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I've thought about muzzle loader, but I don't know. One shot and ya got to get in pretty close. And no offense to you stick (bow) hunters, but I did the bow hunting thing several years back, had a bad experience with it, and will never do it again. Plus even after days and weeks of practice still couldn't hit the broadside of a barn
Quote from: brokehunter on August 11, 2012, 11:00:16 PMI've thought about muzzle loader, but I don't know. One shot and ya got to get in pretty close. And no offense to you stick (bow) hunters, but I did the bow hunting thing several years back, had a bad experience with it, and will never do it again. Plus even after days and weeks of practice still couldn't hit the broadside of a barn I might piss you off a little, but you wouldn't be the first person (or the last), so here goes. This post makes you sound a little lazy, no offense to you. I think you're seeing a lot of hunters because you don't go in very far and you're not willing to do what it takes to become proficient at another weapon. Days and weeks of practice? Archery is a lifestyle. It takes up to 6 months to become proficient with your first bow if you practice all the time. You have to develop good habits and muscle memory to effectively kill an animal with one. You also need the right equipment; not necessarily the best bow, but a good one with arrows that match, a good rest, and a good sight. Then, it takes constant shooting and maintenance to keep you ready. I don't doubt that you had a bad experience with it after only "days and weeks".Modern may well be the best season for you. Even so, get in butt-kicking shape and be willing to climb it steep for a couple of miles to get your own place. Then, the only people you'll run into are the other committed maniacs who train all year for one week of hunting.
Quote from: brokehunter on August 11, 2012, 11:00:16 PMI might piss you off a little, but you wouldn't be the first person (or the last), so here goes. This post makes you sound a little lazy, no offense to you. I think you're seeing a lot of hunters because you don't go in very far and you're not willing to do what it takes to become proficient at another weapon. Days and weeks of practice? Archery is a lifestyle. It takes up to 6 months to become proficient with your first bow if you practice all the time. You have to develop good habits and muscle memory to effectively kill an animal with one. You also need the right equipment; not necessarily the best bow, but a good one with arrows that match, a good rest, and a good sight. Then, it takes constant shooting and maintenance to keep you ready. I don't doubt that you had a bad experience with it after only "days and weeks".Modern may well be the best season for you. Even so, get in butt-kicking shape and be willing to climb it steep for a couple of miles to get your own place. Then, the only people you'll run into are the other committed maniacs who train all year for one week of hunting.
It doesn't matter if there are 15-20 trucks at a gate. Stop complaining and think about it for a minute. There must be a lot of animals if 15-20 trucks are parked there everyday. Sounds like you are a late riser? When I get to a popular gate, there are usually 1-2 rigs mine and my hunting crew. You can get past the crowds easy, usually under 5 miles. We hunt 8-15 miles back and do that daily and see maybe 1 other hunter all day. With the population in Washington at 6,830,038 you have to be willing to do what the another hunter won't. This might take a little more effort than riding around in a truck all day, but trust me, you will "get on" more animals
You should try Monster Bull Meadows, just past the Notellum Creek drainage. its public land (so you don't have to pay), OTC (so you don't have to figure out how a draw works and wait your turn in line), you can drive right up to the meadows, and its open during the rut for modern firearm. Game and fish requests that you use at least a .375 Holland and Holland magnum (gotta prove how big your manhood is), with at least a 14x scope (so your hunt doesn't drag past the first afternoon). This isn't too much to ask being that the unit has a 25% bull ratio and the average antler point is 6x6.
Quote from: Bean Counter on August 13, 2012, 02:51:28 PMYou should try Monster Bull Meadows, just past the Notellum Creek drainage. its public land (so you don't have to pay), OTC (so you don't have to figure out how a draw works and wait your turn in line), you can drive right up to the meadows, and its open during the rut for modern firearm. Game and fish requests that you use at least a .375 Holland and Holland magnum (gotta prove how big your manhood is), with at least a 14x scope (so your hunt doesn't drag past the first afternoon). This isn't too much to ask being that the unit has a 25% bull ratio and the average antler point is 6x6. I think I've been there.. WHAT AN EXPERIENCE!
yes avoid the coweeman there are no elk in there . i have hunted rifle and had success for elk and deer. just prefer hunting with my bow alot more fun. get a mtn bike and start exploring areas as much as you can get back in there a few miles im sure you will find some areas. good luck this season