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ram score?
« on: October 08, 2013, 12:52:25 AM »
Anybody who knows how to score sheep have any idea what he would score and his age? Since i'm gonna draw a tag next year lol
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2013, 07:54:34 AM »
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2013, 08:03:02 AM »
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2013, 08:05:34 AM »
Lincoln Cliffs tag would be a fun one to draw.  If you can get permission to hunt that is.
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2013, 08:37:11 AM »
7 1/2 160ish
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2013, 04:46:50 PM »
Lincoln Cliffs tag would be a fun one to draw.  If you can get permission to hunt that is.
Yea it would, I just need to draw a tag
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2013, 04:57:37 PM »
Is that just a few miles above the Lincoln boat launch?
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2013, 05:01:10 PM »
Is that just a few miles above the Lincoln boat launch?
Yea it's 2 or 3 miles
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2013, 05:07:29 PM »
I was in somebody's yard one time a few years back, playing catch when a ram that looked like that fella went bounding right through the yard and down the hill toward the launch. 

Those things can really roll quickly when they want to, a neighbor's dog gave chase and that thing stopped on a dime and chased him off   :chuckle:

Good luck drawing the tag.  That's the hardest part of that hunt.  Not much hiking to do and those sheep are so used to people, it's ridiculous.
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2013, 05:30:35 PM »
Looks like 6 1/2 to me harder to tell with the shade on his horns. I would guess 145-150 myself.
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2013, 04:49:28 AM »
Looks like low 150 to me....

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Re: ram score?
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2013, 05:37:08 AM »
Will score horribly better to let him grow several years
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2013, 07:30:05 AM »
6-7 and low to mid 150's, the left is broomed and shorter then the right.
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2013, 08:09:39 AM »
Looks like 6 1/2 to me harder to tell with the shade on his horns. I would guess 145-150 myself.

If a ram is 150-ish at 6.5 years old, how old is he going to be when he reaches 175-180?
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2013, 08:38:43 PM »
He will never make it to 175-180.

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Re: ram score?
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2013, 08:41:28 PM »
Looks like 6 1/2 to me harder to tell with the shade on his horns. I would guess 145-150 myself.

If a ram is 150-ish at 6.5 years old, how old is he going to be when he reaches 175-180?

He would probably need to be 9.5 to 10.5 to reach 180.
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2013, 08:44:19 PM »
Looks like 6 1/2 to me harder to tell with the shade on his horns. I would guess 145-150 myself.

If a ram is 150-ish at 6.5 years old, how old is he going to be when he reaches 175-180?

A lot depends on genetics and how much the rams broom there horns. Which is where they rub down there tips and cut length off of there score. I am not a big horn expert but have scored and killed many exotic rams that are scored the same way and most of them don't broom. I cant remember if it's the rocky or cali sheep that broom the most. Some of the bighorn guys like bone or pope or phool could tell you I bet.
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2013, 01:52:55 PM »
Yeah that left side looks pretty dinged up and I imagine another 4 years wouldn't help with the brooming.

So by 5.5-6.5 years, a ram's potential is easy to judge?
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Re: ram score?
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2013, 02:07:19 PM »
I basically have no sheep experience, so looking for some guidance here...wouldn't they generally score better after they lose the lamb tips because the mass measurements get moved back up the horn and make up for the lost length?

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Re: ram score?
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2013, 02:33:26 PM »
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I basically have no sheep experience, so looking for some guidance here...wouldn't they generally score better after they lose the lamb tips because the mass measurements get moved back up the horn and make up for the lost length?
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The measurements do get pushed back indeed.   Mass measurements are derived from  dividing the "Longer" horn into quarters.  A shorter more broomed back or broken horn ram will therefore have incresed mass measurements.   It is not very common to see a mature ram that is lamb tipped.  Romulus nailed in his quote.  There are a lot of rams that will die of old age and never reachnever be a 170+   There are others that will hit 170+ as a 4 1/2 year old.   These are in areas that have the genetics to produce heavy horned rams with basal measuremtns meeting or exceeding 16" 
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