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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2016, 05:14:51 PM »
yeah I'd go back you've already seen one or two shooters so.... I feel ya when out like that miserable and exhausted, all you're thinking at that moment is getting back to rest. So from me I understand that, no qualms from me. But yeah I'd go back you know they're there so that's half the battle.
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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2016, 09:55:58 PM »
A couple of things.

First, there isn't anytime left this season for new scouting.  Go with what you know.  Next time you might see two, twenty or zero bucks.  It is hard to know, but at least you know this area.

Second, you had a full pack for a single night stay?  Hmmm.  I am willing to guess you could lose quite a bit of that, and still be able to spend the week in the woods.  During the winter do your research on backcountry hunting.  Next year you will be a much more mobile hunter.

It sounds to me like your clothing system and camp/pack need some serious attention.  Nobody can Monday a.m. quarterback this for you.  Best of luck---you are on the right track.
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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2016, 06:19:57 AM »
I think it really comes down to how bad you want it.  This is the point where some just don't want it that bad and do something else and where some dig deep and get it done.  Both options are fine!  I've been in spots where on the way out I was very glad I didn't kill something. 

Priorities change over the years and sometimes from year to year.  BUT!  It seems you might be a little too focused on the harvest vs the hunt.....  :twocents:  :tup:
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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2016, 09:05:09 AM »
Thanks for the motivation and confidence booster guys! Here's the real story of what happened. I convinced my wife to go with me and since she's a normal civilian female (not used to carrying packs on her back) I carried most of the weight. We planned on 3 days so we had a lot of gear, and half of my gear is heavy army crap since I've already spent a crazy amount of money on goods for western type hunting (binos, tripod, more guns that I couldn't resist, etc). Plus half of it was the wrong gear since we really didn't know what to expect.  When I go back I think I can make the pack a reasonable weight, provided some September rains refresh the dried out creeks so I can pump water. Also have been thinking through the 2 day hike out scenario, and it makes it feel manageable. Hike out deer on first day, sleep in tent at truck, then hike out camp the next.

I think I'll sack up this year and give it a real shot. Hell, I ain't getting any younger so I might as well do it while I can.
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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2016, 09:22:46 AM »
Thanks for the motivation and confidence booster guys! Here's the real story of what happened. I convinced my wife to go with me and since she's a normal civilian female (not used to carrying packs on her back) I carried most of the weight. We planned on 3 days so we had a lot of gear, and half of my gear is heavy army crap since I've already spent a crazy amount of money on goods for western type hunting (binos, tripod, more guns that I couldn't resist, etc). Plus half of it was the wrong gear since we really didn't know what to expect.  When I go back I think I can make the pack a reasonable weight, provided some September rains refresh the dried out creeks so I can pump water. Also have been thinking through the 2 day hike out scenario, and it makes it feel manageable. Hike out deer on first day, sleep in tent at truck, then hike out camp the next.

I think I'll sack up this year and give it a real shot. Hell, I ain't getting any younger so I might as well do it while I can.
I can't add much for this season, I think you have the right plan.  I strongly recommend David Long's blog posts http://www.altitudeoutdoors.com/author/david-long/ and his book Public Land Muleys:The Bottom line for offseason reading.
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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2016, 12:37:44 PM »
Heres my  :twocents: and that is about all its worth. Keep in mind all of our goals ultimately are to harvest the animal we hunt. That being said I have found in my experience that I began to enjoy the hunt above all, even when I did not harvest. It took me quite a few years of similar disheartening seasons like yours to enter into this mentality and I am surely not done growing in that aspect. I would be lying to say I come home empty handed not feeling a bit disheartened, it will always be there in those tough seasons. But what better opportunity than in that moment to dig down deep within yourself and grow as a hunter. Those moments of "failure" have proved over and over again to be my greatest times of growth in this lifestyle.

So in that sense it excites me to know you have experienced something that has potential to really change things in a BIG way like it did with me and make you a greater hunter. Stay after those two, maybe change up your preperation in gear, learn what the deer do in that area, work hard and embrace the challenge, and each time out of the woods take something away from the hunt and not just the harvest. Sooner or later the preparation will meet another opportunity! Congrats on the find! keep it up

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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2016, 12:44:38 PM »
I will say this, never leave deer, elk or fish to go find them somewhere else.  You know where legal deer are that is half the battle.  Make a plan and go get one of them.  If you need more motivation read my signature block.  Both statements apply here.
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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2016, 12:59:45 PM »
I'm happy you saw deer.  They are very thin this year.  It's a tough haul.  Sometimes it's worth it.  Other times it might come to mind, what in the hell was I thinking.   Then you get back to town and there is a buck standing in the field. Lol. 

My father used to describe some of my best hunting spots as...."better take a salt and pepper shaker with you".  Because you are going to have to eat them right there.
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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2016, 01:06:25 PM »
Stick with it! It's not easy - it's mule deer! You saw deer - that's more than slot of people can say at that elevation this time of year. They will start showing up more and more. I spent that last 4 days up in that area in the 6000'-7300' range- they are still pretty sparse , but they'll show. Weather was nasty - thunder,lightning and tons of hail one day- just gotta prepare for it.

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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2016, 01:06:48 PM »
PM sent think my buddy ran into in one of our hunting spots this weekend while up bear hunting, you where in a good area...
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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2016, 02:14:45 PM »
This just makes me excited to hunt mule deer! Gotta love the challenge

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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2016, 02:25:04 PM »
I think I'll sack up this year and give it a real shot. Hell, I ain't getting any younger so I might as well do it while I can.

Gotta love this attitude!  Good luck.
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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2016, 04:04:23 PM »
Keep at it in the backcountry, and NEVER share details or locations once you find a good spot.  You'll do alright.

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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2016, 04:50:57 PM »
Keep at it in the backcountry, and NEVER share details or locations once you find a good spot.  You'll do alright.

Hahaha that was only because I was convinced I wasn't going back!! Chalk it up to lessons learned.

Its a few weeks away but I'll make sure to keep everyone posted on my experience. Good luck everyone!
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Re: Disheartening first Muley trip...
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2016, 06:08:29 PM »
Like has already been said you are in some of the best muley country in the state, it wont be easy but if you stick with it you will have success. My family owns a few cabins on the river directly across from Thompson Ridge and we went 3 for 4 this weekend, nothing worth bragging about but meat in the freezer nonetheless. good luck!

 


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