Peep sights on muzzleloader

[trophyhunt]

I put a Williams peep on mine, really like it. The front sight is the original fiber sight on my t/c, I like what Jackelope did, a smaller sight with the ring around it.

Did you have to adjust the original front fiber optic sight at all after putting on the Thompson peep.

Yes, that reminds me, I had to order a taller front sight because the peep was taller than the original front sight.  Sorry, forgot till you asked.

[Sabotloader]

I can understand that some might have a problem with a peep, but in my case the peep is a an extremely great addition.  I guess I have shot them enough that I really do not have a problem seeing and shooting with them.  I hope all understand there are several different sizes of apertures that are available.  I use a .091 for hunting and in low light I remove the apt and use the larger diameter of the aperture insert.  As long as there is enough light to light the front fiber optic I am really good.

 

[Jonathan_S]

Took this picture the other day and it fits the topic. Williams peep. Not sure how in the heck this thing could block much of a dik dik, let alone an elk

[lokidog]

Peep sight all of the way!  The human eye has an uncanny ability to center things in a circle much more easily than in a 'V' or 'U'.  I have also read that it will help those of us with older eyes focus on the front sight/target. There is a reason that competition small bore guns use peep sights instead of buckhorn type sights.

When hunting early morning or late evening, I will remove the small aperture bell from my rear sight and use it like a ghost ring.  The decrease in accuracy is made up for the fact that my shooting distance will be reduced in the low light conditions. When I am target shooting, I will use the smallest aperture that I have for increased accuracy.

[trophyhunt]

Took this picture the other day and it fits the topic. Williams peep. Not sure how in the heck this thing could block much of a dik dik, let alone an elk

looks just like mine

[HntnFsh]

Took this picture the other day and it fits the topic. Williams peep. Not sure how in the heck this thing could block much of a dik dik, let alone an elk

How much eye relief you allowing for with that pic? Doesn't look like much. See that big thick ring that makes a peep. That's what blocks things out!

[Jonathan_S]

Took this picture the other day and it fits the topic. Williams peep. Not sure how in the heck this thing could block much of a dik dik, let alone an elk

How much eye relief you allowing for with that pic? Doesn't look like much. See that big thick ring that makes a peep. That's what blocks things out!

You must sit back pretty far from it then because my FOV is substantial

[Jonathan_S]

And yeah it blocks a lot but why would you have to see the whole herd of elk when aiming? 

[180-GRAIN]

I currently shoot open stock sights with my knight bighorn. I get about a 6 inch group at 100 yards (That's in a lead sled) I'm not happy with that so I bought a Williams peep to try. Got it in the mail last night I am putting it on tonight to try and see if it improves my accuracy.

[MountainWalk]

This just makes me laugh. People talking about what other people should see etc.
 As I mentioned,  I shoot an aperture sight EVERY day. 1-10 shots a day. All with an aperture.  So I know a little bit about what I'm talking about.

 There's no doubt about the accuracy of a good aperture.  They are that.  Seems like people are missing some points though. 
When I got my 35 with the Redfield peep, I was Gung ho about it being my brush rifle, and my featherweight '06 with a Luepy fixed 4 for more open country use.

Well,  got it backwards. The scope beats the peep, and the standard open sights beat the peep. So now my 35 with peep has swapped jobs with the scoped rifle.

Peeps just plain suck in low light. First light or dusk in the doghair with a peep? Forget it.
 And all this biz about shooting groups with a muzzleloader is just laughable to me. When I shoot a muzzleloader,  it's one shot per target. It's the only thing that matters.i don't care if I can make 3-5 muzzleloader shots real close together because it just doesn't apply in real life.  So to me putting a peep sight on a single shot weapon for smaller groups is pretty silly. How many shots do you normally need anyways?

[180-GRAIN]

This just makes me laugh. People talking about what other people should see etc.
 As I mentioned,  I shoot an aperture sight EVERY day. 1-10 shots a day. All with an aperture.  So I know a little bit about what I'm talking about.

 There's no doubt about the accuracy of a good aperture.  They are that.  Seems like people are missing some points though. 
When I got my 35 with the Redfield peep, I was Gung ho about it being my brush rifle, and my featherweight '06 with a Luepy fixed 4 for more open country use.

Well,  got it backwards. The scope beats the peep, and the standard open sights beat the peep. So now my 35 with peep has swapped jobs with the scoped rifle.

Peeps just plain suck in low light. First light or dusk in the doghair with a peep? Forget it.
 And all this biz about shooting groups with a muzzleloader is just laughable to me. When I shoot a muzzleloader,  it's one shot per target. It's the only thing that matters.i don't care if I can make 3-5 muzzleloader shots real close together because it just doesn't apply in real life.  So to me putting a peep sight on a single shot weapon for smaller groups is pretty silly. How many shots do you normally need anyways?

As many shots as it takes  . Obviously you always try to make your first shot count but in real life that's not always going to be the case so sometimes you need a follow up. Maybe a group doesn't matter With a muzzy but it sure helps my confidence shooting if I'm putting bullets in a good place consistently.

[JDHasty]

You could bring along a troop of gun bearers and a battery consisting of of a half-dozen muzzle loaders, each one loaded and capped.  That is how trophy bulls are pursued in GMU 334.  That way you could have the optimum sighting arrangement for any situation ready to go.

Might want to keep your pettifogger on retainer and have his number in speed dial though. 

[MountainWalk]

 

[lokidog]

This just makes me laugh. People talking about what other people should see etc.
 As I mentioned,  I shoot an aperture sight EVERY day. 1-10 shots a day. All with an aperture.  So I know a little bit about what I'm talking about.

 There's no doubt about the accuracy of a good aperture.  They are that.  Seems like people are missing some points though. 
When I got my 35 with the Redfield peep, I was Gung ho about it being my brush rifle, and my featherweight '06 with a Luepy fixed 4 for more open country use.

Well,  got it backwards. The scope beats the peep, and the standard open sights beat the peep. So now my 35 with peep has swapped jobs with the scoped rifle.

Peeps just plain suck in low light. First light or dusk in the doghair with a peep? Forget it.
 And all this biz about shooting groups with a muzzleloader is just laughable to me. When I shoot a muzzleloader,  it's one shot per target. It's the only thing that matters.i don't care if I can make 3-5 muzzleloader shots real close together because it just doesn't apply in real life.  So to me putting a peep sight on a single shot weapon for smaller groups is pretty silly. How many shots do you normally need anyways?

Why would you not want the most accurate sighting system possible, even on a single shot firearm? Just because your original thoughts on how your sighting systems would work were inaccurate, doesn't mean you know best for everyone else.     I am happy with the confidence I have in my gun putting the bullet where the sight is if I do my part. 

Sure, a peep sucks up more light in low light conditions, if you feel you need to shoot in the first or last seconds of legal light or in the dark depths of the woods, there is a way to make the peep allow more light in, you just remove the bell and use the threaded ring as your rear sight. I've found I am almost as accurate at closer distances as with the bell and smaller aperture.

[MountainWalk]

  Why wouldn't I want the most accurate sight possible?"

Well,  an elk at 50 yards really isn't all that hard to hit. My groups are nearly always one shot.  And it always equals dead animals. Lungs are a pretty big target.

  Yeah, I could remove the aperture,  then screw it back on later. But I don't screw around with my guns and lose "stuff" out in the woods. K.I.S.S.  I like my gear set it and forget it.

So, my brush rifle wears a scope. And my muzzleloader uses very low express style sights.   Even my wife is able to hit targets the size of coffee cans out to 80 yes or so.