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I'm not talking about barrels in the backyard or launchers... but that stuff is where it starts... The rest is applying it on wild birds which is where hunting comes in... But yes I do see the point of the time commitment it takes to jump through all the trial hoops. Which by no means field trial dogs are the better hunters it's just a different dog game people like to play... At the end of the day we have these dogs for one reason and that's to hunt and have a best friend around the house... Which sounds to me like you don't get to spend much time with your best friend?
You don't get responses to your posts because you present yourself as a butt hole. Nearly all of your posts are either you gloating of what your pro trainer has done with your dog, or you finding some nit to pick or hair to split, with someone and you end with calling them names.boot hunter= regular joe with a self trained dogReply if you want, but I've said my piece and I'm done. After reading your mental masturbation for a long time I just wanted to point out to you that it's you that looks 'stupid' as you like to say, and that you're irrelevant on this forum.
Quote from: addicted2hunting on June 11, 2016, 11:28:59 AMI'm not talking about barrels in the backyard or launchers... but that stuff is where it starts... The rest is applying it on wild birds which is where hunting comes in... But yes I do see the point of the time commitment it takes to jump through all the trial hoops. Which by no means field trial dogs are the better hunters it's just a different dog game people like to play... At the end of the day we have these dogs for one reason and that's to hunt and have a best friend around the house... Which sounds to me like you don't get to spend much time with your best friend?That's the great thing about trials, hunting, and sending a dog to camp. You get to spend 8 months of the year playing dog games. You don't get to do that if you just hunt them.
That's the difference between trials and tests. In trials, you don't get points, you either beat the best dogs or you don't. AKC places 4 dogs, AF places a Champion and RU champion, and at the AF Nationals, you win or go home, there is no second place. If a Pro shows up with his string, your going to waste an entry fee because unless your a really, really good amateur, your not going to be able to compete. That's one reason they have amateur stakes. Pros go through tons of dogs finding that needle in the haystack dog capable of competing at the highest level. Most Amateurs don't have that ability. Even if you beat the Pro in your brace, he's just going to go back in the trailer and get another dog just as good if not better than the one you beat. In Hunt tests, you compete against a standard. You can finish a dog even if it's the worst dog at the Hunt tests, provided it meets the standard. It doesn't work that way in trials.
I'm not talking about barrels in the backyard or launchers... but that stuff is where it starts... The rest is applying it on wild birds which is where hunting comes in... But yes I do see the point of the time commitment it takes to jump through all the trial hoops. Which by no means field trial dogs are the better hunters it's just a different dog game people like to play...
Quote from: jetjockey on June 11, 2016, 12:25:07 PMThat's the difference between trials and tests. In trials, you don't get points, you either beat the best dogs or you don't. AKC places 4 dogs, AF places a Champion and RU champion, and at the AF Nationals, you win or go home, there is no second place. If a Pro shows up with his string, your going to waste an entry fee because unless your a really, really good amateur, your not going to be able to compete. That's one reason they have amateur stakes. Pros go through tons of dogs finding that needle in the haystack dog capable of competing at the highest level. Most Amateurs don't have that ability. Even if you beat the Pro in your brace, he's just going to go back in the trailer and get another dog just as good if not better than the one you beat. In Hunt tests, you compete against a standard. You can finish a dog even if it's the worst dog at the Hunt tests, provided it meets the standard. It doesn't work that way in trials.Yeah and that's totally fine, I'll never probably play field trials except nstra stuff. But in Washington like I stated above, it's far outweighed by the retriever world. In the Midwest it's the other way around so that's why it's such a huge deal there. But you won't find much in terms of support here talking about your britts being pro trained and ran in these big trials... Or in your big time field trial ventures... Cause us in Washington aren't interested in what goes on in Georgia ETC.... There are plenty field trials in Washington but it doesn't get the big exposure because we live in a liberal state...
Trials are used as a way to prove dogs and to select the best candidates for breeding. Much the same as hunt tests. If a dog can handle the extremes demanded in field trialing, from training to performance, it's offspring will likely be able to handle anything a hunter throws at it.Case in point, Mile Post 9, if generations of dogs from a line have proven themselves there and you are a regular chukar hunter, those dogs would be worth checking out.Don't get me wrong, there is a fun component to trialing too, but there is a practical side to it from a breeding perspective and if you are looking for a pup.