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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2017, 02:55:40 PM »
I'll play along.   I pull an older (1962) travel trailer, dry weight 4,4xx.  By the time I add water supplies, etc., close to 6k.  I also pull a 4x12' utility that I run no more than 2k, if possible.

My first Suburban (95) needed tires when I bought it.  I put a Finnish tire on it from Nokian.  I think it was called Vulcan.  I loved the Finnish tire, but they stopped making it about 6 years ago.  Anyway, I only know tires tires by standard sizes.  285.75r16E was the size.  I got nearly 80k on the set before I had to replace.  Great wear for a 4x4 that spent most of its time on concrete and asphalt.  Not too aggressive in terms of tread, but great traction in snow and mud, with excellent clean out.  I spent a lot of time in the Umtanum and Manastash with that rig.  I've only hunted modern fire, so often snow, mud, etc. 

I moved those tires from one Suburban to another Suburban (00) when I blew my tranny near Moses Lake on my way to a funeral in CO.  I was pulling my TT at the time.  The new Suburban took to them great.  Smooth ride, no wiggle with the trailer and distributed weight great.  They were quiet until the last 10k in miles and then got pretty loud on concrete, but were still okay on asphalt (loud, but tolerable). 

Since I could not get the Nokian Vulcan again, I switched to Goodyear Duratrac 275.75r16E.  I loved their look, feel and grip, but they were very noisy as the traction of the tire wore down.  Both of tire brands and types held the trailers well and performed great in mountain, off road, mud, sand, dirt, gravel, rain, and snow.  Unfortunately, I sold my Suburban and I still had over 50% tread on the Duratracs, but they wouldn't fit my pickup.

That said, I also have an F-150 4x4, 2000.  I had BF all season 275.75r17C on it.  Squirrely at times.  I bought it with those and they wore well, but I want an E range and more tree.  I just put on 275.70r17E KO2 BF Goodrich on.  I bought them in Bozeman when dropping off the daughter at MSU.  So far, great tires.  I'm curious what @whackmaster ran into, as I want to see if that happens with mine.  Anyway, great weight handling, so far.  No side to side shifting when pulling, not very loud, but noticeable.  I've only got 4K of miles on them, but no noticeable issues.  I am taking the truck in for new torsion bars up front and alignment.  I know it's needed.

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2017, 04:04:24 PM »
Does anyone run cooper discoverer at 3's on their rigs? I have them on the work rig and I like them, but am curious to how many miles people have put on theirs.

Currently have cheaper Schwab at''s on my Toyota that need replaced when I am laid off for the season and am thinking leaning towards the at 3.
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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2017, 05:02:10 PM »
First off I'm a HUGE Nokian Fan! I had a set of Hakkapeleta snow tires for my Bratt with hardend core studs from the factory and was able to get them before the anti stud Nazis  made them illegal.

Wander side inside can happen for 2 reasons. Tire load rating differences... and ruts in the freeway. The I5 section in Marrysville had really bad ruts. Narrow aggressive tires accentuated this.. I have a buddy that works for a tire shop that constantly has people complaining about handling but fail to take into account the actual surface they are driving on.

You went from BFG all terrains to mud tires  so they should be louder...
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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2017, 06:28:09 PM »
TIRE FINDING CHALLENGE:      I need 1 Falken Wildpeak AT2.

SIZE:   285 75 16

It has to be an AT2.   The AT3 is nothing like the AT2.

They aren't being made anymore.

I will readily admit that anyone who can locate one is a better man than me, and I will buy you a cheeseburger!



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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2017, 07:52:24 PM »
TIRE FINDING CHALLENGE:      I need 1 Falken Wildpeak AT2.

Just buy 2 new at3 and call it close with a spare... your on a snipe hunt.
SIZE:   285 75 16

It has to be an AT2.   The AT3 is nothing like the AT2.

They aren't being made anymore.

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2017, 08:27:07 PM »
TIRE FINDING CHALLENGE:      I need 1 Falken Wildpeak AT2.

