Author Topic: Attic Rack Scored Today (Read 5365 times)

Lon · « **on:** February 21, 2014, 06:24:49 PM »

Long story short I found a nice Non Typical Mule Deer rack in an attic, been there several decades, had a reputable Taxidermist mount a cape/head mount, etc. Just had it scored today @ 214 3/8. My question is it has a metal tag on it that's stamped U.S.F.S. Game Permit 13456. Can anyone tell me anything about the metal tag with just this info?
Where does 214 3/8 put it in the WA.St. recored book if anywhere?
Looks like it missed B&C by 5/8?
Thanks, Lon

WA1232 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2014, 08:22:54 PM »

I can't help with you questions, but great buck and beautiful mount.

http://www.nwbiggame.com/top_10.cfm
WA big game records, if taken with a rifle it is not near the top ten.

Have more of a story for it?

Axle · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2014, 08:38:06 PM »

With a tag number like that - it's a true collector's item. Not to mention a nice mulie rack!

bigmacc · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2014, 08:45:11 PM »

Very cool and a neat bonus with the old metal tag..

....Maybe check with the game dept or forest service and they may be able to give some info on the year it was taken,are you sure its a washington buck? I have seen a few of the old metal tags from washington and the ones i,ve seen have some numbers and a WN on them

.I,m sure they could have changed year to year back then,who knows. Wherever its from its quite a find,but it would be neat to track down a little history on the old fella.Good luck and keep us posted!

Lon · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2014, 08:51:43 PM »

Thanks for the replies!
I did a google search for WA.St. Mule Deer records and found nothing except to buy the book. Is there anywhere on the net I can check the Wa.St. top 100?

jackelope · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2014, 09:43:16 PM »

That's an incredible buck.

jrebel · « **Reply #6 on:** February 21, 2014, 09:57:14 PM »

Awesome find. Very cool buck and great mount.

huntnphool · « **Reply #7 on:** February 21, 2014, 10:00:14 PM »

kentrek · « **Reply #8 on:** February 21, 2014, 10:01:41 PM »

So #1 was shot in lewis county ?

Great find btw

Lon · « **Reply #9 on:** February 21, 2014, 10:15:01 PM »

Jakelope, yes I understand the buck missed the B&C by 5/8, I still want to know where it would rank in the WA.St. record book if at all. Anyone have a 2013 Book that could look that up?
Thanks again to all, Lon

jackelope · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2014, 10:28:55 PM »

That's the top 10 non typicals, Washington state with a rifle in the NW book as of the most recent printing. Without the actual book, that's as good as it gets.

Lon · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2014, 10:55:52 PM »

Just curious, if you gave a mount to be scored to lets say 5 diff. scorers how close together would they be?

MtnMuley · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2014, 03:05:35 AM »

At least 5/8" off.

Is there any story to go with this great buck?

Eli346 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 22, 2014, 05:11:29 AM »

I'm with you Kentrek. I don't see how they can register the #1 mule deer out of Lewis County. Wouldn't it still be considered a blacktail on this side of the Cascades; a crossover probably but a mule deer?

huntnphool · « **Reply #14 on:** February 22, 2014, 05:28:39 AM »

Interesting that Cabelas has the #2 somewhere.

jackelope · « **Reply #15 on:** February 22, 2014, 07:38:40 AM »

Quote from: Eli346 on February 22, 2014, 05:11:29 AM

I'm with you Kentrek. I don't see how they can register the #1 mule deer out of Lewis County. Wouldn't it still be considered a blacktail on this side of the Cascades; a crossover probably but a mule deer?

If it is east of I-5 it is a mule deer. Boone and Crockett has no designation for a "cascade" blacktail or any deer other than a blacktail is west of I-5 and a mule deer east of I-5. Same for pope and young. NW Big Game Records, on the other hand, has a cascade blacktail category.

h2ofowlr · « **Reply #16 on:** February 22, 2014, 07:46:29 AM »

Definitely a great looking buck.

kentrek · « **Reply #17 on:** February 22, 2014, 07:50:25 AM »

Ya but but nwbiggame number one nontypical mule deer is from lewis county

at least that's what your screen shot says lol kinda off topic , still a great buck

jackelope · « **Reply #18 on:** February 22, 2014, 08:10:50 AM »

Quote from: kentrek on February 22, 2014, 07:50:25 AM

Ya but but nwbiggame number one nontypical mule deer is from lewis county at least that's what your screen shot says lol kinda off topic , still a great buck

Yeah I guess I wasn't thinking straight there. Duhh.

buckfvr · « **Reply #19 on:** February 22, 2014, 08:29:13 AM »

In 1987 I had a blacktail scored by Jay St. CHarles. He made me point out on a map he had, exactly where I shot it. He then proceeded to place a transparent overlay on the map, and it had the line on it where they differentiated between blacktail and mule deer. It was definetly west of the crest, but no where near I-5.

