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Quote from: huntnphool on May 20, 2016, 11:20:37 PMQuote from: kiticaashunter on May 20, 2016, 11:17:12 PM He is one of the most generous good people alive. And has done more for the elk than 95% of the hunters in this state combined. What more has he done than the bidder $1000 behind his bid wouldn't have done?While I appreciate the contributions this guy has made to conservation, One can certainly also argue that by being involved in two high-profile cases in which wildlife rules were violated, (either knowingly or unknowingly, it really doesn't matter the damage is the same) he has probably done more damage to the hunting community than 95% of the people on here. It only takes one "Cecil the lion" to do a lot of damage. Unfortunately, trophy hunting already carries a negative stigma with most of the non-hunting population so when a trophy hunter violates rules in an effort to take the biggest baddest animal around it provides them more ammunition to push for changes and regulations that cripple the tradition and means of subsidence that many of us cherish. I am quite certain based upon Mr. Reichert available resources , that he has lawyers on retainer and advisors that could know the game pamphlet backwards and forwards and advise him if he wanted that. I personally hunt three states. I make an effort each year to read the pamphlet for each state so I am aware of the rules and regulations I will be expected to follow. The bottom line is That with some hunters, the end justifies the means. If they have a certain animal targeted, they will do what it takes to get it. There is no doubt in my mind Mr. Reichert could have chose 100 quality bulls to shoot legally with that tag But choose to push the limits on one that involved some gray area. People on here can claim all they want that he did not know that he was in a unit not open to branch antler Bulls. That is your right to claim that and probably smart from a legal standpoint but recognize that the vast, vast majority of people who hear about this case will not believe you. In the end, your "ignorance and permission granted" argument may suffice to stave of prosecution but the damage is already done. The outcome of Mr Reicherts legal proceedings will do little to stem the black eye the hunting community has suffered as a result of this debacle.
Quote from: kiticaashunter on May 20, 2016, 11:17:12 PM He is one of the most generous good people alive. And has done more for the elk than 95% of the hunters in this state combined. What more has he done than the bidder $1000 behind his bid wouldn't have done?
He is one of the most generous good people alive. And has done more for the elk than 95% of the hunters in this state combined.
Quote from: huntnphool on May 21, 2016, 12:04:03 AMQuote from: kiticaashunter on May 21, 2016, 12:00:13 AMQuote from: huntnphool on May 20, 2016, 11:20:37 PMQuote from: kiticaashunter on May 20, 2016, 11:17:12 PM He is one of the most generous good people alive. And has done more for the elk than 95% of the hunters in this state combined. What more has he done than the bidder $1000 behind his bid wouldn't have done?Well if you paid any attention, I believe it was last year he bid up his own bI'd by another 5k when it was clear there was not another bid coming in. Wow, I stand corrected, his $5k is indeed more for elk than 95% of the rest of the hunters in this state have done combined. Guess the moron sign was pointed to me. That's fine All I was trying to do here is tell the honest side of the story of a good man that has put hundreds of thousands of dollars into it in the last few years.The situation last season was unfortunate. The honest truth is nobody involved in the situation tried to get around anything or cheat any rules. They checked, and Grant double checked to make sure it was all on the up and up.
Quote from: kiticaashunter on May 21, 2016, 12:00:13 AMQuote from: huntnphool on May 20, 2016, 11:20:37 PMQuote from: kiticaashunter on May 20, 2016, 11:17:12 PM He is one of the most generous good people alive. And has done more for the elk than 95% of the hunters in this state combined. What more has he done than the bidder $1000 behind his bid wouldn't have done?Well if you paid any attention, I believe it was last year he bid up his own bI'd by another 5k when it was clear there was not another bid coming in. Wow, I stand corrected, his $5k is indeed more for elk than 95% of the rest of the hunters in this state have done combined.
Quote from: huntnphool on May 20, 2016, 11:20:37 PMQuote from: kiticaashunter on May 20, 2016, 11:17:12 PM He is one of the most generous good people alive. And has done more for the elk than 95% of the hunters in this state combined. What more has he done than the bidder $1000 behind his bid wouldn't have done?Well if you paid any attention, I believe it was last year he bid up his own bI'd by another 5k when it was clear there was not another bid coming in.
M-Ray your such a little gossip queen please tell me who told me to stop f-ing with that bull As I have said earlier I had no part in guiding TR on that hunt since I had been archery hunting the two weeks prior in the Okanogan. I was ask if I would help gut and cape the bull for TR. So yes I'm guilty for helping a friend. So Let the court figure this out mess out. Peace out till it goes to court. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: time2hunt on May 21, 2016, 02:14:27 PMM-Ray your such a little gossip queen please tell me who told me to stop f-ing with that bull As I have said earlier I had no part in guiding TR on that hunt since I had been archery hunting the two weeks prior in the Okanogan. I was ask if I would help gut and cape the bull for TR. So yes I'm guilty for helping a friend. So Let the court figure this out mess out. Peace out till it goes to court. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkExactly. He will not tell you who said that because nobody did. This would not even be a story without a few seattle and tacoma guys fabricating the truth. Page after page they say things like this. But will not back it up with with names.
Please don't associate me with kitcaashunt I have no clue who this person is. The lawsuit was made by a separate party. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: JDHasty on May 21, 2016, 09:58:45 AMQuote from: JLS on May 21, 2016, 09:36:14 AMQuote from: JDHasty on May 21, 2016, 07:00:16 AMFrom the very beginning this was never going to end well. Stevie Wonder could see that. Probably the most concise assessment of this entire mess, right there. The fact that he would WANT to kill this bull makes me question everything about his conservation ethic.Regardless of what Mr. Reichert spends annually on rich man/auction tags, he has cost us all with this episode. Yes he has, and more than anything I resent the stigma he has cast over the hunting community with this reckless and irresponsible act. We as hunters have not done a thing to bring this mess on, but those who oppose hunting will attempt to use this incident as a broad brush to tar us with. But for Mr Reichert et all's actions there would be no controversy. And just to clear something up, I sent an email, made one phone call and paid one visit to the Prosecutor's Office. The call and visit were to ask a question or two and the email was to encourage prosecution if that is where the evidence leads. And that is a stone cold natural fact. That stigma was very well promoted by you trying to further your which hunt on forums all the way to the east coast.
