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Re: Methow post-fires deer situation
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2014, 09:11:00 PM »
Do you have anything else to say, or are you just going to post the same thing you read and agree with twice? :dunno:

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Re: Methow post-fires deer situation
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2014, 10:14:09 PM »
Do you have anything else to say, or are you just going to post the same thing you read and agree with twice? :dunno:


Lance- Well, no I only wanted to post the information that was posted on the WDFW website, since that is what was asked for. Here is the news release that was emailed out, if you'd prefer to read that. It's basically the same information in a more condensed format.


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WASHINGTON DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE
NEWS RELEASE
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
August 07, 2014
Contact: Jim Brown, (509) 754-4624 ext. 219


WDFW assesses habitat affected by wildfires,
helps landowners fence out displaced wildlife


OLYMPIA – State wildlife managers are working with Okanogan landowners to protect their crops from deer displaced by area wildfires and are assessing the fires’ damage to wildlife habitat.

In addition to burning hundreds of homes, the Carlton Complex fire has scorched tens of thousands of acres of habitat used by wildlife, including mule deer, wild turkeys and western gray squirrels. The fire, which is still burning in some areas, has damaged 25,000 acres within five wildlife area units managed by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW).

“A fire of this magnitude will have both short and long-term effects on wildlife populations and the landscape and that will have implications for hunting and grazing in the area,” said Jim Brown, WDFW regional director. “This is not a problem with easy answers.”

The burned area is home to a local mule deer population, which lives there year-round, and supports thousands of migratory deer during the winter. Some of the areas may still provide winter habitat depending on weather throughout this summer and fall.

Even if conditions are ideal, however, there will be too many deer for the area to support this winter and possibly for several years to come, said Scott Fitkin, WDFW district wildlife biologist in Okanogan County.

“We know we need to take steps to reduce the size of the herd,” Fitkin said. “That effort will focus initially on minimizing conflicts between deer and agricultural landowners.”

WDFW is working with local property owners to stop deer from moving into orchards, hay fields and pastures to seek food and cover. The department is helping landowners replace a limited number of fire-damaged fences and seek state and federal emergency funding.

“We expect more issues to arise as migratory deer return to the area this fall, but we are taking steps now to minimize those problems,” said Ellen Heilhecker, WDFW wildlife conflict specialist in Okanogan County.

WDFW likely will increase the number of antlerless deer permits issued this fall and winter, reaching out first to youth and senior hunters and hunters with disabilities. The department will directly contact hunters who already applied for deer permits in the area, so a new application process is unnecessary, Fitkin said.

The agency plans to draw deer and other wildlife away from agricultural lands with feed this summer and fall. WDFW is considering a feeding program for deer this winter.

“Winter feeding is not a long term solution,” Fitkin said. “At best, it’s a stop-gap measure until the deer population and habitat are back in balance.”

Sustained supplemental feeding is neither efficient nor beneficial to wildlife and often creates problems, he said. Feeding concentrates animals, making them more vulnerable to predators, poaching and disease, such as hair slip, which is already a concern for deer in the region. Having so many animals clustered in one area also causes damage to the land and can hinder restoration efforts.

In the winter, deer prefer to eat shrubs and bitterbrush, which WDFW plans to re-seed on department lands within the burned area. However, it will take many years for shrubs and bitterbrush to re-establish in the damaged area. Likewise, western gray squirrel habitat could take several years to recover. In some areas, ponderosa pine and Douglas fir tree stands sustained significant damage.

WDFW will work with other government agencies on restoration activities such as timber salvage and weed control. The agency also has located alternate wildlife units   in Okanogan County with suitable forage for emergency livestock grazing. This grazing will be offered to department permit-holders first, then to others if enough land is available.

Like other public land managers, WDFW likely will close roads in some wildlife units due to hazardous trees, said Dale Swedberg, WDFW’s Okanogan lands operations manager. That could reduce access for hunting in the burned areas this fall.

“We’re developing contingency plans in anticipation of what happens during the remainder of the fire season, fall green-up and winter severity,” Swedberg said.

Hunters and others should check WDFW’s wildfire webpage at wdfw.wa.gov/wildfires for updates on conditions and access on WDFW lands. Information on wildlife and restoration efforts in the affected area also can be found on the webpage.

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Re: Methow post-fires deer situation
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2014, 10:28:00 PM »
Seems like a reasonable and proactive response by WDFW to manage the situation as best they can  :dunno:  Sounds like deer numbers will be down for many years into the future with the loss of winter habitat though.
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Re: Methow post-fires deer situation
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2014, 11:38:55 AM »
Has there been any conversation about trapping a bunch and relocating to different areas of the state?  I'm sure many would be willing to volunteer for this kind of effort.  Wouldn't be hard to bait deer in under a drop net and catch a bunch at a time.  Deer are saved, farmers are happy due to a reduction and other areas of the state would potentially get an infusion of different genes into the population and an improvement in population size.

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Re: Methow post-fires deer situation
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2014, 12:02:03 PM »
Sure is nice how Mr. Fitkin gives his input on the situation!! :bash:
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Re: Methow post-fires deer situation
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2014, 12:45:29 PM »
Sure is nice how Mr. Fitkin gives his input on the situation!! :bash:
Why wouldn't he?  :dunno:
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Re: Methow post-fires deer situation
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2014, 12:52:25 PM »

Sure is nice how Mr. Fitkin gives his input on the situation!! :bash:
Why wouldn't he?  :dunno:

I was a bit confused about that statement as well. After all, Scott Fitkin is the WDFW wildlife biologist for that area. It seems like if anyone should be providing an opinion in regards to the fire's affect on mule deer, it should be him.

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Re: Methow post-fires deer situation
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2014, 02:18:07 PM »
Obviously you guys don't know Fitkin very well and how he manages to talk thru both ends. two words: Not Trustworthy
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Re: Methow post-fires deer situation
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2014, 04:08:34 PM »
My daughter drew a youth doe tag for unit 239. And since the fire I decided we are not going to hunt in that area. I actually want my daughters points restored.
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Re: Methow post-fires deer situation
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2014, 09:12:30 PM »
If any antlerless tags were to be given out and I BY NO MEANS am suggesting any should, then I think they should be offered to those with a 98856, 98814, etc........zip code.   Those people are the ones that could use the extra meat in their freezers and its their yards and their vehicles that are going to pay the price this winter.   Just my thought.


Agree with ya bone :tup:.....

And you guys want to hear some numbers that will make you sick,showing just whats happening to this once mighty herd and the direction they are headed, here ya go----The mule deer harvest amongst these units(212,218,224,230,236 and half of 242)in 1968 was 14,260 deer...it was 40 percent of the total mule deer harvest for washington state that year. Whats sad is hearing that about 10,000 deer will winter in this valley this year according to Mr.Fitken.Shows the downhill slide of this herd,very sad.

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Re: Methow post-fires deer situation
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2014, 06:20:00 AM »
If any antlerless tags were to be given out and I BY NO MEANS am suggesting any should, then I think they should be offered to those with a 98856, 98814, etc........zip code.   Those people are the ones that could use the extra meat in their freezers and its their yards and their vehicles that are going to pay the price this winter.   Just my thought.

I can agree with that statement about the zip codes.  :tup:



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Re: Methow post-fires deer situation
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2014, 10:08:25 PM »
Any news from WDFW on what they're proposing?

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