over many years.

To my knowledge, WCW, aka Wildlife Committee of Washington, aka Kenmore Range, aka wcwshootingsports, has not had an active Hunting or Conservation Committee for years.

Thank you for all you are doing to help on this issue.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: jackelope on December 17, 2021, 12:01:52 PM
Just throwing this out there.  Is anyone involved with the Mule Deer Foundation or Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation enough to get these groups to support us?  There may be other conservation groups that I am not aware of.  But if they will support us by writing the WDFW it may help.  We doing it as individual is good but if we had organizations backing us it would be even better.  I belong to the RMEF but wouldn't know who to contact or probably could explain it well enough to get them to get involved.  The more voice the better.

I have some contacts with the local MDF. I'm assuming they're still involved, but it's been a few years. I'll report back with what they have to say.

We need to light a fire under their asses, remind them the online petition got over 5000 votes

Uhh. Itís about to break 20k signatures.

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Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: bobbydean on December 17, 2021, 12:18:47 PM
Just throwing this out there.  Is anyone involved with the Mule Deer Foundation or Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation enough to get these groups to support us?  There may be other conservation groups that I am not aware of.  But if they will support us by writing the WDFW it may help.  We doing it as individual is good but if we had organizations backing us it would be even better.  I belong to the RMEF but wouldn't know who to contact or probably could explain it well enough to get them to get involved.  The more voice the better.

I have some contacts with the local MDF. I'm assuming they're still involved, but it's been a few years. I'll report back with what they have to say.

We need to light a fire under their asses, remind them the online petition got over 5000 votes

Uhh. Itís about to break 20k signatures.

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I started that petition. Glad to see it is doing well.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: KFhunter on December 17, 2021, 01:24:49 PM
I said over 5000   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Rainier10 on December 17, 2021, 01:29:13 PM
I said over 5000   :chuckle:
"About 20,000" is way more impressive than "over 5,000". :chuckle:
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: KFhunter on December 17, 2021, 01:58:23 PM
No doubt, its gained a lot of signatures since I signed it.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Rainier10 on December 17, 2021, 02:09:14 PM
I am still concerned that the anti's will know they are down a vote and will rally harder than sportsman.

I hope people don't get confident in the appearance of momentum.

Keep the emails going to the commission.

Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: pickardjw on December 17, 2021, 02:13:34 PM
No doubt, its gained a lot of signatures since I signed it.

That was the tipping point that got me to sign it  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: hunter399 on December 17, 2021, 03:51:43 PM
I am still concerned that the anti's will know they are down a vote and will rally harder than sportsman.

I hope people don't get confident in the appearance of momentum.

Keep the emails going to the commission.
Ya that  :yeah:
I think we are at a tipping point and we need to slam dunk this.
Keeping the emails going strong 💪 is the way.
Even if you have emailed and asked for a revote ,do it again,do it daily.
I know it sounds crazy,but the squeaky wheel will get the grease.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: jackelope on December 18, 2021, 12:03:31 AM
I said over 5000   :chuckle:
You frikkin nailed it, bud.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: JeepWrangler on December 18, 2021, 04:57:35 AM
Yesterday was a good day.

I found the SCI letter / link to send the Commission with the SCI view of the issue.

Also saw the letter posted by W4WC that explained how to send a letter to the Commission in support of the Inland Northwest Council's petition.

It's been good to see the multiple petitions sent in to the Commission and to be able to find how to support those petitions.

Thank-you to everyone.

Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: nwhunter on December 18, 2021, 08:10:52 AM
The troops have really rallied for this spring bear issue thats awesome!!! I would love to see or hear that RMEF got involved at some level to support this fight since it drastically affects the elk.. Every time I open a RMEF envelope with the free return address stamps it irritates me because I'd rather see them spend their time and money fighting against wolves and issues like this one... I will send in my daily email to the commission...
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: bearpaw on December 20, 2021, 04:24:35 AM
I have been busy lion hunting and did not know about this commissioner resigning until finding this message in my email from SCI. They are telling their members to generate messages to the commission!

Quote
All:

This is a screen shot, so the web site is not a direct link. I think it was two days ago that one of the anti spring bear hunt voters on the game commission resigned. That suddenly leaves the four commissioners that voted for the bear season with a 4 to 3 majority. If there is enough push for the season from hunters the game commissioners that wanted the season may reinstate it!

Get the word out to all your friends to contact the game commissioner and ask to have the season reinstated!!!