SIZE:   285 75 16

It has to be an AT2.   The AT3 is nothing like the AT2.

They aren't being made anymore.

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2017, 09:01:22 PM »
Does anyone run cooper discoverer at 3's on their rigs? I have them on the work rig and I like them, but am curious to how many miles people have put on theirs.

Currently have cheaper Schwab at''s on my Toyota that need replaced when I am laid off for the season and am thinking leaning towards the at 3.

I'm on the second set of AT 3s on my 2500 HD Duramax and I love them. I got 53K miles on the last set with a pretty good mix of hauling, freeway and logging road use. They're not the best tire I've used in the snow but they do pretty well. I had a set on my 1/2 ton Silverado too that I go right about 50K miles out of before replacing them.

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2017, 09:24:24 PM »
TIRE FINDING CHALLENGE:      I need 1 Falken Wildpeak AT2.

SIZE:   285 75 16

It has to be an AT2.   The AT3 is nothing like the AT2.

They aren't being made anymore.

I will readily admit that anyone who can locate one is a better man than me, and I will buy you a cheeseburger!

You've been stump broke, duh everyone knows thus.  :yike:


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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2017, 11:56:56 PM »
TIRE FINDING CHALLENGE:      I need 1 Falken Wildpeak AT2.

SIZE:   285 75 16

It has to be an AT2.   The AT3 is nothing like the AT2.

They aren't being made anymore.

I will readily admit that anyone who can locate one is a better man than me, and I will buy you a cheeseburger!

You've been stump broke, duh everyone knows thus.  :yike:


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Says in stock

https://simpletire.com/falken-lt285-75r16-28466611-tires

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2017, 12:33:49 PM »
Does anyone run cooper discoverer at 3's on their rigs? I have them on the work rig and I like them, but am curious to how many miles people have put on theirs.

Currently have cheaper Schwab at''s on my Toyota that need replaced when I am laid off for the season and am thinking leaning towards the at 3.

I'm on the second set of AT 3s on my 2500 HD Duramax and I love them. I got 53K miles on the last set with a pretty good mix of hauling, freeway and logging road use. They're not the best tire I've used in the snow but they do pretty well. I had a set on my 1/2 ton Silverado too that I go right about 50K miles out of before replacing them.

Thanks for the review. Not worried about snow as I plan on buying another rig and this truck will be sitting during ski season.
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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2017, 02:39:41 PM »
I just ordered the second set of AT3 for the explorer, putting those on in October.  First set has roughly 60k miles

I am putting on a set of Cooper STT Pro on the pickup tomorrow.

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2017, 04:11:43 PM »
@smdave

I think you are my hero.   

I saw this too late to get thru to them, but it sure looks like they have what I need!!!!

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2017, 07:53:34 PM »
Great trick to get a rock from between 2 dually tires.

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2017, 06:26:25 PM »
This is a pretty good fyi mounting video with common tools found in your shop. Small tire bars can be had reasonably priced  at places like harbor freight. The one issue I would point out using a standard pry bar like he uses is the sharp corners make the process harder on the bead. If you were in a pinch those tools worked but I would either buy the flat tire bars or grind the corners off the bar and sand them smooth to prevent bead ripping. All the bars at a tire shop are rounded for a reason.


Also not I e the TPMS sensor is the location where the tire finishes slipping on the wheel to prevent binding or damage to the sensors.

When I mount or demount my 4x4 or trailer tires I normally use hot slightly diluted dish soap. I do like the spray bottle but haven't done it that way.

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2017, 12:08:12 AM »
TIRE FINDING CHALLENGE:      I need 1 Falken Wildpeak AT2.

SIZE:   285 75 16

It has to be an AT2.   The AT3 is nothing like the AT2.

They aren't being made anymore.

I will readily admit that anyone who can locate one is a better man than me, and I will buy you a cheeseburger!

You've been stump broke, duh everyone knows thus.  :yike:


Somebody???


