Shag, I have a Bogen Manfrotto with the pistol grip, full size. Awesome tripod but too heavy, use it for the truck mostly. Picked up a K&K outta Oregon a few months ago, nice little tripod, light, rugged, and also has a pistol grip of thier design. They were at the portland sportsman show last year, mightta seen them? Anyway, good tripod, fits in the side of my Badlands 2200 nicely, and its light!! Hope this helps. Later