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I will leave it up to attorneys as to whether they are taking advantage or finally being able to utilize their treaty rights.
Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 12, 2013, 08:20:34 PMQuote from: bobcat on February 12, 2013, 01:08:12 PMThis is the problem with allowing the tribes to have a monopoly on gambling in this state. They now have more money than they know what to do with, and of course much of it ends up in the pockets of our politicians. I wouldn't be surprised in the future if they just flat out turned Washington state over to the tribes. This is sickening. At a time when our state government should be pulling in the reins on the Indians, they do the opposite. Thats where I am coming from ...100% A FACT ! Allowing? The state has gambling, plenty of private casinos out there, oh how about the state run lottery. The state regulates how their casinos operate. Tribes have more money than they know what to do with? Has anyone been to a reservation and seen some of the hardship and poverty? I don't doubt tribes support politicians that support tribal interests. Thats the American way. Been that way since the U.S. was formed. Why is it a time that the state should be reining in tribes??? What happened that makes this the time? I hope folks realize the state doesn't reign in tribal rights. Tribal rights were agreed upon in Federal treaties that trump a lot of the states ability to "reighn" in Indians.
Quote from: bobcat on February 12, 2013, 01:08:12 PMThis is the problem with allowing the tribes to have a monopoly on gambling in this state. They now have more money than they know what to do with, and of course much of it ends up in the pockets of our politicians. I wouldn't be surprised in the future if they just flat out turned Washington state over to the tribes. This is sickening. At a time when our state government should be pulling in the reins on the Indians, they do the opposite. Thats where I am coming from ...100% A FACT !
This is the problem with allowing the tribes to have a monopoly on gambling in this state. They now have more money than they know what to do with, and of course much of it ends up in the pockets of our politicians. I wouldn't be surprised in the future if they just flat out turned Washington state over to the tribes. This is sickening. At a time when our state government should be pulling in the reins on the Indians, they do the opposite.
Quote from: Practical Approach on February 12, 2013, 09:36:39 PMI will leave it up to attorneys as to whether they are taking advantage or finally being able to utilize their treaty rights. Of course you will.
Quote from: bigtex on February 11, 2013, 07:03:39 PMA lot of these bills sponsors are also on the committee responsible for hearing and pushing this bill forward We need to contact our Represntatives as well.
A lot of these bills sponsors are also on the committee responsible for hearing and pushing this bill forward
Quote from: jshunt on February 11, 2013, 07:46:05 PMQuote from: bigtex on February 11, 2013, 07:03:39 PMA lot of these bills sponsors are also on the committee responsible for hearing and pushing this bill forward We need to contact our Represntatives as well.A response I received today from Rep. Jan Angel.I checked in to this as I thought this was new legislation –it is not. It is already current law and it appears it was offered for clarity. I will watch as if it is amended in any way that opens other doors I will take appropriate action. Thanks for your e-mail –these bills do not appear to really even be necessary. Rep. Jan Angel
These separate rights for public resources perpetuate racism, animosity and bitterness. They help prevent integration and hurt goodwill among citizens of different backgrounds. It is increasingly hard to see this as a good thing for anyone involved in the long run. I increasingly wonder whether separate wildlife rights are the way to go anymore. It's a complicated issue, though, I'll concede.
Quote from: npaull on February 14, 2013, 12:21:22 PMThese separate rights for public resources perpetuate racism, animosity and bitterness. They help prevent integration and hurt goodwill among citizens of different backgrounds. It is increasingly hard to see this as a good thing for anyone involved in the long run. I increasingly wonder whether separate wildlife rights are the way to go anymore. It's a complicated issue, though, I'll concede.In my opinion, no one should ever "concede" if they feel strongly about something. Tribal issues are obviously sensitive issues. Based on some of the posts I've read, there appear to be several tribal members that read and participate in the forum. The goal for all of us, tribal and non-tribal, should be to promote wildlife management based on sound and unbiased science. Any departure from that hurts all of us and the wildlife populations. If there are laws in place that defeat that goal, then we should work to change that. "We" means tribal members and non-tribal citizens. Laws can be nullified and/or changed to do what is benficial for all of us and the wildlife populations. The way to do that is to identify real issues that can be verified and studied. We cannot allow an "us versus them" rift to develop; if it's already there, let's work to fix it.
I think you may misinterpret - I'm not conceding my opinion, merely acknowledging that it's complicated.
Well said. I noticed that a couple of the tribal members on here agreed with you as well, however actions suggests that the tribes have zero interest in working together if it means any kind of limitations imposed on their hunting/fishing rights, even if presented with sound and unbiased science.