Anybody......?????/

Says in stock

https://simpletire.com/falken-lt285-75r16-28466611-tires

@smdave   

I owe you a cheeseburger!

I had given up hope of finding a matching tire for my three good ones after trashing one while the others were 90+%.

I checked dozens of sites and searched and searched.    I even had a couple tire places search.

You sir, are the man!

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2017, 11:50:21 AM »
I figured I better say something about chains since its that time of year.

It's best to always test fit your chains in the driveway. I like to use a jack so that I can test fit the tightness. Marking the correct link with a paint pen or spray paint. This helps a bunch marking the inside link because as you drive you can adjust the tension some "easily" on the outside. Depending on how long the tail is I like to have some bailing wire or zip ties to keep everything from flopping around.  If you do a good job test fitting and marking rubber tensioners are less important but still good to use. On my 4x4 I just use a short truckers black rubber bungie.

On my work truck 1 ton dually 2wd I just carry cable chains since I'm just going over the pass and such.

Since most of us are off I. The mountains off-road I recommend the burliest chain you can get they last a long time and often times your putting them on AFTER you should have already done so.

I'm a big fan of thick chain with ice breakers or cleats. I have used cut down semi truck chains for the 4x4 before with success... I just picked them up off the side of the pass and just cut and welded to fit... mostly these were just twist link ladder chains but the price was right.

Here is an installation video fro Quality Chain out of Hillbro OR


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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2017, 12:52:25 PM »
I can't put chains on my 2016 Colorado  >:(
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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2017, 01:32:28 PM »
I can't put chains on my 2016 Colorado  >:(
Just not on the front?

I am not a fan of these low profile 4x4 tires because of this. You can probably put chains on a 35"tire on a 20" rim but stock sizes arnt likely to work.

I don't see this as too big an issue for people that are just driving country roads but a pretty big deal for those with ice and mountains.

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2017, 08:21:53 PM »
I just replaced my first set of BFG AT KO's, on my 2013 allwheel drive van.68,000 miles.
great performance in mud and snow. I have firestone Mt's great tires, but when they are
done. At Ko's hands down

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2017, 08:56:53 PM »
I had BFG TA's and liked them, they got a bit hard and greasy when they started getting old and worn out. I imagine most tires suck when they get old though.

Went to replace them with the same, but couldn't get the standard TA's and couldn't stomach the price of the new KO2's... I replaced them with Kumho Road Venture AT51 tires for about $100 less PER TIRE! I also looked at General AT2's but the Generals were out of stock.

So far pretty happy with the Kumho Road Venture AT51's. They're significantly quieter than the TA's. And I got to test them elk hunting this year. They got me out of a foot of snow and through some nasty mud in the blues last weekend. After that they got me over white pass with no issue (Snoqualmie pass was closed...). I've driven about 2,000 miles on them, I'd be hard pressed to go back to BFG's.

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2018, 08:33:33 AM »

I liked this demounting video, and I've followed these guys channel  for ideas on my XJ. Don't use those scrappy harbor freight bars. You'll bend or break one in the middle of your project. Get a Ken tool brand from 6 Roblees or some where else.


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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2018, 11:28:41 AM »
Heres a question
Getting ready for new rubber and rims any input or experience with this size set up on here ?

Currently have a 3 inch lift with stock rims and 265/70/r17 toyo at2
2013 Toyota Tacoma quad cab short box
I pull an 18ft Duckworth and small travel trailer with it
drives pulls and handles well but want a little beefier all terrain look
wanted BFGs but cant get the size I want in load range C
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looking at Cooper Discoverer A/T3 and aftermarket chrome rims at discount tire
Cant decide on 275/70/r17 or 285/70/r17 ?
Looking to keep the smoothest ride possible
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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2018, 06:49:08 AM »
nobody ?
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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2018, 07:23:27 AM »
If you go bigger you will loose torque. Most notable when towing. I think both tires are good but don't have any experience with the coppers myself but I hear good things.

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Re: Everything about tires
« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2018, 07:24:31 AM »
thanks will more than likely go up one size to 275s
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