So when that buck was killed, even if the line was where it was in 1987, there was a large portion of Lewis county that would have scored it as a mule. Besides, who hasnt seen mule deer west of the crest

?

Even if the line is now I-5 ( and I cant immagine it would be ), that would not change the facts from old rules and scoring.

I just googled it and checked boundaries for scoring deer in Wa. and the line is no where near I-5.........reading the boundary, it seems to me the line may have been moved east some, but certainly not west to I-5.

cohocrazy · « **Reply #20 on:** February 22, 2014, 08:43:39 AM »

That is a sweet find. Good luck tracking down the history on it.

kentrek · « **Reply #21 on:** February 22, 2014, 08:50:14 AM »

Quote from: buckfvr on February 22, 2014, 08:29:13 AM

In 1987 I had a blacktail scored by Jay St. CHarles. He made me point out on a map he had, exactly where I shot it. He then proceeded to place a transparent overlay on the map, and it had the line on it where they differentiated between blacktail and mule deer. It was definetly west of the crest, but no where near I-5.

So when that buck was killed, even if the line was where it was in 1987, there was a large portion of Lewis county that would have scored it as a mule. Besides, who hasnt seen mule deer west of the crest ?

Even if the line is now I-5 ( and I cant immagine it would be ), that would not change the facts from old rules and scoring.

I just googled it and checked boundaries for scoring deer in Wa. and the line is no where near I-5.........reading the boundary, it seems to me the line may have been moved east some, but certainly not west to I-5.

If you go to nw big game records top ten, they provide a map that clearly shows no mule deer in lewis county

maybe I read it wrong but thats what I thought it said....it would be awesome to find out the story of that number one nontypical "mule deer"

Lon · « **Reply #22 on:** February 22, 2014, 09:15:32 AM »

Someone here on the forum has to have the Wa.St. Record book, no?
Some on this thread have asked about the back story of the buck/rack. I reluctantly tell it because alot of hunters despise the fact that it was found in an attic instead of harvested/killed in a long drawn out hunt. I have spent my share of time humping up & down mountains, laying in wait in wheat and corn fields, etc. so it doesn't bother me that it is what it is. That's why I am here to find out more about it starting with the metal tag. Yes, I have shown it to the WA.St. Game Dep. nothing, the WA.St. Forest Service again nothing. I can't prove it's a WA. buck yet but I can prove it's been in WA. in one place for over 50 years. The metal tags started at some point and ended at some point and may even have changed threw the years just like the Wa.St. auto license plate has if I may use that analogy. More info on the metal tags would be great but it's pretty hard finding someone "in the know" that is still alive!

The scout · « **Reply #23 on:** February 22, 2014, 10:13:55 AM »

very cool buck either way, it would be very cool to find out the back story. I have seen a number of old pics of my family and there kill but can't seem to find what happened to all the antlers, would love to have some on my wall from them.

jackelope · « **Reply #24 on:** February 22, 2014, 11:19:28 AM »

I think my boundaries are mixed up with the elk boundaries. My apologies.

sakoshooter · « **Reply #25 on:** February 22, 2014, 12:49:02 PM »

The tag looks exactly like the ones we used to use in WI.

Lon · « **Reply #26 on:** February 22, 2014, 01:16:43 PM »

Did it have WI. on the tag?

buckfvr · « **Reply #27 on:** February 22, 2014, 01:25:50 PM »

Quote from: kentrek on February 22, 2014, 08:50:14 AM

Quote from: buckfvr on February 22, 2014, 08:29:13 AM
In 1987 I had a blacktail scored by Jay St. CHarles. He made me point out on a map he had, exactly where I shot it. He then proceeded to place a transparent overlay on the map, and it had the line on it where they differentiated between blacktail and mule deer. It was definetly west of the crest, but no where near I-5.

So when that buck was killed, even if the line was where it was in 1987, there was a large portion of Lewis county that would have scored it as a mule. Besides, who hasnt seen mule deer west of the crest ?

Even if the line is now I-5 ( and I cant immagine it would be ), that would not change the facts from old rules and scoring.

I just googled it and checked boundaries for scoring deer in Wa. and the line is no where near I-5.........reading the boundary, it seems to me the line may have been moved east some, but certainly not west to I-5.

If you go to nw big game records top ten, they provide a map that clearly shows no mule deer in lewis county maybe I read it wrong but thats what I thought it said....it would be awesome to find out the story of that number one nontypical "mule deer"

I agree that may well be the case now, but dont believe it was back then.

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