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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2016, 08:45:18 PM »
I agree that the CPL is the way to go but there is nothing "gray" about the law I quoted and I have talked to the WDFW attorney regarding it. Dumb law but there are others just like it on the books.

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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2016, 09:08:04 PM »
The only problem is that outside of DNR/DFW and some Parks Officers, lots of conventional LE don't know or understand the exceptions.  And few like a good argument, even when you are right.  A CPL makes everything easier. 

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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2016, 09:35:54 PM »
Yup just easier to pay the tax and submit to criminal-like treatment from the government before you exercise your right.

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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2016, 10:21:29 PM »
Concealed  Pistol License (CPL) allows you to carry a loaded pistol concealed under clothing or in a purse. Pretty sure it allows a loaded pistol in your vehicle. No seven day waiting period when purchasing a pistol.
Without a CPL you can open carry, pistol in your vehicle if unloaded and heading to the "outdoors".
I have a CPL but still don't carry just to make things easier, don't even carry loaded pistol in the truck. Just takes the gray area out of the equation if I do get stopped and my pistol is in the truck. Also got it because I get a few jobs in some shady parts of town and was reading about a lot of shootings, still think about it now and then.
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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2016, 10:35:11 PM »
I highly recomend this pamphlet however im not sure where you can purchase a current one.
http://www.amazon.com/Washington-State-Gun-Rights-Responsibilities/dp/0967231329/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461735139&sr=1-3&keywords=washington+rights+Dave
I have a copy floating around some where and its great on ALL use of force in this state.
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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2016, 10:57:20 PM »
The cost of the permit comes out to $11 a year, cheap to avoid any problems down the road, plus you get to take your handgun home with you right after you get a "PROCEED"on the back ground check.

After you get your Washington State concealed pistol permit, get a non-resident Utah pistol permit. I covers you to carry in about 26 different states if you travel.
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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2016, 06:05:20 AM »


Concealed  Pistol License (CPL) allows you to carry a loaded pistol concealed under clothing or in a purse. Pretty sure it allows a loaded pistol in your vehicle. No seven day waiting period when purchasing a pistol.
Without a CPL you can open carry, pistol in your vehicle if unloaded and heading to the "outdoors".
I have a CPL but still don't carry just to make things easier, don't even carry loaded pistol in the truck. Just takes the gray area out of the equation if I do get stopped and my pistol is in the truck. Also got it because I get a few jobs in some shady parts of town and was reading about a lot of shootings, still think about it now and then.

Without a cpl, you can legally conceal carry while loaded in your vehicle while heading to the outdoors (because of the exception in the RCW ).
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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2016, 06:33:21 AM »
Get the permit and sign up for some tactical training with your wife, she will enjoy the time with you and everyone (myself included) could use more training.

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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2016, 08:57:16 AM »
sign up for some tactical training with your wife

 :yeah: Proper training IS as important as legally carrying  :twocents:
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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2016, 12:24:05 PM »
sign up for some tactical training with your wife

 :yeah: Proper training IS as important as legally carrying  :twocents:

Training and regular practice is the most important thing.  Too many people have way too much confidence in their ability to safely use a firearm.  IMO, you have no business carrying if you haven't taken a basic firearms class and practice regularly with the weapon you are carrying.

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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2016, 02:17:06 PM »


Concealed  Pistol License (CPL) allows you to carry a loaded pistol concealed under clothing or in a purse. Pretty sure it allows a loaded pistol in your vehicle. No seven day waiting period when purchasing a pistol.
Without a CPL you can open carry, pistol in your vehicle if unloaded and heading to the "outdoors".
I have a CPL but still don't carry just to make things easier, don't even carry loaded pistol in the truck. Just takes the gray area out of the equation if I do get stopped and my pistol is in the truck. Also got it because I get a few jobs in some shady parts of town and was reading about a lot of shootings, still think about it now and then.

Without a cpl, you can legally conceal carry while loaded in your vehicle while heading to the outdoors (because of the exception in the RCW ).

"( 8 ) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;"

The "considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license"  makes it read as though it's not black and white. Does the wife have a hunting or fishing license? Does she want to risk arguing with a cop her intent while driving on whether or not she's going to a lawful outdoor recreational activity? Jogging and going to the park aren't listed. I wouldn't risk that when it comes to a loaded firearm in my possession and dealing with law enforcement.

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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2016, 02:31:12 PM »
I also think the definition is vauge and is asking to go to the court house to explainyourself to try and get your pistol back.
I think partly the way its worded is for some kind of circumstantial evidence. You have the proper gear and attire for hiking or mushrooming.  Where you say your coming from/going to is associated with the outdoor activity your explanation gives.

If you know your laws you wont have trouble in most places e wa. You would likely have a tougher time in snoho king pierce counties. 2c
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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2016, 03:10:15 PM »
Well, it definitely could be left up to an officer's discretion especially in determining if the person is traveling to an outdoor activity, and like pointed out before most officers probably don't know about the exception so you could set yourself up for scrutiny. 

But I still think I know what it means how it's written and I do carry concealed while traveling to or from outdoor activities (scouting, hunting, fishing, and hiking). 
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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2016, 08:12:38 PM »
The law clearly states..."not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license".
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Re: Concealed permit questions
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2016, 08:27:49 PM »
The law clearly states..."not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license".
:chuckle: selective quoting?

 


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