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Re: is this becmoing a trend?
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2013, 07:45:34 PM »
Going up to another hunter and telling them they should not be breasting their ducks in the field or lot will never be taken kindly.

You are better just to be a good witness and report it to a game agent. Let them have the talk with them.  :twocents:

That's always a good rule of thumb dealing with anyone breaking the law while armed.  :yike:

Yes and No. You'd better have some solid evidence to give the game agent or your report will fall on deaf ears and the law breaker will continue his routine.
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Re: is this becmoing a trend?
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2013, 05:37:12 AM »
Going up to another hunter and telling them they should not be breasting their ducks in the field or lot will never be taken kindly.

You are better just to be a good witness and report it to a game agent. Let them have the talk with them.  :twocents:

That's always a good rule of thumb dealing with anyone breaking the law while armed.  :yike:

Yes and No. You'd better have some solid evidence to give the game agent or your report will fall on deaf ears and the law breaker will continue his routine.

So, you're saying you should approach an armed law-breaker? The best you can do is get as many details as possible and report it, hoping that at the very least, they'll be talked to. Unless someone's life is in imminent danger, you should never approach an armed law-breaker and point out the law to them. It's stupid and an unnecessary risk. If it falls on deaf ears, so be it. It's breasting ducks, not shooting kids in a school. Walk away.
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Re: is this becmoing a trend?
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2013, 10:37:03 AM »
Going up to another hunter and telling them they should not be breasting their ducks in the field or lot will never be taken kindly.

You are better just to be a good witness and report it to a game agent. Let them have the talk with them.  :twocents:

That's always a good rule of thumb dealing with anyone breaking the law while armed.  :yike:

Yes and No. You'd better have some solid evidence to give the game agent or your report will fall on deaf ears and the law breaker will continue his routine.

So, you're saying you should approach an armed law-breaker? The best you can do is get as many details as possible and report it, hoping that at the very least, they'll be talked to. Unless someone's life is in imminent danger, you should never approach an armed law-breaker and point out the law to them. It's stupid and an unnecessary risk. If it falls on deaf ears, so be it. It's breasting ducks, not shooting kids in a school. Walk away.

I have reported it as your stated Pianoman many, many times over the years with no response whatsoever and when I followed up, I was told that the infraction would have to be witnessed first hand otherwise it was simply 'hear say'.
I've approached many hunters/fishermen, armed and unarmed to discuss unethical and illegal acts. I love the sports I participate in and take them seriously enough to try to protect them to the best of my ability. Far too many folks in this world have turned into pacifists, allowing everyone around them to do as they please. Part of the problem in the country. I'm guessing you've got a few years under your belt. If so, you'd remember anyone and everyone correcting and directing you as you were growing up. Not so today.
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Re: is this becmoing a trend?
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2013, 10:41:02 AM »
Going up to another hunter and telling them they should not be breasting their ducks in the field or lot will never be taken kindly.

You are better just to be a good witness and report it to a game agent. Let them have the talk with them.  :twocents:

That's always a good rule of thumb dealing with anyone breaking the law while armed.  :yike:

Yes and No. You'd better have some solid evidence to give the game agent or your report will fall on deaf ears and the law breaker will continue his routine.

So, you're saying you should approach an armed law-breaker? The best you can do is get as many details as possible and report it, hoping that at the very least, they'll be talked to. Unless someone's life is in imminent danger, you should never approach an armed law-breaker and point out the law to them. It's stupid and an unnecessary risk. If it falls on deaf ears, so be it. It's breasting ducks, not shooting kids in a school. Walk away.

I have reported it as your stated Pianoman many, many times over the years with no response whatsoever and when I followed up, I was told that the infraction would have to be witnessed first hand otherwise it was simply 'hear say'.
I've approached many hunters/fishermen, armed and unarmed to discuss unethical and illegal acts. I love the sports I participate in and take them seriously enough to try to protect them to the best of my ability. Far too many folks in this world have turned into pacifists, allowing everyone around them to do as they please. Part of the problem in the country. I'm guessing you've got a few years under your belt. If so, you'd remember anyone and everyone correcting and directing you as you were growing up. Not so today.

I'm far from being a pacifist and I have approached people breaking the rules and spoken with them about it. Most of the time, to no avail because they know they're breaking the rules and don't care. However, I would never advise someone else to do likewise. It's too dangerous. As we are advised in the CORT system of witnessing and reporting, just get as many details as you can and report it without being detected. Someone getting away with breasting out ducks is going to be better than someone getting shot over someone breasting out ducks.
"Restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens based on the actions of criminals and madmen will have no positive effect on the future acts of criminals and madmen. It will only serve to reduce individual rights and the very security of our republic." - Pianoman https://linktr.ee/johnlwallace https://valoaneducator.tv/johnwallace-2014743

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Re: is this becmoing a trend?
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2013, 04:47:17 PM »
Going up to another hunter and telling them they should not be breasting their ducks in the field or lot will never be taken kindly.

You are better just to be a good witness and report it to a game agent. Let them have the talk with them.  :twocents:

That's always a good rule of thumb dealing with anyone breaking the law while armed.  :yike:

Yes and No. You'd better have some solid evidence to give the game agent or your report will fall on deaf ears and the law breaker will continue his routine.

So, you're saying you should approach an armed law-breaker? The best you can do is get as many details as possible and report it, hoping that at the very least, they'll be talked to. Unless someone's life is in imminent danger, you should never approach an armed law-breaker and point out the law to them. It's stupid and an unnecessary risk. If it falls on deaf ears, so be it. It's breasting ducks, not shooting kids in a school. Walk away.

I have reported it as your stated Pianoman many, many times over the years with no response whatsoever and when I followed up, I was told that the infraction would have to be witnessed first hand otherwise it was simply 'hear say'.
I've approached many hunters/fishermen, armed and unarmed to discuss unethical and illegal acts. I love the sports I participate in and take them seriously enough to try to protect them to the best of my ability. Far too many folks in this world have turned into pacifists, allowing everyone around them to do as they please. Part of the problem in the country. I'm guessing you've got a few years under your belt. If so, you'd remember anyone and everyone correcting and directing you as you were growing up. Not so today.

I'm far from being a pacifist and I have approached people breaking the rules and spoken with them about it. Most of the time, to no avail because they know they're breaking the rules and don't care. However, I would never advise someone else to do likewise. It's too dangerous. As we are advised in the CORT system of witnessing and reporting, just get as many details as you can and report it without being detected. Someone getting away with breasting out ducks is going to be better than someone getting shot over someone breasting out ducks.

Graduate of "CORT" also and yes, I don't advise others to do anything stupid but sometimes pointing out the long term effects of their actions sheds new light on them. A selfish hunter breaking a small law is far from the same selfish angry hunter shooting a human being. Maybe I'm taking a chance but sometimes it's gotta be done. What's more important is that we all stick together and do everything we can to prevent any losses to our great sports.
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