bow suddenly shooting 6 inches high...? (updated)

[bearpaw]

It could be any of the things mentioned. If he is sure he is keeping the same exact anchor point then move the whole sight slightly so all the pins move as needed. Just be sure he is keeping the same anchor point and that the sights and peep are all solid tight and not loose. Have him continue shooting, it might not be a problem again. 

[D-Rock425]

What type of rest does he shoot?

[et1702]

Have him knock and arrow and see if it's still approx 90 degrees from string.  Sounds like D-loop slipped, or peep sight moved.  Otherwise, he may think he's anchoring the same, but he's not!

BTW, did you guys pick up the Oregon Eagle Caps drop camp trip?  If so, good luck and let me know how you do. 

Also, if Dad's over here on west side, I'd be happy for him to come over and I can watch him shoot and maybe help w/issue.

Take care,

ET

[vandeman17]

Have him knock and arrow and see if it's still approx 90 degrees from string.  Sounds like D-loop slipped, or peep sight moved.  Otherwise, he may think he's anchoring the same, but he's not!

BTW, did you guys pick up the Oregon Eagle Caps drop camp trip?  If so, good luck and let me know how you do. 

Also, if Dad's over here on west side, I'd be happy for him to come over and I can watch him shoot and maybe help w/issue.

Take care,

ET

I will talk to him more tonight and see what the bow shop says and try to do some trouble shooting. I really think it is either the peep or the d loop but we will see.

He actually lives down in Redmond Oregon but thanks for the offer! 

[pianoman9701]

All of the above - D-Ring, tight sight, arrow rest, peep sight. Is it possible he banged it or one of the cables came out of the separator? Is something stuck in a pulley, like a twig? Is something hitting the string?

[vandeman17]

All of the above - D-Ring, tight sight, arrow rest, peep sight. Is it possible he banged it or one of the cables came out of the separator? Is something stuck in a pulley, like a twig? Is something hitting the string?

He is really careful with his bow. He sets it down in the same place every time he shoots and makes sure not to bang it around at all. I wish I was closer so I could watch him shoot and see

[cocogirl]

I can't assume anything about the shooter as I haven't seen him shoot. If he is sure that he isn't doing anything different then we have to double check the bow. It sounds like he is experienced enough to know if he is doing something wrong.
Yes, it could be a sight that has loosened up or any number of things that have loosened on his bow. If the sight hasn't moved and he is sure of it, then it only leaves one thing. His nocking point has lowered by something on the arrow rest, peep, d-loop or string. String stretch, peep moving up, d-loop down, arrow rest changed. Each of these can cause several issues, cams out of time, depending on which cam can cause high arrow flight. Simplicity of a bow, if it shoots high and nothing has change from the shooter or the sights, then it is the nock point in someway.
Have him focus on the things that can and do effect it.
Should be able to identify the issue in a short time.
Hope that helps and he gets it going again shortly, mostly just tell him don't get upset with it. It happens and just needs figured out and fixed. I think it can, has or will happen to everyone that ever shoots a bow, something will change and we just fix it. That is what makes it so much fun.
Now if everything checks out on the bow, then need to really double check the form but nothing is unfixable. Just find it and then we fix it.
Normally in a case like that it is something simple and when we figure it out, we end up shaking our heads at ourselves, laughing and getting after it again.
Good luck on hunting to both of you this year.

[vandeman17]

I can't assume anything about the shooter as I haven't seen him shoot. If he is sure that he isn't doing anything different then we have to double check the bow. It sounds like he is experienced enough to know if he is doing something wrong.
Yes, it could be a sight that has loosened up or any number of things that have loosened on his bow. If the sight hasn't moved and he is sure of it, then it only leaves one thing. His nocking point has lowered by something on the arrow rest, peep, d-loop or string. String stretch, peep moving up, d-loop down, arrow rest changed. Each of these can cause several issues, cams out of time, depending on which cam can cause high arrow flight. Simplicity of a bow, if it shoots high and nothing has change from the shooter or the sights, then it is the nock point in someway.
Have him focus on the things that can and do effect it.
Should be able to identify the issue in a short time.
Hope that helps and he gets it going again shortly, mostly just tell him don't get upset with it. It happens and just needs figured out and fixed. I think it can, has or will happen to everyone that ever shoots a bow, something will change and we just fix it. That is what makes it so much fun.
Now if everything checks out on the bow, then need to really double check the form but nothing is unfixable. Just find it and then we fix it.
Normally in a case like that it is something simple and when we figure it out, we end up shaking our heads at ourselves, laughing and getting after it again.
Good luck on hunting to both of you this year.

Thank you!

[vandeman17]

My dad ended up bringing his bow down to the bow shop in Bend and it turns out that his peep had slid. They fixed that and ended up extending his draw length and adjusting his form a bit. He is having a bit of a tougher time drawing now that the letoff is farther back but he will get used to it.

[pianoman9701]

Cool beans. 

I mark my string with a sharpee where it touches the peep so I know it hasn't moved. You have to retouch the marks every month or so while shooting steadily, but it makes that adjustment easy as heck when it goes out.

[vandeman17]

Cool beans. 

I mark my string with a sharpee where it touches the peep so I know it hasn't moved. You have to retouch the marks every month or so while shooting steadily, but it makes that adjustment easy as heck when it goes out.

That is a good idea, especially before going on a hunt. Last thing you would want is to have something happen the day before a big bull steps out in front of you. 

[WonkyWapiti]

Sounds like peep travel to me.

I've had this problem before too.  Another problem I had that changed my point of impact was my drop away rest that was tied into my bowstring started to slide.  A little bit of serving string to hold it in place and voila I was good to go again.  It sure was frustrating at first tho until I figured it out.

[BULLBLASTER]

With a consistent anchor and form you will instantly know if the peep has moved as soon as you hit your anchor. I have had my peep move and can slide it back to the same spot without shooting and know its in the correct spot.

[pianoman9701]

I agree about form but a 1/4" move might not be noticed. The mark on the string doesn't hurt to have.

[vandeman17]

With a consistent anchor and form you will instantly know if the peep has moved as soon as you hit your anchor. I have had my peep move and can slide it back to the same spot without shooting and know its in the correct spot.

I don't think my dad has/had enough experience to fully notice a change so that is probably why it wasn't obvious when it happened.