I am super busy today, but I can send a newsletter this week to all members of this forum asking them to send a message to the commission. I imagine there are a percentage of members who do not know all the details of what has happened and have not taken action, hopefully it will result in more messages of support for spring bear season being sent to the commissioners.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: JeepWrangler on December 20, 2021, 04:58:22 AM
Thank you Bearpaw

Hope lion hunting has been good
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: trophyhunt on December 20, 2021, 06:29:42 AM
I'm a bit confused here, are they going to have another vote on spring bear in January or just talk about it????
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: hunter399 on December 20, 2021, 08:33:43 AM
I'm a bit confused here, are they going to have another vote on spring bear in January or just talk about it????
I don't know if it's on the "agenda" .
But you know the saying.
Ask and you shall receive.
Then this one.
Closed mouths don't get fed.

I don't know about you guys,but when I emailed ,I asked for reinstate the season or revote.
No compromise,go big or go home.
If they don't do it then ohh well at least I tried.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: dwils233 on December 20, 2021, 09:09:12 AM
Right now, they are not revoting on the spring bear on Jan 21, but they are gearing mutiple formal petitions askeding for the reinstatement. Well see what comes of that

Also my understanding is that anyone who voted against it can call for a revote, almost at anytime during during meeting but there's nothing scheduled at this time
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: eskimo on December 24, 2021, 01:14:25 PM
I just sent my request to have a spring bear hunt for 2022.Eskimo
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: tyfghter on January 02, 2022, 08:26:21 PM
I dont think Ive ever sent more messages and signed more petitions in my life, combined!

I just started hunting, hoping to make bear a big staple of my family's diet and I fear this is just the begin of anti's attack on bear hunting. Sadly, from my ow  experiences, it seems like bear hunting in particular is targeted as only trophy hunting. It gives me some sort of pleasure seeing people's faces when I tell them I actually would rather just have the meat.

Also, a big huge THANK YOU to everyone sharing all the info on who to contact and how to support.  If it weren't for y'all I wouldnt know how to fight back.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: actionshooter on January 02, 2022, 09:05:38 PM
I dont think Ive ever sent more messages and signed more petitions in my life, combined!

I just started hunting, hoping to make bear a big staple of my family's diet and I fear this is just the begin of anti's attack on bear hunting. Sadly, from my ow  experiences, it seems like bear hunting in particular is targeted as only trophy hunting. It gives me some sort of pleasure seeing people's faces when I tell them I actually would rather just have the meat.

Also, a big huge THANK YOU to everyone sharing all the info on who to contact and how to support.  If it weren't for y'all I wouldnt know how to fight back.

Thank you for stepping up.... hunters aren't the best at fighting for our rights... probably because we shouldn't have to, but that is a whole other discussion.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: JeepWrangler on January 03, 2022, 04:59:43 AM
Hi tyfighter,

Thank-you for getting in the fight to protect Bear Hunting in Washington State.

Washington State is sort of where it all begin, the early successes of the anti hunting movement against bear hunting, where the anti hunting groups had their first real big win back in 1996. (See Washington State Initiative 655 for more information)

The arguments the anti's are using today are the same arguments they found worked in influencing the 90% of the population that neither is for or against hunting.

The 'we hunt bears for trophy' and 'we do not eat bears' are tried and true. They win with those arguments.

They have been having success with the 'we shoot mothers with cubs' and the latest, 'its unethical to hunt bears in the spring because they are lethargic'

You are right, how is it the approximate 15Million people who purchased hunting licenses last year cannot gather even 20 thousand signatures on a petition to save a spring bear hunting season?

Thank- you for all you are doing for hunting, wildlife conservation and habitat conservation.

Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Wunderlich33 on January 04, 2022, 11:29:16 AM
Its truly great to see all of us coming together on this one!
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: hunter399 on January 04, 2022, 12:17:47 PM
I see a lot of people talking about 15 million hunters in Washington.
Well in 2020 only about 21,000 people that bought a bear tag.
So I would say the petition is not doing that bad.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: DeerThug on January 04, 2022, 12:28:06 PM
I dont know if this belongs here or a thread of its own or if posted elsewhere already.  But here is an example of what we are up against.  Just had this pop up on facebook.

A site / group called Not My WDFW whos aim appears to end hunting.  The site is factually untrue, but in today's world probably somewhat effective.  Their goal is opposite of ours in the Commission appointments as well as the Director

https://www.notmywdfw.org

Not sure what to do or can be done but thought I would share.  Would seem that an opposite well-crafted and balanced social media campaign would be something to consider.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: hunter399 on January 04, 2022, 12:38:44 PM
I dont know if this belongs here or a thread of its own or if posted elsewhere already.  But here is an example of what we are up against.  Just had this pop up on facebook.