Quote from: JLS on May 21, 2016, 09:36:14 AMQuote from: JDHasty on May 21, 2016, 07:00:16 AMFrom the very beginning this was never going to end well. Stevie Wonder could see that. Probably the most concise assessment of this entire mess, right there. The fact that he would WANT to kill this bull makes me question everything about his conservation ethic.Regardless of what Mr. Reichert spends annually on rich man/auction tags, he has cost us all with this episode. Yes he has, and more than anything I resent the stigma he has cast over the hunting community with this reckless and irresponsible act. We as hunters have not done a thing to bring this mess on, but those who oppose hunting will attempt to use this incident as a broad brush to tar us with. But for Mr Reichert et all's actions there would be no controversy. And just to clear something up, I sent an email, made one phone call and paid one visit to the Prosecutor's Office. The call and visit were to ask a question or two and the email was to encourage prosecution if that is where the evidence leads. And that is a stone cold natural fact.
Quote from: JDHasty on May 21, 2016, 07:00:16 AMFrom the very beginning this was never going to end well. Stevie Wonder could see that. Probably the most concise assessment of this entire mess, right there. The fact that he would WANT to kill this bull makes me question everything about his conservation ethic.
From the very beginning this was never going to end well. Stevie Wonder could see that.
Quote from: kiticaashunter on May 21, 2016, 01:24:37 PMQuote from: JDHasty on May 21, 2016, 09:58:45 AMQuote from: JLS on May 21, 2016, 09:36:14 AMQuote from: JDHasty on May 21, 2016, 07:00:16 AMFrom the very beginning this was never going to end well. Stevie Wonder could see that. Probably the most concise assessment of this entire mess, right there. The fact that he would WANT to kill this bull makes me question everything about his conservation ethic.Regardless of what Mr. Reichert spends annually on rich man/auction tags, he has cost us all with this episode. Yes he has, and more than anything I resent the stigma he has cast over the hunting community with this reckless and irresponsible act. We as hunters have not done a thing to bring this mess on, but those who oppose hunting will attempt to use this incident as a broad brush to tar us with. But for Mr Reichert et all's actions there would be no controversy. And just to clear something up, I sent an email, made one phone call and paid one visit to the Prosecutor's Office. The call and visit were to ask a question or two and the email was to encourage prosecution if that is where the evidence leads. And that is a stone cold natural fact. That stigma was very well promoted by you trying to further your which hunt on forums all the way to the east coast.You referring to this thread that was 41 pages before I joined it? 3125263 - Mon Sep 23 2013 05:52 PM Re: elk gov tag [Re: jakesroost] you are correct that Tod has had past problems/issues. What I can assuredly tell you 100% is that while tod was with ECO he was a fine upstanding man and we didn't need dig up his or anyone else's "skeletons." He explained to Jack early on during their phone conversations the incident you are referring to. Jack was confident that Tod had seen the error of his ways and paid his "debt to society" so to speak and he started on a clean slate when he came to ECO.The bull was killed on State forest land not national forest land so there is no concern in that aspect. ECO runs a tight ship and there is no room for rule breakers or rule stretchers among our ranks! THAT IS 100% TRUTH
Quote from: JDHasty on May 21, 2016, 03:03:03 PMQuote from: kiticaashunter on May 21, 2016, 01:24:37 PMQuote from: JDHasty on May 21, 2016, 09:58:45 AMQuote from: JLS on May 21, 2016, 09:36:14 AMQuote from: JDHasty on May 21, 2016, 07:00:16 AMFrom the very beginning this was never going to end well. Stevie Wonder could see that. Probably the most concise assessment of this entire mess, right there. The fact that he would WANT to kill this bull makes me question everything about his conservation ethic.Regardless of what Mr. Reichert spends annually on rich man/auction tags, he has cost us all with this episode. Yes he has, and more than anything I resent the stigma he has cast over the hunting community with this reckless and irresponsible act. We as hunters have not done a thing to bring this mess on, but those who oppose hunting will attempt to use this incident as a broad brush to tar us with. But for Mr Reichert et all's actions there would be no controversy. And just to clear something up, I sent an email, made one phone call and paid one visit to the Prosecutor's Office. The call and visit were to ask a question or two and the email was to encourage prosecution if that is where the evidence leads. And that is a stone cold natural fact. That stigma was very well promoted by you trying to further your which hunt on forums all the way to the east coast.You referring to this thread that was 41 pages before I joined it? 3125263 - Mon Sep 23 2013 05:52 PM Re: elk gov tag [Re: jakesroost] you are correct that Tod has had past problems/issues. What I can assuredly tell you 100% is that while tod was with ECO he was a fine upstanding man and we didn't need dig up his or anyone else's "skeletons." He explained to Jack early on during their phone conversations the incident you are referring to. Jack was confident that Tod had seen the error of his ways and paid his "debt to society" so to speak and he started on a clean slate when he came to ECO.The bull was killed on State forest land not national forest land so there is no concern in that aspect. ECO runs a tight ship and there is no room for rule breakers or rule stretchers among our ranks! THAT IS 100% TRUTHWhat the heck... What does a thread comment from 3 years ago have anything to do with anything?
