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Offline Pathfinder101

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Re: What is the most Patriotic/American gun, to you???
« Reply #60 on: July 04, 2018, 04:07:21 PM »
Way more 870's sold(about 13million) than 94's if your number is correct. I think I'd choose the 1911 for cartridge development, machining, design longevity, and use across the world it is sort of a symbol of America. Lots of good ideas tho.

But the Rem 870 isn't just a sporting firearm.  Many of those are govt issue for police and military.  According to the NRA, the Winchester Model 94 is the "most popular sporting arm of all time". 
But.. now that you mention it, I own 2 Remington 870s and only 1 Winchester 94... :chuckle:
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Re: What is the most Patriotic/American gun, to you???
« Reply #61 on: July 04, 2018, 04:36:19 PM »

The Winchester Model 94- John Moses Browning’s version of the Winchester 73; the most prolific rifle ever made


Yes.  John Moses Browning was a young gun designer that went to work for Winchester when he was in his 20s (in the 1870s).  He had been tinkering with the Winchester 73 for years and kept improving it over and over (the '85 Winchester, the 86 Winchester, the 87 Winchester).  In 1894 he finally got it just the way he wanted it.  And that's pretty much the way it has stayed since 1894.  The 1894 Winchester lever action rifle has sold over 7 million rifles to date.  More than any other sporting arm in history, making it the "most prolific".

Well... That's one way to look at it I suppose. Yes, he did design a lot of guns for Winchester but none of those are based on the '73 or '76 toggle link actions. The '85 is a single shot and was produced by Browning before he even partnered with Winchester though they began producing it after their partnership. The '86 he'd already had mostly designed before the partnership, upon their initial meeting (over the '85) they also secured the rights to the '86. The '87 shotgun was a design JMB didn't even want to do, the tried to get Winchester to go with a pump design to keep up with what other companies were already brining to market but they wanted to stay with levers. It's more of a rolling block design than anything. You left out the '92 action which was a scaled down '86 for pistol calibers (to replace the '73). The 94 was a different design that all those already listed being of approximately the same size of the '92 but able to handle longer cartridges as it is a very different action internally. Then of course he finally designed the '95 for Winchester to handle rounds like the .30-40 Krag. But other than being lever actions none of those are based on the '73 toggle link action.

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Re: What is the most Patriotic/American gun, to you???
« Reply #62 on: July 05, 2018, 08:04:33 PM »
'Merica isn't about caliber or your favorite manufacturer.  It's all about attitude.
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Re: What is the most Patriotic/American gun, to you???
« Reply #63 on: July 05, 2018, 09:00:42 PM »
1911 for most American, Kentucky rifle for most Patriotic.


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