A site / group called Not My WDFW whos aim appears to end hunting.  The site is factually untrue, but in today's world probably somewhat effective.  Their goal is opposite of ours in the Commission appointments as well as the Director

https://www.notmywdfw.org

Not sure what to do or can be done but thought I would share.  Would seem that an opposite well-crafted and balanced social media campaign would be something to consider.

Oh NO!!!!!!!!!
The anti-hunters started there own petition.
We are all screwed.
It also says protests coming soon .
Man this is going down hill with no brakes and one flat tire.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: mcrawfordaf on January 04, 2022, 01:13:49 PM
It's infuriating how they constantly refer to us as "trophy hunters".

I hunt meat...
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Stein on January 04, 2022, 01:16:37 PM
I continue to believe that the longer Jay takes to fill the committee the better off we are.  I'm not sure why hunters are encouraging him to act fast.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: hunter399 on January 04, 2022, 03:29:54 PM
I continue to believe that the longer Jay takes to fill the committee the better off we are.  I'm not sure why hunters are encouraging him to act fast.
We are better off ,right now.
That's why the anti people are pushing Jay to fill the seats,pack the Commission .
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Stein on January 04, 2022, 03:31:34 PM
Agreed, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone to see what kind of people he nominates.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: salish on January 10, 2022, 10:45:20 AM
I've been through the last couple of pages of this thread. Without having to go through the entire thread, where do we stand on this issue? Is there in fact a closure, still, of the spring bear season? And we have sent petitions in to WDFW to open a season, and we're still waiting for the commission to change it back to open?
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: hunter399 on January 10, 2022, 10:50:02 AM
I've been through the last couple of pages of this thread. Without having to go through the entire thread, where do we stand on this issue? Is there in fact a closure, still, of the spring bear season? And we have sent petitions in to WDFW to open a season, and we're still waiting for the commission to change it back to open?
For the most part ,yes,yes,and yes. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: dwils233 on January 10, 2022, 01:25:35 PM
I've been through the last couple of pages of this thread. Without having to go through the entire thread, where do we stand on this issue? Is there in fact a closure, still, of the spring bear season? And we have sent petitions in to WDFW to open a season, and we're still waiting for the commission to change it back to open?

Spring bear is still closed
4 formal petitions have been sent to the commission and are slated to be heard on Jan 21 at which time the commission will have to formally respond.
There is a slim chance that procedural rules may allow a "no" voter to call for a revote, external to the petitions
Contact the commission before the 21st and try to schedule public comment for the meeting this Friday since there is no comment allowed on the 21st
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: Wunderlich33 on January 10, 2022, 01:30:54 PM
I've been through the last couple of pages of this thread. Without having to go through the entire thread, where do we stand on this issue? Is there in fact a closure, still, of the spring bear season? And we have sent petitions in to WDFW to open a season, and we're still waiting for the commission to change it back to open?

If you haven't submitted and signed any of the petitions you can find the links within this thread. Please take the time to do so.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: JeepWrangler on January 10, 2022, 02:43:26 PM
As of 01/10/2022 at 2:39pm, we need 14 more signatures to reach 20,000 signatures on the Change (dot) org petition:

"Bring back spring bear hunting for Washington State 2022 season"  petition.

If you have not signed the petition, please do so.

If you know anyone who would be willing to sign the petition please ask them to do so.

Would like to see the petition reach 20,000 signatures before the Open Public Comment period of the Jan 14th Commission Meeting.

You can see the petition at:

https://www.change.org/p/jay-inslee-bring-back-spring-bear-hunting-for-washington-state-2022-season (https://www.change.org/p/jay-inslee-bring-back-spring-bear-hunting-for-washington-state-2022-season)

Thank-you
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: couesbitten on January 10, 2022, 03:39:17 PM
I received an email from RMEF today addressing the special meeting on January 21st to review the decision. Here's a link to the RMEF page, scroll down and click on the "take action" button, which will open up a new window.  Please take a moment to add your information to the preformatted letter and send it to the commissioners to keep the heat on them.

https://www.rmef.org/take-action/#/
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: salish on January 11, 2022, 12:11:46 AM
Guys, thank you for your detailed update to my questions, I appreciate it. I will follow through with the signing of the petition. Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Spring Bear Petition
Post by: JeepWrangler on January 11, 2022, 04:52:21 AM
 :tup:
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